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From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest)
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Subject: Zorn List Digest V3 #88
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Zorn List Digest Monday, October 2 2000 Volume 03 : Number 088
In this issue:
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zorn uptown manhattan show?
Re: beatles....no zorn content. sorry for the unrelated post.
Re: violin
Bill Laswell's Reconstructions
Re: Seppuku
Mark Molnar & Seppuku
p. haynes
re: SEPPUKU
Re: p. haynes
Re: Bill Laswell's Reconstructions
Re: beatles white album
Re: Beatles...and organs
Re: muslimgauze
Re: p. haynes
Re: p. haynes
Violinists & geniuses
Re: graewe et. al.
Rautavaara
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Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 17:41:34 -0400
From: Ian Farrell <ifarrell@nyc.rr.com>
Subject: zorn uptown manhattan show?
I got a flyer for a zorn chamber music concert uptown around lincoln center
and now I have lost it and forgotten the name of the venue. Anyone know of
the event here in manhattan in the next few months or early next year at a
jewish focussed institution of somesort?
THANKS!
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Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 17:48:52 -0400
From: "&c." <parksplace@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: beatles....no zorn content. sorry for the unrelated post.
I will preface this with saying that I am a Beatles fan and have been for
some time...
I agree with the definition of Pop Music, but the Beatles transcended merely
pop music. In some ways they transcended rock. They "took risks," that
weren't really such. No one without millions of fans could make something
like The White Album popular. It sold solely by the grace of them being the
Beatles. Where The White Album is interesting, it isn't worthy of the
attention it received. It sounds like the went into the studio and screwed
around. In their defense, their screwing around sounds a lot better than
most of us "people of average intellect" would sound.
Experimentation is allowed more freely when a person or group establishes a
reputation for genius. Not all Zorn albums are brilliant, but "they are"
because he's Zorn (No slander against Mr. Zorn, I love the guy as much as
any). If experimentation can be seen as such not as genius, then I'm fine
with it.
&c.
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Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 18:04:23 -0400
From: Mathieu Belanger <belanmat@MAGELLAN.UMontreal.CA>
Subject: Re: violin
Hello,
>Last year, I was visiting my sister in Ottawa, Canada, and she took me to a
>show at the National Gallery.
>There was a trio playing called Seppuku.
>The main guy in the band played violin and cello.
>Does anyone know his work?
>Mark Molnar (maybe I spelled it wrong?).
>(...)
>My sister said he was performing in Montreal at the same place that the
>Vandermark 5 just played at, sometime in October... is anyone going?
>I'm in New York and won't be able to make it.
That would be Casa del Popolo. It is not listed on the calender they have on
the constellation web site (http://www.cstrecords.com/html
casadelpopolo.html):
10.04 Parts Unknown (T.O.), Detroit Metal
10.06 Sackville
10.07 Alien8 night
10.13 Great Balancing Act (Moncton)
10.15 monthly spoken word night
10.19 1-Speed Bike (record release), The Radio Orchestra, Technot
10.21 Umetik Umetum
10.24 Tarantel (USA)
10.28 American Devices
On the other hand, their board list much more thing than this list... Maybe
somebody with a better memory visited the Casa recently?
I would probably go, your description sounds interesting.
Mathieu
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Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 18:11:45 -0400
From: "Neil H. Enet" <nilugo@usa.net>
Subject: Bill Laswell's Reconstructions
Hello list,
I've been enjoying a lot Bill Laswell's reocnstructions albums. I have
Miles Davis Panthalassa's, Bob Marley's Dreams of Freedom, Imaginary Cuba,
Emerald Aether (the Irish one).
What else reconstructions are out there?
Thanks in advance
Neil H. Enet
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NP. CIBO MATTO: viva! la woman
- -
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Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 15:33:32 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ryan Novak <ryan_novak@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Seppuku
>From: "jacob melville"
<human_temper@hotmail.com>Subject: Re: violin
>RE: VIOLIN PLAYERS
>Last year, I was visiting my sister in Ottawa,
>Canada,
>and she took me to a show at the National Gallery.
>There was a trio playing called Seppuku.
>The main guy in the band played violin and cello.Does
>anyone know his work?
>Mark Molnar (maybe I spelled it wrong?).
