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Zorn List Digest       Monday, February 14 2000       Volume 02 : Number 856



In this issue:
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       Re: as serious as your life
       NPR, NEA, PBS
       Re: NPR, NEA, PBS
       FW: Please ignore NEA, NPR, PBS federal funding
       Schlippenbach 3 (was Re: ton art)
       Play guitar -- it's a great cover
       Re: State of the Union
       London HELP !!!
       Re: State of the Union
       Kletka Red - Europe tour
       Ivo Papasov
       state of the union/samples
       some naked city mp3s
       william parker i.o.t.s.
       Re: william parker i.o.t.s.

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Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 16:02:59 -0500
From: Perfect Sound Forever <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: as serious as your life

On Fri, 11 Feb 2000 18:05:30, Ken Waxman <[e-mail]> said:
>From waht I've read it's *merely* a new edition of the old book. But, of
>course, if you've never read it, it's a valuable introduction to Free
>Jazz. Too bad the book leaves off about 1980.

I've probably mooned about this before here but it's easily one of the
finest books about music that I've ever read.  I agree that it's too bad
that it stops at 1980.  We need to petition Val for an update!

Best,
Jason



Perfect Sound Forever
online music magazine
[e-mail]
http://www.furious.com/perfect

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Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 14:18:19 -0700
From: "Matthew W Wirzbicki  (S) " <[e-mail]>
Subject: NPR, NEA, PBS

This message was sent to the activists list serve at Colorado College.  I
thought I'd pass it along to the zorn list as there may be some folks out
there who would feel inclined to put their name on this:


>     Petition to save National Public Radio Funding
  >
  >This is a petition to  save Federal funding for National Public Radio.
  I
  >belive that monies spent on  NPR and the NEA are the only monies spent
  by
  >the federal government to  enhance the mind and spirit of the people of
  >this country.  It is  important way beyond any proportionate
  >consideration of the money  spent.  Indeed, it is worthwhile in inverse
  >proportion to such things as  national "security".  The nation may need
  >the latter, but our  hearts need the former.  Please add your
  >voice if you support  NPR.
  >
  >
  >On NPR's "Morning Edition," Nina Totenberg reported  that if the
  >Supreme Court supports Congress to cut the budget of the  National
  >Endowment of the Arts, it is in effect the end of NEA.  This  situation
  >creates great concerns about  Congressional funding for the  creative
  >arts in America, since NEA provides major support for NPR  (National
  >Public Radio), PBS (Public Broadcasting System), and numerous  other
  >creative and performing arts. If NEA is lost or weakened, our lives
  will
  >be diminished.
  >
  >In spite of the efforts of every NPR station to  reduce spending costs
  >and increase financial support from listeners and other  sources, there
  >are those in Congress who believe that Federal funding  currently going
  >to support these programs is too great for something which is  seen by
  >them as not worthwhile.  Current general public tax support for  PBS is
  >$1.12 per person per year, and that for the National Endowment for  the
  >Arts is $0.64 per person per year.
  >
  >A January 1995 CNN/USA  Today/Gallup poll indicated that 76 percent of
  >Americans wish to keep funding  for PBS, viewed by them as third only
  >to national defense and law enforcement  as the most valuable programs
  >for federal funding.
  >
  >Please add your  name to this list and forward it to friends and
  >associates who believe in  favor of what this stands for.  The full
  >list will be forwarded to the  President of the United States, the Vice
  >President, and the Speaker of the  House, whose office has in the past
  >been the instigator of the action to cut  funding to these worthwhile
  >programs.
  >
  >This petition is being passed  around the Internet.  Please add your
  >name to it so that funding can be  maintained for the NEA, NPR, and
  PBS.
  >
  >THIS IS OUR CHANCE TO MAKE INTERNET  TECHNOLOGY WORK AS A VOICE IN OUR
  >DEMOCRATIC SYSTEM.  IT'S FASTER AND  EASIER THAN EVER TO MAKE OUR
  VOICES
  >HEARD.  Please keep the petition  rolling.
  >
  >DO NOT REPLY TO ME.  Sign your name and city below if you  are so
  >moved, then forward the message and signature list to others for  their
  >consideration.  This message is being forwarded to many people at  once
  >to add their names to the petition.  It won't matter if many  people
  >receive  the same list, as duplicate names are being  managed.
  >
  >This is for anyone who thinks NPR, PBS, and the NEA deserve  $1.75 per
  >year of their taxes.  If you sign, please forward the list to  others.
  >If not, please don't kill the message -- forward it anyway.
  >
  >If  you happen to be the 150th, 200th, 250th, etc., signer of this
  >petition,  please forward a copy to <[e-mail].
  >This  way we can keep track of the lists and organize them.  Please
  >forward  this message and the petition to those who may be like-minded
  in
  >support of  information and the arts.  Help us to keep these programs
  >alive.   Thank you.
  >
  >
  >NOTE: It is preferable that you SELECT the entirety of  this letter and
  >then COPY it into a NEW outgoing message, rather than  simply
  >forwarding it. In your new outgoing message, add your name to the
  bottom
  >of the list, then send it on. Or, if the option is available, do a
  SEND
  >AGAIN.
  >
  >201-250. forwarded to <[e-mail],  1/14/00
  >
  >251 Norman T. Burns, Vestal, NY
  >252. Lee Jacobus, Branford,  CT
  >253. William J. Kelly, Mystic, CT
  >254. David N. Orth, Nashville,  TN
  >255. Linda D. D'Errico, Nashville, TN
  >256. Cathy Summerlin, Franklin,  TN
  >257.  Patricia O'Toole, New York, NY
  >258 Phyllis Theroux, Ashland,  Virginia
  >259 Sophy Burnham, Washington, DC
  >260 Caroline Stone, New York,  N.Y.
  >261 Rod Keating, New York, N.Y.
  >262 Victoria Shelar, Norfolk,  VA
  >263 Anne Wood, Southern Shores, NC
  >264 Dick Wood, Southern Shores,  NC
  >265 Diane Henderson, Chapel Hill, NC
  >266 Nelson Henderson, Chapel Hill,  NC
  >266 Alice C. Woodbury, Chapel Hill, NC
  >267 John W. Woodbury, Chapel  Hill, NC
  >268 Barbara J. Libby, New Haven, CT
  >269 Pat Felletter,  Manchester, CT
  >270 Anne Simpson, Manchester, CT
  >271 Suzanne Flynn, New  York, NY
  >272 Carol Hawk, Fort Collins, CO
  >273 Judith B. Hawk, Washington,  DC
  >274  Raymond C. Offenheiser, Carlisle, MA
  >275  Suzanne M.  Hill,  Carlisle, MA
  >276  Leland Vandiver, Half Moon Bay,  CA
  >277  Susan T. Vandiver, Half Moon Bay, CA
  >278  Susan E.  Blouch, Cleveland Heights, OH
  >279  Virginia L. Crowthers, Detroit,  MI
  >280  Keith Allen Brown, Birmingham, MI
  >281  Diana Parlove,  Ferndale MI
  >282  Anita Adams, Antioch IL  283   Ann Litow, Durango  CO 81301
  >284  Dana Walters, Colorado Springs, CO
  >285  Mathilda de Dios, Colorado Springs
  >286  Matthew Wirzbicki, Colorado Springs, CO

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Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 16:38:40 -0500 (EST)
From: Maurice Rickard <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: NPR, NEA, PBS

Before anyone does anything about that petition, note that it's about
five years old.  Not exactly timely.  The whole story, for the curious,
is available here:

http://www.univnorthco.edu/petition.html

Cheers,

Maurice Rickard                       | "Multimedia will never go anywhere
Designer                              |  until the amateurs take over."
http://www.envirolink.org/maurice     |                     --David Thomas

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Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 14:59:11 -0700
From: "Matthew W Wirzbicki  (S) " <[e-mail]>
Subject: FW: Please ignore NEA, NPR, PBS federal funding

Sorry.

I recieved this message after reading the first:


Hi,
Please disregard the petition asking for your suppport for NEA, NPR, and
PBS funding. While it was written with good intentions, the petition was
invalidated 5 years ago. Just as discussion note, most of the NPR
listeners are white upper middle class liberals who do a good job of
supporting the radio stations (I am an NPR listener/PBS watcher too!).

If you have a petition that you would like to post, FORWARD IT TO
ME FIRST, so that I can check its validity. Let's not use the internet
to
disseminate bad or outdated information.

Here is the comment from one of the many sites
(http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/) reporting this chain letter:

"Below is a prime example of a chain letter that keeps circulating the
Internet. If you receive this chain letter, please delete.

