> I need recommendations for Trip Hop or Drum & Bass (or any
>electronic Dance
>genre)projects that any Jazz/Avant Garde artist has done.
Pat Thomas, _New Jazz Jungle: Remembering_
Ponga, _S/T_ (w/Wayne Horvitz & Bobby Previte) (Loosegroove) - also highly
recommended is the remix CD, simply called _Ponga Remixes_ (Loosegroove),
and including an Amos Tobin remix.
Does Buckethead qualify as a "jazz/avantgarde" artist? Then why not _Day of
the Robot_, with heavy DJ Ninj input.
Stephen
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Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 09:18:35 -0600
From: "Joslyn Layne" <joslay@allmusic.com>
Subject: re: sine waves
Thanks to all for helping bring a little understanding my way...
in response to a few folks' notes:
- -Yes, my response to sine waves is a physical [-triggering-strong-emotional]
reaction that i cannot rationalize away. i purely Hate hearing some of those
frequencies. go figure.
- -I was, indeed, into the i.s.o. show.. i couldn't believe the drummer's set
up.
- -Thanks for the 'difference' and 'summation' tones clarifier- but there's no
cause to fight!
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Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 11:06:06 -0500
From: ssmith36@sprynet.com
Subject: Re: Re: more Bailey Recs
Tom Pratt <tpratt9@yahoo.com> wrote:
> --- Steve Smith wrote:
>
> Okay, here's another hare-brained thread: If you
> could put Bailey into a playing/recording situation
> with absolutely anybody, who would it be?
Le Quan Ninh.
YES! Agreed.
Steve Smith
ssmith36@sprynet.com
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Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 14:13:37 -0500
From: wlt4@mindspring.com
Subject: Re: Re: more Bailey Recs
>Re: Kaiser being a dickhead... From my admittedly
>limited experience with him, he's actually been a very
>nice and generous guy. He was very informative and
Without going into details I once experienced what people are probably referring to, but when Henry found out that it was a legitimate misunderstanding between us and a well-meaning publicist he was very apologetic and even sent sent some taped concerts as a peace offering. (The punch line was that the two resulting articles were later canned almost simulataneously by the magazines involved.)
LT
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Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 16:53:23 -0500 (EST)
From: Aaron D Meyers <adm226@is9.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: TripHop, Drum&Bass Projects
> the big three, if you want purist experimental electronica, are
> squarepusher (pre-'rotted'), bisk, and autechre. the first two have
> actual jazz elements. the third simply represents the electronica of
> the future. avoid squarepusher from 'rotted' on; it's dreck.
I would have to completely disagree with this last statement. There are a
lot of nay-sayers when it comes to the latest Squarepusher stuff, but
while I really love the older stuff, Music is Rotted One Note is a truly
amazing album covering very fresh territory. Admittedly, it took me a bit
to get into, but the new Squarepusher era can hardly be written off as
"dreck".
I'll second the Cujo/Amon Tobin reccomendation, but the real magnum opus
of his is Permutation. I love the Cujo disc, but Permutation is very
evolved and complex in places where the Cujo disc was a bit lacking.
In this area of Jazz-inflected electronic music, also worth checking out
is the Cinematic Orchestra (cut-up jazz noir orchestral sound with live
musicians), Clifford Gilberto (jazzed up DnB with a cartoonish edge?), Red
Snapper (live band DnB, etc.), and also check out Isotope 217 for sure.
In regards to downtowners doing DnB/Trip Hop, Ponga is worth checking
out. Dave Douglas' Sanctuary CD occasionally has a Trip Hop feel to
it... sorta. Thats about all I can think of at the moment that is
actually recorded. If you are in NYC, check out the amazing live Drum and
Bass stylings of drummer Jo Jo Mayer.