>It was improv within compositions, and he was out of
>this world. Both on
>violin and cello. I'd put him up there with everyone
>we've been talking
>about. It was unbelievable.
Hey,
I actually met Mark Molnar at the Victo Festival last
year. He wasn't performing, but he and a friend did
see me trying to figure out how to work a parking slip
machine- "I'm American, how do you work this
machine?". Though that was never forgotten, I ended
up watching a lot of the shows with him and his
friends. Nice guy, as well as his friends.
>During the middle of a long violin piece, he wove the
>strangest melody in
>and out of a HUGE vocalulary of sounds, and there
>were people around me
>CRYING. I've never seen anything like it.
I'm very interested to hear that, since I never saw
him play live. I like the recording a lot, but that
sounds really impressive.
>quiet and personal, but the live performance was damn
>powerful.
>Does anyone know where he's from?
He's from Ottawa as far as I know. I think there was
an email contact on his disc where you might find out
about performance dates too, if you haven't already
tried.
And I bought his CD at the Black Tomato in Ottawa on
my journey home, a place his friend ran where you can
eat, drink and listen to CDs before you buy. They had
lots of avant-garde/cool stuff there too. Very nice
to give a listen to things first, not many places do
that. Wish something like that was nearer me.
Anyway,
Ryan
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Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 19:58:07 +0000
From: Philippe Dupuis <dupuisph@nb.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Mark Molnar & Seppuku
- -RE: VIOLIN PLAYERS
- -Mark Molnar (maybe I spelled it wrong?).
mark is a good friend of mine and i would say that humble &
intelligent are two very good words to describe him.
in fact, i've JUST finished a 16mm short film called Hopeful
Losers - which he did the soundtrack for.
it got played in Moncton's (New Brunswick) FICFA film festival
a couple of weeks ago.
the music is divided in two themes/ characters and consists of
i) string work (violin, cello, viola)
ii) percussive work (cymbals, wood blocks and guitar)
- -Has anyone seen him perform?
i haven't had the chance to see him perform, but i have his Seppuku
album called The Awesome Houses of Earth's Innocents.
it's on the Spectra Sonic label ...
http://www.spectrasonic.com/newsite/
he also plays with two other bands (that i know of) called Rake and
Brandon Walsh.
martin
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Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 16:04:14 -0700
From: "graham connah" <connah@earthlink.net>
Subject: p. haynes
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jeff C. said:
This was actually {Haynes'} first-ever show on the West Coast, altough
him and Golia have performed together in New York. Great performance.
not so. at yoshi's in oakland in 94 with ben goldberg, and again there
earlier this year with golberg again.
jeff also said:
How could I forget? Dolphy/Mingus--a great combo that never recorded as a
duo. ..
perhaps not intentionally. but their duet on "i can't get started" from
wuppertal, 4-26-1964, is on an Enja release called Mingus In Europe. their
duet on These Foolish Things from Stuttgart 4-28-64 was bootlegged on the
fantastic Mingus In Stuttgart (unique jazz label).
sorry bout the MIME, can't seem to get it to go aw==4)=-+?:x'"""ay.
graham
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<FONT SIZE=3D"2">jeff C. said:<BR>
This was actually {Haynes'} first-ever show on the West Coast, altoug=
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him and Golia have performed together in New York. Great performance.=
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not so. at yoshi's in oakland in 94 with ben goldberg, and again there earl=
ier this year with golberg again.<BR>
<BR>
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jeff also said:<BR>
<BR>
How could I forget? Dolphy/Mingus--a great combo that never recorded =
as a <BR>
duo. ..<BR>
<BR>
perhaps not intentionally. but their duet on "i can't get started"=
; from wuppertal, 4-26-1964, is on an Enja release called Mingus In Europe. =
their duet on These Foolish Things from Stuttgart 4-28-64 was bootlegg=
ed on the fantastic Mingus In Stuttgart (unique jazz label).<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
sorry bout the MIME, can't seem to get it to go aw=3D=3D4)=3D-+?:x'""&q=
uot;ay.<BR>
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Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 17:04:08 MDT
From: "jacob melville" <human_temper@hotmail.com>
Subject: re: SEPPUKU
I just talked to my sister.
