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Zorn List Digest      Sunday, September 16 2001      Volume 03 : Number 568



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       Re: cathartic music in light of the tragedy of 9/11
       Re: cathartic music in light of the tragedy of 9/11
       Re: cathartic music in light of the tragedy of 9/11
       RE: cathartic music in light of the tragedy of 9/11
       Re: cathartic music in light of the tragedy of 9/11
       "for every Zizek, there is a pipek"
       RE: cathartic music in light of the tragedy of 9/11
       Is Evan Parker's "Monoceros" 1999 cd reissue already oop?
       Re: cathartic music in light of the tragedy of 9/11
       Diskaholics Anonymous Trio
       Re: Is Evan Parker's "Monoceros" 1999 cd reissue already oop?
       Fw: Red Cross Benefit at the Tonic
       Re: Diskaholics Anonymous Trio
       Re: Knitting Factory evacuated
       Re: Is Evan Parker's "Monoceros" 1999 cd reissue already oop?
       New Masada tracklist / Filmworks X / Ware's Sir Duke
       RE: Gary Davis & Skip James & Son House
       Re: Gary Davis & Skip James & Son House

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Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 21:53:04 -0700
From: Skip Heller <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: cathartic music in light of the tragedy of 9/11

>
> In a message dated 9/15/01 11:43:08 PM, [e-mail] writes:
>
> << (curtis mayfield makes sense more than
> anything else to me right now) >>
>
> I've been listening to a lot of Curtis Mayfield myself lately. anyone out
> there an expert on his post-Impressions solo catalog? is there a serious
> falloff after Curtis, Roots, Curtis Live, and Superfly? I've been hesitant to
> explore later material.
>
> also, as long as we're in this general area, are there any other Isaac Hayes
> records on the same level as Hot Buttered Soul?
>
> in the last few days, I've mostly been listening to a lot of solo guitar:
> Sugimoto, Mazzacane, Fahey, Akiyama, as well as AMM, Morton Feldman, and dach.
>
> Jon
> www.erstwhilerecords.com
>
> -
>
There's good stuff peppered throughout the Curtis catalog, but no one album
as good as that first handful.  The SHORT EYES soundtrack is the exception.
That's just fantastic.  NEW WORLD ORDER had some terrific moments, even if
it was flawed in many ways.

Most people never get around to those last couple of Impressions albums in
which Curtis participated, espec THE YOUNG MODS FORGOTTEN STORY.  There's
some incredible stuff there.

HOT BUTTERED SOUL is definitely the best Issac album, but SHAFT and BLACK
MOSES ain't far behind at all.

For solo guitar, you may wanna check out some of Merle Travis' best stuff,
most notably "Blue Smoke" and any Blind Blake stuff.  I am pretty sure Fahey
checked those things out, and, for me, they've always been straight-up.
Fahey has always been a little too brainy for my personal taste (for
whatever that's worth), but his taste is exquisite, and this is the kind of
stuff that's up his roots alley.  Personally, I've never much enjoyed solo
guitar (and I am a guitar player), but there are some guys who I find
irresistable -- Travis, Blake (both Blind and Norman), Doc Watson, Elliot
Fisk, and almost nobody else.

One evening, I saw Gatemouth Brown play a solo accoustic show, which he'd
never done before.  He even had to rent an accoustic guitar.  But he played
a version of -- get this -- "Unchained melody" that was absolutely
mind-bending.  He played the beginning as a chord-melody rubato thing, then
went into this hammer-on rhythm business that was not unlike the way Luka
Bloom played on his first album.  It was absolutely magic.

as ever --
skip h


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Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 01:05:10 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: cathartic music in light of the tragedy of 9/11

thanks for the feedback, Skip. unfortunately, it doesn't look like Short Eyes
is available on CD, except paired with Superfly, which I hardly need to buy
another version of.

<< Most people never get around to those last couple of Impressions albums in
which Curtis participated, espec THE YOUNG MODS FORGOTTEN STORY.  There's
some incredible stuff there. >>

actually, the only Impressions I have is a twofer of this and This Is My
Country, which I've never gotten too into. I tried again on my recent Curtis
kick, and it still didn't really grab me. maybe someday...

