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From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest)
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Subject: Zorn List Digest V2 #684
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Zorn List Digest Tuesday, June 22 1999 Volume 02 : Number 684
In this issue:
-
Freedom is Wings
halana
Re: hat
Re: hathut: the inquisition (long)
Re: hathut: the inquisition (long)
Re: lacy recommendation
Re: Freedom is Wings AKA Hallalujah,Anyway
halana
Re: Zorn List Digest V2 #683
Re: hathut: the inquisition (long)
Re: hathut: the inquisition (long)
Re: Evan Parker
Re: Joe Harriot Double Quartet
Re: halana
Question-more news for lulu,etc.
Re: hathut: the inquisition (long)
new Ground Zero?
Re: new Ground Zero?
Re: hathut: the inquisition (long)
Re: The Boredoms rock DC
New Cibo Matto
Re: Freedom is Wings AKA Hallalujah,Anyway
Re: Future Jazz by Howard Mandel
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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 11:38:31 -0400
From: Glenn_Lea@avid.com
Subject: Freedom is Wings
Has anyone heard this 2-CD Tzadik tribute to Tom Cora yet?
snipped from cdnow site: Performers include: Fred Frith, Kazutoki Umezu, Samm
Bennett, Haruna Ito,
Chris Cochrane, Zeena Parkins, John Zorn, Marc Ribot, Leo Smith, Eugene
Chadbourne, Masaoka Miya, Bob Ostertag, Kramer, Chris Cutler, Richard
Teitelbaum.
Anyone?
- -
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 99 11:59:28 -0500
From: kurt_gottschalk@scni.com
Subject: halana
I bought one issue of Halana and loved it. It's cheap for what you get, but
expensive if you're not going to like it, so if you like the artists listed,
it's worth it. The issue I got (the one before the current, I believe. I think
they do one or two a year) featured Haino, Wm. Parker, Pauline Oliveros and a
couple others. Interview subjects are all on the CD, and the CD featured tracks
not available elsewhere. The interviews are long, intelligent and well
researched. Other issues I've seen haven't drawn me in like William and Haino
did (and wouldn't I like to hear that duet, now that I'm writing the words next
to each other), but that's a mattera taste.
- -
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 11:23:06 -0500 (EST)
From: Jason Caulfield Bivins <jbivins@indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: hat
Hi all,
Yes, shame on the Hat folk for letting the stuff go out of print. It's
true that Uehlinger is supposed to be cranky, pushy, and at times frankly
bizarre; but can they really justify letting go of "Garden," "Willisau,"
and other jewels?
Oh well, here's a brief run-down of some I think are worth getting.
> 6020 DAVID MURRAY / 3 D FAMILY
Vintage late 70s Murray, before he started moving closer to Lincoln Center
territory. Johnny Dyani on bass, and Andrew Cyrille kicks butt on drums. 4
very long pieces, with Murray doing his best Ayler.
> 6057 JOE McPHEE PO MUSIC / LINEAR B
I'm a McPhee hound, and this is one of the better hat releases. Soulful,
lyrical, and intelligent, with the usual suspects (Boni, Jaume, et. al.)
on hand. Uehlinger apparently almost ruined this session for Joe, but it
sounds lovely.
> 6084 GERRY HEMINGWAY QUINTET / SPECIAL DETAIL
This is probably the weakest of Hemingway's hat disc, but it's still quite
good. Strong tunes, overlapping rhythms, and great textures. Don Byron and
Ed Schuller instead of Dresser and Michael Moore here.
> 6102 STEVE LACY / REMAINS
Vintage solo. In my opinion,the best recorded version of the Tao Suite.
> 6113 OLIVER LAKE / ZAKI
One of my fave all-time albums, no shit. Michael Gregory Jackson is a lost
treasure on guitar -- hearing his late 70s stuff makes Joe Morris make
more sense. Jackson was doing it all. Lake is burning here, as is AkLaff.
I really can't say enough about the intensity, the inventiveness, and the
sheer smarts & listening of this trio.
