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From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest)
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Subject: Zorn List Digest V2 #725
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Zorn List Digest Thursday, July 29 1999 Volume 02 : Number 725
In this issue:
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Re: Chadbourne
Re: Ribot
Yamantaka Eye
Re: Pino Minafra
Eugene Chadbourne
chadbourne
Sympathetic Vibratory Physics - John W. Keely's Sacred Science.
Re: Pat Martino suggestions? (non Zorny)
TRUMPET GREAT HARRY "SWEETS" EDISON
chadbourne
Review: John Zorn's Masada 'Live in Taipei'
Re[2]: chadbourne
Re: chadbourne
Re: Re[2]: chadbourne
$4.95 CDs: The End
Re: Review: John Zorn's Masada 'Live in Taipei'
Ribot, Bard, Matteen @ The Brecht Forum 8/12
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Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 21:14:46 -0700
From: schwitterz1@juno.com
Subject: Re: Chadbourne
COUNTRY MUSIC IN THE WORLD OF ISLAM
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Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 22:03:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ryan Novak <ryan_novak@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Ribot
I'm a little confused. I love the album titled Shrek
but I don't have the Yo, I Killed... one yet. Seems
like this Shrek group has little to do with what I'm
familiar with (also on Sounds of a Distant Episode).
I was lukewarm about Requiem for What's His Name and
that's what this new one sounds like it's based
around. Who's considered Shrek now?
Thanks,
Ryan Novak
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- -
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Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 01:14:07 -0400 (EDT)
From: Theodorus@webtv.net (Theodorus Klaase)
Subject: Yamantaka Eye
Okay, I know how to pronounce "Yamatsuka,"-- I've heard Zorn himself say
it--but now that he's changed his name....How does one pronounce
"Yamantaka?"
- -Theodorus
"Good bye sober day, Hello Milky Way"
- -
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Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 22:32:59 -0700
From: Martin_Wisckol@link.freedom.com (Martin Wisckol)
Subject: Re: Pino Minafra
Lo siento Hugo -- A lazy effort to express my enthusiasm and delight in
this disc. It hardly fits any of the definitions you offered for my
very approximate wooly. So how about this: Unbridled and whacky. At the
risk of stereotyping, I find the best Italian jazz -- and I consider
this among it -- provides innovation, spontaneous passion and mood in a
package of stylistic flair. There's a delicious tango dedicated to
Federico Fellini, a Spanish bullfight theme, a dandy blues.... The
line-up is three horns plus rhythm section, seriously worked out and
refreshing arrangements, solid and adventurous solos, and Minafra
periodically barking out his distinctive raps (sounding at times like
Roberto Begnini through a bull horn). Highly recommended!
>Martin wrote:
>>Pino Minafra--Sudori [What a fine, fun, wild and wooly CD!]
>What do you mean for "wooly"?
>a)Relating to, covered with wool?
>b)Lacking sharp detail or clarity?
>c)Rough?
>d)Disorganized, unclear?
>Anyway, any more comments?
>Thanks.
>Hugo
- -
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Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 22:42:31 -0700
From: Martin_Wisckol@link.freedom.com (Martin Wisckol)
Subject: Eugene Chadbourne
I take great pleasure in small doses of Chadbourne. Which is perhaps
why I'm partial to his version of Monk's Criss Cross on the Monk
tribute "The Way I Feel Now" (2LP version -- not sure if this made the
stripped down CD version) and, especially, his version of Space is the
Place (complete with midwestern housewife calling into a radio station
featuring Chadbourne live in the studio and commenting on his electric
rake playing) on the very good Sun Ra Tribute, "Wavelength Infinity.''
Martin
np: Diamanda Galas -- The Singer (you haven't lived until you heard
Diamanda's "I put a Spell on You").... Just finished with Los Lobos new
one, This Time, which I think will be spending a lot more time in the
player....
