<< In the former case, it also helped that Mike Patton happened to replace
Chuck Mosely, >>
am i the only one that dug this guy and the "introduce yourself" album????
and whatver happended to him any way? anywhere else to check him out?
joseph
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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 02:48:39 +0100
From: 2L <laurent.levy@fnac.net>
Subject: Re: FNM
XRedbirdxx@aol.com a =E9crit :
> << In the former case, it also helped that Mike Patton happened to rep=
lace
> Chuck Mosely, >>
>
> am i the only one that dug this guy and the "introduce yourself" album?=
???
> and whatver happended to him any way? anywhere else to check him out?
>
> joseph
>
> -
he's playing cbgb's next sunday with his new band VUA if you're in NYC.
if you're not there, it's cybercasted on www.cbgb.com
show starts at 8pm (eastcoast time) but they're playing last.
2L.
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Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 18:54:36 -0700
From: smokey@laplaza.org
Subject: DD, Indie Cool, Etc.
Funny, no one's mentioned Mr. Bungle in this thread.
I remember first hearing their first album(produced by John Zorn, as you
must know) way back in '91 at the "jazz club", an informal friday-nite
get-together of 4 or 6 difficult-listening afficianados on Maui, and I
suddenly remembered that I'd seen a review in People(!) - it was
"Picked", not "Panned"; a review I'm sure would have never even appeared
if they'd not been on Warner Brothers. It must've been People's first
mention of Zorn.
Of course, they pretty much came out of nowhere, just a couple home-made
tapes before the "big time", so maybe they don't really fit in this
thread after all. Now, I guess the "Patton factor" carries them along,
but how the hell did they get signed anyway? Patton had only just
joined Faith No More - was Zorn throwing his "enormous influence"
around?
They never fail to confuse, infuriate and ultimately satisfy me. I hope
they can keep putting out product despite their radically unpredictable
and ungrateful attitude.
Gotta love em
But why hasn't WB dropped them, or would they WANT to be dropped?
Dan
Taos
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Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 21:27:54 -0500
From: Lang Thompson <wlt4@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: DD, Indie Cool, Etc.
>Of course, they pretty much came out of nowhere, just a couple home-made
>tapes before the "big time", so maybe they don't really fit in this
I actually reviewed one of these Mr Bungle tapes for Option at the time &
it's still floating around somewhere.
LT
Full Alert Film Review
http://wlt4.home.mindspring.com/fafr.htm
Funhouse
http://wlt4.home.mindspring.com/funhouse.htm
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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 07:45:28 -0800
From: Daryl Loomis <DRL@valley-media.com>
Subject: Re: DD, Indie Cool, Etc.
Dan says:
>They never fail to confuse, infuriate and ultimately satisfy me. I hope
>they can keep putting out product despite their radically >unpredictable
>and ungrateful attitude.
>Gotta love em
>But why hasn't WB dropped them, or would they WANT to be >dropped?
Since the ultimate break-up of Faith No More, Patton has decided to make Mr. Bungle his most serious project. It seems like WB keeps them around because they sell a lot of albums with absolutely no promotion, so it costs WB nothing to keep them on. Plus, their diversity of sound allows them to extend to a number of markets. From the comic-metal aspects of the first album to the pure avant-garde wierdness of Disco Volante (which, in my opinion, is more "Zorn-like" than the one that he produced himself) to the doo-wop, sickly pop sound of the latest California, Mr. Bungle has shown that they have the ability to spread through all different kinds of markets.
Unlike FNM, which Patton was asked to do, Mr. Bungle is done with people he's known for a long time. This seems like it will keep the infighting that occured in FNM down, but I cannot imagine a whole lot of tours coming from it (considering when Trey Spruance was asked to join on for "King for a Day" and then dropped out when touring started). However, I think that they are a better studio band than a touring band.
