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Zorn List Digest       Monday, September 6 1999       Volume 02 : Number 752



In this issue:
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       Chicago Genius
       Re: muslimgauze (off topic)
       Masada/Chicago/WBEZ
       Re: For Klucevsek Fans
       RE: info please !
       Re: For Klucevsek Fans
       Invitation to join [e-mail]
       Re: info please !
       Juke Box...
       Beefheart and Pekar
       Cobra San Francisco
       music to strip by
       LP auction
       New years with Painkiller and Bungle????
       Re: Juke Box...
       Toure Kunda
       John Cage in RealAudio
       Recent Pelf
       Re: Juke Box...
       DKV
       Cecil Taylor / Elvin Jones Duo Webcast Thursday

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Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 07:13:20 -0700
From: s~Z <[e-mail]>
Subject: Chicago Genius

Sorry if this is old news to the list.

It sure is good news for Ken and Chicago and us.

http://www.macfdn.org/programs/fel/1999fellows/ken_vandermark.htm

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Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 10:46:19 -0500
From: Joseph Zitt <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: muslimgauze (off topic)

On Fri, Sep 03, 1999 at 10:04:40AM -0500, [e-mail] wrote:
>
> Sorry to stray, but a stranger in a record store told me Muslimgauze died. Does
> anyone know details? I have a couple discs I like (Hebron Massacre and a 3",
> name I forget), but I don't know him well, not even well enough to know his
> name. I would appreciate any details of his life, death, work, recording
> recommendations -- even if I'm misinformed about his well being.


From http://pretentious.net/Muslimgauze/memorials.htm :

On December 30, 1998 Bryn Jones (Muslimgauze) was rushed to hospital,
in Manchester, with an unknown illness. It turned out that he had a
rare fungal infection in his blood stream. This infection seriously
depleted his immune system and as is so often the case he developed a
severe case of pneumonia. Ultimately his body could not withstand the
onslaught and on January 14 @ 22:50 GMT Bryn Jones passed away.

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|> "The only thing that is not art is inattention" --- Marcel Duchamp <|
| [e-mail]           http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt |
| Latest CD: Shekhinah: The Presence     http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt |
| Comma: Voices of New Music    Silence: the John Cage Discussion List |

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Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 10:51:54 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Masada/Chicago/WBEZ

Looking forward to going to tonight's Masada performance here at the Chgo
Jazz fest. I'm not surprised, though a little disappointed, that the one and
only act not allowing WBEZ to broadcast their Jazz Fest set this weekend
(which began yesterday) is Masada. Oh well.

Dave Royko

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Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 09:40:42 -0700
From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: For Klucevsek Fans

    Slight correction:

On Fri, 3 Sep 1999 14:50:06 +0200  Stephen Fruitman wrote:
>
> Clipped from the _Vital Weekly_ newsletter:
>
>
> GUY KLUCEVSEK - TRANSYLVANIAN SOFTWEAR (cd on Starkland)
> Starkland - known to me for their Tod Dockstader and Paul Dreshter
> releases - is not the label you expect to release the new
> Klucevsek-cd. But they did. It takes some courage to do so, as this
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^
No, they did not. This record is a reissue (was initially released in 1994 on
John Marks Records).

    Patrice.

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Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 18:43:03 +0200
From: "Artur Nowak" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: info please !

> someone could tell me the Zorn name project including Dave lombardo, bill
> laswell & fred frith (I think).
> Is there any album with such a line up ?

They were supposed to play in Poland this year under the name "Blade
Runner", but this show was cancelled :-( No info about the album...

    __________________________________________________________________
    Artur Nowak [arno AT emd.pl]
    www.emd.pl - Discography of Bill Frisell


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Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 13:20:27 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: For Klucevsek Fans

Speaking of accordion players, I've been listening to Astor Piazzolla's
"Tango: Zero Hour"  Highly recommended.

