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Zorn List Digest        Monday, August 2 1999        Volume 02 : Number 727



In this issue:
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       Re: Feldman disc
       Re: $4.95 CDs: The End
       Re: new release of feldman on avant
       it's About Time
       Re: it's About Time
       Dolphy
       Charlie Mingus, Conlon Nancarrow articles
       toronto
       Re: laptops, etc: electroacoustic practicum
       Mingus
       info on Sunday, August 8th gig @tonic
       Re: Dolphy
       Re: toronto
       buck/horvitz
       Another White Noise update
       zorn improv 7/31
       gigs?
       Re: Ground 0 Last Concert
       Re: zorn improv 7/31
       Re: Dolphy
       Re: zorn improv 7/31

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Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 17:49:36 +0100
From: Nils Jacobson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Feldman disc

Just to second what Patrice said, this is a very nice recording.  I'm not
so sure it's totally composed, but I'd use P's word "seamless" to
describe the connections.  I'm not so much a classical listener, but I
could swear there were a few direct quotes from classical pieces.  Think
debussy/ravel and early 20th century classical.

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Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:53:24 -0700 (PDT)
From: Michael Howes <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: $4.95 CDs: The End

> <<
>  I do take a little comfort in knowing that their attempt at 'promotion'
> seems
>  to have become a public relations nightmare.
>   >>
>
> Similar situation here, I received 1 out of 20 discs I ordered, and the same
> email yesterday. I sent them quite a flaming email back too - one, suggesting
> that I thought a printed receipt was a binding contract and that they're
> nicely set up for a class action lawsuit now, and 2,

 Something is up with what they are doing. Here's why.
I placed 4 orders totaling over 100 CDs.
 I received 1 CD from the first two orders, 3 from the 3rd order and none from the last.

 They keep talking about distributor issues, which I say is a crock of shit. At least 10
of the CDs I ordered are brand new, major label releases. In other words, EVERY DISTRIBUTOR
IN THE WHOLE WORLD HAS THEM. I can walk into any store, chain or not and get these CDs.

 Here is my guess as to what's going on.

 They got a database of releases someplace, offered those CDs, but only had one mediocre
distributor. When they got overwhelmed by orders they realized that to go to a different
distributor(s) meant they would lose tons of money. If they have to pay a distributor $3-6
for each CD yet sell them for $5 odds are they will lose money on it.

 So now they are backing out of their offer. I know their line about not having some of the CDs
I ordered is total bull. Brand new major label releases? I would understand if my whole order
was indie/more obscure releases, which it mostly was, but around 10 were new, easy to find,
major label releases.

 The other strange thing in one of the emails I got from them was that it said they still have
some CDs for sale for $4.99 and to go to their site and buy more??????? HUH!?!?!?!?

 mike
[e-mail]



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Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 20:13:28 -0400
From: Dan Given <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: new release of feldman on avant

>
>On Fri, 30 Jul 1999 23:09:31 +0200  "Stefan Verstraeten" wrote:
>>
>> There seems to be a new release by mark feldman and a piano player on the
>> avant label.
>>
>> Anybody knows what this release is, and what does it sound like?
>
>-
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>116 - MUSIC FOR VIOLIN AND PIANO: Mark Feldman, Sylvie Courvoisier
>
>    Recorded at Clinton Studios, New York City on December 23, 1998
>    (1,8) recorded at Zurich DRS on June 15, 1996
>    Produced by Sylvie Courvoisier and Mark Feldman
>
>  Sylvie Courvoisier: piano; Mark Feldman: violin.
>
>    1999 - Avant (Japan), Avan 065 (CD)
>
>-
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>It is a great record of wonderfully interpreted chamber music. The music, I
>guess totally composed, wanders from post-romantic to more
contemporary/avant,
>and this in an almost seamless way. The range of music genres covered
makes it
>feel like a kind of recital covering 150 years of music, although all
composi-
>tions are by Sylvie and Mark.
>
>    Patrice.
>
 Hmm, for some reason, I was under the impression that there is a lot of
improvising on this album, based on the way that Feldman, in particular,
covers so much ground in each piece.  I may be wrong. Mabybe someone should
ask him.

Anyway, I'll second Patrice's recommendation wholeheartedly.  Courvosier is
new to me, and quite a discovery.  Lots of dense, thundering left-hand,
mixed with upper register tinkling.  Feldman, as I already mentioned,
covers everything, and shows why he has been such a highly sought fter
player.  One track, I can't remember which, subtly brings in his country
roots while still maintaining the contemporary/avant feel.  Beautiful album.

