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Subject: Zorn List Digest V2 #882
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Zorn List Digest Wednesday, March 8 2000 Volume 02 : Number 882
In this issue:
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Re: jim black / tiny bell trio
Re: jim black
tW
re: Odp: dave douglas sextet (plus clapping and drummers)
Re: Cooper-Moore
re: Cooper-Moore
november music
Re: jim black
Re: The Cure- Bloodflowers
re: jim black & cooper-moore
Contrabass viol; Msr. Han Bennik
Re: jim black
Boycotting Schubert?
RE: jim black..
Horvitz/Delbecq/Shepik new releases
Re: standing ovations
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Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 08:15:45 -0600 (CST)
From: Whit Schonbein <whit@twinearth.wustl.edu>
Subject: Re: jim black / tiny bell trio
i second the reccommendation for dave douglas' tiny bell trio as a good
place to hear jim black's work. my favorite disc is 'constellations', on
hatart, followed by 'songs for wandering souls' on winter&winter, the
first album on songlines (i think), and lastly, the 'live in europe' on
arabesque (i think). (ranking subject to change without notice ;).
whit
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Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 09:20:29 -0500
From: Jason Tors <jtors@organic.com>
Subject: Re: jim black
Pachora is a good start, I am into the third one [ast?]
and another side of his playing on any recording by Tim Berne's act,
Bloodcount.
>what's a good recording to start with that has jim black on drums?
>i love the new dave douglas cd, so maybe i should start with a DD cd with
>jim on it.
>any thoughts or suggestions?
>
>how about han bennink recordings that are "must haves"?
>
>craig
>
>
>-
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Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 09:31:28 -0500
From: Jason Tors <jtors@organic.com>
Subject: tW
Tom Waits Digest News Feed
The Official Tom Waits Web Site
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As most of you have heard now, Tom Waits was nominated for Best Male Rock
Vocal Performance for 'Hold On' and Best Contemporary Folk Album for 'Mule
Variations'. I actually missed the Grammy Awards show, but he did win for
Best Contemporary Folk Album. I don't put much stake in the Grammys but it
is nice to get his name mentioned.
I have also found that Tom Waits appears on a little known album called
'Moanin' Parade: The Gatmo Sessions Vol. 1' recorded by C-Side and Petit
Mal. This album is a studio recording of improvisations with experimental
and traditional instruments. Tom Waits is on all tracks on this album as
well as the follow-up album 'Swarm Warnings' which is yet to be released.
C-Side (California Sonic Instrument Designers Ensemble) includes Bart
Hopkin, Darrell Devore, Richard Waters and Tom Nunn. Petit Mal includes
Richard Waters, Gary Knowlton and Michael Knowlton. Other guest musicians
include Steve Shain, Tom Dondelinger, Doug Carroll, Bob B. Hobbs and Chris
Saunders. For more information and to hear two of the tracks, please visit
Jackalope Records at www.jackaloperecords.com.
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regularly again. It has been a very interesting time for me.
Best of luck,
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Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 10:11:30 -0500
From: Mark Saleski <marks@foliage.com>
Subject: re: Odp: dave douglas sextet (plus clapping and drummers)
have to agree about q&a. haynes is wonderful on that recording. i saw
him play in boston with metheny a few years back. the man was in great
shape and his playing was spectacular.
speaking of spectacular... i saw the metheny trio a few nights ago in
boston (really, somerville ma.) and have to put in a good mention for
bill stewart. i always was always impressed with his work with scofield
but never had a chance to see him live. man, he was just smokin'. the
interplay between him, larry grenadier, and metheny was nearly
telepathic. stewart's playing was very musical, muscular and _loud_!
reminded me a little of joey baron.
>Joey's incredible. Other great soloist is Roy Haynes (see
>Metheny/Holland/Haynes "q&a" - one of the best jazz albums - and the
guy was
>about 80 years old when he recorded it!).
- --
Mark Saleski - marks@foliage.com
Do not try to understand everything, lest you thereby be ignorant of
everything. --Democritus
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Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 10:20:20 -0500 (EST)
From: Ken Waxman <cj649@freenet.toronto.on.ca>
Subject: Re: Cooper-Moore
Cooper has been playing on and off with Parker (initially with David S.
Ware and Marc Edwards) for years. He also composes for theatre groups and
choirs and plays other instrumets such as diddley-bow and horizontal harp.
He is part of the Susie Ibarra Trio that has a CD on Hopscotch. A CD on
his solo piano performance at the Guelph Jazz Festival should be released
by Hoscotch in a couple of months.
Ken Waxman
On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, Matt Teichman wrote:
> Does anyone have any background info on this Cooper-Moore character that
> plays with William Parker/In Order to Survive? He's AMAZING!