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Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 02:31:57 -0400
From: "lava" <lovevolv@dti.net>
Subject: chadbourne
i always really dug shockabilly, especially
earth vs shockabilly
they were titanic to hear live
cb
then of course there's the rake & plunger
i used to have a tape of "jack johnson rake" but it long ago deteriorated,
actually was eaten by a mysterious mold.....
- -
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Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 03:29:11 -0400
From: "lava" <lovevolv@dti.net>
Subject: Sympathetic Vibratory Physics - John W. Keely's Sacred Science.
looks groovie 2 me
http://www.svpvril.com/
ll.
- -
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Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 03:49:54 -0700
From: ADM <ameyers@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: Pat Martino suggestions? (non Zorny)
Yes! Get Baiyina, the psychedelic, koran influenced one. It is absolutely
excellent. I was turned on to Pat Martino by this album and I believe its my
favorite. If you already like Pat, then there I probably don't need to do much
to convince to buy this, but its a great album. I think the "essential" albums
with Martino as a leader are probably "East!" and "Strings!". I have East! and
its more good stuff. If you are looking for the fusiony stuff, you might wanna
check out Desperado. Pat plays a 12 string guitar, Eddie Green plays electric
piano. Its not as good as Baiyina or East!, but if you see it used, why not?
Also, Pat is a sideman on a Don Paterson album called "Boppin and Burnin" which
is a pretty standard expanded organ trio album. They play Donna Lee and
Epistrophy and some other pretty standard stuff. Probably the least adventurous
Martino you could find, but I still like it.
- -Aaron
Dgasque@aol.com wrote:
> Pardon the off-topic-ness of this, but I picked up a Pat Martino CD today
> titled _First Light_ , a 2 on 1 released recently on 32Jazz that includes the
> LPs _Joyous Lake_ and _Starbright_ . This is my first exposure (that I know
> of) to this guitarist as a leader, and as i'm a sucker for this
> early-to-mid-70s jazz/rock fusion, this CD is a real treat so far.
>
> Any suggestions as to what I should pick up next? I saw one that looked
> interesting- influenced by the Koran- looked fairly psychedelic (yummy...)
>
> =dg=
>
> -
- -
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Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 08:52:19 EDT
From: Nvinokur@aol.com
Subject: TRUMPET GREAT HARRY "SWEETS" EDISON
Harry "Sweets" Edison, a trumpeter whose career spanned
six decades as a distinctive solo artist and invaluable
player for Count Basie, died in Columbus, Ohio after a
battle with prostate cancer. He was 83.
- -
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Date: Thu, 29 Jul 99 10:22:11 -0500
From: kurt_gottschalk@scni.com
Subject: chadbourne
Keffer sez:
His songs (what I heard were protest songs) are lyrically, in my opinion, banal,
one-sided, uninsightful, and annoying enough to overwhelm any urge to listen to
the fine accompanying finger work.
Not to call you to task, but I really disagree about his songwriting. What's
interesting about Chadbourne, though, is the way he comes to different styles
with such fluency. He's much too informed in jazz, free improv, collage, country
and psychedelia, for example, to be considered a dabbler steeped in irony, and
his different records reflect that breadth. Likewise, when he gets into protest
song, he doing it with an informed sincerity.
I agree that there can be something a little embarassing about the most strident
songs by Phil Ochs, Pete Seeger, even early Dylan (well, maybe not Dylan). And
I'm not really sure why I at times find singers spouting views I agree with
embarassing, but yeah, there is something about stridency that can be, well,
awkward.
But I really think Eugene is up with the best of them (well, maybe not Dylan) in
protest song. And, at times, he's more clever and more effective in his use of
humor. And I still walk around singing a song about a hypocritical preacherman
that I just heard him play once ("I think the Lord will give the credit/to the
sinners who admit it/to the sinners who are proud of it" -- does anyone know if
that's recorded somewhere?).
At his best, he'll wander solo stream of thought from a long-form improv to
Peggy's Blue Skylight to Apartment #9 to See Emily Play. He's got way more
recordings than I'll ever hear, but unfortunately I haven't found the one that
reporesents all of that yet.
kg
- -
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Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 10:33:17 -0800
From: Jason Tors <jtors@organic.com>
Subject: Review: John Zorn's Masada 'Live in Taipei'
This gave me a hearty laugh.
