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From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest)
To: zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Zorn List Digest V3 #53
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Zorn List Digest Thursday, September 14 2000 Volume 03 : Number 053
In this issue:
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Buckethead Revealed?
More TR Give-Aways
re: Sclavis (double trio)
Review Request: Derek Bailey and Hans Bennink
word of warning/threadgill, typical knit
Re: word of warning/threadgill, typical knit
RRR Records
Stravinsky's Ebony Concerto
Re: Stravinsky's Ebony Concerto
Re: Buckethead Revealed?
Re: Buckethead Revealed?
Re: Zorn List Digest V3 #51
Re: Buckethead Revealed?
Re: Zorn List Digest V3 #51
Re: Brotzmann
Charlemagne Palestine
Odp: Louis Sclavis
Kusturica again
suzie ibarra (no direct zorn content)
Tribute to Masayuki Takayanagi?
yo miles live show?
Re: Tribute to Masayuki Takayanagi?
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Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 02:55:34 -0300
From: "Sh" <malleable@post.com>
Subject: Buckethead Revealed?
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Anyone know Buckethead's real name? Any projects under this =
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Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 03:09:49 -0300
From: "Sh" <malleable@post.com>
Subject: More TR Give-Aways
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I recently acquired a few Tim Reynolds/TR3 shows on cassette. After I =
transfer them to CD, I am just going to give them away. Right now, I've =
got a 9.11.96 acoustic show on two cassettes. It was recorded from the =
soundboard and sounds excellent. Some of the songs are "Chatterbox," =
"Mercy Street," "You Are My Sanity," "Stream->Kashmir," "Loose =
Interpretation," and "Samantabhadra." Also, I've got a TR3 show from =
6.23.99 on two tapes. The recording for this one was done with a =
regular tape recorder, though, the sound quality is pretty decent. All =
the instruments are documented, though the bass is not very thick, and =
the vocals are a little quiet. Setlist is as follows:
Sell You Something
On the Edge
Learn To Live
Donkey Bong
Just One Fix**
Backdoor
They're Coming Soon
Johnny's Song
Where Is the Fire?
Big Dick Ego Trip
I Give Up
Skeleton Walls
Put the Gas Mask On
Indoctrinate
Astral Projection
Rat Poison
** Ministry tune
Anyone who can give me a recommendation on a comprehensive book on Greek =
Mythology, or can give me some info on A Perfect Circle guitarist Troy =
Van Leeuwen has got first dibs. More to come this week as well.
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I recently acquired a few Tim Reynolds/TR3 shows on=20
cassette. After I transfer them to CD, I am just going to give =
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away. Right now, I've got a 9.11.96 acoustic show on two=20
cassettes. It was recorded from the soundboard and=20
sounds excellent. Some of the songs are "Chatterbox," "Mercy =
Street,"=20
"You Are My Sanity," "Stream->Kashmir," "Loose Interpretation," and=20
"Samantabhadra." Also, I've got a TR3 show from 6.23.99 on two=20
tapes. The recording for this one was done with a regular tape =
recorder,=20
though, the sound quality is pretty decent. All the instruments =
are=20
documented, though the bass is not very thick, and the vocals are a =
little=20
quiet. Setlist is as follows:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Sell You Something</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>On the Edge</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Learn To Live</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Donkey Bong</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Just One Fix**</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Backdoor</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>They're Coming Soon</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Johnny's Song</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Where Is the Fire?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Big Dick Ego Trip</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I Give Up</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Skeleton Walls</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Put the Gas Mask On</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Indoctrinate</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Astral Projection</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Rat Poison</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2> ** Ministry tune</FONT></DIV>
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comprehensive=20
book on Greek Mythology, or can give me some info on A Perfect Circle =
guitarist=20
Troy Van Leeuwen has got first dibs. More to come this week as=20
well.</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 09:12:47 -0500 (CDT)
From: Whit Schonbein <whit@twinearth.wustl.edu>
Subject: re: Sclavis (double trio)
From: Reaboi@aol.com wrote:
Re: Louis Sclavis, he is on a fantastic record that's out of print by the
'Double Trio" (the Trio of Clarinets & Arcado String Trio together).