David Brumley, the Network Administer at University of Northern Colorado
informed CIAC of the following: "In 1995, a couple of students wrote a
letter and sent it out to support funding for PBS and NPR. This letter
was
not intended to be a hoax, but instead was only a misguided attempt by
some students of ours to do some good. After reading through the CIAC
section on HOAX's, I decided to go ahead and verify that in fact this
one
should not be circulated. The students (one of whom has left the
university since the posting) have been reprimanded.[ed note: it is
unlikely that since this message was posted in 1996, that either
student, [e-mail] or [e-mail],

are still there)""

Thanks and peace,
kristan the list administrator

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It is easier to be a "patriot" than to render your own country its
proper due; it is easier to be a "civic leader" than to make your
community a  better place to live in; it is easier to be a
"humanitarian"
than to treat your own family with loving understanding; for the smaller
the focus of attention, the harder the task.
                -- Sydney J. Harris
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Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 00:20:36 GMT
From: "Scott Handley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Schlippenbach 3 (was Re: ton art)

>From: Hywel Davies <[e-mail]>

>also, can someone review the latert Schlippenbach Trio
>cd?!  thanks..

It _is_ strange this hasn't been reviewed yet.  I have listened to the disc
in three separate sittings, only once as a whole among the three. I don't
think this is any way to carefully consider a recorded improv performance,
especially a "live" one, and _especially_ if you intend others to expend
valuable time auditing your opinion.

That said: the new Schlippenbach/Parker/Lovens (COMPLETE COMBUSTION, FMP,
2000) is wonderful.  It's marred a little bit by recording, or mixing, which
sometimes allows the subtleties of Lovens work to turn to slag amidst the
piano and saxophone---Evan Parker suffers pretty badly in the mix
occasionally.  However, anyone who loves ELF BAGATELLEN---which is beautiful
but suffers from low levels and (to me) not-great production, very
dry---won't care about this.  Schlip3 don't take it ay further over the edge
here than on previous releases, it seems like more of the same; but what's
here is magical, with one 44-minute improvisation, and several short ones
listed as belonging to the same suite, or performance ("Fuels").
Schlippenbach is featured on some solos which sound like entropic
boogie-woogie, and there's a haunting touchdown to the long first piece
which reminds me of the beginning to "bowed stiffly then went free..." from
the 50th BIRTHDAY CONCERT performance.  It's a bravura performance, if
familiar.  Worth the price of admission, and not a bad way into the work of
Schlippenbach, Parker, or Lovens.

2-cents,

- -----s
______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com


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Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 18:40:08 -0800
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Play guitar -- it's a great cover

I have just updated my sale/trade list with a whole bunch of new stuff
inc
Tzadik releases, Eugene Chadbourne, Narc Ribot, Fushitsusha and a load
of
others.

Ah, that explains the paranoia I feel when listening to Ribot.

- -

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Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 10:30:12 +0000
From: "Peter Marsh" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: State of the Union

dg wrote:

> I've always looked at it as
>the "downtown" version of Duncan McKay's ReR-related _Miniatures_
>album/project, released on the Tube label back in the early 80's (and
>recently re-issued on Voiceprint, IIRC) that introduced this type of multiple
>artists/one minute songs thing.

Sorry to be anal, but it was Morgan Fisher (ex Mott the Hoople keyboard
player and sometime Lol Coxhill collaborator) who put out 'Miniatures' (on
Pipe records), and not Duncan Mckay (who, if memory serves, was a bit of a
keyboard whizz on ye olde Prog Rock scene in the 70's...) Haven't heard it
for years, but I think it's probably well worth picking up for the likes of
Fred Frith, Robert Fripp and Robert Wyatt amongst others.

cheers

Peter

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Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 12:18:04 +0100
From: 2L <[e-mail]>
Subject: London HELP !!!

Hi everybody,
I need help 'cause I'll be in London next Friday, Saturday and Sunday.
So I need To know:
1- If anybody has good independent record stores to advise where I could
find good music (from stoner to dub and also zorn stuff) which would not
be that expensive AND/OR second hand CDs (that means not tower records
or virgin).
2- If anybody has some good shows to advise or knows a website which
lists the shows in London clubs concerning these three days (I was not
able to find one).
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanx in advance.
2L.



