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Zorn List Digest      Saturday, December 25 1999      Volume 02 : Number 819



In this issue:
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       RE: RECORDING STUFF FOR OTHERS
       Grover Washington Jr. 1943-1999
       Sharing Zornish Music
       No Subject
       Re: Wim Mertens
       jellyroll, krauss
       new Sun Ra re-issue
       Re: new Sun Ra re-issue
       DJ Logic
       Re: new Sun Ra re-issue
       Re: new Sun Ra re-issue
       Re: new Sun Ra re-issue
       chris cutler's science group
       aube suggestions?
       upcoming Tzadik releases

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Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 08:27:26 -0800 (PST)
From: Peter Risser <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: RECORDING STUFF FOR OTHERS

- --- patRice <[e-mail]> wrote:

> >>I can't help sharing the music.  Whether it's a
> radio
> >>show, an internet broadcast, loaning out CDs, or
> >>posting to Usenet, I want to share the joy that I
> >>feel.  And I seriously hope that some of that
> >>excitement filters back to the artist eventually.

> isn't the question if by not buying stuff but just
> recording and
> distributing it you might very well put some
> artists/labels out of
> business?

Mostly, I'm hoping it will keep them IN business, by
passing the word.  I had heard Blonde Redhead was
great, but still, I'm not buying until I can hear it.
Downloaded the entire new album on MP3, fell in love.
Went out and bought it and the previous one.
Fantastic!  The new Trans Am, heard they were great,
but still not buying.  Downloaded the album, BAM, they
had a sale.  Ben Folds, downloaded one, two, five,
eight songs and finally thought I gotta get these
albums.  Boom, I own all four (plus concert tix) and
they have a fan they would have NEVER reached on the
strength of one low-ranking, not very strong top 40
hit.

Really, I hardly ever buy albums without hearing them
first, and when I do, I'm generally disappointed.

And here's the weird thing.  I would feel very
uncomfortable duplicating a CD for someone.  But I'd
easily tape two albums for them to listen to, or drop
ten albums to CD-ROM as mp3s.  WhY?  I think because I
view tapes and mp3s as intermediate media.  A
temporary thing, of sorts.  Whereas, somehow, a CD
burn makes me more uncomfortable.  Similarly, I don't
burn whole albums off tape or MP3 to CD, because I
feel that, if I want it that bad, I oughta go out and
buy it.

Well, with one exception.  I burned copies of two
bootlegs, but hey...

I also make mixes for people, again, because I enjoy
spreading the music, having them think suddenly, WOW!
Pigpen sounds great!  I gotta go hear more of that!

Is the artist really losing money because I put a song
of theirs on a mix?  Is it possible that my friend
would have been browsing the local Camelot and run
across a Pigpen album and thought, Hmmm, I think I
might pay 16 dollars for this and listen.

I doubt it.

So, I really hope I'm helping the artist when I make
mixes or post MP3s.  Get the word out to the public.
That's my goal, really.  And to make people happy and
excited about different types of music than
traditional commercial fodder.

Peter
__________________________________________________
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Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 13:03:50 -0800
From: Jason Tors <[e-mail]>
Subject: Grover Washington Jr. 1943-1999

not a good year to be a jazz player over 50.

http://www.jazze.com/news/more_news_info.cfm?article_num=75

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Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 17:02:28 +0100
From: "Rob Allaert" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Sharing Zornish Music

Ok, we got four zornlist/napster members so far. I guess the rest isn't
interested in sharing Zorn related MP3's. These are the user names of those
who hang around in the Jazz channel regularly:

* zorn_007
* zorn_108
* MattOrange
* bscd

The biggest problem is indeed that Napster's servers aren't interconnected.
It is therefore hard to locate one another. When they fix this and when more
zorn listers get involved I will inform the list. Send me a private email:
[e-mail]

Please join too!

(in reference to)
JazZorns,

Maybe some of you have heard about http://www.napster.com. This program
enables users to connect with other users' local mp3 directories (from
computer to computer in other words). Plus there's the possibility to chat.
I believe this is a wonderful tool for Zornlisters. As for me, I'm always
curious to hear one or two tracks from, let's say, Taboo and Exile, before I
buy the CD. Well, it is now possible for all listers to share one or two
tracks from their new CD's so others can find out whether they like it too
without having to upload them to a server first. I'm not talking about full
albums, just one or two tracks per album. True music lovers still buy albums
:-)

As long as the group "Avant Garde" isn't available with Napster, I'd suggest
we populate the "Jazz" group. You will be asked to choose a user name. Pick
something like "zorn_025". This will help identifying the zornlisters! Don't
worry if all your MP3's aren't AG, just make sure you have something that
could interest most of us ;-) Oh yeah, since all Napster's servers aren't
fully connected, it is possible that users who are both connected to Napster
at the same time will not be able to see each other. They're working on
that.