I could write more, but I'll just briefly say that these are also worth
getting. I listen to them all with great regularity, and it's great that
hat released them at all.
> 6126 PAUL SMOKER TRIO / GENUINE FABLES
> 6136 MYRA MELFORD TRIO / ALIVE IN THE HOUSE OF SAINTS
> 6188 JOE MANERI QUARTET / DAHABENZAPPLE
> 2-6189 STEVE LACY TWO, FIVE & SIX / BLINKS
Jason Bivins
- -
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 12:31:37 EDT
From: JonAbbey2@aol.com
Subject: Re: hathut: the inquisition (long)
a little Hat feedback:
<<6057 JOE McPHEE PO MUSIC / LINEAR B>>
the best McPhee record I've heard.
<<6065 ANTHONY ORTEGA / NEW DANCE>>
a great late sixties West Coast little-known alto player, at least on the
evidence of this record.
<<6076 MORTON FELDMAN / FOR BUNITA MARCUS
2-6145 MORTON FELDMAN / PATTERNS IN A CHROMATIC FlELD>>
I believe these are the two Feldman CDs I would suggest for neophytes just
starting to delve into his vast, brilliant catalog.
Jon
- -
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 12:38:30 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ken Waxman <cj649@freenet.toronto.on.ca>
Subject: Re: hathut: the inquisition (long)
Scott:
I've heard (read) good things about some of the other CDs, but the only
one I can recommend unreservedly is:
MYRA MELFORD TRIO / ALIVE IN THE HOUSE OF SAINTS
This is her powerful group with Reggie Nicholson (d) and Lindsay Horner
(b), which really showcases her talent. The disc is also more "pianistic"
and "jazzy" than here more chamber-like Same River Twice work. And, of
course, because there are only three musicians, Myra really gets a chance
to shine in her solos.
One question though. You talk about a "sale". Is somebody having a sale
or has hatArt been sold to someone else? Maybe MCA/Polydor --it hasn't
bought a label for a couple of minutes.
Ken Waxman
cj649@torfree.net
- -
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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 09:42:51 -0700
From: Martin_Wisckol@link.freedom.com (Martin Wisckol)
Subject: Re: lacy recommendation
Nvinokur@aol.com writes:
>From: Nvinokur@aol.com
>Subject: Re: lacy recommendation
>Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 10:04:39 EDT
>Steve Lacy duet album with Gil Evans is recommended.
On Owl -- I have a strong affection for this one as well. I think it's
called Paris Blues.
- -
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 13:09:48 -0400
From: Rich Williams <punkjazz@snet.net>
Subject: Re: Freedom is Wings AKA Hallalujah,Anyway
>Has anyone heard this 2-CD Tzadik tribute to Tom Cora yet?
>
> snipped from cdnow site: Performers include: Fred Frith, Kazutoki
>Umezu, Samm
>Bennett, Haruna Ito,
> Chris Cochrane, Zeena Parkins, John Zorn, Marc Ribot, Leo Smith, Eugene
> Chadbourne, Masaoka Miya, Bob Ostertag, Kramer, Chris Cutler, Richard
> Teitelbaum.
>
A really beautiful set. (The title was changed to
Hallalujah,Anyway) It opens with a solo trumpet piece by Leslie
Dalaba, very poignant, drenched in the natural reverb of a church.
There are 2 Curlew tracks, 2 from his Solo Cello disc, and one each
from Skeleton Crew and Nimal, that were all previously released. Most
of the rest are tribute tracks by his friends and collaborators, and
some live recordings of Tom's later period projects, nicely segued by
Fred Frith. Even though I haven't fully digested both discs, I'd say
its definitely a must own.
- -
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 13:22:02 -0400
From: David Keffer <keffer@planetc.com>
Subject: halana
>
>From: Dgasque@aol.com
>Came across a new periodical (at least for me) in my favorite music shop
>titled "halana" . The magazine was sealed, so I didn't have a chance to
grab
>a peek of the contents inside. Some of the artists included in the 'zine
>(and on the enclosed CD) include Richard Bishop, Ralph Haxton, idBattery,
>Raphael Torel, David Tudor, and Motoharu Yoshizawa. Anyone know more about
>this magazine and if it's worth picking up?