"And, listen, honk in moderation, man. It's good to honk, but, y'know, be cool
with it. Call me unhip, but I like James Carter, I don't care how many Essence
awards he wins."
- -
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Date: Thu, 29 Jul 99 11:24:14 -0500
From: kurt_gottschalk@scni.com
Subject: Re[2]: chadbourne
"Michael Berman" sez:
In the great chadbourne lyrics thread, of which many are witty, funny and often
'on the mark' in an off the wall way, the lines from "Hippies and Cops" on
'Country Music In the World of Islam' for some reason always stuck in my head.
- -> I've been curious about this album, and also one with a title referring to
country music of australia or nz or something? do these albums come from islamic
and outback musical traditions? were they recorded there? whafor the titles?
- -
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Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 11:19:02 -0400
From: "Michael Berman" <mberman@his.com>
Subject: Re: chadbourne
In the great chadbourne lyrics thread, of which many are witty, funny =
and often 'on the mark' in an off the wall way, the lines from "Hippies =
and Cops" on 'Country Music In the World of Islam' for some reason =
always stuck in my head. (they're funnier in context of course)=20
Hippies and cops/why don't they get together
Hippies and cops/both of them looking for drugs
This is a great album, a strong recommendation,(though there are so =
many that satisfy), but also of course LSDC&W for zorn content.
mb
- -
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Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 12:04:27 -0400
From: "Michael Berman" <mberman@his.com>
Subject: Re: Re[2]: chadbourne
Uh.. the Country Music for the World of Islam (Vol. XV to be exact) is =
part of his 'ethnic series', produced by "UPESCTO" edited for 'The =
International Music Council by the International Institute for =
Comparative Music Series Documentation" .........supposably.. Other =
UPESCTO productions include: =20
Country Music From Southeast Australia (this one on RRRecords)
Biker Music from Southeast Cambodia
Country Music...Islam..vols 1-14
Second and Third World Interrogation Techniques (secret police CDs)
....supposably..
there is no Islamic or far east ethnic music on this album (except one =
cut featuring Bishop Allan Bishop on Moroccan chanter on Perfume of the =
Desert about the poison gas in the air), its all a joke, maybe Chads =
take on the political climate at the time (recorded 1990) concerning =
Bush and the Gulf War. Also, the album art is all Jeff Groenings' Akbar =
and Jeff cartoons who you remember wear fezzes.
by the way, this is a Fundamental Record, SAVE 80. and features Elliot =
Sharp among others.
I would say that it is in an outback setting, but more than likely the =
outback of Greensboro, NC.
mike
- -
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Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 11:26:38 EDT
From: DRoyko@aol.com
Subject: $4.95 CDs: The End
Ah well, ironically, my distrust of "too good to be true" deals became a
self-fulfilling prophecy. It seems that those who jumped quickly upon the
$4.95 deal got much or all of what they ordered. I hesitated, suspicous of a
scam, but finally, after hearing that some folks were actually receiving what
they ordered, I ordered 25 CDs myself.
Well, after receiving 3 CDs a few weeks ago, and numerous attempts to get
some answers from the customer service folks on the phone, this came
yesterday:
>Dear MyShopNow.com Customer,
>This is in regards to your order for music CDs from us.
>Unfortunately, we have had difficulty fulfilling the
>incredible demand for these specially priced CDs.
>Despite having used two, large distributors, not all
>titles we initially offered have been available.
>Because we have been unable to find a source for any
>of the CDs that you ordered and cannot get a commitment
>from our suppliers when they might be available in the
>future, we are canceling your order. This was not an
>easy decision for us to make, but we ultimately feel
>that it is the best choice under difficult circumstances.
>We've also learned from this experience. The good news
>is that we are still offering a selection of CDs at the
>same low price of $4.95 all of which are stocked in our
>own warehouse, ensuring that you will receive any future
>order. We would encourage you to visit our site again
>and look over these selections.
