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Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 12:40:22 +0100
From: "Remco Takken" <r.takken@planet.nl>
Subject: Re: why doesn't Tzadik hook up college/independent radio?
zorn's and the few listeners of good radio's loss.
mike
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Have DJ's and radio programmers serious problems with their legs? Can't they
WALK to a record store and buy the stuff they need to make their personality
shows even more personal, that is, by playing personal music???
If not, then the subject is clearly not important enough to play it on their
Radio Free America hobby.
Regards, Remco Takken
who buys his ass off, and sends a nice play-list-email to Tzadik and others,
every time a selfbought or promo release gets airplay in Holland.
ps: most of you guys who do send promos: I didn't even know you existed,
thank you for the good work out there. Like Mark Weber's great
jazzncountry'npoetry label XERX, from Albuzerxque fame.
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Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 12:53:00 +0100
From: "Remco Takken" <r.takken@planet.nl>
Subject: Children, please behave! Was: Re: Neu and personal affronts.
Order, in the classroom, children, please behave! Or should I start talking
extremely softly, in order for you people to listen for once?
Let's just get back to the great music information and discussions we all
love so much.
K8, you may e-mail me privately every day, providing me with your
associative thoughts: your Sesame Street Grover Washington remark made my
day last week, for instance.
But perhaps it gets a little overweight on the Zorn List (with its more than
30 postings a day), to go off-topic too far.
Regards, Remco Takken
np Baby Kain (former original Last Poet): Feel This
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Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 08:06:25 +0000
From: forsha41@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: The First Time
I guess this is more "How I got into Zorn".
Back in the mid 80's, I worked at a record store and we got a promo
sampler CD of Nonesuch artists. It had a piece from Mickey Spillane I
believe, so that was my first exposure to Zorn. It also had exerpts
from Varese's Ionization, Scott Johnson's John Somebody, and Hamiet
Bluiett's Hattie Wall, which were all pretty bizarre to my ears at the
time but very intriguing.
Not long after, we got the Naked City CD, and I remembered Zorn's name
from the sampler. I bought it and my life changed. I was a big metal
head in high school but had really gotten into jazz in the years after.
Naked City was like the perfect combination of both for me. I played
that CD for anyone who would listen, and frequently got reprimanded for
playing it way too loud in the store.
Later on, I got into Phish and MMW. Through MMW, I discovered the
wonderful "downtown" NYC music scene, and voila, Zorn was back in my
life. I got some live Bar Kokhba and Masada discs and now I'm hooked
all over again. I still feel like a total newbie when it comes to his
music, but I've been eager to check out some of his more "composed"
chamber-type stuff I've seen on Tzadik. Is there a good resource
somewhere for reviews or descriptions for each of his CDs?
BTW-As a newcomer to this list, I wanted to say I really enjoy the
discussion here and am looking forward to picking up on some new
non-Zorn music that's discussed.
peace,
Donald
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Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 08:05:32 -0800
From: "Benito Vergara" <bvergara@sfsu.edu>
Subject: RE: The First Time
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-zorn-list@lists.xmission.com
> [mailto:owner-zorn-list@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of
> forsha41@earthlink.net
> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 12:06 AM
> Back in the mid 80's, I worked at a record store and we got a promo
> sampler CD of Nonesuch artists. It had a piece from Mickey Spillane I
> believe, so that was my first exposure to Zorn. It also had exerpts
> from Varese's Ionization, Scott Johnson's John Somebody, and Hamiet
> Bluiett's Hattie Wall, which were all pretty bizarre to my ears at the
> time but very intriguing.
> Not long after, we got the Naked City CD, and I remembered Zorn's name
> from the sampler. I bought it and my life changed.
How funny. That was Nonesuch's "Late in the 20th Century" sampler, and I
discovered Zorn (and Kronos Quartet, and Reich, and Glass) through the exact
same CD. If there was ever one CD that opened my eyes (and ears) to entirely
new worlds of music, it was that one.
Later,
Ben
http://members.tripod.com/~tamad2/
ICQ/AIM: thewilyfilipino
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Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 15:54:06 -0500
From: <ssmith36@sprynet.com>
Subject: Re: why doesn't Tzadik hook up college/independent radio?
Tzadik may not be "hurting too bad" in the financial department, as you say - but then, you may not be aware that the label is a non-profit organization, and that all label profits after recouping are turned towards giving more artists a chance to have a record out. One disc selling in vast numbers, like Mike Patton, can fund a great many recording of Alvin Singleton or Jon.
That's the simple, factual answer. The more complicated answer is that Tzadik does, in fact, service about 12 stations that have supported his work since the very beginning of his career. Sending out more free product doesn't fit the label's financial model - and of course, review CDs are absolutely forbidden. But Zorn does, in fact, supply artists with copies of their own recordings to do with as they please, and many of them take PR and radio promo into their own hands (says someone who unexpectedly just received the new Singleton straight from the composer).
Tzadik releases are available at a radio discount via the distributor, Koch International (I used to help a fellow current Z-lister do just that when I worked there some years ago), but good luck working your way through their arcane chutes and ladders. You're better off doing what I've heard any number of other radio people say they've done: go sell 3-5 shitty CDs and buy the stuff you say you really want with the proceeds.
The entire thing is a function of Zorn's record-industry worldview, and we either deal with it or we don't.
Steve Smith
ssmith36@sprynet.com
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