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Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 00:02:59 +0000
From: "Bill Ashline" <bashline@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Cultural vs. regular Zionism II
<html><div style='background-color:'><DIV>>From: stephen.fruitman@idehist.umu.se (Stephen Fruitman) <BR>> <BR>>Just my last two cents on the Zitt-Gorgon discussion: <BR>> <BR>> >Chomsky <BR>> <BR>>A brilliant linguist but bizarre and tendentious loose cannon as far as his <BR>>media criticism and involvement in Middle East rhetoric is concerned. </DIV>
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<DIV>Really? How so? And why a "loose cannon?" Spend any time with his texts and you would be hard pressed to conclude that he's motivated by anything less than reason and rigor in his arguments. But of course it's the conclusions that trouble people the most. And they should. But the evidence is all there if one bothers to take a look.</DIV>
<DIV><BR>> <BR>>And btw, did you all know that Chomsky was a passionate Zionist in the <BR>>forties, wanted to go and fight around 1948? His parents introduced him to <BR>>a major linguist instead and his energies were directed elsewhere. Not sure <BR>>when his stance changed. </DIV>
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<DIV>Perhaps the sixties or earlier, after he had received a university education. More recently he's been accused of being an anti-semite for his opposition to Israeli policy toward the Palestinians. That's a laugher if there ever was one.</DIV>
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<DIV>IMO, the arguments against Zorn's Radical Jewish Culture project are misplaced. It's clear that Zorn has something eles in mind in his use of "radical" in this context.</DIV>
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<DIV>But we should be careful not to confuse cultural zionism with political zionism in any case.</DIV>
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<DIV>A recent quote from Chomsky on the Z-Net is below. I'd like to see how this representation of the sources of the conflict suggest that he's a "loose cannon."</DIV>
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<DIV>"<FONT face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Times">There is an official US position ù it was reiterated just yesterday by US ambassador Martin Indyk. He said we do not believe in rewarding violence. That was a stern admonition to the Palestinians yesterday, and there are many others like it. And itÆs easy to assess the validity of that claim. So letÆs assess it just in the obvious way. The Al-Aqsa Intifada, the violence that Indyk deplores, began on September 29th. ThatÆs the day after Ariel Sharon, now prime minister, went to the Haram Al-Sharif, the Temple Mount, with about a thousand soldiers. That passed more or less without incident, surprisingly. But the next day, which was Friday, there was a huge army presence as people left the mosque after prayers; there was some stone throwing and immediate shooting by the Israeli army and Border Patrol, which left about a half a dozen Palestinians killed and over a hundred wounded. ThatÆs September 29th. On October 1st, Israeli military helicopters, or to be precise US military helicopters with Israeli pilots, sharply escalated the violence, killing two Palestinians in Gaza. On October 2nd, military helicopters killed 10 people in Gaza, wounded 35. On October 3rd, helicopters were attacking apartment complexes and other civilian targets. And so it continued. By early November, the helicopters were being used for targeted political assassinations.</SPAN></FONT>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Times">And how did the US react? Well, the US reaction is interestingùand thatÆs us remember; we can control this if we choose. In mid September, before the fighting started, the US sent a new shipment of advanced attack helicopters to Israel. Also in mid September, there were joint exercises of the US Marines and elite units of the Israeli army, the IDFùtraining exercises for re-conquest of the occupied territories. The role of the Marines was to provide new advanced equipment that Israel didnÆt have and training in usage of it and techniques. ThatÆs mid September.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Times">On October 3rd ù that is the day that the press was reporting that military helicopters were attacking apartment complexes and killing dozens of people ù on October 3rd, the Israeli press announced and then the international press repeated that the US and Israel had reached a deal ù the biggest deal in a decade ù for dispatch of US military helicopters to Israel. The next day leading military journals reported that this included new advanced attack helicopters and parts for the former helicopters, which would increase the capacity to attack civilian targets. Incidentally the Israeli defense ministry announced that they cannot produce helicopters. They donÆt have the capacity so they have to get them from the United States. On October 19th, Amnesty International issued a report calling on the United States not to send military helicopters to Israel under these circumstancesùone of a series of Amnesty International reports."</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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