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I second the recommendation. Really great album. My first introduction
to Sclavis, and still one of my favorites, of both Sclavis and the Arcado
Trio. (my other exposure to Sclavis has been with his acoustic quartet,
which grew on me, and with some live trio performances with fred frith and
j.-p. drouet, which are apparently freely improvised, but maybe they are
composed? lot's of humour in the music...)
whit
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Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 12:36:28 -0400
From: David Keffer <keffer@planetc.com>
Subject: Review Request: Derek Bailey and Hans Bennink
Hello folks on the Zorn list,
Can some one post a review of
Derek Bailey and Hans Bennink:
Post improvisation 1: when we're smiling, Incus CD 34. (1999)
Post improvisation 2: air mail special, Incus CD 35. (1999)
Bailey is credited with guitar and voice on both of these.
Does Bailey do his spoken word thing over guitar on these cds?
Thanks.
David K.
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Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 13:24:30 -0500
From: kurt_gottschalk@scni.com
Subject: word of warning/threadgill, typical knit
anyone planning to go to see threadgill set at the knit friday night. (in new
york, i guess i have to start saying that now...)
newspaper ads and flyers list the friday night set at 8 pm. the web and knotes
say 9. but i bought an advance ticket and it said 11. of course, this week's box
office person had no info to offer, but after asking around i was able to
ascertain (i guess) that the set is at 9. hope henry knows...
by the way, the line-up for the new band is on the web. gonna be stellar.
(zorn content for this message can be achieved via george lewis.)
kg
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Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 13:36:28 -0400
From: Peter Gannushkin <shkin@shkin.com>
Subject: Re: word of warning/threadgill, typical knit
Hello kurt,
Tuesday, September 12, 2000, you wrote to me:
ksc> newspaper ads and flyers list the friday night set at 8 pm. the web and knotes
ksc> say 9. but i bought an advance ticket and it said 11.
I'm pretty sure that you just bought the ticket for the second set
which suppose to start at 11.
They almost always have two sets mostly at 9 and 11.
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Best regards,
Peter Gannushkin
e-mail: shkin@shkin.com
URL: http://www.shkin.com/downtown/
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Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 17:00:41 CDT
From: "Kristopher S. Handley" <thesubtlebody@hotmail.com>
Subject: RRR Records
Is there not an RRR Records, distributors of difficult-to-find (or otherwise
listen to) music? If so, what is its website? I've tried
http://www.brainwashed.com/rrr and also http://www.rrrecords.com ,
and neither address seems to work. Thanks!
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Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 15:09:53 -0700
From: Greg Mills <gregm@tonic360.com>
Subject: Stravinsky's Ebony Concerto
I'm in the market for a copy of Stravinsky's Ebony Concerto as done by Woody
Herman, and I've only found a live version. Is there a studio version out
there?
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Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 15:19:03 -0700
From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <proussel@ichips.intel.com>
Subject: Re: Stravinsky's Ebony Concerto
On Tue, 12 Sep 2000 15:09:53 -0700 Greg Mills wrote:
>
> I'm in the market for a copy of Stravinsky's Ebony Concerto as done by Woody
> Herman, and I've only found a live version. Is there a studio version out
> there?
Isn't the Stravinski version from the anniversary box by Woody Herman?
Patrice (who will try to verify at home).
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Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 19:00:20 -0400
From: Rich Williams <punkjazz@snet.net>
Subject: Re: Buckethead Revealed?
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>Anyone know Buckethead's real name? Any projects under this "pseudonym?"
On Henry Kaisers disc "Hope You Like Our New Direction" he's credited
as Brian Carroll, AFAIK, other than that, he's always been buckethead
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<excerpt><smaller>Anyone know Buckethead's real name? Any projects
under this "pseudonym?"
</smaller></excerpt><smaller>
</smaller>On Henry Kaisers disc "Hope You Like Our New Direction" he's
credited as Brian Carroll, AFAIK, other than that, he's always been
buckethead
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Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 23:11:24 EDT
From: Nudeants@aol.com
Subject: Re: Buckethead Revealed?