>
Previous issues of this magazine have been fantastic. I haven't read this
issue (probably #4) but this magazine has extremely in-depth interviews and
weird things like short stories by John Fahey, real high-brow theorizing
by Tony Conrad, all neat stuff. The cd that accompanies the mag is also
very fine.
I bet if you buy issue 4, you will like it so much you will go back to the
halana website and get the back issues too.
http://www.halana.com has some of the back issue articles on line.
David K.
- -
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 13:30:23 EDT
From: KruciFly@aol.com
Subject: Re: Zorn List Digest V2 #683
In a message dated 6/21/99 11:35:19 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com writes:
<< his week Kock is re-issuing two Joe Harriot albums:
The Joe Harriot Double Quartet - _S/T_
Harriot Mayer Double Quartet - _Indo-Jazz Fusions_
>>
the indo jazz fusions is fantastic but has a lot of drawn out portions, a
little long maybe....more indo than jazz. good though.
ben
- -
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 17:58:49 GMT
From: Scott Handley <c123018@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: hathut: the inquisition (long)
As far as I know, HatHut is safe (and government sponsored w/ Nazi
gold----that was a joke, for the befuddled and outraged). They are,
however, only printing rather limited quantities of all the new Hatology and
Hatnow discs, cutting down on the number of essays/languages represented in
each, and deleting much, if not all, of their back catalog. If I won the
lottery, after buying a house, I would start a Hat/FMP/PoTorch/ESP reissue
house.
- ---s
>One question though. You talk about a "sale". Is somebody having a sale
>or has hatArt been sold to someone else? Maybe MCA/Polydor --it hasn't
>bought a label for a couple of minutes.
>
>Ken Waxman
>cj649@torfree.net
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- -
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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 99 12:49:39 -0500
From: brian_olewnick@smtplink.mssm.edu
Subject: Re: hathut: the inquisition (long)
>6020 DAVID MURRAY / 3 D FAMILY
I'll second Jason's recommendation on this one. Some fine, raucous early DM.
>6038 VIENNA ART ORCHESTRA / CONCERTO PICCOLO
I've never found the recorded VAO stuff to come up to my expectations of them.
Interesting ideas but, generally, murky execution. Their disc of Satie
interpretations is better than others, though.
>6076 MORTON FELDMAN / FOR BUNITA MARCUS
>6107 MORTON FELDMAN / FOR SAMUEL BECKETT
Great stuff, the former solo piano, the latter for chamber ensemble. I can
listen to these things day in, day out.
>6133 TOM JOHNSON / RATIONAL MELODIES
Really nice record; solo pieces based somewhat on mathematical constructs. Wish
Johnson would release more music. Check out his wonderful 'Failing; a Very
Difficult Piece for String Bass' on the first Bang on a Can compilation (CRI).
Brfian Olewnick
- -
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 16:01:44 -0500
From: Nils <jacobson@frodo.mgh.harvard.edu>
Subject: Re: Evan Parker
John Santamaria <d028932c@dc.seflin.org> wrote:
> Recently someone mentioned the name Evan Parker to me. I'm not
> too familiar with him, although I know he plays the sax. Are any of you
> familiar with him, and if so do you know where I would be able to find
> his records?
I think Cadence is the place to get most of the Parker records.
Chronoscope (UK) just re-released his 1978 solo record 'Monoceros,'
which is mind-numbingly brilliant. It's solo soprano with all kinds of
freaky virtuosity, including circular breathing and triple tonguing and
stuff like that. Kind of reminded me of Zorn's 'Classic Guide to
Strategy' when I first heard it, but Monoceros is a different concept.
Not so much humor as raw intensity.
- -
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 16:05:42 -0500
From: Nils <jacobson@frodo.mgh.harvard.edu>
Subject: Re: Joe Harriot Double Quartet
Paul Audino <psaudino@interaccess.com> wrote:
> This week Kock is re-issuing two Joe Harriot albums:
>
> The Joe Harriot Double Quartet - _S/T_
> Harriot Mayer Double Quartet - _Indo-Jazz Fusions_
>
> Any opinion on these?