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Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 23:02:16 -0600
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Invitation to join [e-mail]

Hello,

I would like to invite you to join the jazz_collectors community.

The description of this community is:

This list is for jazz collectors & traders

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If you do not wish to join this community, please ignore this message.


Thanks,

[e-mail]


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Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 07:01:15 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: info please !

In a message dated 9/3/1999 12:51:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [e-mail]
writes:

> > someone could tell me the Zorn name project including Dave lombardo, bill
>  > laswell & fred frith (I think).
>  > Is there any album with such a line up ?

From what Ive heard, they didnt record a whole lot of music, and it may end
up on an upcoming Filmworks CD?

- -Jody

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Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 11:05:08 -0400 (EDT)
From: [e-mail] (Theodorus Klaase)
Subject: Juke Box...

My sister works at a strip joint, and I made her a CD of Naked City and
Zorn songs, and she put the damn thing on the Juke Box!!!  Last night I
had the pleasure of watching beautiful women dance to the likes of
Filmworks tunes, Naked City tunes, and songs from "the Bribe" album!
I also put a couple of tunes from Euclid's Nightmare, believe it or
not...Some from the new Mr. Bungle album too!!!  It's offically the
coolest place in Florida now.


- -Theodorus
 "Where ever I am...I am what is missing"


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Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 09:16:10 -0700
From: dennis summers <[e-mail]>
Subject: Beefheart and Pekar

I heard the NPR report which was actually somewhat slight. If you know
anything about the man and band then you'd know the story. The only news to
me was that apparently Van Vleit has been suffering from multiple sclorosis
or some such disease for the past several years, hence his low profile.

Also for all you completists out there, there is a new comic book (I don't
have it nearby so I don't have a title) by the writer Harvey Pekar (American
Splendor and many jazz reviews). One of the stories is about our man JZ.
Also mentions Bruce Gallenter (sp?) (DMG).

yours in zornocity --ds
***Quantum Dance Works***
****http://members.home.net/dennisqdw****


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Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 12:37:29 +0000
From: "Francisco Fonz-GarcΘs" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Cobra San Francisco

Hi zornlisters

- - COBRA San Francisco Slim's 31/III/98
Anyone knows the line-up?

Thanks in advance


- -- pacofonz
Lista de jazz en espa±ol: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe/jazz_sp



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Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 10:54:36 -0700
From: "Benito Vergara" <[e-mail]>
Subject: music to strip by

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [e-mail]
> [mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Theodorus Klaase
> Sent: Saturday, September 04, 1999 8:05 AM

> My sister works at a strip joint, and I made her a CD of Naked City and
> Zorn songs, and she put the damn thing on the Juke Box!!!

Hmmm... this sounds awfully similar to an e-mail message just reprinted in
last week's Motion Filter about some guy having his stripper girlfriend
dance to Cecil Taylor or something. Is this some kind of trend?

Later,
Ben

np: ali farka toure, "talking timbuktu"

http://www.bigfoot.com/~bvergara/
ICQ# 12832406


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Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 17:21:24 +0800
From: [e-mail]
Subject: LP auction

Please email for details of my current auction list which closes 8 September.

Regards,
Billy



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Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 16:41:27 -0500
From: King Wilson <[e-mail]>
Subject: New years with Painkiller and Bungle????

Anyone know what Zorn is doing for New Years?  the Bungle Fever web site is
listing an unconfirmed show

December 31, 1999 - San Francisco, CA @ The Design Center
(w/[unconfirmed]The Kids of Widney High, Nomeansno,
       Fant⌠mas, Painkiller, & Melvins )


  If this is true.....wow......



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Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 17:45:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: "m. rizzi" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Juke Box...

Theodorus Klaase, demi-God and Icon sez:
>
>My sister works at a strip joint, and I made her a CD of Naked City and
>Zorn songs, and she put the damn thing on the Juke Box!!!  Last night I
>had the pleasure of watching beautiful women dance to the likes of
>Filmworks tunes, Naked City tunes, and songs from "the Bribe" album!

