some of my favorite arrangers, all doing really great 'avant-garde' stuff within big band jazz of the 30s-60s, especially with vocalists.
Pete Rugolo : listen to June Christy's SOMETHING COOL from '55. that shit fucks your mind. five stars.
Paul Jordan : with Artie Shaw's orchestra, 1938 or thereabouts. the album is EVENSONG on Hep. wow!
Ralph Burns : FREE FORMS (1950?) is on a really amazing 2CD called LEE KONITZ MEETS JIMMY GIUFFRE (verve).
Eddie Sauter : arranger for Mildred Bailey/Red Norvo orchestra in the 1930s, as well as Benny Goodman. try BENNY GOODMAN PLAYS EDDIE SAUTER ARRANGEMENTS (a more representative title I've seldon heard!). also amazing is FOCUS by Stan Getz.
and, of course, Ellington and Strayhorn!
Good Luck.
Cheers,
Dave
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Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 13:26:23 -0700
From: Skip Heller <velaires@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: great arrangers in big band jazz
> Paul Jordan : with Artie Shaw's orchestra, 1938 or thereabouts. the album is
> EVENSONG on Hep. wow!
>
> Ralph Burns : FREE FORMS (1950?) is on a really amazing 2CD called LEE KONITZ
> MEETS JIMMY GIUFFRE (verve).
>
> Eddie Sauter : arranger for Mildred Bailey/Red Norvo orchestra in the 1930s,
> as well as Benny Goodman. try BENNY GOODMAN PLAYS EDDIE SAUTER ARRANGEMENTS (a
> more representative title I've seldon heard!). also amazing is FOCUS by Stan
> Getz.
>
> and, of course, Ellington and Strayhorn!
>
> Good Luck.
>
> Cheers,
> Dave
>
> -
>
PAUL JORDAN! I always wondered who did that chart.
Ralth's charts for Woody Herman, espec "Early utmn" (the orig with Getz) are
amazing.
For Sauter, he also did a filmscore with Getz as the featured soloist,
MICKEY ONE, that is just fanastic.
skip h
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 16:36:25 EDT
From: Nudeants@aol.com
Subject: Re: great arrangers
Andre Popp and his orchestra: Delerium in Hi-Fi.
CRAZY longy arrangements of 'normal' tunes, all sorts of bizarre studio effects, and all this in 1957, I believe!
- -Matt Mitchell
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 16:37:17 EDT
From: Nudeants@aol.com
Subject: ugh
Sorry, 'longy' is supposed to be LOUNGY.
though longy is a neat, weird sounding fake word.
- -matt mitchell
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 13:46:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: Scott Handley <thesubtlebody@yahoo.com>
Subject: Jazz with strings (Re: great arrangers...)
- --- Skip Heller <velaires@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > Eddie Sauter : ...also amazing is FOCUS by Stan
> > Getz.
I really loved Sauter's appropriation of Bartok as a
vehicle for Getz to blow and blow; that's a terrific
record, maybe the first and only one I've heard where
arrangements for large string ensembles plus
improvising soloists don't sound terrible. (I liked
some of Gunter Schuller's and Joe Lovano's RUSH HOUR,
I suppose.) Can anyone recommend good recordings
along these lines? (Not, I might add, simply
jazz/improv records "with strings" involved, but the
use of arrangements for chamber orchestras or large
groups of strings.)
- -----s
P.S. I've heard that Charlie Parker was proudest of
his recordings "with strings", but when I heard them a
few years ago, I remember thinking they were wretched.
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 16:54:48 EDT
From: DvdBelkin@aol.com
Subject: Avant big bands (was: Arrangers and Victo 2001)
The "great arrangers" thread and Brian's inclusion of Barry Guy's New Orchestra on his Victo 02 wish list got me to thinking...
We've currently got the New Orchestra, and the NOW Orchestra, and ICP, and Satako Fuji's big band(s), and William Parker's Little Huey, and Breuker's Kollektief, and sometimes David Murray's big band, and I guess the Sun Ra Arkestra, and periodically Charlie Haden's Liberation Music Orchestra, and Vinnie Golia's Large Ensemble, and the Italian Instabile Orchestra and (going back a bit) the LJCO and the Berlin Contemporary Orchestra, and...
Who else? And how would you rank 'em, either against each other or against the great big bands of the past? and how 'bout a fest that they ALL come to? ;-)
Me, I'm especially partial to ICP and NOW.
David
rl: Maurice Horsthuis, Amsterdam Drama --> Bradshaw Pack, Alogos
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 16:01:30 -0500
From: "John Thomas" <jgthomas@nortelnetworks.com>
Subject: RE: Houle/Delbecq
> From: James Hale <jhale@sympatico.ca>
> Subject: Re: Another Montreal Question
>
> I would add to Steve's recommendation, either of the two
> shows featuring
> Francois Houle and Benoit Delbecq. Saw them doing duets in
> Ottawa a few years
> ago and they were stunning.
>
Their CD release on Songlines _Nancali_ is quite beautiful as well.
A favorite of mine. I'm not a big fan of Houle but here he is quite
good and works very well with Delbecq. This record had me chasing
other things by Delbecq on obscure labels but I've found after 2 or
so more I still like _Nancali_ best.
John
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 17:13:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ken Waxman <mingusaum@yahoo.ca>
Subject: Re: great arrangers
Gil Evans
Gigi Gryce
Benny Golson
Billy Strayhorn
Don Redman
Budd Johnson
Thad Jones
Bob Brookmeyer
Gerry Mulligan
Jimmy Giuffre
Misha Mengelberg
Jelly Roll Morton
Spud Murphy
George Russell
Sy Johnson
Sy Oliver
Gerald Wilson
Sun Ra
Charles Mingus
Hal Overton
that should be a start
Ken Waxman
- --- richard ladew <rladew@mediaone.net> wrote:
> Does anyone have suggestions for a radio show Im
> doing next week on great arrangers?
>
> So far I have quite a limited list of the following
> whom I have been featuring throughout the month and
> for the last show I want to play nothing but great
> arrangers and expand my horizons a bit:
>
> Morricone
> Esquivel
> Brian Wilson
> Roland Kirk
>
> P.s. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
> I suppose the above are listener friendly and
> accesible although thats not necessarily what I want
