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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 13:35:10 EDT
From: Reaboi@aol.com
Subject: Violin, Violin-Cello
Violin: A great record with Feldman on it is Crispell's "Santuero" (sp?) on Leo, with Gerry Hemmingway and Hank Roberts. That's an all-time improvized favorite.
Also, dig Ray Nance's playing with Duke. He only plays violin on a handful of recordings, but it's killer. I challenge anyone to claim the original Black Brown & Beige was not light years ahead of 1942. It sounds ahead of the Lincoln Center guys today, that's for sure.
Check out the remastered Such Sweet Thunder and Anatomy of A Murder for some nice Nance solos too.
Cello: Picked up the new Ernst Reijseger last week, and it's beautiful as hell. There's a men's choir on it, as well as a percussionist. What a sunny day record, though it gets plenty serious too. Beautiful writing. The production? Stefan Winter does it again.
Cheers,
Dave
NP: One of my favorite records, even years later, "Liberation Music Orchestra."
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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 13:36:34 EDT
From: JonAbbey2@aol.com
Subject: Re: violin (was Tzadik) recommendations
the original query in this thread was:
In a message dated 8/11/99 1:39:48 AM, nothing_grey@yahoo.com writes:
<< I just heard Zeena parkins "Mouth=Maul=Betrayer", this
is another excellent CD by an excellent violinist. >>
although I don't have this record, I'm fairly sure that Zeena Parkins doesn't
play the violin, she plays the harp. so maybe he's really looking for more
electric harp suggestions?
my violin suggestion is Warren Ellis of the Dirty Three, which is an
Australian violin/bass/drums trio. he ranges from beautiful, quiet playing,
to crazy overdriven passages where you think he's going to saw the instrument
in half. all four of their records are very good, but each one gets a bit
mellower. the other two guys are vey good too.
if you want the wildest one, get the first one, Sad And Dangerous (Poon
Village). if you want the mellowest one, get Ocean Songs (Touch and Go). and
if you get to see them live, don't pass it up. Ellis tells hysterical,
drunken stories between songs, and has a whole Jim Morrison/rock star thing
going on. plus, he's a better expectorater than anyone in Major League
Baseball, and he repeatedly proves it, which is way more entertaining than
you'd think.
Jon
www.erstwhilerecords.com
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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:55:42 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jason Walton <nothing_grey@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Speaking of Zorn
Speaking of Derek Bailey, whats up with these Ruins
Cds with bailey on it? I find that weird. I thought
Ruins had 3 Cds out, but then I find out about
"Burning Stone" and this one with bailey, does anyone
have a Ruins discography?
Jason
- --- Larry Marotta <yrral31@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I think "The Big Gundown," his album of Ennio
> Morricone film music, is
> very accessible and a lot of fun. Also, continuing
> to get recordings
> by your favorite side players on this album will
> keep you busy for some
> time.
>
> If you can find it, it is worth hunting down some
> Eugene Chadbourne
> albums with Zorn on it, specifically "There'll Be No
> Tears Tonight" and
> "LSD C&W: The History of the Chadbournes in
> America." Oh yeah, Zorn's
> album "Yankees" with Derek Bailey and George Lewis
> is a good intro into
> some amazing old school free improv
>
> Larry
>
> --- Jason Walton <nothing_grey@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > can anyone recommend Zorn works to me besides
> > "Spillane" and "Godard?" What about his
> filmworks,
> > or
> > book of heads. I wasnt into the bribe, or masada,
> > but
> > love naked city. I found masada and the bribe too
> > "by
> > the numbers" for me. Any suggestions? I do like
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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 14:00:20 -0500 (CDT)
From: benjamin elliot axelrad <beaxelra@midway.uchicago.edu>
Subject: Re: Violin, Violin-Cello
On Wed, 11 Aug 1999 Reaboi@aol.com wrote:
> Violin: A great record with Feldman on it is Crispell's "Santuero" (sp?) on Leo, with Gerry Hemmingway and Hank Roberts. That's an all-time improvized favorite.
>
This one just doesn't do anything for me (although it is interesting to
hear how some of the material is reused on Feldman's solo disc). I'd be
more than willing to trade it.
Speaking of the cello, can anyone recommend albums featuring Martin Schutz
(on electric cello)? I'm especially interested in the
Wittwer-Schutz-Studer album on Intakt (#32) and the Koch-Schutz-Studer
with the Cuban musicians.
Thanks,
Ben
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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 15:10:07 -0400
From: Dan Given <lgiven1@julian.uwo.ca>
Subject: Re: violin
>Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 16:04:19 GMT
>From: "Scott Handley" <c123018@hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: violin (was Tzadik) recommendations
>
>Has anyone mentioned Phil Durrant's electroacoustic solo record SOWARI
>(Acta) yet? A bit sparse to my taste, but unlike anything I've heard,
>anywhere. Chirps and scratches, ambient to abrupt.
Sowari is one of those albums that when I'm in the mood for it, I love to
listen to. But that's not very frequently, it seems. Definitely an
aquired taste.
For starting with Durrant, I would recommend the recent
Butcher/Durrant/Russell trio disc, The Scenic Route, on Emanem. All three
players push the limits of what their instruments can do. They have been
playing together for quite a while, and work with almost telepathic
creativity. One of my favorite albums this year.