- -Aaron
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Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 18:54:42 EST
From: XRedbirdxx@aol.com
Subject: curious
is the steve smith that frequents this list the same steve smith, assistant
conductor of the cleveland orchestra?
joseph
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Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 19:30:53 -0500
From: Brian Olewnick <olewnik@idt.net>
Subject: Re: curious
XRedbirdxx@aol.com wrote:
>
> is the steve smith that frequents this list the same steve smith, assistant
> conductor of the cleveland orchestra?
Yeah, his orchestration of "Starless and Bible Black" is killer!
;-)
Brian Olewnick (Sorry, Steve, couldn't help myself...)
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Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 20:28:53 EST
From: Dgasque@aol.com
Subject: Re: TripHop, Drum&Bass Projects
In a message dated Fri, 7 Jan 2000 4:54:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, Aaron D Meyers <adm226@is9.nyu.edu> writes:
>
> > the big three, if you want purist experimental electronica, are
> > squarepusher (pre-'rotted'), bisk, and autechre. the first two have
> > actual jazz elements. the third simply represents the electronica of
> > the future. avoid squarepusher from 'rotted' on; it's dreck.
>
> I would have to completely disagree with this last statement. There are a
> lot of nay-sayers when it comes to the latest Squarepusher stuff, but
> while I really love the older stuff, Music is Rotted One Note is a truly
> amazing album covering very fresh territory. Admittedly, it took me a bit
> to get into, but the new Squarepusher era can hardly be written off as
> "dreck".
>
> I'll second the Cujo/Amon Tobin reccomendation, but the real magnum opus
> of his is Permutation. I love the Cujo disc, but Permutation is very
> evolved and complex in places where the Cujo disc was a bit lacking.
>
> In this area of Jazz-inflected electronic music, also worth checking out
> is the Cinematic Orchestra (cut-up jazz noir orchestral sound with live
> musicians), Clifford Gilberto (jazzed up DnB with a cartoonish edge?), Red
> Snapper (live band DnB, etc.), and also check out Isotope 217 for sure.
>
> In regards to downtowners doing DnB/Trip Hop, Ponga is worth checking
> out. Dave Douglas' Sanctuary CD occasionally has a Trip Hop feel to
> it... sorta. Thats about all I can think of at the moment that is
> actually recorded. If you are in NYC, check out the amazing live Drum and
> Bass stylings of drummer Jo Jo Mayer.
>
> -Aaron
>
Have to "me too" Aaron's statement. If you're one to limit your electronica scope to the drifty/bleepy stuff, then sorry 'bout that- you're missing out. Squarepusher has avoided the redundancy one finds in much of the ambient/electronic/d'n'b world these days. I wish others would reach out and explore like Jenkinson and the others mentioned above...
=dg=
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Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 09:09:19 GMT
From: "Scott Handley" <c123018@hotmail.com>
Subject: 99 lists? (plus merzbow, and evan parker)
1.
Is it me, or has the list given up its exhibitionist acquisitiveness? One
of its most endearing qualities, IMHO. I barely bought anything this year.
Dammit. ARe ya'll cooking up insane best of year/decade fave lists? Please
say so. I need the zorn-list alternative to the requisite JAZZIZ, downbeat,
JAZZTIMES lists. We listen to (virtually) _everything_! And _blow_ the
O.T. taboo: what's everybody been reading and watching this year/decade?
From the material, to the conceptual, to the material!
2.
I've had my eye on a few Merzbow discs. I've received rec's a couple times,
but no mention of two Alien 8 releases: AQUA NECROMANCER (an apparently
prog-derived, "rhythmic" departure) and DOOR OPENS AT 8PM (MA's tribute to
"free jazz"---huh?). I guess I was also looking at the Rainbow Electronics
2 and a few others. I found PULSE DEMON a hair too extreme for me, but then
again I didn't listen to it longer than 5 min at a time. I realize Merz
might not be approachable like this.
3.
How is the new Evan Parker w/ Ghost in the Machine? (I loved the first.)
How is the new Schlippenbach? Has anyone heard the Cecil Taylor quartet
