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From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest)
To: zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Zorn List Digest V2 #919
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Zorn List Digest Wednesday, May 3 2000 Volume 02 : Number 919
In this issue:
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Odp: Odp: zorn / frith / laswell / lombardo - grrrrrrr....
Odp: dave douglas sextet live review
Art Pepper
Perowsky (was: dave douglas sextet live review)
Lincoln Center Festival Schedule
maydiscs
WSJD 2000
R: art pepper
Re: maydiscs
Re: art pepper
Re: Art Pepper
Re: Joey Baron (was: Baron/Ribot/Medeski)
Re: COBRA...
Re: dave douglas sextet live review
Re: The Bear Comes Home
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Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 17:31:59 +0200
From: "Marcin Gokieli" <marcing@mospan.pl>
Subject: Odp: Odp: zorn / frith / laswell / lombardo - grrrrrrr....
> > Hey, they were supposed to play at the Warsaw Summer Jazz Days
festival...
> > :-(((
> it's not listed (yet?) on the saudades webpage.
> there still is hope, i guess!?!?
No. The program of the festival is ready. we have Massacre 'instead'.
Not bad, but i wanted to see JZ... :-(
Marcin Gokieli
marcing@mospan.pl
<<RAKEWELL
Where is my Venus? Why have you stolen her while
I slept? Madmen! Where have you hidden her?
MADMEN
Venus? Stolen? Hidden? Where?
Madman! No one has been here.>>
Auden & Kallman, Stravinsky's "The Rake's Progress"
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Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 17:40:48 +0200
From: "Marcin Gokieli" <marcing@mospan.pl>
Subject: Odp: dave douglas sextet live review
> should point out that the one CD I have by them just happens to be
> Stargazer, maybe I should check out another one. And secondly, I wasn't
there are two other ones. I would recommand 'in our lifetime', which i
mentioned in the previous post.
Marcin Gokieli
marcing@mospan.pl
<<RAKEWELL
Where is my Venus? Why have you stolen her while
I slept? Madmen! Where have you hidden her?
MADMEN
Venus? Stolen? Hidden? Where?
Madman! No one has been here.>>
Auden & Kallman, Stravinsky's "The Rake's Progress"
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Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 09:48:53 -0700
From: Martin_Wisckol@link.freedom.com
Subject: Art Pepper
Ah, Art Pepper! I'm partial to his work in the late '70s-early '80s
with George Cables, although I can't remember names of the albums. But
you've inspired me to fish them out when I get home....
Martin
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Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 12:53:41 -0400
From: Peter Gannushkin <shkin@shkin.com>
Subject: Perowsky (was: dave douglas sextet live review)
Hello patRice,
Wednesday, May 03, 2000, you wrote to me:
>> of course joey is a big-time exception.
>> if you like perowsky perowsky though, imho, you should maybe have your
>> ears examined (sorry for having to say this), but he was god-fucking
p> sorry, sorry, sorry marcin! i didn't mean to be this rude. but really -
p> he was so bad! it can't be put into words! i was furious about the whole
p> thing last night!
I saw many drummers in last four months. Joey Baron, Billy Martin, Jim
Black, Peter Madsen, Mike Sarin, Roberto Rodrigues, Susie Ibarra,
Kenny Wollesen were among them. And I can say that Ben Perowsky was
the most uninteresting. He was not bad really but he was very certain
and kind of boring. It seems to me that he is good as rhythm
supporting person but not as a creative musician.
- --
Best regards,
Peter Gannushkin
e-mail: shkin@shkin.com
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Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 13:26:41 -0500
From: kurt_gottschalk@scni.com
Subject: Lincoln Center Festival Schedule
(ndy) (ATTN: Entertainment editors)
Lincoln Center Festival Scheduled (New York)
By Justin Davidson
(c) 2000, Newsday
NEW YORK - Lincoln Center Festival 2000, a three-week performing arts
extravaganza, will open July 11 with 29 productions, 17 of them local or world
premieres.
The centerpiece of this year's festival is the U.S. premiere of "Writing to
Vermeer," a new opera by the Dutch composer Louis Andriessen and the Welsh-born
writer-director Peter Greenaway, whose films include "The Cook, The Thief, His
Wife and Her Lover." The opera is set in Holland in 1672, when the Dutch Golden
Age lurched to an end in a year of financial and military disaster. Its
protagonist is the painter Johannes Vermeer, whose serene and intimate genre
scenes contrast with the country's turbulence.
As a run-up to the opera, Lincoln Center will host a pre-festival retrospective
of Greenaway's films, beginning with a screening of "8 Women" on July 5 and
ending on July 12 with "The Draughtsman's Contract."
