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From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest)
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Subject: Zorn List Digest V3 #76
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Zorn List Digest Thursday, September 28 2000 Volume 03 : Number 076
In this issue:
-
Best Zorn Albums... Filmworks 2?
Chadbourne and Lovens southern tour
Re:Marion Brown/we ain't all Yanks
Ikue Mori: B/Side
Sax/bass wars
chas. lloyd, italo calvino
Re: chas. lloyd, italo calvino
Re: italo calvino
Re: italo calvino
Drummers
Elegy
Re: Sax/bass wars
Re: Drummers
Re: Drummers
sax bass wares
Help with a Classical title/recording (No Zorn)
Re: Help with a Classical title/recording (No Zorn)
Re: Help with a Classical title/recording (No Zorn)
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 06:14:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: Theo Klaase <river_of_dogs@yahoo.com>
Subject: Best Zorn Albums... Filmworks 2?
I thought Filmworks 2 was okay but I prefer
Filmworks 3,5,7, and 8 first. As far as other Zorn
favorites they are as follows: (...and this is coming
from a guy who has all but 2 of Zorn's releases...)
Taboo and Exile
Anything Naked City (except maybe Leng T'che)
Masada 1,3, and especially 8 & 10 & live in Sevilla.
Spillane/Godard
The Bribe
Filmworks 3,5,7 and 8 with a few tunes from 6
The Big Gun Down (new edition)
Euclid's Nightmare
although I really like it all, these are some of my
favorites...
=====
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 09:43:30 -0500
From: pedro moreno <carbuncle@mail.utexas.edu>
Subject: Chadbourne and Lovens southern tour
Maverick musician Eugene Chadbourne will be touring the southern United
States with veteran improvising drummer Paul Lovens.
please help spread the word
more info....
http://www.nr.infi.net/~chadnc/HouseOfChadula/EugeneHome.html
http://www.paristransatlantic.com/magazine/interviews/chadborn.html
http://www.shef.ac.uk/misc/rec/ps/efi/mlovens.html
(ME and PAUL)
Eugene Chadbourne and Paul Lovens Southern Tour Dates
Sept. 30 Tomatohead,. Knoxville, Tenn.
Oct. 1 Arts Watch, Louisville, Kentucky
Oct. 2 Springwater, Nashville, Tenn.
Oct. 3 JuanitaÆs Annex, Little Rock, Ark.
Oct. 5 Hole in the Wall, Austin, Tx. 2539 Guadalupe Street . contact
epistrophyarts@hotmail.com
Oct. 6 TacoLand, San Antonio, Tx on elmira street. contact
sanford@mailtexas.net
Oct. 7 Meca, 1907 Kane, Houston, Tx. call 713 666-5555 for details
Oct. 8 Workshop, Meca, Houston
Oct. 9 Zeitgiest, New Orleans, LA 1724 ORETHA CASTLE HALEY BLVD @
BARRISTERÆS GALLERY (BETWEEN EUTERPE AND POLYMNIA IN THE VENUS
GARDENS COMPLEX). http://www.gnofn.org/~zte/
Oct. 10 Mermaid Lounge, New Orleans, LA 1100 Constance St, NOLA 70130
Oct. 11 Mono-09-pad, Birmingham, Ala.
Oct. 12 Earthshaking Music, Atlanta, GA
Oct. 13 Natural Mystic Coffee, Asheville, NC
Oct. 15 Durham house concert, Ian Davis' place, Me and Paul
Pedro Moreno
Epistrophy Arts
Austin Texas
http://www.independentaustin.com/epistrophy.html
Pedro G. Moreno
Acquisitions Dept., PCL 2.300
General Libraries
University of Texas at Austin
Austin, Texas 78713
voice: 512-495-4146
fax: 512-495-4410
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 10:43:58 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ken Waxman <mingusaum@yahoo.ca>
Subject: Re:Marion Brown/we ain't all Yanks
Sigmund:
Three For Shepp is a great (if too short) album. No
Shepp, though, just:
Grahan Moncur III (trombone); Brown (alto saxophone);
Dave Burrell or Stanley Cowell (piano); Sirone (bass);
Bobby Capp or Beaver Harris (drums)
That's OK,though. There's no Trane on Four for Trane
either.
Let's *not* hear about people's US prexy preferences,
BTW. Those of us in other countries get enough
American politics foisted on us anyways, thanks.
Ken Waxman
- --- Sigmund Nonanima <absurdbastard@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Yes, I think an Oulipo list would be great...if it
> doesn't already exist.
> I went to the official OuLiPo site, to see what I
> could see, but it's in French, and I'm a dumb
> monolingual dumbguy.