Jon
www.erstwhilerecords.com

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Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 22:39:54 -0700
From: Skip Heller <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: cathartic music in light of the tragedy of 9/11

> thanks for the feedback, Skip. unfortunately, it doesn't look like Short Eyes
> is available on CD, except paired with Superfly, which I hardly need to buy
> another version of.
>
> << Most people never get around to those last couple of Impressions albums in
> which Curtis participated, espec THE YOUNG MODS FORGOTTEN STORY.  There's
> some incredible stuff there. >>
>
> actually, the only Impressions I have is a twofer of this and This Is My
> Country, which I've never gotten too into. I tried again on my recent Curtis
> kick, and it still didn't really grab me. maybe someday...
>
> Jon
> www.erstwhilerecords.com
>
> -
>
Go right to "The Girl I Find" or "Wherever She Leadeth Me".  I discovered
those as singles, which led me to the album.  "Choice Of Colors" is pretty
great, too.

sh


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Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 03:52:04 -0400
From: "josephneff" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: cathartic music in light of the tragedy of 9/11

Hello,
        ....it's funny that Skip mentioned Blind Blake, who I heard for the
first time a few weeks ago, a Yazoo collection of his stuff, quite
excellent. Of course, I'm a total sucker for blues stuff, especially
acoustic. For my money, an unnervingly great two disc set is Columbia's
Blind Willie Johnson collection. Like Harry Smith's "Anthology", and the
Charley Patton 2 LP on Yazoo, this is to me some of the most important and
downright listenable music of the folk/blues/hill variety.

       ...so what other solo (or not) guitarists do listers hold in high
regard?

I remain,

Joseph

NP: Lungfish "Rainbows From Atoms" CD
NR: Herman Melville "Pierre, or the Ambiguities"
        John Barth "The Friday Book"


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Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 01:17:29 -0700
From: Skip Heller <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: cathartic music in light of the tragedy of 9/11

> Hello,
> ....it's funny that Skip mentioned Blind Blake, who I heard for the
> first time a few weeks ago, a Yazoo collection of his stuff, quite
> excellent. Of course, I'm a total sucker for blues stuff, especially
> acoustic. For my money, an unnervingly great two disc set is Columbia's
> Blind Willie Johnson collection. Like Harry Smith's "Anthology", and the
> Charley Patton 2 LP on Yazoo, this is to me some of the most important and
> downright listenable music of the folk/blues/hill variety.
>
> ...so what other solo (or not) guitarists do listers hold in high
> regard?
>
> I remain,
>
> Joseph
>
> NP: Lungfish "Rainbows From Atoms" CD
> NR: Herman Melville "Pierre, or the Ambiguities"
> John Barth "The Friday Book"
>
>
> -
>
I mentioned Blind Blake etc more as a guitar fetishist's thing.  Blind
Willie Johnson could hum more menace in one tune than anybody else has been
able to bring to their entire catalog.

You down with Rev Gary Davis' PURE RELIGION? That's about as good as it
gets.  He ain't funny.

skip h


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Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 11:21:02 +0200
From: "\"*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-." <[e-mail]>
Subject: "for every Zizek, there is a pipek"

>The US just got the taste of what goes on
>around the world on a daily basis, from Sarajevo to Grozny, from Rwanda and
>Congo to Sierra Leone."--Slavoj Zizek


It seems that this quote, as well as the paper it's excerpted from, has
become quite the popular explanation of the events of Sept.11.  It's been
posted on at least five lists that I know of, and I imagine it's being
forwarded to dozens more.

I really respected the guy before I read this; now I think he's just a
schmoe, and an overly academic one at that (e.g. let's start with his
analysis of "the Matrix", which appears earlier in the paper cited, and how
it relates to last week's terrorism).

In order to better consider his conclusion, I would gladly be willing to
consider a serious, realistic, sober-minded case-by-case analysis which
compares the events in NY and DC of last week to Sarajevo, Grozny, Rwanda,
Congo and Sierra Leone without resorting to either Hegelian/Lacanian
obfuscation or just plain sloppy reductionism.

(Or better yet, let's throw oodles of money at the guy and fly him to us to
he can explain it in person!  and then somebody can endow a chair so we can
hear more of this crap.)


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Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 11:19:10 -0400
From: "Caleb T. Deupree" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: cathartic music in light of the tragedy of 9/11

At 03:52 AM 9/16/01 -0400, josephneff wrote:
>
>       ...so what other solo (or not) guitarists do listers hold in high
>regard?

Skip James, Bukka White, and Son House all made some interesting music in
the same period as Patton.  They also lived a lot longer and made somewhat
less interesting music in the 60s, when Fahey and other collectors located
them and made new records.
- --

Caleb Deupree
[e-mail]

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Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 11:38:21 -0400
From: David Keffer <[e-mail]>
Subject: Is Evan Parker's "Monoceros" 1999 cd reissue already oop?