The theater and dance portions of the festival focus on Russia, particularly
those artists and institutions that survived the implosion of the Soviet Union.
The Bolshoi Ballet, which has had a rough decade since it saw its state support
dry up and which has not visited New York City in 10 years, returns for a seven-
night stint at the New York State Theater, with lead dancer Nina Ananiashvili.
The festival also will bring in the Maly Drama's controversial 1985 staging of
"Brothers and Sisters," based on Fyodor Abromov's trilogy of novels. The six-
hour production, in Russian with English supertitles, is spread over two
evenings at the John Jay College Theater. Among the hottest - or at least rarest
- - tickets in the festival will be for Piotr Fomenko's staging of Alexander
Ostrovksy's "Innocent as Charged," which will be performed in the tiny, 350-seat
Pope Auditorium at Fordham University.
Among the rest of the panoply of offerings is a troupe of French aerialists and
musicians, Les Colporteurs, performing a musical-circus production called
"Filao"; a festival-within-a-festival of music by the late French composer
Olivier Messiaen; a multi-performance tribute to the musical polymath Meredith
Monk; a survey of electronic music; and appearances by the dance companies of
Bill T. Jones, Alvin Ailey and Mathilde Monnier.
Distributed by the Los Angeles Times-Washington Post News Service
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Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 13:45:33 -0500
From: kurt_gottschalk@scni.com
Subject: maydiscs
haphazardly culled from the knight-ridder newswire (and does anyone know the
Jacques Loussier Trio, who look to be doing a jazz goldberg variations just as
uri caine works his up?):
5/2
The three disc set "Ohm: The Early Gurus of Electronic Music 1948-1980"
(Ellipsis Arts) gathers samples of Varese, Cage, Stockhausen and Reich, plus
mainstream breakthroughs like Louise and Bebe Barron's theme music from
"Forbidden Planet."
5/9
Bad Religion explore "The New America" (Atlantic), polished by producer Todd
Rundgren.
Super picker Allison Brown scopes out "Fair Weather" (Compass).
Jazz Mandolin Project, fronted by Jamie Masefield, makes their Blue Note debut
with "Xenoblast."
David Benoit celebrates our favorite TV jazz themes on "Here's to You, Charlie
Brown: 50 Great Years!" (GRP). Cool trombonist Rosell Rudd paints "Broad
Strokes" (Knitting Factory Works).
King Crimson, still fronted by Robert Fripp and Adrian Belew, score "The
ConstruKction of Light" (Virgin).
The glory that was Devo is anthologized on the two-disc "Pioneers Who Got
Scalped" (Warner Archives/Rhino).
Nick Cave shares spoken word and musical notions on "The Secret Life of a Love
Song" (Mute).
5/16
Sonic Youth digs into bohemian poetry and free music on its most adventurous
"NYC Ghosts & Flowers" (Geffen).
5/23
The very best British retro-pop rock band (yet still their own guys) remains
XTC, in top form on "Wasp Star (Apple Venus Volume 2). Check out "Stupidly
Happy," "I'm The Man Who Murdered Love," "Standing in For Joe" and "Church of
Women." Amen!
"The Charlie Watts/Jim Keltner Project" (Cyber Octave/Higher Octave Music) pay
tribute to percussionists Shelly Mann, Kenny Clark, Tony Williams, Max Roach and
Elvin Jones in a totally modern and hip fashion - with techno, electronic and
world beat accents.
David S. Ware has "Surrendered" (Columbia).
"The Remains of Tom Lehrer" (Warner Archives/Rhino) gathers the collective
musical mockery of sidelining math professor Lehrer in a three-CD box set, with
such classics as "Poisoning Pigeons in the Park" and "Masochistic Tango". Along
with his complete recorded output are rare contributions to The Electric Company
and Dr. Demento radio show and three new tracks.
5/30
Billy Bragg and Wilco offer a second helping of Woody Guthrie poems set to new
tunes, "Mermaid Avenue Volume 2" (Elektra).
Freddy Cole rides "Merry-Go-Round" while the Jacques Loussier Trio do their
classical/jazz numbers on Bach's "Goldberg Variations" (both Telarc Jazz).
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Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 20:26:11 +0200
From: "Artur Nowak" <arno@emd.pl>
Subject: WSJD 2000
The program of Warsaw Summer Jazz Days is available at:
http://www.emd.pl/emd/pl4/festivals/w/wsjd/2000/program.htm
I'm not sure about who else will perform on the last day, but since
Metheny will play, I won't be there...
__________________________________________________________________
Artur Nowak [arno AT emd.pl]
www.emd.pl - polish music magazine, mp3 and more
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Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 19:14:06 +0200
From: "Francesco Martinelli" <fmartinelli@tin.it>
Subject: R: art pepper
> art pepper plus eleven, contemporary
> art pepper and the (miles davis) rhythm section - is this still
> available?