>While we are disappointed that your experience purchasing
>from us has not been ideal, we hope you understand and we
>hope you will continue to shop online with us. Please
>feel free to email us any further questions or concerns.
>Sincerely,
>MyShopNow.com Customer Service
For the record, my orders were of obscure-label as well as major label
classical, jazz and pop/rock. And also, just out of curiosity, I checked
their site to see what their "selection" of $4.95 CDs meant, and it is a
joke. 44 "choices," and you can imagine. . .
I do take a little comfort in knowing that their attempt at 'promotion' seems
to have become a public relations nightmare.
Dave Royko
- -
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Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 08:16:28 -0700
From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <proussel@ichips.intel.com>
Subject: Re: Review: John Zorn's Masada 'Live in Taipei'
On Wed, 28 Jul 1999 21:21:55 -0700 (MST) Corey Marc Fogel wrote:
>
> this article is the worst piece of shit ive ever read. feel free to tell the
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I think that it is a nice way to say it.
Patrice (impressed that Corey spent that time to write down a critic
of such "review" :-).
> author that in their "Yak" response section.
>
> On Wed, 28 Jul 1999 Nvinokur@aol.com wrote:
>
> > http://leisuresuit.net/Webzine/articles/masada_taipei.shtml
- -
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Date: Thu, 29 Jul 99 11:40:21 -0500
From: kurt_gottschalk@scni.com
Subject: Ribot, Bard, Matteen @ The Brecht Forum 8/12
The Brecht Forum
122 West 27th Street, 10th Floor
New York, NY 10001
212-242-4201
www.brechtforum.org
For Immediate Release
Contact:Barbara Burch 718-638-5000 x324, or Andy Comer 212-242-4201
Neues Kabarett at The Brecht Forum features
Marc Ribot, Christine Bard and Sabir Mateen
in a special benefit concert
Thursday, August 12 at 8 pm
122 West 27th Street, 10th Floor
$10-15 sliding scale
for info call 212-242-4201
Guitarist Marc Ribot and drummer Christine Bard will perform solo sets, followed
by multi-instrumentalist Sabir Mateen. All proceeds benefit the Brecht Forum's
new piano.
Marc Ribot began playing as a sideman in New York City in 1978 for such
musicians as jazz organist Jack McDuff and legendary soul shouter Wilson
Pickett. The following year, Ribot joined the Realtones and the Uptown Horns
Band, which worked as a NYC pickup band for Carla Thomas, Rufus Thomas, Solomon
Burke and many others. Ribot began his five year stint as a member of the John
Lurie's Lounge Lizards in 1984, and worked with artists such as Elvis Costello,
Marianne Faithfull and Tom Waits. He continued to explore New Music with Arto
Lindsay, Don Byron, Elliot Sharp, Anthony Coleman, the Jazz Passengers, Evan
Lurie and John Zorn, and composed and recorded his own music with his bands
Rootless Cosmopolitans and Shrek, as well under his own name. His 1996 "Don't
Blame Me," which found a solo Ribot reinventing a number of American standards,
was hailed by The Village Voice's Gary Giddins as "a record filled with savory
and unlikely amusements."
His recent project, Los Cubanos Postizos, interpreting the work of Cuban son
player Arsenio Rodriguez, has received wide acclaim. Also in recent years,
Ribot has worked with Cibo Matto, the late Allen Ginsburg, Phish guitarist Trey
Anastasio's Surrender To The Air project, Atlantic recording artist Madeleine
Peyroux and Patti Scialfa for her upcoming solo album. Ribot also continues to
work with Zorn, playing on his "FILMWORKS" collections, and as a member of his
Bar Kokhba ensemble.
Drawing upon ancient rhythms from around the world, Christine Bard uses drums
to provide deep sonic and rhythmic intensity in her compositions. She also uses
lo-tech electronics attached to her instruments and live processing to pull out
the fundamental harmonics not ordinarily translated to the audience' ear, to
sound as though the instrument were gently played right next to the ear of the
beholder. The result is a deeply resonant and dynamic sound. In her
compositions she creates subtle stasis through sustain which turns to wild leaps
and growls that bring an audience to the edge of their seats.