She phoned Casa del Popolo to get tickets for SEPPUKU. They will be playing
there on October 17th. No idea who is opening for them, and she had no idea
what his band will be.
I found an interview with Mark Molnar from SEPPUKU at
www.iam.bubblegumcage.com
Matthieu, you said you'd check it out? Let me know how it goes.
I'm not in Canada right now and I can't go.
Ryan, What is the Black Tomato? A Restaurant that sells CD's???? Is that
what you said???? (weird).
Another violinist to add to the list is Iva Bittova, who was at the
Victoriaville festival too (if i remember correctly). Has anyone ever seen
her perform? I saw her in Munich with Tom Cora and it was great. She's quite
an artist!!!!
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Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 19:30:01 EDT
From: Jeffcalt@aol.com
Subject: Re: p. haynes
connah@earthlink.net writes:
> not so. at yoshi's in oakland in 94 with ben goldberg, and again there
> earlier this year with golberg again.
well, maybe someone should remind him. or perhaps i heard 'em wrong...maybe
it was just the first time he'd played LA. I thought I heard emcee Alex
Cline announce something like "first time on the West Coast, right Phil?"
ah, minutiae.
jeff
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Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 23:33:51 GMT
From: "Bill Ashline" <bashline@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Bill Laswell's Reconstructions
>From: "Neil H. Enet" <nilugo@usa.net>
> I've been enjoying a lot Bill Laswell's reocnstructions albums. I have
>Miles Davis Panthalassa's, Bob Marley's Dreams of Freedom, Imaginary Cuba,
>Emerald Aether (the Irish one).
>
>What else reconstructions are out there?
Sapho, "Digital Sheika"
Aisha Kandisha's Jarring Effects, "Shabeestation"
Boris Feoktistov, "Russian Chants"
Somma I, "Hooked on Light Rays"
Pharoah Sanders, "Message From Home"
If you like rap, Material, "Intonarumori"
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Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 19:51:32 -0400
From: "Caleb T. Deupree" <cdeupree@erinet.com>
Subject: Re: beatles white album
At 05:48 PM 10/2/00 -0400, &c. wrote:
>No one without millions of fans could make something
>like The White Album popular. It sold solely by the grace of them being=
the
>Beatles. Where The White Album is interesting, it isn't worthy of the
>attention it received. It sounds like the went into the studio and screwed
>around. In their defense, their screwing around sounds a lot better than
>most of us "people of average intellect" would sound.
You're correct about screwing around. George Martin always said he wished
he could have edited it down to one excellent disc. But more importantly,
I use the White Album, specifically Revolution #9, as a reference point for
my current tastes, because it's the only musique concr=E8te that many people
are likely to have ever heard. Zappa was doing it in the 60s too, but no
one remembers Only Money the way they do the White Album.
- --
Caleb Deupree
cdeupree@erinet.com
Work like you don't need the money. Love like you've never been hurt. Dance
like nobody's watching.
- -- Satchel Paige
- -
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Date: 2 Oct 2000 23:57:04 -0000
From: "Tim Keenliside" <timkeen@disinfo.net>
Subject: Re: Beatles...and organs
On Mon, 2 Oct 2000 22:30:12 +0200 Jerzy Matysiakiewicz
<jerzym@dom.zabrze.pl> wrote:
> Dave Stewart (Egg)
>Oh, yeah, but don't forget 'bout the great "Arzachel" LP
with Steve Hillage
>
...or their later collaboration on 'Space Shanties' by
Khan, Hillage's band with the drummer and bassist from
'Crazy World of Arthur Brown', which leads us to Vincent
Crane, and some pretty amazing rock organisms with Atomic
Rooster!
As for the Beatles, they were certainly more than a pop
group, they were a social and cultural phenomenon, and as
it goes, I would not have gotten into all this great
musick, if not for them! They opened up everyone's ears to
new sounds, their use of the sitar (predated by the
Yardbirds for what that's worth) meant everyone
'discovered' and listened to Indian classical music. When
McCartney namechecked Stockhausen, we all went looking for
his records, a Capt. Beefheart poster in a photo of Lennon
led us to 'Safe As Milk'. Their instrumental abilities
mean nothing in the context, they were merely a conduit
for a veritable flood of new concepts that burst into
public consciousness from the 'beat' underground. If
anything, they were 'divinely' inspired, and certainly
props should go to George Martin, the studio 'genius' who
translated their ideas into reality. There is no musician
who followed them, who remains untouched by their
influence! Please, do yourself a favour, go and listen to
'Tomorrow Never Knows', 'I Am The Walrus', 'Strawberry
Fields Forever', 'Revolution #9', 'Inner Light', 'A Day In
The Life', and then try to convince us that they were an
overrated mediocre pop band..