I don't know about the availability but these two are THE classic albums of
early Pepper. As you maybe realize, his style changed considerably in the
last years, and especially Coltrane had a very strong effect on him - to the
point of bringing him to mention JC in a famous live recording.
> any opinions?
I enjoyed very much both album on Mole - one is under Milcho Leviev's name -
also because I had the luck to hear that group in concert. For sickening
beauty, try Blues in the Night on Fantasy where he plays clarinet; the "last
sessions" have been variously collected but the best bet for me is the 4 cd
box Live at Village Vanguard. As for Chet Baker, the tanatophilia affecting
the jazz collectors produced a market for "last" recordings - I'm sure a
collection of agony gasps from famous jazzpersons would be hugely
successful. A musician definitely worth investigating, much broader than the
"west coast cool image" associated with him.
Francesco
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Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 14:18:54 -0700
From: improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel)
Subject: Re: maydiscs
At 1:45 PM 5/3/00, kurt_gottschalk@scni.com wrote:
>haphazardly culled from the knight-ridder newswire (and does anyone know the
>Jacques Loussier Trio, who look to be doing a jazz goldberg variations just as
>uri caine works his up?):
>
>5/2
>The three disc set "Ohm: The Early Gurus of Electronic Music 1948-1980"
>(Ellipsis Arts) gathers samples of Varese, Cage, Stockhausen and Reich, plus
>mainstream breakthroughs like Louise and Bebe Barron's theme music from
>"Forbidden Planet."
I've been meaning to rave (no pun intended) about this collection, it's
really terrific. Not only is it a great historical reference, but each disc
really stands up as a musical collection.I have some of the pieces here,
some I have read about forever and never heard, and some are completely new
to me. Just a few standout tracks: Messian's "Oraison" for Ondes Martenot
ensemble, which sounds eerily like Aphex Twin; a Paul Lansky piece for
computer-generated voice that is just absolutely beautiful, Reich's
"Pendulum Music" as perfromed by Sonic Youth, surprisingly musical for such
a conceptual piece, a previously unreleased MEV track that rages, and many
more. I've been listening to at least one disc of this every day for the
last week (my record store got it last Tuesday).
Other recent goodies (I finshed a job last week and celebrated by buying
too many CD's)
Graham Haynes: BPM (knitting Factory): probably the best of Haynes solo,
electronic-oriented discs. The openning piece combines a Wagner sample
combined with a heavy Samba beat and a miles-ish trumpet solo to a pretty
hilarious effect, later, there's a beautiful arrangement of "Tristan in the
Sky" for trumpet, classical guitar and very subtle electronics. Other
pieces are more in a jazzy drum 'n' bass vibe, but very successful.
Bailey, Tacuma, Weston: Mirakle (tzadik): I'm still not sure what I think
of this, the first time I listened to it, it blew me away, the second time,
I found it pretty annoying. While both Bailey and the rhythm section stay
in their own worlds, there does seem to be a lot of rhythmic interaction
between them. Tacuma sounds great, except for some cheesy flatulent synth
bass FX. It's either the best or worst of Zorn's Bailey meets a rhythm
section projects. Hows that for equivocal?
Sun Ra: Janus (1201 Music): Typically great stuff from 1963-1970, only 34
minutes long, and the disc ends abruplty in what seems to be the middle of
a drum solo, but still great. One tune is credited thusly, "Sun Ra: gong or
clavinet", only on a Ra record...
____________________________________________
Dave Trenkel : improv@peak.org
Minus Web Site: http://listen.to/minusmusic
Minus MP3's: http://www.mp3.com/-minus-
____________________________________________
- -
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Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 17:25:46 EDT
From: JonAbbey2@aol.com
Subject: Re: art pepper
In a message dated 5/3/00 8:37:19 AM, gda@datacomm.ch writes:
<< what do you people on this list think about art pepper? recommended?
not? >>
the classic stuff from the fifties (Meets the Rhythm Section, Intensity) is
great, but my favorite Pepper is the Complete Galaxy Recordings box from the
70's, or at least the 8 CDs of it (I think it's 16 all together) which I
bought cheaply a while back. you get the sense that he didn't know how much
longer he'd be around, so he was going to make every second he played count,
since it might be his last. it reminds me a lot of how Loren Mazzacane sounds
now, although for very different reasons.
Jon
www.erstwhilerecords.com
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Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 23:29:36 +0200
From: "Mads Ruby" <ruby@mail.net4you.dk>
Subject: Re: Art Pepper
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>From: patRice <gda@datacomm.ch>
>Subject: art pepper
>
>what do you people on this list think about art pepper? recommended?