To give all members of this list an idea of how many people are joining
Napster, please email me privately announcing you joined napster. I will
post the results later.

To me the best part of the Zorn list is to get to know more about new
releases. That's why I urge people to benefit from this new tool. Looking
forward to seeing some Zorn related music on this overly poppy
www.napster.com

Join 'em!

Rob, Belgium.


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Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 23:05:43 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: No Subject

Just a piece of promotion to let you all know that Sephardic Tinge, the trio
of Anthony Coleman - Piano, Ben Street - Bass, and Michael Sarin - Drums,
will be playing at Tonic, 107 Norfolk Street between Delancey & Rivington, on
Thurs. Dec. 23rd on a double bill with Marc Ribot - solo guitar. Concert
starts at 8 PM, tickets are $10. For more info, call Tonic at 212-358-7501
                                    Sephardic Tinge
"If you can't manage to put tinges of Spanish into your tunes, you will never
be able to get the right seasoning for jazz." - Jelly Roll Morton
The Spanish Tinge plus the Jewish Tinge equals the Sephardic Tinge - right?
With a repertoire consisting of Anthony Coleman's original compositions,
traditional Judeo - Hispanic music, and  Latin - tinged Jazz classics, this
trio keeps pushing boundaries and creating connections. Recently returned
from a European tour which included performances at the Sarajevo Jazzfest and
the Vienna Jewish Culture Weeks, this is Sephardic Tinge's only NY concert
this season.

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Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 18:38:06 +0100
From: "Stefan Verstraeten" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Wim Mertens

Hi

Just to let you know that a few months ago, "les disques du crepuscule"
released a "best of" Wim Mertens.
The disc features a broad aspect of his work: his solo piano work (most of
them soumdtracks), but also his more symphonic work and -yes indeed- one
track that features his guitar playing (as far as I know, only one album
with guitar music was released).

However, don't know if this album is released outside europe.

Best wishes

Stefan Verstraeten

[e-mail]



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Date: Tue, 21 Dec 99 13:49:29 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: jellyroll, krauss

Long, nicely written Jelly Roll Morton piece by Howard Reich and William Gaines
(Chicago Tribune) available for the asking. Just ask me.

Also, just picked up Briggan Krauss' Descending to End. Really nice solo,
multitracked sax'n'effects. I've not been crazy about what recordings I've heard
of his, but picked this up curious to see if it was the naked solo. It's not,
but it's really good. What do folks think of this compared to his other discs.



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Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 22:27:50 -0800 (PST)
From: Tom Pratt <[e-mail]>
Subject: new Sun Ra re-issue

Just writing to let folks know that Son Boy Records
has re-issued 'A Black Mass' by Amiri Baraka and Sun
Ra & The Myth-Science Arkestra. I was pretty busy when
I heard it today so I can't say too much except that
it's some sort of bizarre play. It's nice to see this
ultra-rare LP hit the CD format so we can all actually
hear it! For the time being, though, the only stores I
know of that will have this are in NYC: Other Music
and a store uptown (can't remember the name). The
folks who run Son Boy apparently aren't dealing with
distributers, but these stores got the hook-up.

According to the notes on the back of the disc, Son
Boy plans on re-issuing the entire Jihad catalog
(anyone know what else is there aside from the Sonny
Murray record?) and unreleased material including a
session feauring Pharoah Sanders and Albert Ayler.

Thought that might interest some...

         -Tom Pratt
__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Thousands of Stores.  Millions of Products.  All in one place.
Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com

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Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 04:20:20 -0500
From: eric ong <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: new Sun Ra re-issue

>According to the notes on the back of the disc, Son
>Boy plans on re-issuing the entire Jihad catalog
>(anyone know what else is there aside from the Sonny
>Murray record?) and unreleased material including a
>session feauring Pharoah Sanders and Albert Ayler.


There were 3 lps: #663 ("Sonny's Time Now"), #1968 ("Black Mass"), and
#1001 ("Black and Beautiful Soul & Madness" by Leroi Jones) -- and a
single from #1001 ... apparently Jones recorded "much more" than was
issued. An extensive dig into those tapes would be some kinda wholly
grail enterprise tho I imagine that rights clearance would keep the flow
down to a trickle.


bst
eric


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Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 10:29:20 -0300
From: Linares Hugo <[e-mail]>
Subject: DJ Logic

Hi all!

Can anyone give a review on the new DJ Logic's Project?
By the way, is it easily available in all stores?

