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Subject: Zorn List Digest V2 #628
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Zorn List Digest Sunday, March 21 1999 Volume 02 : Number 628
In this issue:
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carla bley
RE: just outta curioosity...
Gypsy Music
Re:Radio Bands
innocent, curious question
Re: innocent, curious question
Question about publication (somewhat Zorn-related)
Re: Eyvind Kang
Re: Question about publication (somewhat Zorn-related)
Zony Mash kicked my ass!
Re: Eyvind Kang
Re: Eyvind Kang
new york city
Re: new york city
Chris Cutler NYC gig 3/28
Re: new york city
Re: Metamkine
Spearman, Blues for Falasha
Re: Chris Cutler NYC gig 3/28
new Matchless
Re: new Matchless
Re: new Matchless
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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 09:55:09 EST
From: Tenmk6@aol.com
Subject: carla bley
>Have you heard "Tropic Appetites" as well? That'd be right up your alley
if you like EOTH. Anyway, she just kinda released a new album called
"Fancy Chamber Music" (ECM). I've heard mixed reviews, so I didn't pick
it up. >
no, haven't heard tropic appetites......
g valente's solo on 'blunt object" ( carla bley live) is one of my
favorites.....the " live" album ranks #1 personally for album cover <grin>
bob stewart can also be heard on bley's "elevator over the hill"...
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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 10:44:10 -0500
From: Peter Risser <risser@goodnews.net>
Subject: RE: just outta curioosity...
>> Personally, I think that sounds like entertainment at its finest.
> me too. where can I get tickets?
Sign me up!
It reminds me of the time my aunt said she went to see Pink Floyd back in
the sixties. Apparently Syd Barrett was so whacked (or maybe not, can't
tell with him...) he just stood there the whole concert, pointing at
members of the audience, then strumming his guitar. Strumming and
pointing, pointing and strumming, totally oblivious to the actual concert
that was going on around him.
That's beautiful.
BTW, I like Jerry Reed just fine. I like East Bound and Down and I like
his dog Fred and I like when he gets beat up by bikers in the diner, then
runs over their bikes with his truck. What a great movie.
And if you want great bluegrass pickin', go get the Bad Liver's first album.
Peter
NP: L'Atome - The Golden Age
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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 08:46:59 -0800
From: pjm <pjm@memes.com>
Subject: Gypsy Music
I'm a day or so behind in my Zorn-List reading, but I haven't noticed any
one mentioning the film "Latcho Drom".... Someone mentioned "Gadjo Dilo",
though. Both are great films, but I think I enjoyed the music from Latcho
Drom. It started in the Near East and followed gypsy music to Spain... The
sound track is NEVER far from my CD player
pjm
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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 08:41:46 -0800
From: pjm <pjm@memes.com>
Subject: Re:Radio Bands
>
>Bob Demmon/Astronauts, Colin Wilson, Orchestra Baobab, E.M. Elanka,
>Terauchi Takeshi (sp?), Septic Death, Hellfire, Abe Schwarz, Repulsion,
>Akemi and Jagatera, Extreme Noise Terror, Seige, Sam Fuller, Jerry Reed,
>Roger Williams, Chuck Brown, Yokuza Z. Hiroku
>Extreme Noise Terror, well, they were a metal/punk band from the 80's
>played
>with the KLF at the Brit awards back in 89 (i think), they released a new
>album a while ago on Earache called Retro-bution.
Earache also has some of E.N.T.'s back catalog on CD. They've become more
metal over the years and were more like classic grindcore in the earlier days.
>Septic Death are an old hardcore punk band, they are an inspiration to a lot
>the current lot of "deathcore" bands ala, Integrity, Rancor, Congress. They
>released a number of 7" which are no longer available.
They also did an LP, but I can't remember it's title. I can see Pusheads'
gruesome cover in my head though... Some of their stuff has recently been
re-released on Pushead's Bacteria Sour label I believe.
