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Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 02:48:15 -0400
From: "Steve Smith" <ssmith36@sprynet.com>
Subject: RE: Lords of CHOAS!
Sez Ben apres Lang apres moi:
>> >Since I prefer the Cookie Monster school of vocalism,
>>
>> Well Steve do you get credit for this one? It's a perfect description of
>> the stuff I hear on the radio all the time (but never like enough to
>> actually buy).
>
> As much as I admire Steve's taste, alas, no. Type in "cookie monster
vocals"
> and "metal" in Google and you'll see what I mean.
Yup. It's true. You can find "cookie monster vocals" referenced in just
about every damn metal fanzine on earth now. I'm still waiting for the day
when I coin something that becomes that ubiquitous...
> (Weird --
> on page 3 I actually see a list I made for Amazon.com referenced in
Google!)
Weirder still - when you call up said list on Amazon, the related lists on
the right side of the page are almost entirely recommendations for
cookbooks, even though you only recommended a single cookbook. Guess the
Amazon software couldn't figure out what to make of the rest of your list.
Hell, the inclusion of Cryptopsy and the Cardigans alone probably sent their
poor server into a fugue state.
> So what's the opposite? Geddy Lee's testicles in a vise?
Like my dog really needs his very own rendition of "The Road to Bangkok"...
Steve Smith
ssmith36@sprynet.com
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Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 07:27:48 +0000
From: "Bill Ashline" <bashline@hotmail.com>
Subject: Zorn-pol
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<DIV></DIV>Pablo Neruda: "The best gift would be the restoration of a true democracy in the United States. In other words, the elimination of regressive forces in that country who spill blood in faraway lands. A great country like the United States, divested of its political and economic arrogance, would be a grand gift for the world."
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<DIV></DIV>"Intellectual alienation is a creation of middle class society. What I call middle-class society is any society that becomes rigidified in predetermined forms, forbidding all evolution, all gains, all progress, all discovery. I call middle class a closed society in which life has no taste, in which the air is tainted, in which ideas and men are corrupt....I am not a prisoner of history. I should not seek there for the meaning of my destiny. I should constantly remind myself that the real "leap" consists of introducing invention into existence. In the world through which I travel, I am endlessly creating myself."--Frantz Fanon
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<DIV></DIV>"The idea of revolution should not disappear. It means that the idea of subversion is synonymous with the defense of liberty in music. It is what Ornette sums up saying ?Remove the caste system from sound ? It is an important idea, potentially rich and in which I find completely my way. Because we are all prisoners of mind trends like : ½How are we supposed to perceive music ? ?what is the value of music in connection with our present society ?; ½will everybody like it ?; ?will this record be sold by millions ?; ½critics say that this record is great and that this other one is rubbish ? All these events happen before hearing one note ! And it conditions the judgment. But music is something else, something that you can never touch. Without all this propaganda, everybody could freely listen to it, according to his own experience."--Bill Laswell
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