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Zorn List Digest       Monday, February 12 2001       Volume 03 : Number 280



In this issue:
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       Re: cecil taylor
       Re: cecil taylor
       Re: Deportees [cf. Das Junges Brooklyners]
       [PROMO, Conn. only]: Town and Country and Tony Conrad shows and some more
       Re: Nachtluft
       Great Jewish Gospel
       RE: cecil taylor
       Re: Evan Parker and Brotzmann in TEXAS
       Re: Request For Ambient Music Recommendations
       Re: Request For Ambient Music Recommendations
       RE: cecil taylor
       Oskar Aichinger
       Re[2]: blessings blowing in from chicago town
       magical power mako (was Re: Ambient Music Recs...)
       Re: magical power mako (was Re: Ambient Music Recs...)
       Tom Ze

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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 19:24:33 -0800
From: "s~Z" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: cecil taylor

>>>but i don't really know how to listen to free jazz, or what makes
it "good".
maybe someone can enlighten me.<<<

WHACK!

[Sound of Zen Master cracking adept upside the head]


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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 22:12:36 -0600
From: Joseph Zitt <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: cecil taylor

On Sun, Feb 11, 2001 at 09:42:13PM -0500, [e-mail] wrote:
> i just purchased Cecil Taylor's "Unit Structures", and i have yet to solidify
> an opinion.
> i think i like it, but i don't really know how to listen to free jazz, or
> what makes it "good".
> maybe someone can enlighten me.

Check out Ekkehard Jost's book "Free Jazz" for a somewhat detailed analysis
of the music from that album, among other free jazz classics.

I find Taylor a tough listen, and am intrigued by his work more than I
find myself moved to listen to it. (I surprised myself a few days back
when I organized some of my CDs and discovered that I had about eight
of his discs that I'd bought but never played.) OTOH, his records on the
New World label spun my ears around when I stumbled across them (along
with the Wildflowers series and the Smithsonian Collection) at my local
library in 1980 or so.

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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 00:00:08 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Deportees [cf. Das Junges Brooklyners]

> > But wait... Mark Feldman is slated to appear
> > in Bloomington, IN February  27 as part of
> > the John Abercrombie quartet. Should I assume,
> > then, that this is off?
>
> Anyway, I just wrote 'em to ask, I'll
> let you know when I hear.

It's still on.

David



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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 02:17:02 -0500
From: "Jesse Kudler" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [PROMO, Conn. only]: Town and Country and Tony Conrad shows and some more

Hello, and sorry for the intrusion.  Apologies especially if you receive
this more than once; I'm trying my best to spread the word wide since we
have no advertising budget and precious little happens in this state.

Anyway, a few interesting shows coming up in the next two weeks at Wesley=
an
University in Middletown, CT:

*Tony Conrad* will perform live on Feb. 16th, this Friday, at the World
Music Hall of Wesleyan at 8:00 p.m.  It looks like he'll probably be doin=
g
solo violin over a pre-recorded backing track.  Hopefully, he'll also spe=
ak
or take questions.  If you're unfamiliar, Tony is an under-documented but
crucial godfather of minimalist music, an erstwhile member of the Dream
Syndicate with LaMonte Young, John Cale, et al, and a maker of very pleas=
ing
microtonal drone music as documented by Table of the Elements records.  H=
e's
live appearances are fairly rare but generally quite intense and fairly
loud.  Should be awesome.  Cost is $5.

Chicago's *Town and Country* will be playing the following Thursday, Feb.
22.  Town and County consists of Chicago improvisers Liz Payne, Ben Vida
(both in Pillow), Jim Dorling, and Josh Abrams (Sam Prekop, LMC/Licht, Da=
vid
Boykin Outet, Bobby Conn, etc).  They play a very nice brand of
all-instrumental and all-acoustic "back-porch minimalism," as BOXMedia
records would have it, citing Morton Feldman and John Fahey as primary
influences.  Their last two releases were on Thrill Jockey.  Opening for
them will be Michael Leviton, Tim Howard, and Joey Meyer, all of whom pla=
y
acoustic guitars and sing, but none of whom will make you want to kill
yourself.  Show starts at 8:30 and will be $5 or less.  That's going to b=
e
at Eclectic House, 200 High St. in Middletown.