Also: I was under the impression ( perhaps erroneously?) that the
REPULSION in the RADIO liner notes refered to the British grindcore/metal
band of the same name? On Earache I believe...
PJM
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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 12:06:57 EST
From: XRedbirdxx@aol.com
Subject: innocent, curious question
why are most zorn/tzadik cd's so expensive (esp. masada)???
they're not imports!
~joseph
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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 13:09:08 -0500
From: "Caleb T. Deupree" <cdeupree@erinet.com>
Subject: Re: innocent, curious question
At 12:06 PM 3/20/99 EST, XRedbirdxx@aol.com wrote:
>why are most zorn/tzadik cd's so expensive (esp. masada)???
>they're not imports!
I see Tzadiks in the $13-14 range, hardly what I'd call expensive. OTOH,
Masada CDs are on DIW, which *is* an import, from Japan.
- --
Caleb Deupree
cdeupree@erinet.com
Computers are useless; they can only give you answers
- -- Pablo Picasso
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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 13:05:06 EST
From: Dgasque@aol.com
Subject: Question about publication (somewhat Zorn-related)
On Forced Exposure's weekly email listings (who happen to distribute Tzadik
recordings- there's your Zorn content ;-) ), many of the reviews are credited
to "Hrvatski". Can someone tell me what this is- a magazine or email review
mailer or what? Thanks!
=dgasque=
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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 18:31:28 GMT
From: "johnnnnn schuller" <hotpoopy@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Eyvind Kang
Ken,
I bought Theatre a few weeks ago and at first listen was completely
baffled. I found enchanting yet not very challenging. I admit at first
listen I didn't like it much. A couple of days later, I put on the
headphones and gave it another shot and fell in love with the album. I
find it to be a very beautiful album, but not something for everyone.
As far as Eyvinds other works, my absolute favorites are Sweetness of
Sickness and Dying Ground. I also love the Frisell Quartet album and
Horvitz's 4+1 Ensemble.
I saw some performances of his in Seattle a couple of weeks ago. One
with Frisell, another with Motor Bison and also the Eyvind Kang group.
It is amazing how many diffrent areas he can cover.
Take care,
Johnnnnnnnn
>
>Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 11:36:52 -0500 (EST)
>From: Ken Waxman <cj649@freenet.toronto.on.ca>
>Subject: Eyvind Kang
>
>Hello all:
>
>I just picked up Eyvind Kang's "theater of mineral NADEs" on Tzadik
- --(hey,
>it was on sale for $10.99 [Canadian]) -- and have to admit it wasn't
what I
>expected. For my free jazz tempered ears it sounds pretty M-O-R,
>sort of like some of Moondog's stuff on Columbia. To be honest I figure
>there's about 10 minutes of really challenging music in its 44. Oh
well,
>I can always use it as background music.
>
>Anyone else have an opinion on "theater of ..." and/or Kang's music in
>general.
>
>Nationalist note: according to the most recent CODA, Kang is Canadian
born.
>
>Ken Waxman
>cj649@torfree.net
>
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 13:32:42 -0500 (EST)
From: eric ong <eso200@is5.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Question about publication (somewhat Zorn-related)
> On Forced Exposure's weekly email listings (who happen to distribute Tzadik
> recordings- there's your Zorn content ;-) ), many of the reviews are credited
> to "Hrvatski". Can someone tell me what this is- a magazine or email review
> mailer or what? Thanks!
Hrvatski is a guy actually. He DJ's around the Cambridge/Boston area
sometimes and runs the Reckankreuzungs label (sp?). I probably spend half
of my time divided between NYC and Cambridge, and fortunately have had the
chance to see him play a couple times at various electronica fests. The
times I've seen him, his stuff has ranged from heavy arthouse drum 'n'
bass to noisey ambient. From what I know, he's also done some improv
shows with Chadbourne, etc.
Try the following link:
http://www.tiac.net/users/sheket
BTW, my favorite track from Hrvatski is with Blitter on the "Blip, Bleep
(Soundtracks to Imaginary Videogames)" compilation off Lucky Kitchen.
