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From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest)
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Subject: Zorn List Digest V2 #755
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Zorn List Digest Tuesday, September 14 1999 Volume 02 : Number 755
In this issue:
-
Jimmy Giuffre echo problem
Masada at Tonic
Re: we
Bobby Previte
Re: Bobby Previte
has anyone heard Rev Frizzell
Re: Bobby Previte
Re: has anyone heard Rev Frizzell
Korekyojin
Louis Hardin ["Moondog"] is dead
Haino U.S. Live Dates
Re: Korekyojin
Painkiller in SF
Re: Paincauser in SF
re: we
btw. ruins
Cuadernos De La Habana
Bungle's touring again
re: giuffre free fall: weird
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 00:09:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ryan Novak <ryan_novak@yahoo.com>
Subject: Jimmy Giuffre echo problem
>At any rate, I am disappointed to hear a
strange"pre->echo" on the solo
>clarinet performances. In moments of silence, I
>canhear the disembodies
>echo of what is ABOUT TO BE PLAYED. Is this a
>flukewith my CD, or an
>uncorrectable problem w/ original tapes, or was
>itbadly remastered?
Not familiar with this Giuffre person but the
"pre-echo" you mention sounds like print-through. I'm
not an expert, but when a reel of tape gets wound it
is obviously resting against other parts of itself,
and if the tape was wound too tightly and/or had high
recording levels it can transfer the signal slightly
because it is magnetic after all. That's my best
guess. Can't really think of any other way that would
happen.
- ---Ryan Novak
__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
- -
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Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 12:06:18 -0400
From: jls@tonic107.com (John Scott)
Subject: Masada at Tonic
John Zorn's Masada will be playing at Tonic on Thursday, September 30 at
9:00pm. Tickets are $20 and are currently available at Tonic or
www.ticketweb.com. Zorn will also be playing a seperate set at 10:30pm with
Andy Haas and Fly.
Tonic
107 Norfolk Street, NYC
www.tonic107.com
212-358-7501
- -
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Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 12:27:46 +0200
From: Stephen Fruitman <stephen.fruitman@idehist.umu.se>
Subject: Re: we
>anyone got any opnions on the new "we" album: square root of negative one?
>.........their first album got a lukewarm report from a friend.
Everything is so relative. I myself thought _As Is_ was brilliant, and that
_Square Root_, though somewhat less inspired, is a terrific illbient
soundsculpturing erratic-beated piece of work. Then again, many fans of
their first CD have let me know they consider _Square Root_ to be a major
letdown.
An interesting fact I learned from one of the members of We is that, while
they only had roughly a couple of weeks to put together _As Is_, sleeping
in the studio, etc., they were allowed the luxury of many, many months time
to prepare _Square Root_. Perhaps _too_ much luxury....?
Stephen
- -------------------------------------------------------
Bj=F6rn Olsson,
Inst. f=F6r id=E9historia,
Ume=E5 universitet
901 87 Ume=E5
tel. 090-7867982 fax 143374
e-post: bjorn.olsson@idehist.umu.se
- -
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 09:45:29 -0400
From: Alan E Kayser <aek1@erols.com>
Subject: Bobby Previte
<!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en">
<html>
Sweetnighter Productions is back in action after a short hiatus for the
birth of Anna Katharine. We are happy to announce:
<p>BOBBY PREVITE & LATIN FOR TRAVELERS
<br>Tuesday, October 12
<br>New Market Cabaret
<br>2nd & Pine Sts
<br>215-925-3769
<br>Sets at 8 & 9:30
<br>Tickets $10, one drink minimum ($3)
<p>Advance tickets from Sweetnighter Productions 215-665-1170.