Using these techniques, Bard has toured Europe seven times. She has played
extensively in New York's downtown club and ambient scene, as well as touring
Japan and the United States. "Bard [played] with aggressive but sharply
calculated trap set textures.One of the more thoughtful drummers on the Downtown
improvisation scene.Bard's drumming employs brain and body equally creating
fine-tuned, piece-specific textures." - Kyle Gann, Village Voice
Bard has recorded, performed and/or collaborated with such artists as Cyro
Baptista, Hamid Drake, David Krakauer, Zeena Parkins, James Pugliese, Marc
Ribot, Bob Ostertag, David Soldier, Norman Yamada, John Zorn, John Cage and
Charlie Haden. She has worked with Shrek, God Is My Co-Pilot, P.W. Shreck,
TrousersVoices of the Moon, Newband, The Harry Partch Ensemble, the Downtown
Ensemble, Bang On A Can All-stars, The Crosstown Ensemble, the Microtonal
Orchestra and the Seattle Symphony. Her current groups include
EassidePercussion, Jim Pugliese's Soultronix, and the ambient electroacoustic
drum and tap duo Pitchbrite. Bard has composed critically acclaimed music for
the Easside Percussion Trio, the Wendy Osserman Dance Company, Jennifer Monson
dance, the experimental music group "Voices of the Moon", soprano virtuosa
Tomassa Eckert and Trousers. She has performed a solo concert at the Freunde
Guter Musik Berlin, and has performed in ensembles at the Saalfelden,
Victoriaville, Taktlos, Greenwich Village and Knitting Factory jazz festivals,
and is a featured percussionist on the Rough Assemblage CD on the Avant label.
Multi-instrumentalist Sabir Mateen (alto, tenor, clarinet, flute) made his
recording debut with Horace Tapscott's Pan African People's Arkestra over two
decades ago. After years of heavy dues paying, Mateen is now a luminous presence
on the American improvised music scene, as part of the One World Ensemble, Tenor
Rising, Sunny Murray's bands, the Raphe Malik Quartet and other free-blowing
enterprises. Mateen is a also a member of TEST, a collective creative
improvising quartet based out of the NYC Underground; figuratively and
literally. They have performed weekly since 1992 in the streets and subway
stations of New York City; filling the commuters various selves with anything
ranging from joy to confusion; flustered looks to looks of revelation; responses
dependant on their own attendant baggage.
"Saxophonist Sabir Mateen emerged on the west coast playing with Horace
Tapscott, and his grasp of the traditions has a similar depth and disregard for
fashion. He has found his own voice, skippy and playful like Ornette, but also
vocalized and ecstatic like the players encouraged by Coltrane. His clarinet is
fluid and soulful; his flute intelligent enough to keep airiness at bay. On
'Running in to the Truth After Chasing a Lie,' his alto darts about like a
lizard on a wall, finding new cavities that glisten with gems, new harmonic
zones to bask in..." - Hi-Fi News & Record Review
Background:
The Brecht Forum is a non-profit cultural and educational center for people
working for fundamental social change and a society that puts human needs first.
Arts events include Neues Kabarett, an avant-garde jazz series; The Gashouse,
featuring radical music and words; Freedom Song, highlighting music from
worldwide national liberation struggles; and monthly art exhibits spotlighting
issues of the day such as the recent Cellscape II, a group show which focused on
incarceration and police brutality.
Upcoming events include Diasporadics, a South Asian Arts Festival, documentary
film screenings and a three-day concert spotlighting the contributions of
innovative women composers. The Brecht Forum has been raising funds to support
the development of its performance space, including the purchase of a new sound
system and a piano.
Next Neues Kabarett:
On August 27 and 28, we will present North Carolina's Eugene Chadbourne, who
will treat New Yorkers to a night of original compositions and a night of his
interpretations of Phil Ochs songs.
- -30-
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