>
> *****
>
> In reference to the wonderful Marion Brown:
> Shepp had Four for Trane
> Brown had Three for Shepp
> (these are both great albums, and I think Shepp is
> on
> the Brown one?---someone back me up, knock me down
> on
> this one?)
>
>
> SigSalSis
>
>
> PeeDotEssDot:
> If no one protests (no anticipatory pun intended), I
> want to get political for just a line or two
> (honestly). But if anyone wants me to keep my
> greenish
> (definitely no pun intended there) views to myself,
> I
> shall do so...keep them to myself, that is. I'm just
> kind of curious as to who on this list will vote for
> who(m) in November--not that it will necessarily
> effect my insignificant views of all the beautiful
> participants here...
> But I don't want to get kicked off, so let me know.
>
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 17:59:11 +0100 (WET DST)
From: Ricardo Reis <l43384@alfa.ist.utl.pt>
Subject: Ikue Mori: B/Side
can someone give me his opinion on this record? it was edited by
Tzadik under the "film music" tag.
thanx,
Ricardo Reis
"NON SERVIAM"
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 13:59:17 EDT
From: Brennansf@aol.com
Subject: Sax/bass wars
I'd throw in Peter Brotzmann/Bill Laswell, just to get exotic.
jb
- -
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 11:47:19 -0700
From: Martin_Wisckol@link.freedom.com
Subject: chas. lloyd, italo calvino
the kind soul who queried about chas. lloyd and marion brown certainly
got half of what he bargained for. let me try on the other half.
"voice in the night" might well make my 1999 top 10 if i stopped to
peform such an exercise. lloyd's playing is not as distant and ethereal
- -- indeed, not as forgetable -- as i've found it on earlier ECMs. the
rhythm section of abercrombie (in top form), holland and higgins seem
to help lloyd sound more rooted and focused, and bring out the simple
beauty of his lines.
"water" runs the other way -- it's a mist that nearly evaporates into
thin air. i'm not a huge fan of brad mehldau anyway, and he certainly
pushes proceedings into more pastel territory. abercrombie's space is
limited. ...
and since i'm in my holy opinion (that's what it stands for, judging
from what usually follows IMHO), why not offer a contrary view of
calvino? I really enjoy Invisible Cities, having read it three times. I
am entertained and fascinated by his imagination and his creation of
places. "If on a winter's night a traveler..." certainly displays
tremendous chops -- such stylistic range! -- but I came away feeling it
was so much cleverness. The first story in Cosmicomics is my all-time
favorite Calvino. The Marcovaldo stories are charming. Baron in the
Trees is fun. Calvino is great, one of my favorites. Any
recommendations for other Italian writers of such flair and panache?
- -
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 15:10:55 -0400
From: Maurice Rickard <maurice@mac.com>
Subject: Re: chas. lloyd, italo calvino
At 11:47 AM -0700 9/28/00, Martin_Wisckol@link.freedom.com wrote:
>
>I really enjoy Invisible Cities, having read it three times. I
>am entertained and fascinated by his imagination and his creation of
>places.
Ah, another IC fan! The language is what blows me away in that book,
like the one city the residents erected on stilts, after which they
"contemplate with fascination their own absence from the earth." (Or
something like that.)
>The first story in Cosmicomics is my all-time
>favorite Calvino.
Great book. The dinosaur story impresses me a lot, too. That and
the explanation for the Big Bang--"If only I had some room, I'd make
some noodles for you boys."
- --
Maurice Rickard
http://mauricerickard.com/
- -
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 15:32:38 -0400
From: Dan Hewins <dan@synsolutions.com>
Subject: Re: italo calvino
At 3:10 PM -0400 9/28/00, Maurice Rickard wrote:
>At 11:47 AM -0700 9/28/00, Martin_Wisckol@link.freedom.com wrote:
>>
>>I really enjoy Invisible Cities, having read it three times. I
>>am entertained and fascinated by his imagination and his creation of
>>places.
>
>Ah, another IC fan! The language is what blows me away in that
>book, like the one city the residents erected on stilts, after which
>they "contemplate with fascination their own absence from the
>earth." (Or something like that.)
>
>>The first story in Cosmicomics is my all-time
>>favorite Calvino.
>
>Great book. The dinosaur story impresses me a lot, too. That and
>the explanation for the Big Bang--"If only I had some room, I'd make
>some noodles for you boys."
>
I really like Cosmicomics as well... one of my favorite books.