Indo-Jazz Fusions is the one I've heard. It's very nice. I think the
Wire was ranting and raving about Joe Harriott a couple months back, and
rightly so. The music is more mellow and relaxed than I expected, and
orders of magnitude more interesting than the glam-fusion indo-jazz of
the McLaughlin era. If you dig this stuff, you might want to check out
Warren Senders' group Antigravity for more Indo-Jazz fusion (with a
freer edge).
- -
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 17:27:19 EDT
From: Dgasque@aol.com
Subject: Re: halana
In a message dated 6/21/99 1:20:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
keffer@planetc.com writes:
<< I bet if you buy issue 4, you will like it so much you will go back to the
halana website and get the back issues too. >>
Got a load of responses about this mag, both public and private (thanks all!)
- - so I went and got it. Heck of a magazine for $8, indeed. Haven't jumped
into the CD yet, but the magazine is a very in-depth read with an imaginative
approach to the writing. Lots of "mini" CD reviews in the back, too. Even
the ads are tasteful and informative! Big thumbs up from this buyer. I'm
going to the website for more...
spinning: Jez Lowe and the Bad Pennies- The Parish Notices
=dg=
- -
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 16:37:38 +0000
From: johnzorn <johnzorn@redcouch.com>
Subject: Question-more news for lulu,etc.
Saw the Boredoms in Minneapolis last night...one very nice hour long(no
breaks!) set and then a nice encore....mmm....
anyway, does anyone know where I can find a copy of more news for lulu, or
deadly weapons?(mail order or in the minneapolis area)been looking for
awhile now...any info appreciated
thanks!
- -matt
- -
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 18:59:19 EDT
From: TagYrIt@aol.com
Subject: Re: hathut: the inquisition (long)
In a message dated 6/21/99 11:53:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
c123018@hotmail.com writes:
<<
I would be upset too if someone posted a huge hunk of the HatHut catalog,
but once and for all, especially w/ the impending sale, aI'd like to solicit
public or private responses on Hat stuff I DON'T HAVE (yet). >>
I must have missed something.......WHAT Hat sale?
Dale.
- -
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 21:32:19 -0400
From: "Caleb T. Deupree" <cdeupree@erinet.com>
Subject: new Ground Zero?
The Office Ambience on the Wire's chart list for June includes Ground Zero
Last Concert on Amoebic. Anyone heard this? Comments? Know where to get
one (it's not listed at Forced Exposure, my typical source for Japanese CDs)?
- --
Caleb Deupree
cdeupree@erinet.com
Computers are useless; they can only give you answers
- -- Pablo Picasso
- -
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 02:28:47 EDT
From: JonAbbey2@aol.com
Subject: Re: new Ground Zero?
In a message dated 6/21/99 9:28:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
cdeupree@erinet.com writes:
<< The Office Ambience on the Wire's chart list for June includes Ground Zero
Last Concert on Amoebic. >>
I think this is out in Japan, but I'm almost positive it hasn't made it to
the US yet. I believe that Sachiko brought a few to sell at Victoriaville,
but I didn't see them, and I asked Bruce Gallanter about it yesterday
coincidentally, and he hasn't gotten any in yet.
Jon
www.erstwhilerecords.com
- -
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 13:36:55 GMT
From: Scott Handley <c123018@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: hathut: the inquisition (long)
> I would be upset too if someone posted a huge hunk of the HatHut catalog,
> but once and for all, especially w/ the impending sale, aI'd like to
>solicit
> public or private responses on Hat stuff I DON'T HAVE (yet). >>
>
>I must have missed something.......WHAT Hat sale?
>
>Dale.