Dan


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Lisa Given
Doctoral Student
Ph.D. Program in Library & Information Science
Faculty of Information & Media Studies
The University of Western Ontario
Middlesex College
London, Ontario, Canada
N6A 5B7
tel: [phone] x8481
fax: [phone]
email: [e-mail]
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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 03:52:12 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: it's About Time

an update to the discussion that was going on here a few weeks back,
regarding the reissues on CD of the About Time label, including some vintage
Threadgill titles.

I was handing in the master and artwork for my first CD today, and I asked
the guy what other labels they handled. he recited a list, and then he said
"About Time". so I asked him about it, and he said they just delivered the
first five CDs to them. so they should be showing up pretty soon, not sure
what titles.

Jon
www.erstwhilerecords.com

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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 07:46:21 -0400
From: Alan E Kayser <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: it's About Time

I have inquired about these discs through Cadence/North Country, only to be
told, "Yes, they have been 'released' but 'no' we don't have them yet and aren't
sure when we will get them."  This has been going on for some time.  Joe Morris
has one of the recordings coming out, with a larger group than he usually uses,
I believe it's a sextet.  Joe told me this was going to be released in January,
1999.  Maybe he meant January, 2000.  There are five albums, the two
Threadgill's, the Joe Morris (hooray) and two others that are unknown to me.
Ronald Shannon Jackson's is not coming out at this time (booo).

Alan E Kayser

[e-mail] wrote:

> an update to the discussion that was going on here a few weeks back,
> regarding the reissues on CD of the About Time label, including some vintage
> Threadgill titles.
>
> I was handing in the master and artwork for my first CD today, and I asked
> the guy what other labels they handled. he recited a list, and then he said
> "About Time". so I asked him about it, and he said they just delivered the
> first five CDs to them. so they should be showing up pretty soon, not sure
> what titles.
>
> Jon
> www.erstwhilerecords.com
>
> -


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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 08:52:28 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Dolphy

LONG-LOST PERFORMANCES BY ERIC DOLPHY
A live concert of saxophone great Eric Dolphy that
leading jazz scholars never knew existed will be
released Sept. 21 by Blue Note Records.

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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 10:58:54 -0400
From: Perfect Sound Forever <[e-mail]>
Subject: Charlie Mingus, Conlon Nancarrow articles

Greetings,

In the latest edition of Perfect Sound Forever
<http://www.furious.com/perfect>, you'll find (among other things):

CHARLIE MINGUS
An appreciation: 1960-1964
<http://www.furious.com/perfect/mingus.html>

CONLON NANCARROW
Personality & polyphony: his life and music
<http://www.furious.com/perfect/conlonnancarrow.html>

We're always looking for good material so let us know if you have any
writing or ideas for upcoming issues.

See you online,
Jason

Perfect Sound Forever
online music magazine
[e-mail]
http://www.furious.com/perfect

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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 14:13:02 -0400
From: wee billy pushkin <[e-mail]>
Subject: toronto

i'm going to toronto later this month to see tom waits, and while i'm
there i would like to stop at a few record stores.  i'm especially
interested in any store that might have a decent selection of japanese
imports.

any pointers are much appreciated.

- -a.


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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 11:19:36 -0700
From: Herb Levy <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: laptops, etc: electroacoustic practicum

While there's no doubt that some of the use of Macintoshes by
composer/performers is a vestigial remnant of the period in the 1980s when
there was virtually no useful music software for PCs of any kind, a
substantial number of the folks who use Macs for real-time electronic work
use software to do things you still can't do on PCs.

For someone who's just running MIDI sequences or playing back digital audio
files, any computer will do.  but for high-end computer-assisted
composing/performing, interactive improvising, etc. the PC world does not
have many options, and those that are available are nowhere near industrial
strength.

The program MAX, which is a remarkably flexible modular program that allows
for extremely complex interactive algorithmic structures - it's used by
lots of folks from Carl Stone to Elliott Sharp - is available for Mac &, I
think, Linux/UNIX, but not for Windows, & it's unlikely ever to get ported
over.The software coming out of STEIM in Amsterdam (LiSa, Lick Macine, etc)
is also Mac only.