Also happening this weekend is this, which I didn't have a hand in puttin=
g
together:

*Indeterminacy, Intermedia, and Improvisation: Music in the =91Free=92 Wo=
rld
1950-1970
A Series of Discussions and Performances*
The evolution of world music at Wesleyan took a new direction as a result=
 of
John Cage=92s residency in 1961 and attempted to invent a new formal prin=
ciple
for the study of music. The =91Free =92 World will examine the differing =
musical
practices of the post-war period that engaged in a technical, social and
aesthetic restructuring in an attempt to identify their similarities, sav=
or
their differences, and consider their role as the radical roots of world
music at Wesleyan.

*George Jackson Memorial Symposium*
Guest speakers include John Corbett, author of Extended Play: Sounding Of=
f
from John Cage to Dr. Funkenstein; Jonathan Katz, of San Francisco City
College; Judith Lochhead, of the State University of New York at Stony
Brook; David Patterson, of the University of Illinois; and James Pritchet=
t,
author of The Music of John Cage.
Saturday, February, 17 9am-6pm; Sunday, February 18, 9am-12pm
Russell House
Free to the public

*Experimental Music: Chris Brown and Ron Kuivila*
Trained as a classical pianist and influenced by a variety of musical
genres, Chris Brown performs his composition Invention #4 for melody
instruments and networked computer music systems. Wesleyan music professo=
r
Ron Kuivila, who composes music and designs sound installations revolving
around unusual homemade and home-modified electronic instruments, perform=
s
his composition Timing.
Saturday, February 17, 8pm, World Music Hall
Tickets: $5 AB, $4 C

Also speaking at the symposium will be Anthony Braxton, Alvin Lucier, Geo=
rge
Lewis, and some others.

Sorry for the length of this, and again sorry for the bother.  For any mo=
re
info (I can hunt down a more precise schedule for the symposium events),
directions, or whatnot, reply to this e-mail address.  If anyone wants to
say hello at either the Tony Conrad or Town and Country shows, I'll proba=
bly
be doing sound for both.  By all means, say hi.

Thanks,
Jesse



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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 09:36:13 +0100
From: "Andreas Dietz" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Nachtluft

>From: "William York" <[e-mail]>
>
>anyway, i am glad to see i am not alone in not getting much out of the
>nachtulft cd, though.

I have the original european release and it rests in peace on the shelf
since years...

Andreas
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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 10:11:48 +0100 (MET)
From: [e-mail] (Stephen Fruitman)
Subject: Great Jewish Gospel

Saw a wonderful Swedish documentary on the weekend, _Keep On Walking_,
about one Joshua Nelson, an Afro-American Orthodox Jew from Newark who
teaches Hebrew school and sings gospel like nobody=B4s business in Baptist
churches. Mahalia Jackson=B4s old piano player accompanies him and says he
never thought he=B4d hear another voice like Mahalia=B4s in his lifetime bef=
ore
he heard Joshua. In the programme he spoke of how for him, gospel is the
logical link between Judaism and the Black American experience - the texts
are often inspired by the Old Testament, and the history of questing for
freedom from persecution is a common denominator. He also teaches his
Baptist choir Jewish psalms and melodies. He=B4d make a great addition to
Zorn=B4s "Great Jewish Music" series.... All the best, Stephen

Stephen Fruitman
Dept of Historical Studies
Ume=E5 University
SE-901 87 Ume=E5 Sweden



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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 01:23:35 -0800
From: "Benito Vergara" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: cecil taylor

>-----Original Message-----
>From: [e-mail]
[mailto:[e-mail]]On >>Behalf Of [e-mail]
>Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 6:42 PM

>i just purchased Cecil Taylor's "Unit Structures", and i have yet to
solidify
>an opinion.
>i think i like it, but i don't really know how to listen to free jazz, or
>what makes it "good".
>maybe someone can enlighten me.