For anyone who's interested, check out this web site about "If On A
Winter's Night A Traveller"
http://people.synsolutions.com/hewins/calvino/
- -
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 15:38:37 -0400
From: Maurice Rickard <maurice@mac.com>
Subject: Re: italo calvino
At 3:32 PM -0400 9/28/00, Dan Hewins wrote:
>
>For anyone who's interested, check out this web site about "If On A
>Winter's Night A Traveller"
>
>http://people.synsolutions.com/hewins/calvino/
Dan--
Very cool! I'll have to spend some quality time with it when I'm not
on deadline. I have a few less-well-structured tangled webs on my
own project pages, so I can tell you put a lot of work into this.
- -Maurice
- --
Maurice Rickard
http://mauricerickard.com/
- -
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 17:05:59 EDT
From: ObviousEye@aol.com
Subject: Drummers
I am interested in the zornlist's opinion on drummers/drumming. if you were
to
compile a list of the best drum/percussion related or percussion dominated
records,
what would they be, and from what genres?
and who are the best drummers, in the region of innovation/technicality?
this is all opinion based of course...
ben o.
- -
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 17:19:31 -0400
From: "&c." <parksplace@hotmail.com>
Subject: Elegy
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Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 00:11:31 +0200
From: Shlomo Weintraub <ba4205@fen.baynet.de>
Subject: Re: Sax/bass wars
and what about Trevo Dunn/Phillip Greenlief?
- -
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 19:11:35 -0400
From: Brian Olewnick <olewnik@idt.net>
Subject: Re: Drummers
ObviousEye@aol.com wrote:
> if you were to compile a list of the best drum/percussion related or percussion > dominated records, what would they be, and from what genres?
Too many to think of but, in jazz, Jerome Cooper's recordings ('Root
Assumption' and 'The Unpredictability of Predictability' would be at the
top of my list.
In other musics, two that spring to mind are SamulNori's 'Record of
Changes' and the fine "Drums of Death" release on Avant.
Brian Olewnick
- -
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 19:51:43 EDT
From: Jeffcalt@aol.com
Subject: Re: Drummers
> ObviousEye@aol.com wrote:
> if you were to compile a list of the best drum/percussion related or
> percussion dominated records, what would they be, and from what genres?
How about some suggestions, since I haven't heard enough to tell you what I
think is "best"?
Art Blakey's percussion-heavy albums: 1957's 'Orgy in Rhythm' and and
1962's 'The African Beat,' both of which are on Blue Note. There's one other
he did which I don't have.
Babatunde Olatunji is said to have been an influence on Coltrane, and a
number of his albums are still available, including the noted 'Drums of
Passions' album from 1959.
In the last decade, Mickey Hart has released a number of drum-driven
albums from his own band and from a number of "world" musicians including
Olatunji and Airto Moreira:
http://www.mhart.com/Pages/theworld/THEWORLDBAK.HTML#Anchor
jeff caltabiano
n.p. traffic: last exit
- -
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Date: 29 Sep 2000 00:41:44 -0000
From: "Tim Keenliside" <timkeen@disinfo.net>
Subject: sax bass wares
Evan Parker Barry Guy?
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 07:58:50 EDT
From: Samerivertwice@aol.com
Subject: Help with a Classical title/recording (No Zorn)
All,
Given the endless well of knowledge on this list, I'm turning to you for
help. Last night I was listening to my local Classical station, and they
played an absolutely gorgeous, sweeping, ambitious piece I'd never heard
before. When it ended the announcer said the name of the composer, the guest
violinist, the orchestra, and the conductor. The orchestra was the Chicago
Symphony Orchestra. The conductor was James Paul. But I could not for the
life of me understand or recognize the composer's name. Phonetically, it's
spelled "Routabon." No such composer exists at any of the major online CD
outlets. The guest violinist was phonetically named "Omar Olivera" ("Elmar
Aloe Vera?"). Again, multiple searches have yielded no results. Dead ends
at every turn. The violin featured prominently and stunningly, sounding very
much like Mark Feldman at times. I believe the announcer said something
about either the violinist or the composer gaining formidable fame in
Finland, Norway and Sweden. (I don't know which because the damn phone rang
just as I was writing down all this information.) The composition was from
1977.
That's all I know.
Does this sound familiar to any of you?
Many thanks,
Tom DeMarchi
________________________________________________
The dignity of art appears to the greatest advantage
perhaps in music, because that art contains no material
to be deducted. It is wholly form and intrinsic value,
and it elevates and ennobles everything which it expresses.
--Johann Wolfgang Von Goethe
- -
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 20:33:08 -0400
From: Joseph Zitt <jzitt@metatronpress.com>
Subject: Re: Help with a Classical title/recording (No Zorn)
Could it be Einojuhani Rautavaara's 1977 VIolin COncerto recorded by
Elmar Oliveira?