Bests,

Herb


Herb Levy
[e-mail]



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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 14:30:07 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Mingus

In the latest edition of Perfect Sound Forever
<http://www.furious.com/perfect>, you'll find (among other things):

CHARLIE MINGUS
An appreciation: 1960-1964
<http://www.furious.com/perfect/mingus.html>

CONLON NANCARROW
Personality & polyphony: his life and music
<http://www.furious.com/perfect/conlonnancarrow.html>

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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 14:45:39 -0400
From: picnic thisway <[e-mail]>
Subject: info on Sunday, August 8th gig @tonic

I received the following press release which some of you might be
interested in...

> IMMEDIATE RELEASE
>=20
> Sunday, August 8th
> @ tonic, 107 norfolk st. (bet. delancey x rivington)
> 212.358.7503 or http://www.tonic107.com
> Adv. Ticket avail @Other Music, 15 E. 4th St. 212.477.8150
> or http://www.ticketweb.com
>
> Special event:[electroluxe] - triple bill! - 8 p.m. sharp=20
>=20
> [electroluxe] presents very special night with various configurations o=
f
> electronic music.
> featuring..
>=20
> =95pita (Peter Rehberg) of mego from Vienna, Austria. (only solo
> appearance in the U.S.!) check also... http://www.mego.at/about.html
> "Peter Rehberg aka Pita's first album, "Seven Tons For Free" was a
> monumental piece which was decisive in the direction that Mego took as =
a
> label thereafter. Devoid of any element of ornamentation, the album
> featured endless repetitions of high frequency digital noises. Quite
> unlike "minimal techno", all the sounds in this piece were reduced to
> pulse signals, distorted to unheard of extremes. Along with albums such
> as Panasonic's "Vakio" and Ryoji Ikeda's "+/-", this album came to be
> known as a manifesto-like masterpiece." ~ note from SONAR '99 by Atsush=
i
> Sasaki
>=20
> =95Ikue Mori & Jim O'Rourke of moikai, Chicago=20
> Two most distinguished & wildest composers/improvisors in the world mee=
t
> here to perform duo, first time ever!=20
>=20
> =95DJ Olive the audio janitor/Toshio Kajiwara/Raz Mesinai
> 3 most influencing composers from underground DJ culture in New York
> found the way to form new project together. This night marks its
> debut!
>=20
> pita & Ikue Mori are recipients of award of distinction from Prix Ars
> Electronica, '99 to be presented in early September, this year.
>=20
> plus... opening muzak by <o>blaat of pitchbrite.
> **********************************************************************
> end.)

p.t.

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Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 00:30:03 +0200
From: "Bza" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Dolphy

Yes and we've got to thank Mr Saul for this one I think !
Bravo Alan

Bza


> LONG-LOST PERFORMANCES BY ERIC DOLPHY
> A live concert of saxophone great Eric Dolphy that
> leading jazz scholars never knew existed will be
> released Sept. 21 by Blue Note Records.
>
> -
>
>

- -

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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 21:03:17 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ken Waxman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: toronto

On Yonge Street the big stores are Tower, HMV and the local Sam The
Record Manb, which is the best , with the best slection. Also try Rotate
This on Queen Street. And ask the folks at Sam's and Rotate if they have
any further suggestions.

Ken Waxman



On Sat, 31 Jul 1999, wee billy pushkin wrote:

> i'm going to toronto later this month to see tom waits, and while i'm
> there i would like to stop at a few record stores.  i'm especially
> interested in any store that might have a decent selection of japanese
> imports.


- -

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Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 14:34:47 +1000
From: "Julian" <[e-mail]>
Subject: buck/horvitz

I read in a brief bio of Australian drummer Tony Buck (Peril, Ground Zero,
The Necks, Kletka Red, etc.) that he had worked with Wayne Horvitz. Does
anyone know what project they may have done together?


- -

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Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 12:19:25 +0100
From: "Scott" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Another White Noise update

WHite Noise has just been updates with a host of events for the forthcoming
Edinburgh Festival and a few new reviews including discs from Kali Records
and Bonehouse.

Thanks for looking.

Scott Russell


White Noise
For experimental events in Scotland
http://www.burntweeny.freeserve.co.uk

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Date: Sun, 01 Aug 99 15:58:00 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: zorn improv 7/31

The improv session at Tonic last night was beautiful -- more jazz driven than
many I've seen (and I think the first time I've seen JZ send the same combo up
twice in a row, with Ikue Mori and Susie Ibarra's duet). High point for me was
Ikue and Larry Och's duo. The ensemble also included JZ, of course, and Brigan
Krauss joining near the end, and a guitarist and bassist I didn't know. Can
anyone provide names? background?

