Subject: cecil on rationality, religion and conjuring
"logic is the lowest form of magic"
- -- cecil taylor (from the art ensemble CD he guested on)
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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 13:33:41 -0800 (PST)
From: Theo Klaase <river_of_dogs@yahoo.com>
Subject: Pat Metheny
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I'd like to hear from those who have a dramatic opinion on Pat Metheny as a guitarist/composer/arranger/etc.... one way or the other... E-mail me privately, Thank you....
- -That which is Theo "My philosophy, in essense, is the concept of man as a heroic being, with his own happiness as the moral purpose of his life, with productive achievement as his noblest activity, and reason as his only absolute."
An individualist is a man who says: "I will not run anyone else's life, nor let anyone rule mine. I will not rule or be ruled. I will not sacrifice myself for anyone, nor sacrifice anyone to myself." --Ayn Rand.
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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 13:44:12 -0800
From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <proussel@ichips.intel.com>
Subject: Re: cecil on rationality, religion and conjuring
On Mon, 12 Mar 2001 13:20:01 -0800 "Martin Wisckol" wrote:
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> "logic is the lowest form of magic"
> -- cecil taylor (from the art ensemble CD he guested on)
Should look great on a t-shirt.
Patrice.
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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:20:09 -0800
From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <proussel@ichips.intel.com>
Subject: Re: Religion/Music
On Mon, 12 Mar 2001 13:20:31 -0500 "Ryan W. Blum" wrote:
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> > From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <proussel@ichips.intel.com>
> > Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 08:10:01 -0800
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> >> There are several meanings of "science" which clearly include aspects
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > Could you clarify that? Who are the people who propose these "several
> > meanings of science which include aspects of religions".
> >
> > I know many crackpots who do that, but I am curious to see if you have
> > somebody in mind with some serious scientific credentials.
>
> You should read Einstein's thoughts on the subject, if you want a real
You might be confused by the meaning of his special and general relativity
theories :-). Einstein's position of what science is was quite clear and
leaves no room for "relativism".
Now if you want to talk about his position on the use of science, that's
another story.
> non-crackpot's pov. Also interesting is a conversation between the Dalai
> Lama and brain/cog. scientists (Francisco Varela) under the title "Sleeping
I am definitely looking forward for the Dalai Lama to be enlighted on
science... and I thought that he received a Nobel prize?
> Dreaming Dying." I'm not sure though if Buddhism will fit your (elusive)
> "religion" definiton. David Austin has a book out called "Zen and the Brain"
> which is 800 pages and an amazing read. &c... Even Prof. Gould has some
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Somebody once asked Einstein what he tought of a thick book written to
prove that his theory of special relativity was wrong, and he answered
that if this person was right, one page would have been enough :-).
> interesting thoughts on the matter. If by "serious scientific credentials"
> you mean "is Carl Sagan," then we probably won't find anyone.
No, but I tend to flee like the plague any book with Zen or Tao in the