That's 'cause you have to prepare yourself mentally before you listen to
Cecil Taylor -- and as Branford Marsalis put it, that's just "self-indulgent
bullshit" <duck>.

(BTW, does anyone feel that even Branford was set up for that one?)

Oops -- I should clarify that I'm referring to the last episode of "Jazz." I
have to say I cannot remember another time I heard the term "avant-garde"
pronounced with so much *disdain*. (And all the stuff about the AEOC "losing
its black audience" I just found upsetting...)

About the only thing redeeming that episode was the shot of the Duke kissing
Tricky Dick...

Later,
Ben


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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 10:20:38 +0100 (MET)
From: [e-mail] (Stephen Fruitman)
Subject: Re: Evan Parker and Brotzmann in TEXAS

Speaking of the former, 30 Hertz Records announces that their next release
will be

Jah Wobble & Evan Parker, _Passage to Hades_.

Anyone heard any advance info? Regards, Stephen

Stephen Fruitman
Dept of Historical Studies
Ume=E5 University
SE-901 87 Ume=E5 Sweden



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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 07:04:28 -0500
From: David Keffer <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Request For Ambient Music Recommendations

Regarding the compilations on Virgin UK, I agree that
Ambient 4: Isolationism is too full cds of pretty stellar
music, pretty surprising for a major label "genre" compilation.

<<<
The "numbered" series ended at four; however Virgin put out several other
CDs in the AMBT catalogue number series, including ... "Tokyo Invasion Vol
1: Cosmic Kurushi Monsters" (Ruins, Musica Transonic, Haino etc),
>>>

"Tokyo Invasion Vol 1: Cosmic Kurushi Monsters" is just about the opposite
compilation:  a major label scavenging.  The list of artists included reads
like the Who's Who of mid-nineties Japanese independent musicians who had
some success in the west, but the particular song selection leaves a lot to
be desired.  Of the artists I know included on the cd, the songs chosen to
"represent" them are just "average" songs.  Since the compilation includes
exclusively previously released material, you would think that the label
might have been able to go through the artist's catalog and select better
songs.  As it is, this comp leaves the impression that the most important
thing was the list of artists included rather than the actual audio content.

track listing:
1.Musica Transonic - aytybpioys
2.Omoide Hatoba - we are hello
3.Space Streakings - houkago seikean aesthe
4.Jyoji Sawada's Base of Fiction - the quiet noon
5.Ruins - graviyavnosch
6.Demi Semi Quaver - [s]mash room
7.Keiji Haino - You who will in no way, I who can in no way
8.Masaki Batoh - yoo do right
9.Bass Army - owatte inai koto ga aru
10.Hirihito - metaric machine
11.Optical*8 - halle halle
[disc two]
12.Shizuka - blood stained blossom
13.Kato Hideki - savage
14.Kazayuki K. Null & Ichiro Agata - love isn't blind
15.Fushitusha - untitled
16.Melt Banana - sick zip everywhere
17.Boredoms - pow wow wow
18.Vajra - Before the snow falls, falling leaves have no meaning
19.Ground Zero - paraiso 1
20.Altered States - martzmer
21.High Rise - mira
22.Magical Power Mako - blue dot

David K.

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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 06:45:26 -0600 (CST)
From: Whit Schonbein <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Request For Ambient Music Recommendations

hi - i don't have a lot of ambient music, but one of my favorite eno
ambient works is 'thursday afternoon', one 61-minute piece of gentle,
suspended animation.

scott mentioned B. Gunter's UN PEU DE NEIGE SALIE (Selektion/Table of the
Elements), noting that it is "notoriously quiet". it certainly is quiet -
i've 'listened' to it several times, but can't tell if i've ever heard it.
it's almost like an audio placebo - there's not really anything there, but
it makes you listen really closely.

cheers,
whit
np - gunter's UN PEU DE NEIGE SALIE




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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 08:18:48 -0500
From: Lang Thompson <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: cecil taylor

>(BTW, does anyone feel that even Branford was set up for that one?)