<p>Visit Bobby's website at <a href="http://www.bobbyprevite.com">http://www.bobbyprevite.com</a><a href="http://www.bobbyprevite.com"></a>
<p><br CLEAR=BOTH>
Thanks
<br>Alan
<br>Sweetnighter Productions</html>
- -
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 16:46:20 -0400
From: philz <zampino@squidco.com>
Subject: Re: Bobby Previte
>BOBBY PREVITE & LATIN FOR TRAVELERS
>Tuesday, October 12
>New Market Cabaret
>2nd & Pine Sts
>215-925-3769
>Sets at 8 & 9:30
>Tickets $10, one drink minimum ($3)
Is this in Anytown, USA?
philz
- -
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Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 20:07:28 -0400
From: Lang Thompson <wlt4@mindspring.com>
Subject: has anyone heard Rev Frizzell
Since apparently every album ever made is known to at least one Zorn List
member, is the following from the Wayside catalog worthwhile:
ANAL MAGIC & REVEREND DWIGHT FRIZZELL-Beyond The Black Crack (UK) $15.00
This reissues a very rare & very weird home-made album, originally
released in '76. "[This was] the concept of Rev. Dwight Frizzell, a
musician, film maker, Doctor Of Metaphysics &
minister in the Universal Church Of Life. It remains...one of the most
unique listening experiences in
modern experimental music. Recorded between 1974-76...[it] is a dark,
dizzying & exhilarating journey through free jazz, electronics &
environmental sound, all shattered by Frizzell's radical tape editing."
Includes a good chunk of bonus material too.
LT
- ----------------------------------------------
Lang Thompson
http://www.tcf.ua.edu/wlt4
Full Alert Film Review (formerly World Cinema Review)
http://wlt4.home.mindspring.com/fafr.htm
- -
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 20:21:46 -0400
From: "Alan Lankin" <lankina@att.net>
Subject: Re: Bobby Previte
> >BOBBY PREVITE & LATIN FOR TRAVELERS
> >Tuesday, October 12
> >New Market Cabaret
> >2nd & Pine Sts
> >215-925-3769
> >Sets at 8 & 9:30
> >Tickets $10, one drink minimum ($3)
>
> Is this in Anytown, USA?
It's in Philadelphia, PA, USA...
Alan
http://home.att.net/~lankina/jazz/sweetnighter
- ---------------------------------------------
Alan Lankin
lankina@att.net
Jazzmatazz
http://home.att.net/~lankina/jazz
http://home.att.net/~lankina/jazz/newjazz.html <-- recent jazz CDs
http://home.att.net/~lankina/jazz/upcomingcds.html <-- upcoming jazz CDs
- -
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 21:00:01 EDT
From: JonAbbey2@aol.com
Subject: Re: has anyone heard Rev Frizzell
In a message dated 9/12/99 8:07:21 PM, wlt4@mindspring.com writes:
<< is the following from the Wayside catalog worthwhile:
ANAL MAGIC & REVEREND DWIGHT FRIZZELL-Beyond The Black Crack (UK) $15.00 >>
yup, this is one of the three superb and obscure reissues put out in the last
year by Clive Graham's Paradigm label, the other two being Brast Burn and
Karuna Khyal. all three were primarily known for years for being part of the
infamous Nurse With Wound list, included by Steven Stapleton on the first NWW
record, Chance Meeting On A Dissecting Table Of A Sewing Machine And An
Umbrella (1979).
the list consists of nearly 300 artists, some well known (AMM, Can, Yoko
Ono), and some stunningly obscure (Food Brain, Min Bul, Tamia). the
accompanying text merely says "Categories strain, crack and sometimes break,
under their burden--step out of the space provided...". it's a pretty
remarkable list, especially given that it was compiled twenty years ago. the
complete list of bands is here:
http://www.brainwashed.com/nww/links.html
Jon
www.erstwhilerecords.com
- -
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 01:48:26 -0400 (EDT)
From: William York <wyork@email.unc.edu>
Subject: Korekyojin
Has anyone else heard this (recent Ruins side project on Tzadik)? I'm
listening to this for the first time, and its pretty unbelievable. Not as
prog as the Ruins, a lot more improv oriented (within song
structures), totally manic and relentless. This guitarist (Kido Natsuki)
is prety great, he uses a clean tone and has sort of a stabbing style and
is all over the place. I guess this might drive some people crazy in
terms of how frantic and spastic it is, but it's worth looking into, I
think, even if (like me) you're not a Ruins fanatic.