Others who appear on the comp: Jake Mandell, V/VM, Personal Electronics,
Underwood, Soundcard, Mhar66, etc.
(www.luckykitchen.com).
eric.
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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 18:34:46 GMT
From: "johnnnnn schuller" <hotpoopy@hotmail.com>
Subject: Zony Mash kicked my ass!
Saw Zony Mash the other night in Seattle. They are hotter than ever! Do
not miss them, they are doing a west coast tour right now. If you are
thinking about going, but aren't quite sure, do yourself a favor and
go!!!!!
They flat out kicked my ass!
Johnnnn
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 13:58:24 -0500 (EST)
From: eric ong <eso200@is5.nyu.edu>
Subject: Re: Eyvind Kang
> As far as Eyvinds other works, my absolute favorites are Sweetness of
> Sickness and Dying Ground. I also love the Frisell Quartet album and
> Horvitz's 4+1 Ensemble.
Unfortunately, I haven't heard this Frisell Quartet album with Kang. I'm
wondering, though, does it at all conjure up the pastoral feel of the
Dirty Three when you're listening to it? The reason I ask is that I have
this album by Gabriela called "detras del sol", on which both Kang and
Frisell seem to play a little out of character. I'm aware that both are
talented, versatile payers, but on this Gabriela record, Frisell sounds
especially flexible, loose, and meditative (like Mick Turner) and Kang
tones down into a more folk-y mood (like Warren Ellis). I'm not really a
Dirty Three fan, I'm just wondering, so please e-mail me privately if you
want.
It's funny, though, after reading this recent Frisell interview, in which
the writer commented on how Frisell was a "failed" clarinet player, but
the wooden clarinet sound could still be heard in his guitar playing, I've
never really been able to listen to Frisell in the same way. Which is
probably why his playing on the Gabriela record really stands out to me.
Feeling rather talkative today, sorry!,
eric.
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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 16:49:43 EST
From: JonAbbey2@aol.com
Subject: Re: Eyvind Kang
In a message dated 3/20/99 2:00:10 PM, eso200@is5.nyu.edu writes:
<< Unfortunately, I haven't heard this Frisell Quartet album with Kang. I'm
wondering, though, does it at all conjure up the pastoral feel of the
Dirty Three when you're listening to it? >>
while I never thought of that comparison before, I'd say that there is a bit
of similarity to the more subdued parts of the Dirty Three. the Frisell record
tends to be more controlled, but I could see lumping the two of them together
in a combined review.
and I am a big Dirty Three fan. see those guys live if you get a chance. wow!
Jon
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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 18:23:48 EST
From: XRedbirdxx@aol.com
Subject: new york city
i will be in nyc, for the first time, on monday for a few days. could those of
you residents kindly inform me of any happenings/venues esp. relevant to the
zorn-loving aesthetic---so i don't drown trying to find this info amongst all
the other activity in the city papers, etc.
thanks,
joseph
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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 18:40:37 -0500 (EST)
From: alissa bader <molbloo@interport.net>
Subject: Re: new york city
check out what's happening at alt.coffee, the knitting factory, or tonic.
there are almost always zorn-ish things going on at those places, and I
think you can look up the listings online somewhere. I know the knitting
factory has a website. Try citysearch.com for the rest, maybe?
- --alissa
On Sat, 20 Mar 1999 XRedbirdxx@aol.com wrote:
>
> i will be in nyc, for the first time, on monday for a few days. could those of
> you residents kindly inform me of any happenings/venues esp. relevant to the
> zorn-loving aesthetic---so i don't drown trying to find this info amongst all
> the other activity in the city papers, etc.