I am searching for a cd and thought folks on the Zorn-list might be able to
help.   (You have in the past.)  Looking for Evan Parker's "Monoceros".  I
know that there was a 1999 cd reissue on Chronoscope, but the usual sources
(Cadence, Forced Exposure, et al.) don't list it.  Is it possible that the
reissue has already gone out of print?  Is it available somewhere?

Thanks.

David K.

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Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 11:42:08 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: cathartic music in light of the tragedy of 9/11

In a message dated 9/16/01 11:22:07 AM, [e-mail] writes:

<< Skip James, Bukka White, and Son House all made some interesting music in
the same period as Patton.  They also lived a lot longer and made somewhat
less interesting music in the 60s, when Fahey and other collectors located
them and made new records. >>

while this seems to be the conventional wisdom, and may be true as a general
statement, the two Skip James Vanguard discs from the early sixties, Today!
and Devil Got My Woman, are among my favorite blues records of all time.

Jon
www.erstwhilerecords.com

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Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 12:01:45 -0400
From: David Keffer <[e-mail]>
Subject: Diskaholics Anonymous Trio

It seems that a band called "Diskaholics Anonymous Trio" is slated to open
for Fushitsusha next month (in Tokyo).  This band includes Thurston Moore,
Jim O'Rourke, and Mats Gustafsson.  Is this a band that has been touring
around or is it a new thing?  Anybody got info?  (That O'Rourke/Gustafsson
cd on incus last year was perty good, as was the earlier "parrot fish eye"
on Okka.)

On a peripherally related note:  for an upcoming performance, Ruins have
joined Keiji Haino to form a band called "Knead".  Although, they have
played together before it was always as Ruins and Haino. Maybe the
establishment of a band name indicates an official release is in the
works...?  I don't know.

(For more info see the "Live Dates" at
http://www.planetc.com/users/keffer/haino/index.html . )

David K.


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Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 12:24:48 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Is Evan Parker's "Monoceros" 1999 cd reissue already oop?

In a message dated 9/16/01 11:36:32 AM, [e-mail] writes:

<< Looking for Evan Parker's "Monoceros".  I
know that there was a 1999 cd reissue on Chronoscope, but the usual sources
(Cadence, Forced Exposure, et al.) don't list it.  Is it possible that the
reissue has already gone out of print?  Is it available somewhere? >>

try e-mailing Trevor Manwaring at [e-mail], he runs
Chronoscope. great CD, BTW.

Jon
www.erstwhilerecords.com

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Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 12:22:56 -0400
From: Perfect Sound Forever <[e-mail]>
Subject: Fw: Red Cross Benefit at the Tonic

Hi all,

Will definitely be at some of the Tonic shows.  Needless to say, the
eagerly anticipated Music Actuelle festival planned for the Tonic next week
is now cancelled.  A shame since it would have been the first U.S.
performance for many of the musicians involved.  I really hope that this
can be rescheduled here for some time in the future.  See
http://www.quebecnewyork.com/en/index.asp

To answer Jon's question about the Stock Market being open on Monday but
maybe not the Knit, the City has been making special provisions to open up
a corridor around Wall Street so that trading can resume on Monday.  Seems
that the Knit and other clubs in the area aren't as much of a priority.

Most people here have probably seen this info but just in case...  Here are
two worthy places that you can make donations to help with the WTC disaster:

American Red Cross Disaster Relief: http://www.redcross.org/donate/donate.html

New York State World Trade Center Relief Fund:
http://www.nyswtcrelieffund.vista.com/ (see http://www.state.ny.us/ for
more details)

Best,
Jason

Perfect Sound Forever
online music magazine
[e-mail]
http://www.furious.com/perfect


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Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 12:31:17 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Diskaholics Anonymous Trio

In a message dated 9/16/01 11:58:37 AM, [e-mail] writes:

<< It seems that a band called "Diskaholics Anonymous Trio" is slated to open
for Fushitsusha next month (in Tokyo).  This band includes Thurston Moore,
Jim O'Rourke, and Mats Gustafsson.  Is this a band that has been touring
around or is it a new thing?  Anybody got info? >>

Gustafsson sat in on the encore when Sonic Youth played the Hammerstein
Ballroom last year, and O'Rourke did a really nice trio show with Mats and
Ikue Mori just before that at Tonic. I know all three did some shows together
in Sweden last year, and they have a trio CD out, I believe on Crazy Wisdom,
which hasn't made it to the US yet.