WY
- -
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 15:41:54 +0200
From: "Stephane Vuilleumier" <vuilleumier@micro.biol.ethz.ch>
Subject: Louis Hardin ["Moondog"] is dead
Guess he was a Zorn hero so
- -----Original Message-----
From: lmc <postmaster@lmcltd.demon.co.uk>
To: thewire@onelist.com <thewire@onelist.com>
Date: Montag, 13. September 1999 14:36
Subject: [thewire] Louis Hardin ["Moondog"] is dead
:From: lmc <postmaster@lmcltd.demon.co.uk>
:
:Louis Hardin aka Moondog died Wednesday night at his home in Germany. He
:was 83 years old.
:
:---------------------------------------------
:London Musicians' Collective Limited
:3.6 Lafone House, 11-13 Leathermarket Street, London SE1 3HN
:Tel: 0207 403 1922
:Fax: 0207 403 1880
:http://www.l-m-c.org.uk
:---------------------------------------------
:TheWire List Info Page: http://www.msu.edu/user/forddavi/wirelist.html
- -
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 12:38:06 -0400
From: David Keffer <keffer@planetc.com>
Subject: Haino U.S. Live Dates
It has been brought to my attention that I posted some bad
information to the zorn-list earlier. It has been corrected:
7 November (Sun) - Haino solo supported by ZACK FULLER (dance), JEFF ARNAL
(percussion) - WILLIAMSBURG ART & HISTORICAL CENTER (TEL 718-486-6012) -
Williamsburg, NY
Earlier, I erroneously wrote Williamsburg, VA instead of Williamsburg, NY.
David K.
http://www.planetc.com/users/keffer/haino/
- -
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 12:49:06 -0400
From: "Daniel L Brown" <DLB7@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: Korekyojin
Yes! I've heard it - actually I bought it about 2 weeks ago and haven't
been able to take it out of my stereo. This album is definitely the best
thing Tzadik has released this year (along with the Dion McGregor CD), and
it is going on my early short list for best album of the year. Yeah, I
really think it's that good. A lot of hype has been tossed up about the
guitarst in this group, but to be honest, all three members are immensely
talented musicians (Yoshida Tatsuya: drums, Nasuno Mitsuru: bass, Kido
Natsuki: guitar)
I must admit, I thouroughly enjoy anything associated with Yoshida and Ruins
is me favorite band, but this album is excellent even if that wasn't the
case. There's 12 tracks, three of them are short complete improvs (a little
over a minute each) and the other 9 are full-scale rock songs written solely
by Yoshida. It's still prog-ish, but certianly not as "out there" as Ruins
is. There's still planty of those quick time changes that Yoshida loves so
much, and the addition of a third instrument for this band helps the times
changes stand out even more than they do with Ruins. The song "Out Of Head"
is worth the price alone.
I certianly hope Yoshida makes this group a full-time working band and not
just another side project. This band has loads of potential.
Dann Brown
> Has anyone else heard this (recent Ruins side project on Tzadik)? I'm
> listening to this for the first time, and its pretty unbelievable. Not as
> prog as the Ruins, a lot more improv oriented (within song
> structures), totally manic and relentless. This guitarist (Kido Natsuki)
> is prety great, he uses a clean tone and has sort of a stabbing style and
> is all over the place. I guess this might drive some people crazy in
> terms of how frantic and spastic it is, but it's worth looking into, I
> think, even if (like me) you're not a Ruins fanatic.