Thanks for your help.

Hugo

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Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 12:02:23 -0500 (EST)
From: Ken Waxman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: new Sun Ra re-issue

Tom:

What is Son Boy BTW? A Japanese label. And if so, how much will these
Jihads cost? Considering the tos-and-fros from everyone's estates and
relatives it may be a while before we see any more Ayler et. al.

Furthermore wasn't "Sunny's Tiem Now" supposed to be reissued by DIW?

Ken Waxman


On Tue, 21 Dec 1999, Tom Pratt wrote:
> According to the notes on the back of the disc, Son
> Boy plans on re-issuing the entire Jihad catalog
> (anyone know what else is there aside from the Sonny
> Murray record?) and unreleased material including a
> session feauring Pharoah Sanders and Albert Ayler

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Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 12:16:53 -0500
From: "Zachary J. Griffin" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: new Sun Ra re-issue

Yes it was.

Ken Waxman wrote:

> Furthermore wasn't "Sunny's Tiem Now" supposed to be reissued by DIW?


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Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 12:12:49 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: new Sun Ra re-issue

In a message dated 12/22/99 12:03:38 PM, [e-mail] writes:

<< What is Son Boy BTW? A Japanese label. And if so, how much will these
Jihads cost? >>

actually, I only looked at the label in the store for a minute yesterday, but
I thought they were based in Washington. and A Black Mass is selling at OM
for $15.99, I'm pretty sure.

and, yes, Sonny's Time Now was recently reissued on DIW.

Jon
www.erstwhilerecords.com

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Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 13:10:29 -0500
From: "Caleb T. Deupree" <[e-mail]>
Subject: chris cutler's science group

Way back in my salad days, I picked up the first Henry Cow album, LegEnd,
simply because it was on the same label as Mike Oldfield and Tangerine
Dream.  I was rapidly hooked on their complex rock music, which I later
discovered was in a named genre all of its own -- RIO Music.  As I followed
Cutler's musical adventure with Recommended distribution, I grew more
impressed with not only his musical skills, but his novel distribution
method of funding new releases by subscription.  His music has remained
committed, complex, challenging, in a way that few others of his generation
have done.

All of this by way of introduction to his latest 'song' release, the
Science Group.  I listened to this for the first time this morning, and it
really took me back, recalling all of the wonderful projects with which
he's been involved, and I sort of wondered why he doesn't get the attention
showered on JZ or Bill Laswell.  Part of it is that he's involved with
fewer releases, but I think part too is because his music is consistently
more challenging than most of Zorn and Laswell's recent work (as discussed
in the recent thread here about the avantgarde-ness of Tzadik).

Be that as it may, Science Group is a tremendous addition to Cutler's
recent song-oriented efforts, following Domestic Stories (1992) and (EC)
Nudes (1994).  His co-conspirators this time include Stevan Tickmayer and
Bob Drake (many different instruments each), with Fred Frith and Amy Denio
doing guitar and vocal work.  Claudio Puntin's presence on clarinets
reminded me strongly of Lindsay Cooper's work with Henry Cow, and
undoubtedly contributed to the sense of continuity I experienced listening
to this release.  Denio's vocals are superb.  She sings in a non-tremolo
tone that recalled Suzanne Lewis's work with Thinking Plague (another Drake
project).  Cutler plays drums and electronics, and he does both with
complete authority.

The style of music on this release is vast.  The opening chaos changes
direction as rapidly as Naked City (although few of the interludes come
from recognizable musical styles, the way it does in NC).  Tickmayer and
Drake double each other on bass and keyboards, with complex, but
hard-hitting melodies.  Sometimes it even briefly sounds like a slightly
demented Yes (with Denio's vocals doing Jon Anderson's duty), but before
long it growls and explodes into something new and unrecognizable.  This is
a fabulous album.

- --
Caleb Deupree
[e-mail]

It is pretty obvious that the debasement of the human mind caused by a
constant flow of fraudulent advertising is no trivial thing.  There is more
than one way to conquer a country.

- -- Raymond Chandler

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Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 23:58:45 -0600 (CST)
From: Whit Schonbein <[e-mail]>
Subject: aube suggestions?