    Hmmm...hearing of the juxtaposition of the Zorns music
    and stripping is interesting and food for much intellectual
    discussion. :)  But what I want to know is, wasn't it
    kind of weird to watch your sister strip at a club?
    Or is this just a Florida thing, and I wouldn't
    understand?

    heh.

    mike

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Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 22:35:06 -0400
From: Brian Olewnick <[e-mail]>
Subject: Toure Kunda

Anyone know what, if anything, is the status of this band nowadays?
Given the scattershot quality and dubious provenance of many of their
past releases, might there be anything else around of the quality of
'Live Paris-Ziguinchor', 'Casamance au Clair de Lune' or 'Amadou-Tilo'?
I know there's a ton of crap avbailable including misleading issues of
old material packaged as new and the last couple of things by the band,
like 'Toubab-Bi', were disappointingly slick. But they once seemed
capable of great things.

Thanks,

Brian Olewnick

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Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 23:00:00 -0700
From: Herb Levy <[e-mail]>
Subject: John Cage in RealAudio

Hi,

List members may be interested in this week's Mappings, my weekly Internet
new music show <http://www.antennaradio.com/avant/mappings/index.htm>,
which focuses on John Cage.  The show is available all week at that URL &
features Imaginary Landscapes #4, Cartridge Music, Seven, Concert for
Piano, Ryoanji, and 101.

Hope you enjoy it.

Bests,

Herb


Herb Levy
[e-mail]



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Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 09:56:43 -0400
From: Brian Olewnick <[e-mail]>
Subject: Recent Pelf

Rabih Abou Khalil    Yara        Enja

A soundtrack to a movie of the same name, this recording is much darker,
less jazzy than last year's fine 'Odd Times'. Here, the instruments
backing Khalil's oud are violin, cello and frame drum and the pieces are
more impressionistic, less improvisatory but still, generally quite
beautiful. To my limited knowledge, Kahlil's work has stayed "confined"
to his own vision, ie, I haven't heard of him working on equal footing
or as a sideman with others, something I'd be very interested to hear as
his own playing is rich and imaginative while being tradition-soaked.

Derek Bailey        Fairly Early w/ Postscripts    Emanem

This had been discussed here a bit already, so I'll only add that, while
this doesn't, imho, rank up with the very best solo Bailey ('Guitar
Solos Vol. 2' & 'Takes Fakes...'), it's well worth knowing to get a
firmer picture of Bailey's methodology and his conversational approach
to improvising.

Caspar Brotzmann    Mute Massaker        Rough Trade

If this had been CB's first release instead of his fifth (?), it might
have been a promising start. But after his last album as leader, the
tremendous 'Home', this can only be seen as a step backwards towards
wider acceptability. He all but explicitly imitates Hendrix (one cut,
'Indians' sounds remarkably akin to 'Tax Free' from the 'Live at
Winterland' lp), tones down his angst (though I suppose one should be
thankful for the lack of overwrought vocalizing) and basically produces
a rambling record that Deadheads might not be too troubled by.
Disappointing.

Morton Feldman        Coptic Light        Argo
            For John Cage        hat [now] art

The Argo release, performed by the New World Symphony conducted by
Michael Tilson Thomas, includes two other works, 'Piano and Orchestra'
and 'Cello and Orchestra' which don't quite hit the spot for me, but
'Coptic Light' is a wonderful piece, an 'orchestra as breathing organ'
work somewhat similar to 'For Samuel Beckett' in that sense. 'For John
Cage' for violin and piano, is a superb late work, typical in that it
feels like it could go on forever, always discovering new, gorgeous
patterns. Highly recommended.

Barry Guy/LJCO        Double Trouble        Intakt
            Portraits        Intakt

Neither of these are new releases (1989 and 1993) and those who know Guy
and the LJCO probably already own them, so I'll simply reiterate my
growing conviction that Guy and this band are producing the finest large
scale jazz-based music this decade. From Guy's fascinating structural
approach (clearly evident in 'Portraits') to his powerful use of
anthemic, African-derived melodies to the incredible range of
ultra-imaginative soloists, this ensemble has all bases covered and then
some. Buy these discs.

