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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 18:05:48 EST
From: Dgasque@aol.com
Subject: Re: breaking the silence.
In a message dated Mon, 28 Jan 2002 3:03:32 PM Eastern Standard Time, Skip Heller <velaires@earthlink.net> writes:
>
>
> > From: UFOrbK8@aol.com
>
> >i think that free jazz is a crappy name for stuff
>
> I always thought so too. "Free jazz" has as many behavioral norms built
> into its standards and practices as be-bop. And you'll reflect that, at its
> outset, be-bop was the music of liberation. I prefer the term Joey Baron
> uses -- "non-symmetrical music".
I've always preferred "creative improvisational music", a term I first saw in Cadence, and coined by someone to which I can't directly point fingers at.
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np: Chicago Underground Quartet- live from some club in Chicago...can't remember where...
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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 18:27:25 -0500
From: "Brian Olewnick" <olewnick@gis.net>
Subject: Re: Canavarro + Drumm/Wehowsky (Was: lots of questions.)
> Also: Does anyone want to discuss the recent Wehowsky/Drumm disc
Just picked this up a couple of weeks ago and like it a lot. I was
previously (and inexcusably) unfamiliar with Wehowsky (I understand that
'Tulpas' _must_ be heard) and I came in with expectations only on the Drumm
side of things. So I'm not sure how representative or not it is of his work,
but I liked the spareness very much, the way they both keep things on a
"thin", linear kind of keel and wring some fascinating stuff out of it. His
manipulations of sine tones and (I believe) controlled feedback almost
always felt "right". Drumm's scrabblings were a very fitting foil and his
introduction of some bluesy figures in the second piece was a pleasant and
welcome surprise. Fine disc, I thought.
Brian Olewnick
NP: Roscoe Mitchell - Old/Quartet
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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 15:54:55 -0800 (PST)
From: "M.B." <hirakemike@yahoo.com>
Subject: Maya Deren
Hello,
Is anyone here familiar with the field recordings of
Maya Deren, and are they at all obtainable? Zorn
mentions these recordings slightly in the liner notes
to Filmworks X.
Thanks,
Mike
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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 19:19:48 EST
From: UFOrbK8@aol.com
Subject: damned if i do...
This list is really going down... Now I understand why Godel would be sorry.
Patrice.
..damned if i don't. shot down for non-intellectual content, shot down for hyper-intellectual content. how, in my late-capitalist postmodernist avant-gardist little world can i ever strike a balance?! <insert method acting pose here, with german expressionist background and perhaps a top 40 song playing in the background>
[this post to me feels like a roy lichtenstein painting - one in the "OH, BRAD!" series.]
k8.
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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 19:22:20 EST
From: UFOrbK8@aol.com
Subject: Re: John Luther Adams query
i studied with JLA at oberlin for quite some time... i can pretty much tell you everything you want to know about him and his music... except specific instrumentations. i was involved with technical aspects of strange and sacred noise and in the white silence both, and i can tell you that strange and sacred noise is a pain in the ass to set up and deal with spatially. email me off list for more details...
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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 19:30:15 EST
From: UFOrbK8@aol.com
Subject: JLA recording from PGCincinnati
John Luther Adams has a well-designed and informative website at
www.johnlutheradams.com, which seems to have details about most of his
works. Strange and Sacred Noise is scored for a percussion quartet, though
the exact disposition of the instruments is not detailed. It is due to be
released on Mode in fall, performed by Percussion Group Cincinnati
i was at the precursors to this recording. you can contact alan otte at Cincinnati Conservatory of Music for information about it - i think he's the head of the perc. dept. down there, and he's the lead player on this recording. he's an asshole, but he might be helpful.
love,
k8.
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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 16:45:32 -0800
From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <proussel@ichips.intel.com>
Subject: Re: damned if i do...
On Mon, 28 Jan 2002 19:19:48 EST UFOrbK8@aol.com wrote:
>
> This list is really going down... Now I understand why Godel would be sorry.
> Patrice.
>
> ..damned if i don't. shot down for non-intellectual content, shot down for
> hyper-intellectual content. how, in my late-capitalist postmodernist avant-
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
If sprinkling out of context big names is what you consider "hyper-intellectual
content", why not after all. Everybody is entitled to the fun they can muster,
I guess. That might even make a strong impression at tea party.
Patrice.
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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 20:22:55 EST
From: UFOrbK8@aol.com
Subject: Re: damned if i do...
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In a message dated 1/28/02 6:46:42 PM Central Standard Time,
proussel@ichips.intel.com writes:
> > This list is really going down... Now I understand why Godel would be
> sorry.
> > Patrice.
> >
> > ..damned if i don't. shot down for non-intellectual content, shot down
> for
> > hyper-intellectual content. how, in my late-capitalist postmodernist
> avant-
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> If sprinkling out of context big names is what you consider
> "hyper-intellectual
> content", why not after all. Everybody is entitled to the fun they can
> muster,
> I guess. That might even make a strong impression at tea party.
>
> Patrice.
if you were paying any attention at all, you would have noticed that *gasp*
there was content and context for my "sprinkling...big names". i was talking
about a piece i was working on. an avant-garde piece. an experimental
piece! oh see how we can bring the topic back around... children children,
gather round the circle, it seems like it is time for a round of kum-bay-a...
<whips out acoustic guitar> can i talk about folk music? and drop some
names everyone knows and probably everyone on this listserv detests? if so,
i propose that we talk about the influence of the song "this land is your
land" on the later music of one john zorn. anyone remember who john zorn is?
[peers out into 698 blank stares, since this list has been content free for
so many days now...]
:)
xo
love,
k8.
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> Patrice.<BR>
> <BR>
> ..damned if i don't. shot down for non-intellectual content, shot down for<BR>
> hyper-intellectual content. how, in my late-capitalist postmodernist avant-<BR>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<BR>
<BR>
If sprinkling out of context big names is what you consider "hyper-intellectual<BR>
content", why not after all. Everybody is entitled to the fun they can muster,<BR>
I guess. That might even make a strong impression at tea party.<BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">if you were paying any attention at all, you would have noticed that *gasp* there was content and context for my "sprinkling...big names". i was talking about a piece i was working on. an avant-garde piece. an experimental piece! oh see how we can bring the topic back around... children children, gather round the circle, it seems like it is time for a round of kum-bay-a... <whips out acoustic guitar> can i talk about folk music? and drop some names everyone knows and probably everyone on this listserv detests? if so, i propose that we talk about the influence of the song "this land is your land" on the later music of one john zorn. anyone remember who john zorn is? <BR>
<BR>
[peers out into 698 blank stares, since this list has been content free for so many days now...]<BR>