>not?
>
My advise would be to forget about "Pepper + 11" and "meets the Rhythm =
Section". 11 is downright embarrassing big band muzak, and the only =
really amazing thing about "AP meets the Rhythm Section" is that he was =
sober enough to meet them...
In general, the records he made after San Quentin are a lot more =
interesting. "The Trip" from1976 on Contemporary Records is my favorite =
- - Art Pepper at his squeaky best with George Cables, Elvin Jones and =
David Williams. If you don=B4t like that album, you probably won=B4t =
like Art Pepper at all... Also recommended are the Village Vanguard =
recordings from 1977 (same lineup except George Mraz substitutes =
Williams). There are 4 CDs from the Vanguard (Friday Night, Saturday, =
Sunday and Vol. 4). If you decide to become a fanatic there is also a =
nine CD box set that is well worth the investment.=20
Kind regards
Mads Ruby
ruby@mail.net4you.dk
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Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 17:39:44 +0100
From: James Hale <jhale@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Joey Baron (was: Baron/Ribot/Medeski)
The piece is for The Jazz Report, which publishes internationally out of
Toronto.
It's bought and paid for, so the magazine has first rights.
For those who can't find it, I'll post it when the issue is no longer
current... but that won't be until early fall. In the meantime, I'll try to
post something else of interest from the interview once I've had a chance
to transcribe it. Joey is a great interview.
James
patRice wrote:
> James Hale wrote:
> >
> > I interviewed Joey today for a magazine article and he told me that he
>
> hi james!
>
> what mag did you do the interview for?
>
> any chance of mailing it to us on the list? (or to me privately?)
>
> yours,
> patRice
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Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 14:57:30 -0700
From: "Mike Biffle" <mbiffle@svg.com>
Subject: Re: COBRA...
I'm still wondering if any of you might have more detailed information =
about the rules of COBRA? I've got the call sheet and understand most of =
the calls, but am still confused about the Guerilla actions and Divisi =
stuff. Anyone have more in-depth information?
Thanks,
- -Miko
BTW: Had the chance to catch Peter Kowald along with Damon Smith (both =
contrabass), Spirit, Oleyumi Thomas, Marco Eneidi, Lisa Mangsen last =
Friday in Oakland and it was a great show. 3 sets... Anyone else catch it?
Set 1: Damon, Peter
Set 2: Peter, Lisa, Spirit
Set 3: Damon, Peter, Marco, Oleyumi, Lisa
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Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 23:44:21 +0200
From: "Rob Allaert" <rob.allaert@charity.nu>
Subject: Re: dave douglas sextet live review
From: "Julian" <jcurwin@hartingdale.com.au>
He wrote: "Oh, and the opening bassline on Stargazer is annoyingly out of
tune..."
!! It definitely is NOT !!
Rob, Belgium
NP: Spring Ahead - Stargazer :-)
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Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 17:44:33 +0100
From: James Hale <jhale@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: The Bear Comes Home
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It is a wonderful book.
Zabor does have a way of getting inside the head of an improviser... and
his cameos of Lester Bowie, Arthur Blythe, Julius Hemphill (who hovers,
but never actually appears) are very well crafted.
If anyone wants to read more about Zabor's writing, he was part of a
panel that the Jazz Journalists Association staged on jazz and fiction.
The transcript of that online forum can be found at our site...
www.jazzhouse.org
James Hale
Colourtone wrote:
> Have any members read The Bear Come Home by Rafi Zabor?
>
> I am halfway through and loving it. It seems to provide and insight
> into the
> world of the improviser in a way I have never read before. It is also
> very
> funny and very cool.
>
> I am interested to hear any other thoughts but would recommend it to
> members
> as an excellent summer read.
>
> Richard Gardner
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It is a wonderful book.
<br>Zabor does have a way of getting inside the head of an improviser...
and his cameos of Lester Bowie, Arthur Blythe, Julius Hemphill (who hovers,
but never actually appears) are very well crafted.
<p>If anyone wants to read more about Zabor's writing, he was part of a
panel that the Jazz Journalists Association staged on jazz and fiction.
The transcript of that online forum can be found at our site... www.jazzhouse.org
<p>James Hale
<p>Colourtone wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE><style></style>
<font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Have
any members read The Bear Come Home by Rafi Zabor?</font></font>
<p><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>I am halfway through and loving it.
It seems to provide and insight into the</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>world of the improviser in a way I
have never read before. It is also very</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>funny and very cool.</font></font>
<p><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>I am interested to hear any other thoughts
but would recommend it to members</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>as an excellent summer read.</font></font>
<p><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Richard Gardner</font></font></blockquote>
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