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Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 09:49:32 -0800 (PST)
From: Scott Handley <thesubtlebody@yahoo.com>
Subject: dub and its progeny
At the risk of being unacceptably off-topic, I'd like
to venture a request for folks' favorite dub or
strongly dub-inflected music. The
genre/approach/sensibility seems pretty prevalent, and
we've recently discussed some stuff that I think
qualifies (some Laswell, some of the "dark ambient" or
"isolationist" folks, etc.). To name a couple really
obvious things I've really enjoyed, I might mention:
The Congos: HEART OF THE CONGOS - I've enjoyed this
Blood and Fire 2d comp of Congos material--produced by
Lee "Scratch" Perry, the Upsetter, my selector--for
about four years now; beautiful reggae vocal stylings
from a dynamic Jamaican vocal duo. Plenty of Black
Ark Studios rattle and bounce.
Vladislav Delay - ENTAIN and ANIMA (both Mille
Plateaux) - This might not qualify, but especially
ENTAIN seems like a minimal-techno-refracted dub
experience. I enjoy this more than the Pole I've
heard; both artists seem to have comparable
approaches, which isn't to say they sound the same,
BASOTI; still, the Pole struck me as anemic. Delay's
assymmetrical deep synth bass, droning synth backdrop,
and diffused percussions are a really interesting
long-term listening experience, sustaining return
visits.
Well, enough for now. Thanks in advance.
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There are two Music Club compilations from Augustus Pablo and King Tubby that are inexpensive and quite good. The few dub compilations I've heard from Heartbeat are nice and most anything from the British label Blood & Fire will be worth checking out. Also the "Trojan Dub" box set, but that may be out of print now. Current stuff from Mad Professor has the right vibe though sometimes there's a bit too much electro-gibberish and he's so prolific that I can't remember any titles off hand (though the collaborations with Lee Perry are wonderful). The dub version of Burning Spear's "Marcus Garvey" is a classic and you can get both on a single CD.
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Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 10:39:59 -0800 (PST)
From: Scott Handley <thesubtlebody@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Spy vs. Spy (Zorn vs. Ornette)
- --- Bill Ashline <bashline@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Borrowing a poststructuralist motif, John Corbett,
> in his book "Extended
> Play," writes about productive "misreadings," where
> one intentionally
> misreads something in order to produce something
> else. It's a very useful
> idea, one that can be used in retort against certain
> forms of common sense.
I need to reference my Corbett, but it seems to me
that _unintentional_ misreadings (and I free this from
Harold Bloom's Oedipal-model "intention" of
misreading) can be really interesting, less
self-consciously attached to innovation (or the
"innovation" comes out somewhere contrary to the
producer's intent), and maybe more fully MIS-readings,
than would be someone's intentional, calculated
deviation; in Zorn's SPY V. SPY case, this calculation
took the form of collapsing two genres. I wish I had
a good example...ooh, this might be a fun thread.
Okay, for starters: didn't Lou Reed initially want the
Velvet Underground to be an R&B group? Of course, I'm
still talking mis-placed intentions...pretty hard to
nail those down, often just as illusory.
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"Electric guitar gets run over by a car on the highway/This is a crime against the state/This is the meaning of life...
Electric guitar is copied, the copy sounds better/Call this law and justice, call this freedom and liberty/I thought I perjure myself, right in front of the jury!"
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Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 11:03:36 -0800 (PST)
From: Scott Handley <thesubtlebody@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Frith new album?
- --- "Caleb T. Deupree" <cdeupree@erinet.com> wrote:
> Sounds like it could be his 2cd set of graphic
> scores, Stone, Brick, Glass,
> Wood, Wire. See the Fred discography
Anyone heard this and care to comment? I hadn't heard
a damn thing by Frith by 2000, now I have several
albums and am not disappointed with a one of them;
he's a beautiful genius, as though anyone on this list
needs to hear that.
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"Electric guitar gets run over by a car on the highway/This is a crime against the state/This is the meaning of life...
Electric guitar is copied, the copy sounds better/Call this law and justice, call this freedom and liberty/I thought I perjure myself, right in front of the jury!"