>
> thanks,
> joseph
>
> -
>
>
- -
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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 18:45:46 EST
From: JonAbbey2@aol.com
Subject: Chris Cutler NYC gig 3/28
I was asked to post this to the list:
<<And finally at the end of this month, we will be presenting the one
& only CHRIS CUTLER- our favorite drummer & percussionist. Formerly of
Henry Cow, Art Bears & News from Babel the author, Recommended Records
founder and philosopher- will play his first solo gig ever in the US at
Context Studios at 28 Ave. A (bet. 2nd & 3rd Sts.) at 9pm on Sunday March
28th. Also on the bill will be old school member of the early downtown
scene- percussionist Charles K. Noyes- solo & maybe duo with Chris. Ikue
Mori may also join in!! You don't want to miss this one.>>
Jon
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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 17:07:21 -0700 (MST)
From: Corey Marc Fogel <mecorey@imap3.asu.edu>
Subject: Re: new york city
www.tonic107.com
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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 18:23:46 -0800
From: Michael Howes <mhowes@best.com>
Subject: Re: Metamkine
>> And while I'm at it, what are everyone's favorites of the Metamkine
>> series? I have a handful but maybe I'm missing out on something
>> essential...
>
> only have a few of them... I like Jim O'Rourke's "Rules of Reduction" a lot,
>any of his sounds were recorded in France. There's "Unheimlich schoen" by Luc
>Ferrari that I'm not too fond of (it revolves around a feminine voice and
>whispers). "Nameless Victims" by Ralf Wehowsky is OK, but I haven't listened
>to it to much.
I like the Walter Ruttmann the best....
I know nothing about Walter Ruttmann but I thought the "Weekend" piece was
great musique concrete.
I also like the Luc Ferrari and Christine Groult.
mike
mhowes@best.com
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Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 14:03:28 +0200
From: Stephen Fruitman <stephen.fruitman@idehist.umu.se>
Subject: Spearman, Blues for Falasha
Can anyone characterize the _Blues for Falasha_ CD by the late Glenn
Spearman for me? Bear in mind that I have never heard him before, and am a
relatively newbie to avant-jazz and suchlike. Freeform, noisy or melodic
and gentle? In similar territory to Masada, or off on some other tangent? I
see there are also "recitations" by Spearman listed - of what?
Thanks in advance, Stephen
- ---------------------
Bj=F6rn Olsson,
Inst. f=F6r id=E9historia,
Ume=E5 universitet
901 87 Ume=E5
tel. 090-167982 fax 143374
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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 09:36:28 -0500
From: Tom Pratt <tpratt@ctech.smtc.net>
Subject: Re: Chris Cutler NYC gig 3/28
> <<And finally at the end of this month, we will be presenting the one
> & only CHRIS CUTLER- our favorite drummer & percussionist. Formerly of
> Henry Cow, Art Bears & News from Babel the author, Recommended Records
> founder and philosopher- will play his first solo gig ever in the US at
> Context Studios at 28 Ave. A (bet. 2nd & 3rd Sts.) at 9pm on Sunday March
> 28th...
Not exactly Cutler's first U.S. solo show ever as I'll be seeing him three
days earlier in Portland, Maine.
nit-picking...
-Tom Pratt
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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 10:53:00 -0500
From: Tom Pratt <tpratt@ctech.smtc.net>
Subject: new Matchless
There are three new Matchless discs out which I picked up yesterday: a
duet between Kieth Rowe (guitar) and Jeffrey Morgan (alto sax) called
'Dial: Log - Rhythm' (MRCD36), a duet between Eddie Prevost (drums) and
Veryan Weston (piano) called 'Concert, v.' (MRCD37), and a double-disc
by Yoshikazu Iwamoto (shakuhachi), John Tilbury (piano) and Eddie
Prevost (percussion) under the group name Such called 'The Issue At
Hand' (MRCD38).
Kieth Rowe is such a fucking incredible guitarist and his playing on
'Dial: Log - Rhythm' is really top-notch. I had never heard of Jeffrey
Morgan before, but his playing is great too. He sounds very influenced
by aggressive, staccato altoists like Roscoe Mitchell and Henry
Threadgill and really works well with Rowe (a tough task). The disc is
really excellent and maybe my pick of litter. Does anyone know anything
about Jeffrey Morgan?