There's also a Durrant duet with bassist Alexander Frangenheim called
Further Lock on Frangenheim's Concepts of Doing label. Very quiet and
minimal, and extremely captivating. Worth hunting for.
Dan
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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 15:13:46 -0400
From: Dan Given <lgiven1@julian.uwo.ca>
Subject: Re: Adelhard Roidinger/Dred Scott
>Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 09:08:11 -0400
>From: brian_olewnick@smtplink.mssm.edu
>Subject: Adelhard Roidinger/Dred Scott
>
> Two names not often linked, I'd wager, but yesterday I listened to
> Braxton's '7 Compositions Trio (1989)' (with Roidinger and Tony Oxley)
> and 'Eight (+3) Tristano Compositions' (with a quintet of Jon Rapson,
> Scott, McBee and Cyrille) and was especially impressed by these two.
>
> 1) Any recommendations on Roidinger either as a leader or featured
> player? His work here reminded me a lot of Holland's circa Circle.
>
Roidinger plays with Urs Leimgruber and Fritz Hauser on a Hat album called
Lines. It is my favorite Leimgruber album.
How's the Braxton Tristano album? It is one I don't have, because the time
I did buy it, there was a Pauline Oliveros disc in the case instead.
Should I track it down before it disappears into the Hat void?
Dan
Dan
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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 14:10:51 -0500
From: Dan Hewins <dan@synsolutions.com>
Subject: Re: New Tim Berne/Paraphrase CD
I was wary about the Paraphrase CD because I'm not such a bug fan of
the first one. I much prefer Bloodcount. However, this mini-review
may persuade me to check it out.
I really enjoy the Empire Box. If you like The Ancestors and Mutant
Variations then you'll like the 4th and 5th discs of the set. It's
the same band, just about. The other discs are good too. There is
one with Nels and Alex cline that's pretty rockin'.
Dan Hewins
>I've been listening to this pretty constantly since getting it two days
>ago. It's called "Please Advise" and is Berne with Drew Gress (bass) and
>Tom Rainey (drums). Two LONG tracks - 41 and 25 min. - but they're both
>pretty rockin'. This is all improv but they tend to section things out
>and move into some 'beat-oriented' sections. I guess it's nothing
>radically new from these guys but I still think it's great stuff. I like
>it better than than the previous Paraphase CD.
>
>By the way, does anyone have comments on the Empire Years Box Set?
>
>Thanks,
>
>WY
>
>
>-
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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 15:24:57 -0400
From: brian_olewnick@smtplink.mssm.edu
Subject: Re[2]: Adelhard Roidinger/Dred Scott
>How's the Braxton Tristano album? It is one I don't have, because the time
>I did buy it, there was a Pauline Oliveros disc in the case instead.
>Should I track it down before it disappears into the Hat void?
For my bucks, it's a fine album and that's from someone who's never really
enjoyed the Tristano school very much. It's a killer quintet, obviously romping
through the songbook with relish. On some of the up-tempo, twisting heads, one
can imagine Braxton and Rapson (on baritone) cackling with glee as they
negotiate them. One can also see a direct source of AB's mid-70's boppish
themes. All in all, my favorite of Braxton's 'In the Tradition' releases.
Brian Olewnick
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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 13:01:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: "m. rizzi" <rizzi@netcom.com>
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>At 01:02 PM 8/11/99 +0200, Francesco Martinelli wrote:
>>
>>GB: Phil Butcher and Sylvia Hallett (they play other instruments as wel=
l)
>>Portugal, Carlos Zingaro
>>Holland, Maurice Horsthuis (well, alto) and Ig Henneman
>>Italy: Renato Geremia
>
>Yes, thanks for the tips. This also reminds me of Phil Wachsmann, whose
>work with Gush and the Even Parker ElectroAcoustic Ensemble (among other=
s)
>is excellent.
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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 16:21:22 EDT
From: JonAbbey2@aol.com
Subject: Re: violin
In a message dated 8/11/99 3:14:15 PM, lgiven1@julian.uwo.ca writes:
<< For starting with Durrant, I would recommend the recent
Butcher/Durrant/Russell trio disc, The Scenic Route, on Emanem. All three
players push the limits of what their instruments can do. They have been
playing together for quite a while, and work with almost telepathic
creativity. One of my favorite albums this year. >>
I just bought this, and I'd agree with Dan that this is the place to start
with Durrant on violin much more listenable than Sowari.
my favorite Durrant record is the Wobbly Rail one, where he eschews the
violin entirely in favor of electronically manipulating John Butcher's sax.
one of my favorite albums this year.
Jon
www.erstwhilerecords.com
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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 16:46:12 -0400
From: Mike Chamberlain <mikec@rocler.qc.ca>
Subject: Re: Violin, Violin-Cello
Reaboi@aol.com wrote:
>
> Cello: Picked up the new Ernst Reijseger last week, and it's beautiful as hell. There's a men's choir on it, as well as a percussionist. What a sunny day record, though it gets plenty serious too. Beautiful writing. The production? Stefan Winter does it again.
Big second. Everyone I've played this for loves it. Some of it gives
me chills.
I also really like the Billy Bang Quartet's "Spirits Gathering" on CIMP.
- --Mike
>
STBP: Goldstein, Heward, Weins-Chants Caches
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