In a message dated 9/12/00 2:43:42 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
malleable@post.com writes:
<< Anyone know Buckethead's real name? Any projects under this "pseudonym?"
>>
All I know is that his first name is Byron (pretty sure). That's based on
memory from hearing from someone who knows, or at least knew, him.
- -matt
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Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 22:22:00 EDT
From: ObviousEye@aol.com
Subject: Re: Zorn List Digest V3 #51
In a message dated 9/10/00 4:21:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com writes:
<< question for all yooze zornlisters:given the plethora of amazing rereleases
that have shown up in the last few years-brotzmann's "nipples" >>
I consider myself an open minded music-listener, and i have diverse tastes,
ideas, etc., but for some reason Brotzmann just confuses me. I don't like
the incessant screeching...it just seems relentless and more annoying than
creative. From a purely musical standpoint, it has no regard for time,
tonality, or melody (even harmony, really). Not that this is always a bad
thing, but with Brotzmann it just seems like self-indulgence in lieu of
musical value. Now, on the other hand, i do recognize its importance as an
influence to modern music.
maybe one of the Zornlist gurus could correct me if i am vastly misinformed...
ben
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Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 23:18:58 -0400
From: "Peter Risser" <risser@cinci.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Buckethead Revealed?
We've done this before. I'm pretty sure that Brian Carroll mentioned before
is correct, but you can search the archives. Or, maybe just try a web
search with google.com or one of the many other handy search engines.
Peter
> > << Anyone know Buckethead's real name? Any projects under this
> "pseudonym?"
> > >>
> >
> >
> > All I know is that his first name is Byron (pretty sure). That's based
on
> > memory from hearing from someone who knows, or at least knew, him.
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Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 22:22:00 EDT
From: ObviousEye@aol.com
Subject: Re: Zorn List Digest V3 #51
In a message dated 9/10/00 4:21:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com writes:
<< question for all yooze zornlisters:given the plethora of amazing rereleases
that have shown up in the last few years-brotzmann's "nipples" >>
I consider myself an open minded music-listener, and i have diverse tastes,
ideas, etc., but for some reason Brotzmann just confuses me. I don't like
the incessant screeching...it just seems relentless and more annoying than
creative. From a purely musical standpoint, it has no regard for time,
tonality, or melody (even harmony, really). Not that this is always a bad
thing, but with Brotzmann it just seems like self-indulgence in lieu of
musical value. Now, on the other hand, i do recognize its importance as an
influence to modern music.
maybe one of the Zornlist gurus could correct me if i am vastly misinformed...
ben
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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 00:57:51 -0400
From: "Caleb T. Deupree" <cdeupree@erinet.com>
Subject: Re: Brotzmann
At 10:22 PM 9/12/00 EDT, ObviousEye@aol.com wrote:
>
>I consider myself an open minded music-listener, and i have diverse tastes,
>ideas, etc., but for some reason Brotzmann just confuses me.
I have to be in the right frame of mind for Brotzmann, but you might try
his more recent work with the Die like a Dog quartet. PB has mellowed
considerably in recent years, having much more of a dynamic range than on
his classic recordings. This quartet also includes Toshinori Kondo on
trumpet and electronics, making this group one of the few PB groups which
includes a significant electronic element.
If you like larger ensemble recordings, the 3cd set of the Chicago
Octet/Tentet is great (haven't picked up the new one yet).
If you like metal, try Last Exit.
- --
Caleb Deupree
cdeupree@erinet.com
Work like you don't need the money. Love like you've never been hurt. Dance
like nobody's watching.
- -- Satchel Paige
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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 02:29:33 EDT
From: JonAbbey2@aol.com
Subject: Charlemagne Palestine
anyone in NYC with nothing to do tomorrow evening should go check out the
Charlemagne Palestine show at the Sonnabend (sp?) gallery on 536 W. 22nd St.,
starting around 8:30. admission is free. I'd suggest getting there early
though, since at tonight's performance, he played in a small, completely
jammed room, and late arrivals (including myself) had to sit in the adjacent
room, unable to see him play or get the full effect of his overtones. it was
still very good, though.