Also, can anyone school me on the fella playing in the Zorn-curated concert at
Castle Clinton this Thursday? I think his name is something like Lois Vlerck (I
don't have my calendar with me, unfortunately). Also on the bill are Leo Smith
and Ikue Mori. Are these solo sets?

Thanx
kg



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Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 00:01:37 +0300
From: "Bumpkin records/Noise Front tapes" <[e-mail]>
Subject: gigs?

Hello, is there any (J. Zorn related) scheduled gigs from 22nd August till
1st September 1999 in the following towns:
- -Amsterdam
- -Stockholm
- -Goetenburg
???

if anybody knows please let me know.
Thanx
K.H.
[e-mail]



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Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 17:27:58 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Ground 0 Last Concert

In a message dated 7/27/99 12:31:08 PM, [e-mail] writes:

<< If you've had a chance to hear this could you please fill us in on how it
is? >>

well, I just played it for the first time, and I like it a lot. it's three
tracks, 72 minutes. the first two, which last about a half-hour, seem to be
in roughly in the style of the first record, albeit with a much expanded
lineup. the last track is a 41 minute version of Consume Red, which sticks to
the original for a while, building slowly around the hojok sample, but ends
up pushing it out much farther than the studio version. a nice way for a band
to go out.

plus, I have the feeling it'll grow on me. it's pretty dense, and a lot to
wrap my head around after one listen.

in other Otomo news, check out the festival he's curating in Austria in
November:

http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/4782/unlimited/deutsch-unltd99/prgvorlmain.htm

Jon
www.erstwhilerecords.com

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Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 22:08:51 -0400
From: Steve Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: zorn improv 7/31

[e-mail] wrote:

> Also, can anyone school me on the fella playing in the Zorn-curated concert at
> Castle Clinton this Thursday? I think his name is something like Lois Vlerck (I
> don't have my calendar with me, unfortunately). Also on the bill are Leo Smith
> and Ikue Mori. Are these solo sets?

Lois V. Vierk is a remarkably interesting post-minimalist composer whose works have
been performed and recorded by Bang on a Can and the Kronos Quartet, among others.
She's one composer who truly seems to be extending the techniques of Steve Reich in
his early phase shift mode, and she also studied Japanese gagaku court music for 12
years.  One choice composition I've heard is "Red Shift," and she also composed the
titular composition on Seth Josel's OO Disc CD "Go Guitars," which I've not heard.

According to her own website at Jim Pugliese's Noise Bar, this will be a
performance of her new string quartet "River Beneath the River, " the title of her
upcoming CD on Tzadik.  Check it out at http://www.webcom.com/jimp/vierk.html

Steve Smith
[e-mail]


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Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 12:18:24 +0200
From: "Jeroen de Boer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Dolphy

Hi,

I took a look at the BlueNote website, but they don't mention
anything. Can you give more info? For instance recording date,
featured musicians etc?

Thanks,

Jeroen



> LONG-LOST PERFORMANCES BY ERIC DOLPHY
> A live concert of saxophone great Eric Dolphy that
> leading jazz scholars never knew existed will be
> released Sept. 21 by Blue Note Records.
>
> -
>
>
Jeroen de Boer
student Arts & Arts Management
University of Groningen, The Netherlands
[e-mail]
program director Open Electronic Festival
Munnekeholm 10
9711 JA Groningen, The Netherlands
phone: [phone]
fax: [phone]
[e-mail]


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Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 10:39:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jeni Dahmus <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: zorn improv 7/31

On Sun, 1 Aug 1999 [e-mail] wrote:
> The improv session at Tonic last night was beautiful -- more jazz driven than
> many I've seen (and I think the first time I've seen JZ send the same combo up
> twice in a row, with Ikue Mori and Susie Ibarra's duet). High point for me was
> Ikue and Larry Och's duo. The ensemble also included JZ, of course, and Brigan
> Krauss joining near the end, and a guitarist and bassist I didn't know. Can
> anyone provide names? background?

I think the bassist was John Lindberg.  Check out: www.johnlindberg.com.

The classical guitarist must have been a replacement for Erik Friedlander.
Since I was looking forward to hearing him, the line-up change was a
disappointment.  I don't know anything about the guitarist.  Due to
the nature of the instrument, much of her playing could not be heard, even
with amplification.  As a classical guitarist myself, this is a constant
frustration.  I would like to hear her in a solo setting.  Does she have
any solo recordings?

Jeni






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