- -
- -
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 09:52:37 -0700
From: pjm <pjm@memes.com>
Subject: Painkiller in SF
Here is an email i got from NoMeansNo World HQ regarding the New Years show
people have been asking about here...
cheerio
pjm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
NoMeansNo is now confirmed on NY Eve at the Design Center in San=20
Francisco. Greg Werckman is the promoter. His email address is below.=20
I will be in Europe for the next week attending Warren Ellis' wedding=20
(Dirty 3, Bad Seeds), so please do not respond to my email address as I=20
won't be online.
luvyall, see ya on NY Eve!
laurie
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
On 03 Sep 1999 18:58:08 GMT, werckman@aol.com (Werckman) wrote:=20
Hey everyone! It is confirmed ! Mr.Bungle will be hosting a millenium=20
New Years bash!!!!=20
At the Design Center in San Francisco. Only 2000 tickets available. $60=20
a ticket. Make plans now!!!! Tickets go on sale Tuesday Sept 7th. The=20
show will not be advertised for a few weeks so our Internet fans have=20
first shot. Book flights and hotels now!!!!!=20
To order tickets go to: ticketweb.com or call Slim's at 415-255-0333=20
(they will fax you a credit card order sheet)=20
Ipecac Recordings and Slim's Presents=20
Mr.Bungle-confirmed=20
Melvins - maybe
Nomeansno - confirmed
Fant=F4mas - maybe=20
John Zorn's Painkiller - maybe=20
The Kids of Widney High- maybe=20
Lineup to be confirmed next week! But it will be great fun no matter=20
what the final lineup is!!!!!!!!!!
- -
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 10:37:47 -0700
From: s~Z <keithmar@jetlink.net>
Subject: Re: Paincauser in SF
> On 03 Sep 1999 18:58:08 GMT, werckman@aol.com (Werckman) wrote:
>
> It is confirmed ! Mr.Bungle will be hosting a millenium New Years bash!!!!
So...uh...sweetheart...I've got a great idea for the perfect way to
spend the eve of the year 2000........
Ah....honey....I'm on call New Years Eve this year and I'd hate to ruin
your celebration...how 'bout if you plan something with your friends and
I....I'll....just sit here by the phone sacrificially handling Y2K
emergencies....?
Ahem....dear....since you planned New Years Eve LAST year....isn't it my
turn THIS year?
Shit.
- -
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 05:46:50 -0400
From: pic nic <lefauxhulot@hotmail.com>
Subject: re: we
you wrote:
> anyone got any opnions on the new "we" album: square root of negative one?
> i was meant to be getting a gift for someone when i saw this on sale?
> should i return this or should i just rip the shrink wrap now? their first
> album got a lukewarm report from a friend.
you asked us personal opinions. so, here's my opinion.
we(tm)'s new album is really great! it's a masterpiece of electronic
dance music. (mix of down tempo, drum'n'bass, strange soundscape, with
sound tools donned by various folks incl. eyvind kang.. like the first
album. but you wouldn't recognize him significantly. it's not a
easy-lazy sampling tends to be found in many other electronic pieces by
some other musicians.)
but... i'm not sure what sort of music is your preference. since you're
here, you're more leaning towards experimental jazz or noise?!?
or if you like electronic music but more agressive digital hardcore
stuff? or minimal techno???? (mmm.... well, maybe since you said 'the
new "we" album', you liked their first: as is?!? & you want the opinions
on the new one, compared with the first? - then, let me know. i'll try
to write my personal comparison of the two.)
i "personally" like their music a lot since their approach to exhibit
their highly original sound is very 'un'obvious ('un'show-off;). it's
very sneaky. you can just relax & enjoy, or hop & dance without
realizing the superb work. (& it's just fine to be like that.)
however if you prefer, you can listen to them more carefully... so all
the textures will sink into you fairly deep. it's a pure pleasure.
highly recommended. - pt
ps. here's one review on the net i found..re: square root of minus one.
go to
http://www.nonverbal.com/konketsu/reviews/we/square_root_of_minus_one.html
- -
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 05:52:21 -0400
From: pic nic <lefauxhulot@hotmail.com>
Subject: btw. ruins
btw...
i received the following from sasaki of ruins.