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Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 23:59:33 GMT
From: "Bill Ashline" <bashline@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: muslimgauze
>From: Scott Handley <thesubtlebody@yahoo.com>
>I cruised to the "official" Muslimgauze site last
>night and was shocked to learn that Bryn Jones (aka
>Muslimgauze) died abruptly almost two years ago. I'd
>read some about his staggeringly huge catalog and
>hoped someone could direct me to some good recording
>to start with; stuff _you_ like. Descriptions would
>be appreciated, and if you're not comfortable OT-ing
>the Zorn-list, e.mail me off-list.
The Muslimgauze I like best is the pre-distortion stuff, circa 1993:
"Veiled Sisters," "Salaam Aleikum Bastard," "Vote Hezbollah," and "Zulm."
Unfortunately, only Veiled and Zulm are in print. The heavier, dubbier
stuff would include "Arab Quarter," "Narcotic," "Observe with Sadiq Bey,"
"Hussein Mahmood Jeeb Tehar Gass." My favorite is probably "Narcotic." The
distorted stuff includes "Farouk Engineer" and "Mazar-I-Sharif." Some of it
gets pretty repetitive, especially the late era stuff. But he's still one
of the more fascinating innovators of electronica going, using rhythms,
voice samples etc. There's a free CD download on the aforementioned site
called "Jebel Tariq" which is pretty representative. Since he was so
prolific, most of the work is released in very limited editions and goes out
of print all the time.
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Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 17:15:43 -0700
From: "s~Z" <keith@pfmentum.com>
Subject: Re: p. haynes
>>>not so. at yoshi's in oakland in 94 with ben goldberg, and again there
earlier this year with golberg again.<<<
First ever Los Angeles performance.
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Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 17:22:52 -0700
From: "s~Z" <keith@pfmentum.com>
Subject: Re: p. haynes
>>>not so. at yoshi's in oakland in 94 with ben goldberg, and again there
earlier this year with golberg again.<<<
First ever Los Angeles performance.
It is hard for us to admit the West Coast keeps going north of us.
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Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 09:56:56 +0930
From: "Michael Vandelaar" <mikerita@ihug.com.au>
Subject: Violinists & geniuses
Sherlock Holmes
Cheers,
Michael
- -
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Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 21:50:46 -0500
From: Steve Smith <ssmith36@sprynet.com>
Subject: Re: graewe et. al.
Whit Schonbein wrote:
> the dissapointment lies in the fact that graewe's duo album with frank
> kutowski (sp) (who plays tenor sax) is great, as is his work with the
> graewe / risinjer/ hemingway trio. these works are, in my opinion,
> essential
As is, for my money, one of the greatest free improv CDs I've heard yet,
'Spellings' by Frisque Concordance, released in 1995 on the Random Acoustics
label. The rest of the group: John Butcher, Hans Schneider and Martin
Blume. Breathtaking.
Steve Smith
ssmith36@sprynet.com
NP - bad new TV show with Oliver Platt
- -
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Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 21:58:53 EDT
From: Samerivertwice@aol.com
Subject: Rautavaara
For all of you who were kind enough to share your wealth of knowledge and
time with me concerning my classical music question last week, I've just
received the first three of five Rautavaara CDs I ordered. (I actually
ORDERED six CDs, but only five of them were in stock.) Disc one -- The Flute
Concerto -- is not as good as the Violin Concerto I heard on the radio last
week, but it is still a beautiful and challenging piece. Highly recommended.
I hope the Violin Concerto will arrive tomorrow.
And again, thanks for all your help.
Cheers,
Tom
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perhaps in music, because that art contains no material
to be deducted. It is wholly form and intrinsic value,
and it elevates and ennobles everything which it expresses.
--Johann Wolfgang Von Goethe
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