Jon
www.erstwhilerecords.com
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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 12:35:21 +0200
From: "Marcin Gokieli" <marcin.gokieli@mospan.pl>
Subject: Odp: Louis Sclavis
Louis Sclavis is supposed to come to Warsaw to perform 'improvised
orchestral music' with Polish Radio Orchestra. Maybe some of you know what
it mighbe like?
Marcin Gokieli
marcin.gokieli@mospan.pl marcingokieli@go2.pl
Generally speaking, if a philosopher offers to 'dissolve' the problem you
are working on, tell him to go climb a tree - Jerry Fodor
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From: Ken Waxman <mingusaum@yahoo.ca>
To: Joseph Zitt <jzitt@metatronpress.com>; <zorn-list@lists.xmission.com>
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 7:02 PM
Subject: Re: Louis Sclavis
> Joe (et al):
>
> I saw Louis with a larger group do his Violence de
> Rameau project (remember when musicians played music,
> instead of "doing projects"?) which was sorta standard
> EuroJazz, a little classical and a bit jazzy. I also
> saw him duet with Ernst Reijseger, which was great.
>
> Therefore the recommended CD is:
> Et On Ne Parle Pas Du Temps (FMP)
>
> Ken Waxman
>
>
>
> --- Joseph Zitt <jzitt@metatronpress.com> wrote:
> > I just saw the movie "Kadosh", with a very good
> > score by Louis Sclavis,
>
> > I vaguely recall his name coming up here. Any
> > recommendations for his
> > recordings?
>
>
>
>
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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 20:23:57 +0200
From: "Jerzy Matysiakiewicz" <jerzym@dom.zabrze.pl>
Subject: Kusturica again
Today I've just bought new released CD Emir Kusturica & The No Smoking
Orchestra "Unza Unza Time" /Cabina rec./
Emir Kusturica plays guitar.
Material contains traditionals in "speed brass style", some songs from BCWC.
Songs are sung, alas, in accented English, what IMHO is a little bit out of
style.
But my overall rating is "good and recommended"
Jerzy
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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 14:32:49 MDT
From: "jacob melville" <human_temper@hotmail.com>
Subject: suzie ibarra (no direct zorn content)
hello,
is there a website for Suzie Ibarra's label????
If anyone could send me in the right direction i'd appreciate it.
jm
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Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 00:57:07 -0500 (CDT)
From: Whit Schonbein <whit@twinearth.wustl.edu>
Subject: Tribute to Masayuki Takayanagi?
Has anybody heard the following and care to provide a description/review?
with respect to purchasing the disc, I found the personel seductive, the
false persona even more so, but the motto of the record label made me
abstain. So I am left uncertain of what I would get should i purchase the
disc. The disc is:
Tribute to Masayuki Takayanagi
CD (Grob Musik)
w/ Weasel Walter, Fred Lonberg-Holm and Jim O'Rourke
thanks,
whit
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Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 01:02:42 -0500 (CDT)
From: Whit Schonbein <whit@twinearth.wustl.edu>
Subject: yo miles live show?
sorry for the nz content; a while back someone posted that they had a live
yo! miles show on cdr for trade. i'm listening to previte's 'the horse'
at the moment, and i realized i never heard back from this individual.
if someone out there has this show (the yo! miles show) on cdr and wants
to trade, let me know. thanks,
whit
http://artsci.wustl.edu/~wwschonb/trades.html
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Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 02:14:25 EDT
From: JonAbbey2@aol.com
Subject: Re: Tribute to Masayuki Takayanagi?
In a message dated 9/14/00 2:03:21 AM, whit@twinearth.wustl.edu writes:
<< I found the personel seductive, the
false persona even more so, but the motto of the record label made me
abstain. >>
if you're referring to where it says "infernal improvised music-play loud and
die", that's specific to this project, it's not a Grob motto.
as for the disc, it's actually pretty straightforward. the musicians go nuts
for 70-plus minutes in a tribute to Masayuki Takayanagi, the brilliant
Japanese guitarist. if you've already got all of the essential Takayanagi CDs
currently available (I think the current list would be Call In Question, Free
Form Suite, Live At Moers Festival, and Live Independence) and this sounds
compelling to you, then give it a shot.
Jon
www.erstwhilerecords.com
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