they are touring again! catch them if you can. - pt
> Subject: Ruins Schedule
>
> 10-02 Mandara 2 (kichijoji) Ruins/Mainliner/Sub Archnoid Space
> 10-08 (Oslo) Ruins
> 10-09 Garage (Bergen) Ruins
> 10-10/11 she shrieks (coraboration with danceres and Ruins) Bergen
> 10-22/23/24 she shrieks at Saint Mark Church (New York)
>
> Japanese New Music Festival
> (Ruins,Akaten,ZubiZuva-X,Yoshida solo,Tsuyama solo)
> 10-16 Los Angeles (UCLA)
> 10-17 San Francisco (Cocodrie)
> 10-18 Austin
> 10-19 Chicago (Metro)
> 10-20 New York (Tonic)
> 10-27 Copenhagen (Vega)
> 10-28 Hamburg
> 10-29 Berlin <Maria am Ostbahnhof>
> 10-30 Hannover <Silke Arp Bricht>
> 11-01 Brussel (Ancienne Belgique)
> 11-04 Nantes (Pannonica)
> 11-05 Reims (Mjc Paul Claudel) ou Dijon (Svoboda)
> 11-06 Valenciennes (Structure Ephemere)
> 11-07 Paris (Batofar)
> 11-08 Pau (Ampli)
> 11-09 Bordeaux (Zoobizarre)
> 11-10 Toulouse (Izimobil)
> 11-11 Nimes
> 11-12 Metz (festival des Musiques Volantes)
> 11-13 Villeurbanne (Pezner)
> 11-14 Berne (Reithalle)
> 11-17 Geneve (L'Usine)
> 11-19 Firenze (Flog)
> 11-20 Entracque (Cuneo) Capolinea
> 11-21 Rome (Brancaleone)
> 11-23 Milano (Tunnell)
> 11-24 Trento (Angi)
> 11-25 Zagreb (KSET)
> 11-26 Budapest
> 11-27 Wien (RHIZ)
> 11-29 Prague
>
- -
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 14:06:41 -0500 (CDT)
From: Paul Audino <psaudino@interaccess.com>
Subject: Cuadernos De La Habana
Hello,
Does anyone know anything about the 5CD set of Cuban music titled
_Cuadernos De La Habana_on Winter & Winter. Since I believe that Winter &
Winter is still the only label on Earth not to have a website, finding
info is difficult.
Thanks,
Paul
psaudino@interaccess.com
GROOVE
- ----------
One Nation
- -
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 14:20:53 -0500
From: King Wilson <kingwil@enteract.com>
Subject: Bungle's touring again
Thought some of you may be interested in this. From Alt.Music.Bungle
Mr. Bungle will tour again from October 20 through November 23. Dates
and venues will be posted as they become known. Confirmation is
expected in the following places:
Las Vegas NV, Boulder CO, Columbia MO, Omaha NE, Chicago IL, Cleveland
OH, Columbus OH, Cincinnati OH, Detroit/Pontiac MI on Halloween(!!),
Toronto ON, Montreal PQ, Burlington VT, somewhere in NJ, New Haven CT,
Providence RI, New York NY, Baltimore MD, somewhere in NC, Orlando FL,
Athens GA, Nashville TN, Tulsa OK, Albuquerque NM, Tucson AZ , Los
Angeles CA, and Anaheim CA. (Thanks to Greg Werckman.)
Venues, dates and news will appear here, on the WEB of MIMICRY website
(http://www.humboldt1.com/~mimicry), and on Heather Scott's Bungle
Fever website (http://www.wco.com/~acedia). We can also put you on the
WoM e-mail list and send you updates by e-mail too if you'd like. Just
write us at mimicry@humboldt1.com.
- -
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 17:02:58 -0400 (EDT)
From: Matt Moran <moran@staff.juno.com>
Subject: re: giuffre free fall: weird
My cd copy of Free Fall also has this "pre-echo", which I assumed came off
the original tapes. Maybe some sort of problem from the recording heads
and playback heads bleeding into each other?
- -matt
- -
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