I wondered the same thing.  Since Branford got David Ware signed to
Columbia he's clearly not anti-avantgarde.  But it's like using the one
time only three people showed up for an Art Ensemble gig as a way to knock
their entire career.

Lang

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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 14:49:15 +0100
From: Geert Buelens <[e-mail]>
Subject: Oskar Aichinger

Does anybody know if this man is related to (= a relative of) the
Austrian poet Ilse Aichinger? And what do you know about his music?
thanks

geert


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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 10:34:04 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re[2]: blessings blowing in from chicago town

jon queried:
since no one else chimed in, I feel compelled to ask: does anyone else think
this is true?

again, jon, no offense to you or other proprietors, producers or purveyers is
intended. and i'm certainly one given to -- and happily -- superlatives. so is
atavistic really the best label in the world? uh... i don't care. but to me it
was an exciting list of upcoming releases.

jon went on:
so, Kurt or anyone else, what are the flat out classic records that Atavistic
has been releasing, new or reissues?


hell, i dunno. i certainly didn't just mean the unheard music series. fred
anderson's milwaukee tapes and ken vandermark's simpatico come to mind. glad to
see mcphee reissues no matter who puts them out. and nerve beats holds up to
tempo comodo im--ever so--ho.

kg
np: ella fitzgerald "take the a train"



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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 07:56:18 -0800 (PST)
From: Scott Handley <[e-mail]>
Subject: magical power mako (was Re: Ambient Music Recs...)

- --- David Keffer <[e-mail]> wrote:
> 22.Magical Power Mako - blue dot

Could anyone say something about Magical Power Mako?
I keep hearing the name dropped, and it sounds like a
person with the same kind of mystic/peripatetic like
Haino, with strong psych creds.  Maybe some
recommendations would be nice.  (I'm just starting to
dig some new and old psych-related musics.)

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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 11:54:06 -500
From: Matt Laferty <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: magical power mako (was Re: Ambient Music Recs...)

I, for one, really dig Magical Power Mako.  I've heard all the
atavistic records, and like most of them, but what really blows me out
of the proverbial water is the self-titled debut, the one with the
kitty and the puppy on the cover.

This record is one of the most far-out mystical bordering on
ridiculous, yet entirely serious albums I've ever heard. The guitar
work is stunning in a lyrical and completely blissed out way.  The
choruses of children move me to tears, and the moments of strange
noise are magic.

The day that I recieved this record, Ash Ra Tempel's first, the
Destroy All Monsters cd set, and 50 Foot Hose's first album is a day
that I will remember as the beginning of my break down (this is a good
thing...) and the beginning of something else.

So yeah, I really like Magical Power Mako.

matt


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> --- David Keffer <[e-mail]> wrote:
> > 22.Magical Power Mako - blue dot
>
> Could anyone say something about Magical Power Mako?
> I keep hearing the name dropped, and it sounds like a
> person with the same kind of mystic/peripatetic like
> Haino, with strong psych creds.  Maybe some
> recommendations would be nice.  (I'm just starting to
> dig some new and old psych-related musics.)
>
> ----s, far out
>
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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 10:54:03 -0700
From: "Matthew W Wirzbicki  (S)" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Tom Ze





>However, I saw Tortoise as the backup band for Tom Ze,

I'm wondering what people here have to say about Tom Ze's
music.  I've heard one compilation recording (I don't even
know the name because I was listening to a friend's burned
copy w/no track list etc.).  I guess I'm wondering what
recordings are most worthwhile and whether or not there's a
kind of chronological trajectory to be aware of...(?)

The compilation sounded kind of hit and miss...I'm wondering
if there's a more consistantly interesting recording availible.

thanks
Matt Wirzbicki

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