Jon
www.erstwhilerecords.com

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Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 16:37:17 +0000
From: "Kurt Gottschalk" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Knitting Factory evacuated

jon said:

someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but they're still planning to open the
stock market on Monday, which is much closer to ground zero than the Knit
is.
unless their building has structural damage, I'd guess they'd be able to
open
in the next few days.

i don't think *any* building are reopening until the army corps of engineers
has declared them structurally sound. safe bet wall st. buildings were among
the first to be checked. some residential bldgs have also been checked out.
nightclubs i would expect will be among the last, and appropriately so. if
the knit does have structural damage, of course, it'll be even longer, maybe
never.

tonic reopened friday, and plans to resume gigs tuesday, by the way,
although the music actuelle fest is canceled.

and, since i've not checked in, let me say it's been heartening to read the
posts from around the world to us nyers. i'm alive and well, as are friends
and loved ones, thankfully, but of course the loss to the city, its
residents, the skyline, is enormous. i made it to ground zero, past the
national guard blockades (lawfully, mind you) yesterday. words don't
describe. i've been working about a dozen hours a day every day at the
newspaper, so i've been tardy with my 'present and accounted for.' but i've
been here in spirit (if different spirits).

a friend of mine got a phone call the other day from someone in ontario,
saying 'you don't know me but i know you live in new york because i dialed
212. i just wanted to let you know that everyone in canada is thinking about
everyone in the states.'

the pervasiveness of what happened on 9/11 is staggering, frightening,
deeply human...

kg
np: bessie smith 'lady luck blues'

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Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 13:49:52 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ken Waxman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Is Evan Parker's "Monoceros" 1999 cd reissue already oop?

David:

Have you tried Verge in Uxbridge, Ont.:

www.vergemusic.com


Ken Waxman

- --- David Keffer <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> I am searching for a cd and thought folks on the
> Zorn-list might be able to
> help.   (You have in the past.)  Looking for Evan
> Parker's "Monoceros".  I
> know that there was a 1999 cd reissue on
> Chronoscope, but the usual sources
> (Cadence, Forced Exposure, et al.) don't list it.
> Is it possible that the
> reissue has already gone out of print?  Is it
> available somewhere?
>
> Thanks.
>
> David K.
>
> -
>


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Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 16:40:28 +0000
From: Alex Werner <[e-mail]>
Subject: New Masada tracklist / Filmworks X / Ware's Sir Duke

Hi,

Just found the new 'Masada live at Tonic'
tracklist on Barnes & Noble:

disc1
1. Karaim
2. Ner Tamid
3. Acharei Mot
4. Kisofim
5. Jachin
6. Malkhut
7. Nashim
disc2
1. Lilin
2. Khebar
3. Hazoti
4. Malkhut
5. Shevet
6. Shamor
7. Acharei Mot
8. Kisofim
9. Shechem

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Where can i find some 30sec. samples and/or comments
on Filmworks X and Ware/Ribot's "Sir Duke"?

Thanks,
Alex Werner


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Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 18:58:27 -0400
From: "josephneff" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Gary Davis & Skip James & Son House

Hello,
        ...in response to Skip Heller's question, yes I'm down with Rev.
Gary. The "1935-1949" LP on Yazoo is just drenched in emotion and great
guitar playing.What's a good compact disc collection of his stuff?

        ...I have little experience with Skip James except for the few times
I've heard "I'm So Glad" on public radio. Fahey absolutely detested the guy
from what I've read. Are the Vanguard twofers out on CD?

       ...I'll defend the Son House two CD "Roots 'N' Blues" set. Since I
haven't heard his pre-war stuff, I can't compare, but on the 1965 sessions
which make up the 2CD, House's National Steel playing combines with his
assertive vocals in a grand fashion. No, he doesn't have that "stop you dead
in yr tracks" incendiary quality of Blind Willie Johnson, but IMHO his stuff
sustains an admirable intensity throughout. Still, I need to hear his early
work.

        ....funniest story I've heard about rediscovered blues artists
concerns a blues guitarist whose name I forget who was found by some
searching lads. They set up for him to record, but he showed up w/out his
guitar. Instead, he wanted to sing and play his new instrument, a rack
kazoo. Sadly, the budding folklorists didn't go for it.

I remain,

Joseph

NP: Son House "Father of the Delta Blues: The Complete 1965 Sessions" Disc
One
NR: Herman Melville "Pierre, or the Ambiguities"
        John Barth "The Friday Book"


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Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 15:46:24 -0700
From: Skip Heller <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Gary Davis & Skip James & Son House

> Hello,
> ...in response to Skip Heller's question, yes I'm down with Rev.
> Gary. The "1935-1949" LP on Yazoo is just drenched in emotion and great
> guitar playing.What's a good compact disc collection of his stuff?
>

PURE RELIGION is the one.

skip h
>


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