This brings up a good point. Hat says they'll be having a big discount sale
on remaining merchandise in July, but Bruce Gallanter knows nothing about it
(understandably----Hat only deals with Cadence, apparently), but the person
answering at Cadence told me Hat single-CDs would be $14. Is that a good
deal? I mean, the on-line joints usually run old Hats for like $12. Not to
be a cheapskate, but...+
- -----s
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------------------------------
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 10:13:18 -0400 (EDT)
From: Brent Burton <bburton@CapAccess.org>
Subject: Re: The Boredoms rock DC
On Mon, 14 Jun 1999, Jeni Dahmus wrote:
> The Boredoms slayed me again last night! They sounded better at the
> 9:30 Club than at the Bell Atlantic Jazz Fest. The sets were similar but
> the DC show was less ambient. There was even a long encore, and for a
> moment I thought there might be a second encore too. I was pleased to see
> an enthusiastic crowd in DC; certainly there were a few doing the DC
> "stand still" but overall people seemed into it.
yeah, it was a good show, but, dammit, when i saw them in '92 or '93
opening for sonic youth in richmond, it was one of the single greatest
live shows i've ever witnessed. gone are the radical stop/starts, tempo
shifts, metallic riffs, fake beat-boxing, etc. losing the other singer
really changed them into a more linear, effects-oriented, tribal band.
they are still definitely worth seeing in this more psychedelic
incarnation and they certainly work up a dense groove. i think the
encore was my favorite part just cause eye actually busted out some insane
old-school screaming, even trading off some throat-shredding with a guy
standing in the front, wearing a man is the bastard t-shirt.
i felt bad for them that they were submitted to the "stand still" --
geez, fuck dc. i'm really sick of that.
b
- -
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 99 16:38:39 -0300
From: hulinare@bemberg.com.ar
Subject: New Cibo Matto
By the way, what about the new Cibo Matto? Are Josh Roseman and Dave
Douglas playing? Opinions?
Hugo
- -
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 22:14:33 -0400
From: Mike Chamberlain <mikec@rocler.qc.ca>
Subject: Re: Freedom is Wings AKA Hallalujah,Anyway
Rich Williams wrote:
>
> >Has anyone heard this 2-CD Tzadik tribute to Tom Cora yet?
> >
> > snipped from cdnow site: Performers include: Fred Frith, Kazutoki
> >Umezu, Samm
> >Bennett, Haruna Ito,
> > Chris Cochrane, Zeena Parkins, John Zorn, Marc Ribot, Leo Smith, Eugene
> > Chadbourne, Masaoka Miya, Bob Ostertag, Kramer, Chris Cutler, Richard
> > Teitelbaum.
> >
>
> A really beautiful set. (The title was changed to
> Hallalujah,Anyway) It opens with a solo trumpet piece by Leslie
> Dalaba, very poignant, drenched in the natural reverb of a church.
> There are 2 Curlew tracks, 2 from his Solo Cello disc, and one each
> from Skeleton Crew and Nimal, that were all previously released. Most
> of the rest are tribute tracks by his friends and collaborators, and
> some live recordings of Tom's later period projects, nicely segued by
> Fred Frith. Even though I haven't fully digested both discs, I'd say
> its definitely a must own.
>
> -
Gotta second this. I was not familiar with Cora (oops!), but it's a
great introduction, and some of the tribute pieces are just gorgeous,
especially Dalaba's trumpet piece and a solo piano piece by Wayne
Horvitz titled Love, Love, Love.
- --Mike
- -
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 22:19:50 -0400
From: Mike Chamberlain <mikec@rocler.qc.ca>
Subject: Re: Future Jazz by Howard Mandel
Paul Audino wrote:
>
> Has anyone read the book "Future Jazz" by Howard Mandel? It apparently
> contains interviews with E# and Zorn, among others.
>
It's about time somebody wrote a book like this. The foreword, which
describe's Mandel's early music listening history in Chicago is just
wonderful writing about appreciating music. Mandel alternates segments
of his 1984 interview with Wynton Marsalis with chapters devoted to some
of Marsalis's contemporaries, in which they talk about how they came up
the way they did, all of which neatly puts the lie to Marsalis's
assertions that 1) jazz is a narrowly defined music with strict
boundaries, and 2) people like Zorn, Murray, Blood Ulmer, etc. don't
know enough about the history of jazz.
- --Mike
- -
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