>
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Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 10:45:25 -0500
From: kurt_gottschalk@scni.com
Subject: re: Cooper-Moore
First off, I'm very, very pleased to see that Cooper and William Parker are
playing together in a Bill Cole group at the Vision Festival in May.
Cooper-Moore is a fantastic, engaging performer. He's a great pianist, as
evidenced by In Order to Survive records that were mentioned in a previous post.
But playing piano is just one of his roles. He's an instrument maker, and his
assortment of stringed and bowed instruments (the diddley-bo, the twanger, the
homemade hoe-handle harp) are simplistic, inventive and, more importantly, sound
good. Those instruments can be heard on the Susie Ibarra Trio disc (with Charles
Burnham, violin) on Hopscotch. Hopscotch should have a solo Cooper-Moore disc
coming out soon as well.
If you're fortunate enough to catch him play a solo set (he did one at the
Brecht Forum last year, following a set by the Organic Trio -- Parker, Moore,
Daniel Carter), you'll likely see him as a storyteller as well -- long, funny,
well-told tales of growing up black in the south, playing in an r'n'b band and
keeping a knife out on the keyboard. At the Brecht Forum he brought up a dancer
and they did a piece together and then he explained, to the dancer's surprise,
that they were going to do something called "Puzzlin'" where the performers
interview each other. It went on for quite a long time, was very funny and
consistently interesting.
He's also one of the warmest people I know.
I don't know a whole lot about his jazz background. I should ask him sometime.
But he did tell me that he had been offered a record contract by a big label in
the 70s, but hated the way he was treated, not being allowed to make choices (he
wanted his record to be free and the release party to be at a soup kitchen, he
told me, so frustrations might well have been on both sides). Since that
experience, he's refused to record until Susie Ibarra and Assif Tsahar started
their label.
He'll be doing the following sets at the Vision Fest in New York:
> TUESDAY MAY 23
>* Bill Cole w. William Parker, Cooper-Moore, Joseph Daley,
> Atticus Cole, Sam Furnace, Warren Smith, Tracie Morris poet
> THURSDAY MAY 25
>* Cooper Moore Choir "From the Sea"
> w Sharon Heller, Jane Gabriels, Lisa Sokolov, Tiye Giraud, Aleta Hayes,
> Ayana Lowe, Bruce Mack, Michael Wimberly, Fred L. Price
I believe I posted the entire schedule, but if anyone wants it, email me
privately.
Cheers,
kg
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Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 11:59:14 -0500
From: Dante Sawyer <jazziz@sprintmail.com>
Subject: november music
does anyone know if november music in belgium is still going on? and if
it is how to get in touch with someone involved?
dante
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Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 12:42:47 -0500
From: Nils <jacobson@frodo.mgh.harvard.edu>
Subject: Re: jim black
neongreen7 <neongreen7@prodigy.net> wrote:
> what's a good recording to start with that has jim black on drums?
bloodcount: unwound (screwgun) a personal favorite. 3-disc live set.
and while i'm at it, let me offer a self-promoting reference to my jim
black interview/feature at all about jazz:
http://www.allaboutjazz.com/articles/a0599_06.htm
which may provide some interesting information for the curious.
hasta
nils
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Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 19:18:59 +0100
From: patRice <gda@datacomm.ch>
Subject: Re: The Cure- Bloodflowers
hi y'all
i know i'm rather late on this topic, but so what...
Todd Bramy wrote:
> >
> >i found myself agreeing with aquarius' review.
> >as a longtime cure fan, it was disappointing.
> >but certainly far better than their previous effort.
i'd agree on this. the album as a whole is definitely better than "wild
mood swings"; though there were some great songs on that as well.
> Alternately, I too am a career-spanning fan, and I find the new album to be
> a masterful return to form. I've seen it written that the album is the
> third in a trilogy that started with "Pornography" and
>"Disintigration", an
> observation I would agree with.
i'm also a career-spanning fan, and do not agree at all.
"pornography" and "disintegration" are just too perfect. "bloodflowers"
doesn't come anywhere near them. especially since the drummer sucks big
time.
i feel they could have done a lot better if they'd had a better drummer.
he drags the quality of the songs way down...
the trilogy thing was a marketing plot by robert smith.
i must admit that i would feel a little sad if the cure split up (which
seems to be very likely right now), but at the same time i feel that
that would be the best possible move.
robert smith has done everything he possibly can with this band (though
i'm sure he could still write a lot of interesting stuff for other
people or another group), and any further release can only de-mistify
this cult band. being a fan i hope that this wont happen; because so far
they've done pretty well!
yours,
patRice
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Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 13:29:51 -0500
From: "Joslyn Layne" <joslay@allmusic.com>
Subject: re: jim black & cooper-moore
> what's a good recording to start with that has jim black on drums?
