>the one thing that i do worry about is that young people growing up
today who will
>never really know anything than online cd shopping wont see the point
of going to a
>cd shop anymore. which might put those shops out of business. and will
leave it open
>to the people in charge at amzon.com and other online shops to just
raise the prices
>any which way they please... (without doubt managing to come up with a
"reasonable
>explanation".)
This is an interesting point of view... However, I think patRice is
forgetting something essentiel: most of the young people don't have
credit cards! Consequently, it's very hard for them to order from
online stores. Of course, they can borrow a friend's card or ask their
parents to help them... but would you lend your credit card to your
friend who is buying records compulsively? If I had a credit card, I am
not sure I would...
I think it is important nuance... but I could be wrong since I never
order from online stores!
Mathieu
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Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 17:15:54 -0700
From: Martin_Wisckol@link.freedom.com
Subject: Re: CD listening in stores
patRice--
i was living in zurich in 1992. is my memory playing tricks on me? the
price of CDs seems very etched in my mind, along with not buying hardly
any (my room and board were paid for, otherwise i was living relatively
cheap. i did see naked city for the only time in my life, at the rote
fabrik. and saw some great shows at willisau -- steve lacy, julius
hemphill, don pullen....
gda@datacomm.ch writes:
>From: patRice <gda@datacomm.ch>
>Subject: Re: CD listening in stores
>Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2000 16:38:07 +0200
>Martin_Wisckol@link.freedom.com wrote:
>> when i living in switzerland, CDs in the stores were unsealed and it
>> was standard practice to listen to your heart's content. downside:
>base
>> price for most CDs was $30.
>>
>> -
>you can still listen to any cd they have in stock at all record/cd shops
>in switzerland.
>but when were you living there, martin? $30??? i can't remember those
>times! even diw imports are "only" $23.-. non-import cds you usually pay
>about $18.- for.
>patRice
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Date: Sat Jul 01 21:26:34 2000
From: Dgasque@aol.com
Subject: Re: On-line CD stores again
In a message dated Sat, 1 Jul 2000 8:12:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "Mathieu Belanger" <belanmat@MAGELLAN.UMontreal.CA> writes:
<< Hello,
>the one thing that i do worry about is that young people growing up
today who will
>never really know anything than online cd shopping wont see the point
of going to a
>cd shop anymore. which might put those shops out of business. and will
leave it open
>to the people in charge at amzon.com and other online shops to just
raise the prices
>any which way they please... (without doubt managing to come up with a
"reasonable
>explanation".)
This is an interesting point of view... However, I think patRice is
forgetting something essentiel: most of the young people don't have
credit cards! Consequently, it's very hard for them to order from
online stores. Of course, they can borrow a friend's card or ask their
parents to help them... but would you lend your credit card to your
friend who is buying records compulsively? If I had a credit card, I am
not sure I would...
I think it is important nuance... but I could be wrong since I never
order from online stores!
>>
I've heard the above arguement many times before- that the major retailers and online shops were going to ruin the distribution of smaller labels and less-well-known artists and that prices were going to go through the roof when these mom'n'pops were shut down by the "big guys", but I've seen little evidence of this happening.
I can't help but think that the spirit of free enterprise will always keep the distributor on his/her toes- that there will *always* be someone looking for a niche to fill, either with lower prices or with product that no one else carries, be it web-based or catalog-based.
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=dg=
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Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 23:21:08 -0400
From: "Nirav Soni" <nirav@ink19.com>
Subject: Re: On-line CD stores again
> This is an interesting point of view... However, I think patRice is
> forgetting something essentiel: most of the young people don't have
> credit cards! Consequently, it's very hard for them to order from
> online stores. Of course, they can borrow a friend's card or ask their
> parents to help them... but would you lend your credit card to your
> friend who is buying records compulsively? If I had a credit card, I am
> not sure I would...
I'm too young to have a credit card, but most, if not all of the online stores
I shop at (Anomalous, Riouxs, Manifold) will let you buy things with a money
order. The one time I had to order with a credit card (that *amazing* Jazz
Record Mart HatArt sale), my friend let me use his. When there's a will there's
a way.
Cheers,
Nirav
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OnNow- Kali Fasteau & Rafeal Garrett- Memoirs of a Dream
"Of nought. To the source. To the teacher. To the temple. To him I brought.
This emptied heart. These emptied hands. This mind ignoring. This body
homeless. To love him my little reviled. My little rejected to have him. My
little to learn him forgot. Abandoned my little to find him." - Samuel Beckett,
Watt
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Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 23:54:03 -0400
From: Joseph Zitt <jzitt@metatronpress.com>
Subject: Re: Downtown Music Gallery
On Sat, Jul 01, 2000 at 06:20:50PM -0400, Peter Gannushkin wrote:
> Again, if we are talking about a music store we have to compare it
> with other stores. Isn't simple?
Isn't simple.
DGM and Bruce support the scene in many ways, such as providing
publicity, presenting in-stores (disclaimer: I'm proud to have played
there), and serving as a focal point for the community.
I have occasionally seen marginally better prices elsewhere on
occasion, and their stock is not as large as some other places --
but when I go on my CD binges in NYC, I go there first and get what I
can then.
It's only simple if all you care about is money. I care about the music.
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|> ~The only thing that is not art is inattention~ --- Marcel Duchamp <|