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Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 08:58:09 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: State of the Union

In a message dated 2/14/00 5:29:17 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< Sorry to be anal, but it was Morgan Fisher (ex Mott the Hoople keyboard
 player and sometime Lol Coxhill collaborator) who put out 'Miniatures' (on
 Pipe records), and not Duncan Mckay (who, if memory serves, was a bit of a
 keyboard whizz on ye olde Prog Rock scene in the 70's...) >>

...from Steve Harley's Cockney Rebel, if memory serves....

Dale.

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Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 15:43:14 +0100
From: "john rust" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Kletka Red - Europe tour

Four years after their first CD Hijacking as a art of Radical Jewish Culture
on Tzadikn Kletka Red is back with HYBRID released on Red Note/explain. The
band is touring Europe in the nearest future -

23.02 - Bordeaux
24.02 - Pedigri (sp?..)
25.02 - Nanntes
28.02 - Faenza
29.02 - Bolonga
1.03 - Montepulciano
3.03 - Freiburg
4.03 - Paris
5.03 - Rotterdam
6.03 - Amsterdam

I'll pass the details to the list as soon as they are available.

John


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Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 13:13:04 -0500 (EST)
From: Matt Moran <[e-mail]>
Subject: Ivo Papasov

> While he's not jazz (but definitely Balkan), anyone know what Ivo Papasov is
> doing these days?  Two CDs on Hannibal and poof- disappearing act.

Ivo hasn't disappeared -- he still lives in Bulgaria. ;)  He's known as
Ibrahim (I think) there, and he's well respected and well-off (for a
Bulgarian there).  He lives in a small town, and actually has a pretty low
profile there.  Believe it or not, he's not in high demand there, because
Bulgarian wedding music is a 20-year old style (and house-music is only
about 10?) and because the economy is so bad, it's hard to pay.

I know what you mean, it's amazing that such an astonishing virtuoso would
hang out in limbo-land.

- -matt



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Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 14:47:21 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: state of the union/samples

nilugo asks about state of the union, a really fun record, i think. there's a 1
cd version and a subsequently released 2cd version. and with 60 sec tracks,
there are billions of folks on it, from this lists' usual suspects to some
poets, comics and people i don't know. well worth it.

as for the painkiller completism, there's also a single track on a disc called
"samples", a japanese comp that's pretty good. i think the label is something
like "mabo." the song has the same title as one of the tracks on the box, but
it's radically different, a loopy dubby laswell thing that barely resembles the
original.



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Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 13:55:40 -0600 (CST)
From: Whit Schonbein <[e-mail]>
Subject: some naked city mp3s

hello everyone,

as some of you may know, i have a page on which i sporadically post mp3s
of live unreleased jazz.  well, i don't feel like keeping it up anymore,
but i figured i'd put up one last pair.  so there are a couple of naked
city tunes from a show in amsterdam in 89 (theme to body heat, and the
theme to once upon a time in america).

you'll also find a link to the homepage of my ultra-low-budget cd-r-only
record label, which has some sound clips from music projects i am or was
involved in. so check that out if you are so inclined.

the link: http://artsci.wustl.edu/~wwschonb/music.html

cheers,
whit

np - silence, oh glorious silence


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Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 21:40:15 GMT
From: "Scott Handley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: william parker i.o.t.s.

I see THE PEACH ORCHARD appearing in some "reliable" top ___ lists for '99;
can anyone vouch for it?  Actually, I haven't heard much In Order to Survive
at all, just saw William live w/ his wife dancing.  I didn't care for the
dancing, or for WIlliam's euphonium playing, but the bass improvisations
were brilliant; one lasted about a half hour, and time pretty much stopped
for me.  I'd love some feedback.

- -----s
______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com


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Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 15:45:42 -0600
From: Moudry <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: william parker i.o.t.s.

At 21:40 14-02-00 GMT, you wrote:
>I see THE PEACH ORCHARD appearing in some "reliable" top ___ lists for '99;
>can anyone vouch for it?  Actually, I haven't heard much In Order to Survive
>at all, just saw William live w/ his wife dancing.  I didn't care for the
>dancing, or for WIlliam's euphonium playing, but the bass improvisations
>were brilliant; one lasted about a half hour, and time pretty much stopped
>for me.  I'd love some feedback.
>
>-----s

I'll vouch for "The peach orchard" very loudly: it was near the top of my
year's best list. Wonderful stuff from top drawer creative improv. folks,
which has caused me to start saving pennies for Wm. Parker's latest on
hatArt/ology/[fill in the suffix]. Definitely worth adding to the shelf.

Saturnally,
Joe Moudry

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