Mauricio Kagel        1898/Music for Renaissance Instruments  DG

My first in-depth experience with Kagel, I'm not quite as taken by this
as others have been. The instrumental colors are often fascinating and
beguiling (including a wonderful, unique use of children's chorus on
'1898'), but his compositional approach here seems to me too routinely
shifting from ppp to fff and back, over and over, as if it was the only
way to infuse drama into the process and I'm left with too much of just
an explication of sonorities Kagel finds interesting. He seems to be a
bit fence-straddling between going whole-hog into the pure sounds and
wanting to retain a semi-traditional approach. I'm still interested in
hearing more, though, and will probably pick up 'Exotica' at some point.

Supersilent        4        Rune Grammophone

Pretty good effort by this Scandanavian (Norwegian?) quartet
(?...there's no info provided with the disc) that draws on aspects of
noise improv, drum 'n' bass (I understand all rhythms are in fact
performed live by the band), free jazz improv and a little bit o' prog
rock perhaps. When they get cooking, as on the second track here (tracks
are simply called 4.1 through 4.7) they can really take off. Other
times, they get a little noodly in that omnipresent Miles circa 1970
vein. Worth hearing, though.

Also got the two Oxley reissues, 'The Baptised Traveller' and 'Four
Compositions' (thanks Stefan!), wonderful Brit improv from 1969-70 with
a group including Bailey, Parker and Wheeler. Fine stuff.

Brian Olewnick

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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 10:48:06 -0400 (EDT)
From: [e-mail] (Theodorus Klaase)
Subject: Re: Juke Box...

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My sister is the bartender, not a stripper...


- -Theodorus
 "Where ever I am...I am what is missing"


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Theodorus Klaase, demi-God and Icon sez:
>
>My sister works at a strip joint, and I made her a CD of Naked City and
>Zorn songs, and she put the damn thing on the Juke Box!!!  Last night I
>had the pleasure of watching beautiful women dance to the likes of
>Filmworks tunes, Naked City tunes, and songs from "the Bribe" album!

    Hmmm...hearing of the juxtaposition of the Zorns music
    and stripping is interesting and food for much intellectual
    discussion. :)  But what I want to know is, wasn't it
    kind of weird to watch your sister strip at a club?
    Or is this just a Florida thing, and I wouldn't
    understand?

    heh.

    mike

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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 22:29:19 -0300
From: "Gustavo Broggi" <[e-mail]>
Subject: DKV

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Could anybody give me comments about the DKV Trio?, Sounds it like the =
others Vandermark=B4s projects?
Which is the best cd. to begin?

Thanks in advance

Gustavo (dealing with Yarbles -Burkhard Beins, Martin Pfleiderer, & =
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Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 21:45:16 -0400
From: Steve Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: Cecil Taylor / Elvin Jones Duo Webcast Thursday

Hey all -

Just wanted to send the word out that Cecil and Elvin are playing duets
Tuesday, September 7 through Thursday, September 9 at the Blue Note in
New York City.  Elvin's celebrating his 72nd birthday with his regular
working band for the 9:30 set each night, but the second set each night,
at 11:30 p.m. Eastern Standard Time, Elvin's playing duets with CT.  I
figure I'll try to attend on Tuesday or Wednesday night.  But for those
who can't be here, the Blue Note does live webcasts on Thursday nights
at http://www.bluenote.net - I've never checked this out so I don't know
if it's audio-only or audio and video.  But that's my heads up for
anyone who's interested.

Steve Smith
[e-mail]
NP - Braves whuppin' the Cards, Mark McGuire the last batter up in the
9th - whoops, all gone.  Bouncer to Chipper Jones ends the game...


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