On Thu, Sep 28, 2000 at 07:58:50AM -0400, Samerivertwice@aol.com wrote:
> All,
>
> Given the endless well of knowledge on this list, I'm turning to you for
> help. Last night I was listening to my local Classical station, and they
> played an absolutely gorgeous, sweeping, ambitious piece I'd never heard
> before. When it ended the announcer said the name of the composer, the guest
> violinist, the orchestra, and the conductor. The orchestra was the Chicago
> Symphony Orchestra. The conductor was James Paul. But I could not for the
> life of me understand or recognize the composer's name. Phonetically, it's
> spelled "Routabon." No such composer exists at any of the major online CD
> outlets. The guest violinist was phonetically named "Omar Olivera" ("Elmar
> Aloe Vera?"). Again, multiple searches have yielded no results. Dead ends
> at every turn. The violin featured prominently and stunningly, sounding very
> much like Mark Feldman at times. I believe the announcer said something
> about either the violinist or the composer gaining formidable fame in
> Finland, Norway and Sweden. (I don't know which because the damn phone rang
> just as I was writing down all this information.) The composition was from
> 1977.
>
> That's all I know.
>
> Does this sound familiar to any of you?
>
> Many thanks,
> Tom DeMarchi
>
> ________________________________________________
> The dignity of art appears to the greatest advantage
> perhaps in music, because that art contains no material
> to be deducted. It is wholly form and intrinsic value,
> and it elevates and ennobles everything which it expresses.
>
> --Johann Wolfgang Von Goethe
>
>
>
>
>
> -
- --
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Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 22:16:09 -0500
From: Steve Smith <ssmith36@sprynet.com>
Subject: Re: Help with a Classical title/recording (No Zorn)
Tom:
The piece you heard had to have been the Violin Concerto of contemporary Finnish
composer Einojuhani Rautavaara (b. 1928). There is one available recording on
the Ondine label, catalog number 881-2. The disc is titled 'Angels and
Visitations' and also includes the titular piece and a third work, 'Isle of
Bliss.' It's a great performance by the Helsinki Philharmonic under the
direction of Leif Segerstam, and featuring the same very fine violin soloist you
heard, Elmar Oliveira. The disc was released in 1997, and Amazon's certainly
got it.
And you're a lucky man if your local radio station aired it, given the state of
most classical radio these days, but then I'm guessing that what you heard was a
broadcast concert by the Chicago Symphony, since they haven't recorded the piece
commercially.
Other recommended works by Rautavaara if you liked this are the Symphony No. 7
"Angel of Light," the Double Bass Concerto "Angel of Dusk" (all of these "angel"
titles bespeak a latent Brucknerian mysticism coming out in the composer's
recent music), and 'Cantus Arcticus,' a 1972 piece for orchestra and taped
birdsong that may be his best-known work. This last piece is available on a
disc with the Symphonies No. 4 and 5 on Ondine (which has presented a great
amount of the composer's works in all genres), with 'Angel of Light' on a more
recent Bis label recording, or with the Symphony No. 3 and the Piano Concerto
No. 1 at a super-budget price on Naxos. And a personal favorite of mine is the
truly strange 1982 piece for male chorus, soloists and tape 'The Myth of Sampo,'
a setting of a heroic folktale from the Finnish national saga, the Kalevala.
Imagine Vikings singing to a backing tape by early Subotnik, maybe...
Steve Smith
ssmith36@sprynet.com
NP - Samuel Barber, Symphony No. 1, Royal Scottish National Orch. / Marin Alsop
(Naxos)
Samerivertwice@aol.com wrote:
> Last night I was listening to my local Classical station, and they
> played an absolutely gorgeous, sweeping, ambitious piece I'd never heard
> before. When it ended the announcer said the name of the composer, the guest
> violinist, the orchestra, and the conductor. The orchestra was the Chicago
> Symphony Orchestra. The conductor was James Paul. But I could not for the
> life of me understand or recognize the composer's name. Phonetically, it's
> spelled "Routabon." No such composer exists at any of the major online CD
> outlets. The guest violinist was phonetically named "Omar Olivera" ("Elmar
> Aloe Vera?"). Again, multiple searches have yielded no results. Dead ends
> at every turn. The violin featured prominently and stunningly, sounding very
> much like Mark Feldman at times. I believe the announcer said something
> about either the violinist or the composer gaining formidable fame in
> Finland, Norway and Sweden. (I don't know which because the damn phone rang
> just as I was writing down all this information.) The composition was from
> 1977.
- -
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