> i love the new dave douglas cd, so maybe i should start with a DD cd with
> jim on it.
> any thoughts or suggestions?
As Jeroen said, Douglas' Tiny Bell Trio.. i have to admit, though, that
[for me] none of their recordings live up to the group's live performance --
but this is just a compliment on their live shows, not a dis on the CDs.. I
Strongly Recommend the Eskelin/Parkins/Black trio!! you'll find them on Hat.
they just get better & better, so i guess i'd have to recommend the latest,
"5 Pieces (+2)."
> how about han bennink recordings that are "must haves"?
Clusone Trio, "i am an indian" and/or "love henry"
w/ cellist Ernst Reijseger & reeds man Michael Moore
- -and-
Myra Melford/Han Bennink "eleven ghosts" [hatology]
[icp orchestra is g-reat, but a large group, so if you're looking to hear
lots of han..]
> From: Matt Teichman <mft4@cornell.edu>
> Subject: Cooper-Moore
> Does anyone have any background info on this Cooper-Moore character that
> plays with William Parker/In Order to Survive? He's AMAZING!
Agreed.. be sure to check him out on the recent Susie Ibarra Trio [w/
violinist Charles Burnham]. it's called "Radiance" & is on her own label,
hopscotch. really lovely disc.
as for 'who is he?' :
i believe he used to be named Gene Ashton. Regardless, Cooper-Moore has led
his own quartet & played at NYC's Vision Fest the last 3 yrs running and had
a solo set at Guelph Festival [canada] last year.. he's a
multi-instrumentalist & composer, builds his own wacky instruments.. he's in
Parker's Little Huey Orch and In Order to Survive and the Organic Trio w/
Parker and Daniel Carter [TEST], and has also played with David S. Ware,
Alan Braufman, and the George Carver Band...
cheers-
joslyn
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Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 10:26:15 -0800
From: Martin_Wisckol@link.freedom.com
Subject: Contrabass viol; Msr. Han Bennik
I find the bass soloing of Mark Dresser exceedingly pleasant. Indeed,
capable of sustaining my extended interest.
As for the good Mr. Bennik, all three of the Clusone 3 continue to
delight me to no end.
Martin
np Satoko Fujii Orchestra
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Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 21:48:11 +0100
From: Shlomo Weintraub <Ba4205@fen.baynet.de>
Subject: Re: jim black
there is a german free jazz band called "DER ROTE BEREICH". They have
recorded 3 albums. Jim Black played on their first two albums, called "de=
r
rote bereich" and "der rote bereich 2". the first album features Rudi Mah=
all
on bassclarinet, Frank M=F6bus on guitar, Henning Sieverts on Bass and Ma=
rty
Cook on trombone, the second album features Rudi Mahall on bassclarinet,
Frank M=F6bus on guitar and Hal Crook on trombone. On their last release =
a guy
called John Schr=F6der plays drums ( and again Rudi Mahall on bassclarine=
t and
Frank M=F6bus on guitar). The third is called (guess what..) "der rote be=
reich
3". Very nice KRONKEL-music... Has anyone out there on the zorn-list ever
listed to the Nils Wogram quartett? another great german avant-jazz band.=
..
neongreen7 schrieb:
> what's a good recording to start with that has jim black on drums?
> i love the new dave douglas cd, so maybe i should start with a DD cd wi=
th
> jim on it.
> any thoughts or suggestions?
>
> how about han bennink recordings that are "must haves"?
>
> craig
>
> -
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Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 16:43:18 -0500
From: kurt_gottschalk@scni.com
Subject: Boycotting Schubert?
Boycotting Schubert? (Washn)
By Joseph McLellan
Special to The Washington Post
WASHINGTON - An organized campaign to boycott Austrian cultural activities has
grown up since Joerg Haider's Freedom Party became a member of the country's
coalition government.
But several presenters in Washington have decided not to accept the connection
between Austrian politics and Austrian culture implied in that campaign.
Jerome Barry, director of the popular Embassy Series of chamber music concerts,
announced that his organization's performances at the Austrian Embassy will be
given as scheduled on March 31 and April 1.
Gloria Thompson, founder and director of the Schubert, Schubert and Schubert
Festival at Georgetown University, reported that some contributors have been
asked - and have declined - to withdraw their support.