[prelude: from what i gather, aube is akifumi nakajima, who makes
recordings from a certain source (e.g., watter dripping, paper being torn,
etc.) and then creates soundscapes by manipulating these samples in
various ways. each cd or tape or ep or lp features pieces created from
one of these sources.]

i recently acquired 'pages from the book' and am enjoying it quite a bit.
i am interested in hearing other recordings by this artist, but do not
know where to go next.  any suggestions, comments, opinions, etc. would be
appreciated!  Thanks, and happy impending new year.

whit
http://artsci.wustl.edu/~wwschonb/


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Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1999 17:55:24 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: upcoming Tzadik releases

from the Tzadik web site (www.tzadik.com):

- -----------------------------------
Tzadik January 2000 Releases =20
=20
COMPOSER SERIES   Peter Garland: The Days Run Away  =20
One of America=92s true maverick composers, a friend of Partch, Nancarrow, C=
age=20
and countless others, Peter Garland is a tireless champion of new music, a=20
passionate writer and one of the true unsung pioneers of minimalism. These=20
evocative early piano pieces create hypnotic moods of impressionistic beauty=
=20
and are some of his most personal musical statements.=20
Beautifully performed by the brilliant pianist Aki Takahashi, to whom many o=
f=20
his works have been dedicated, this is an incredibly gorgeous CD of=20
rediscovered masterpieces from the early days of minimalism. =20

George Lewis: Endless Shout  =20
One of the world=92s leading composer/performers presents a dynamic collecti=
on=20
of his most important recent works. Professor, musical scholar, author,=20
composer, virtuoso trombonist and computer music genius George Lewis has bee=
n=20
a major name in new music since the mid =9270s, having worked with just abou=
t=20
everyone you can imagine, but his recorded output has been all too rare. Thi=
s=20
first release for Tzadik highlights the wide variety of his compositional=20
approaches, with music for creative music orchestra, soloist with interactiv=
e=20
computer systems, narrator with tape and a suite for solo piano.  =A0=20

ARCHIVAL SERIES =20

 John Zorn: Lacrosse  =20
Dating from 1977 Lacrosse contains the first recordings of Zorn=92s infamous=
=20
game pieces. Featuring two all-star groups including guitarists Eugene=20
Chadbourne, Henry Kaiser and Davey Williams, the music here sets the tone fo=
r=20
much of what was to come=97sharp contrasts, block changes, unusual=20
juxtapositions, instrumental virtuosity and a personal approach to=20
composition, improvisation, sound, silence and color. Previously available i=
n=20
the lavish 7-CD box set The Parachute Years, these seminal recordings are no=
w=20
made available in separate issue.=20
The complete sessions on two CDs, including a rare alternative version,=20
outtakes, photos, the original and new liner notes and more. Multiple=20
versions of the same piece highlight the versatility of Zorn=92s approach to=
=20
composing for improvisers. These are the recordings that prompted the critic=
s=20
to ask "Just what is John Zorn=92s Theatre of Musical Optics and why is it=20
pertinent to these discs?"  =A0=20

Tzadik February 2000 Releases=20
 =20
COMPOSERS SERIES   Ikue Mori: Moonsongs  =20
Ikue Mori=92s career in music reaches back to 1978 as=20
drummer/co-founder/co-composer of the seminal punk/no-wave band DNA. In the=20
=9280s she became involved in the blossoming downtown scene, improvising wit=
h=20
the likes of Bill Frisell, Christian Marclay, John Zorn, Tom Cora, Derek=20
Bailey and countless others. Into the =9290s her work with drum machines=20
expanded into the world of electronic music, incorporating digital technolog=
y=20
into her compositional palette. Moonsongs leads her into the 21st Century=20
with an astounding suite of pieces for a chamber ensemble of voice, strings=20
and percussion, inspired by the work of famous Japanese woodblock artist=20
Yoshitoshi. Moonsongs is clearly one of Ikue Mori=92s greatest works. Lush,=20
romantic, violent, weird, ghostly and exhilarating sounds from one of the=20
world=92s most important musical thinkers. =20

NEW JAPAN   Ayuo: Izutsu  =20
Ayuo (whose name translates as Fish-Light) is one of the most enigmatic=20
figures in Japan, as unique a figure as Moondog, Sun Ra or Haino Keiji, with=
=20
whom he occasionally collaborates. Ayuo=92s music is a delicate balance of=20
world music traditions, new age, improvisation and classical composition.=20
Drawing upon his love of the Celtic tradition as well as that of Southeast=20
Asia, Indonesia, China and his own native Japan, Izutsu has a charming,=20
mystical quality=97hypnotic, sensitive and alluring. A one-act opera based o=
n=20
an ancient Noh play and scored for Celtic harp, hurdy gurdy, sitar-guitar an=
d=20
traditional Japanese instruments, this is Ayuo=92s masterpiece. Timeless mus=
ic=20
from one of Japan=92s maverick individualists who has been walking his own p=
ath=20
without compromise for over twenty years. =20

- -----------------------------------

Jon
www.erstwhilerecords.com

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