Mr. Bungle will be around for a long time
Daryl Loomis
drl@valley-media.com
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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 12:49:52 -0800
From: Matthew Ross Davis <mrd@artswire.org>
Subject: Re: Taboo and Exile photo
Someone may have already pointed this out, but unlike the Taboo & Exile
release, the Duras Duchamp card tray hints to the existence of the photo
through the center of the CD-holder. It's actually interesting how this
is reminiscent of how the actual work of art is viewed.
On Tue, Jan 25, 2000, Whit Schonbein <whit@twinearth.wustl.edu> wrote:
>there was some talk of a photo hidden under the tray in a zorn cd some
>time back. it was decided that it was a photo of marcel duchamp's "Etant
>Donnes: 1. La Chute deau, 2. La Gaz declairage" from the Philadelphia
>Museum of Art. I can't recall what zorn cd it was, but here's a
>description of the peice:
>
>a mixed-media assemblage he began in 1946 and worked on
> until his death. It is a striking tableau featuring a naked female
> figure with her hand on an old gas lamp that leaves a surreal
> aura
>
>and another one:
>
>The viewer of the piece first steps onto a mat in front of the door, which
>activates the lights, motor, etc., and then peers through two "peepholes"
>to view the construction behind the door. The voyeur strains,
>unsuccessfully, to see the "face" of the eerily realistic nude female form
>which lies supine on a bed of twigs, illuminated gas lamp in hand. In the
>distance, a sparkling waterfall shimmers, backlit by a flickering light,
>part of a realistically rendered landscape painting on glass.
it's a Powerbook improv CD on Christof Kurzmann's new label, Charhizma, and
it's not being distributed in the US as of yet, although I've been trying to
get him to send me some which I'll offer to the Z-list first. Dafeldecker,
Kurzmann, and Fennesz are on the whole disc, and the other three guest on the
various long pieces, which have been edited down from live shows. it's really
a great disc, and it's a shame it hasn't made it over here yet.
<<polwechsel (+/-) was my best concert experience of the year, fwiw>>
the Polwechsel show in NYC at the Flea Theater was pretty great. they're
coming back to the US in May.
conflict of interest alert: Burkhard Stangl and Kurzmann are in the process
of recording a duo record for my label.
Jon
www.erstwhilerecords.com
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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 07:09:55 -0800
From: Daryl Loomis <DRL@valley-media.com>
Subject: Recommendations of Ayler
The best example that I know of (that is still in print) the magic that Albert Ayler had is "Live-Greenwich Villiage Session" on Impulse. It's a 2-disc set, so it's a little more of an investment (& I dare you to find it used), but it's well worth it. I cannot remember off the top of my head what year it was recorded in, but it holds 14 tracks, almost all of which are quality.
Daryl Loomis
drl@valley-media.com
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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 18:25:20 GMT
From: "Scott Handley" <c123018@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Recommendations of Ayler
I agree with Darrell, the Ayler VANGUARD sessions are great, and exquisitely
bizarre. The psychedelic cover style might be more appropriate than one
would guess: a marching band from Mars, to rudely paraphrase one of the more
clever members of this list from way back when...
What is more shocking, more essential, more epochal, and (and I say this
with the most earnest disappointment) far more rare with demise of ESP, is
SPIRITUAL UNITY, the only essential Ayler record. You need no other
Ayler...the rest of it, the whole lot, is for collectors. UNITY was a trio
date from the mid-Sixties (1964, I think) with SUnny Murray and Gary
Peacock, and it is _ferocious_, sui generis music if ever there existed
such. Apparently the original LP comes with a "hidden" booklet of poems by
Paul Haines, who produced the session. Amazing, insane stuff, though I had
to archaeologize my listening to de-crust my desensitized eardrums. Aural
shock in the age of Merzbow, and Roseanne, has become difficult. (But
please understand, I think the Ayler music is far more than shock, FYI.)
- -----s, still reeling
np: DKV trio - LIVE AT WELS AND CHICAGO (Okkadisk)....pretty terrific!