I haven't had much a chance to listen to listen to the Prevost/Weston
disc but it seems more in the "free-jazz" side of Prevost's work (as
opposed to AMM, his solo disc or most of the duet with Evan Parker).
Prevost is certainly on "drums" rather than "percussion" and Weston is
coming from a more "jazz" angle (as opposed to John Tilbury). The bits
I've listened to so far sound very good but I really haven't given this
one a fair shake yet.
The Such disc is a very interesting line-up which is essentially AMM
with a shakuhachi replacing Kieth Rowe's guitar. There's a lot of space
for extended solo and duo playing in the continuous 2 1/2 hour set.
Yoshikazu's shakuhachi seems to bring Tilbury and Prevost into new
realms of quietness and meditativeness. Tilbury plays very Feldman-esque
but sometimes more melodic like Howard Skempton and is the one to really
take advantage of the solo space. Prevost plays very minimal and
sensitive percussion (he's just incredible). This is beautiful, quiet
stuff. Excellent!
That's all.
-Tom Pratt
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Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 13:53:37 EST
From: JonAbbey2@aol.com
Subject: Re: new Matchless
In a message dated 3/21/99 11:08:48 AM, tpratt@ctech.smtc.net writes:
<< Does anyone know anything about Jeffrey Morgan? >>
he has a duet record on Random Acoustics under the name Pair A' Dice called
Snake Eyes with Joker Nies on midiotics. pretty nice electroacoustic improv,
as I remember.
I picked up these Matchless titles too, but haven't had a chance to listen to
them yet. they also released an older Eddie Prevost record called Continuum.
also, in rerelease news, Chronoscope has just released Evan Parker's
Monoceros, one of his solo soprano records from the '70's.
and I was just told that two recent Derek Bailey reissues are bootlegs and
will probably be pulled from the market soon, the one on Entropy Stereo and
Aida's Call. now, since this news comes indirectly from Henry Kaiser and we
all know how reliable he's been lately on Bailey-related matters, you can take
it for what it's worth. I'm just passing it on. I don't think either of these
releases is particularly essential, FWIW.
Jon
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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 14:03:27 -0500
From: Tom Pratt <tpratt@ctech.smtc.net>
Subject: Re: new Matchless
JonAbbey2@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 3/21/99 11:08:48 AM, tpratt@ctech.smtc.net writes:
>
> << Does anyone know anything about Jeffrey Morgan? >>
>
> he has a duet record on Random Acoustics under the name Pair A' Dice called
> Snake Eyes with Joker Nies on midiotics. pretty nice electroacoustic improv,
> as I remember.
huh... Maybe I'll look into that one. I've liked just about everything I've heard
on Random Acoustics. What nice packaging too, eh?
> I picked up these Matchless titles too, but haven't had a chance to listen to
> them yet. they also released an older Eddie Prevost record called Continuum.
I didn't pick up 'Continuum' because what I've heard of Prevost's free jazz bands
hasn't intrigued me much. Has anyone else found this too? Somebody let me know if
'Continuum' is different.
> also, in rerelease news, Chronoscope has just released Evan Parker's
> Monoceros, one of his solo soprano records from the '70's.
I wish they'd added some extra material to that. It's only about 40 minutes
long... probably very worth it though.
> and I was just told that two recent Derek Bailey reissues are bootlegs and
> will probably be pulled from the market soon, the one on Entropy Stereo and
> Aida's Call. now, since this news comes indirectly from Henry Kaiser and we
> all know how reliable he's been lately on Bailey-related matters, you can take
> it for what it's worth. I'm just passing it on. I don't think either of these
> releases is particularly essential, FWIW.
Thanks for the news. I thought 'Dynamics Of The Impromptu' was pretty good. It's
at least nice to hear more of Trevor Watts' playing. He's pretty under-documented
as far as I can tell.
I just saw at the Forced Exposure new releases section that Fat Cat just released
a split 12" (not a collaboration) of AMM and Merzbow simply entitled 'AMM vs.
Merzbow'. Thought some of you might be interested...
-Tom Pratt
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