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Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 17:30:17 EST
From: Orangejazz@aol.com
Subject: RE: jim black..
the best Jim Black i've heard, besides live, is probably his work with Tim
Berne's Bloodcount, especially on Discretion...very powerful.
from,
matt
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Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 14:57:46 -0800
From: Tony Reif <treif@songlines.com>
Subject: Horvitz/Delbecq/Shepik new releases
Some new releases from Songlines (and if it makes things easier our website
is finally set up for credit card sales):
WAYNE HORVITZ, American Bandstand (SGL 1528-2)
with Timothy Young (guitars), Keith Lowe (acoustic bass), Andy Roth (drums)
With Zony Mash "unplugged" - Horvitz's first piano record since 1987's Nine
Below Zero. Impressionistic ballads that might recall Paul Bley,
Ellington/Strayhorn, Debussy, or the wistful and piquant irony of Satie,
blend with mid-tempo songs likewise steeped in the history of jazz,
r&b/r&r, soul, funk, blues, gospel, & the avant-garde. A chamber-jazz
homage to musical roots...an open-hearted yet serenely beautiful record.
Publisher's pick of the week, All About Jazz (www.allaboutjazz.com)
BENOIT DELBECQ 5, Pursuit (SGL 1529-2)
with Fran=E7ois Houle (clarinet), Michael Moore (reeds), Jean-Jacques Avenel
(acoustic bass), Steve Arg=FCelles (drums & electronics)
One the most innovative young keyboardists & composers of the '90s has
forged a personal approach from jazz, ambient, contemporary classical, and
non-western musics. His playing on prepared piano reveals fugitive
harmonies and a rich palette of colors and phrasings. Polyphonic
rhythmic-melodic "fabrics" suggest balafon, sanza, pygmy music, gamelan, or
John Cage. His new international quintet creates a collective music with
the shape-shifting, mutatating quality of a waking dream, a feeling
augmented by Arg=FCelles' stealthy live sampling and processing. Previous
release: Fran=E7ois Houle/Beno=EEt Delbecq, Nancali (SGL 1519-2)
CHOC (5 stars), Jazzman feature review
Disque d'emoi, Jazz Magazine
Release date March 14:
BRAD SHEPIK, The Well (SGL 1531-2)
with Peter Epstein (saxes), Skuli Sverrisson (electric bass), Michael Sarin
(drums & percussion), Seido Salifoski (dumbek & percussion)
The follow-up to his critically acclaimed The Loan (SGL 1518-2) finds
guitarist/saz player Shepik (Tiny Bell Trio, Pachora, BABKAS) deeper in the
music of the Balkans, Middle East, and North Africa and deeper in his own
style - driving or insinuating grooves and melodies in compound time
signatures, with subtle group interplay, effortless solos, and a downtown
edge. "Collectively they are making some incredibly difficult and different
music sound natural, free, and purposeful." (All Music Guide)
Songlines Recordings
1003 - 2323 W. 2nd Ave.
Vancouver B.C. V6K 1J4, Canada
Tel: (604) 737-1632
=46ax: (604) 737-1678
treif@songlines.com
www.songlines.com
US/Canada distribution/sales: Allegro, 1 800 288 2007
Tony Reif (Songlines Recordings)
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Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 20:59:55 -0500
From: Steve Smith <ssmith36@sprynet.com>
Subject: Re: standing ovations
Dan Hewins wrote:
> I do find the encore protocol a bit amusing at large shows. It's as
> if the encore will always happen and that the band has to walk off
> the stage and wait the required 2-3 minutes then jog back on stage
> waving and mouthing "thank you." It might be funny if a band
> finished the "set" then says, "that was the end of the show and the
> next few songs are the encore. We don't want you to have to clap to
> an empty stage for five minutes."
The one time I ever actually heard Zappa live was in San Antonio, and he
seemed decidedly less than thrilled to be there. It was the late '80s 'Them
or Us' tour - Ike Willis, Ray White, Bobby Martin, Allan Zavod, Scott Thunes
and Chad Wackermann, with no one in the stunt guitar chair. When the band
took the stage, Zappa came to the mike and said, "Good evening and thanks for
coming. We're gonna play..." and here he read off the entire set list from
start to finish. "And then," he continued, "we're gonna leave the stage,
you're gonna clap for a while, and we're gonna come back and play [insert
title of old classic number 1] and [insert title of old classic number 2], and
then we're gonna leave the stage again. You're gonna clap for a little while
longer, we're gonna come back and play 'The Illinois Enema Bandit,' and then
we're gonna leave the stage and the lights will come on. Okay?" And that's
exactly what happened.
Steve Smith
ssmith36@sprynet.com
NP - King Crimson, "Groon," 'Live at Summit Studios, Denver' (King Crimson
Collectors Club, fresh out of the shrinkwrap)
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