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Subject: Zorn List Digest V2 #622
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Zorn List Digest Monday, March 15 1999 Volume 02 : Number 622
In this issue:
-
Re: Sanctuary
Frith (was Re: "gypsy music")
Re: Frith (was Re: "gypsy music")
Re: Naked City's Radio
Maryanne Amacher
Re: Naked City's Radio
about the Cathexis Records label
Re: Recomm?: V. Golia & Jean Derome/live drum n' bass
Re: "gypsy music"
Re: Naked City's Radio
Re: Naked City's Radio II
V. Golia
Re: Naked City's Radio II
great news for (old) Terry Riley lovers
Re: "gypsy music"
RE: VOG
Re: Naked City's Radio
Re: Sanctuary
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Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 13:53:16 +0100 (MET)
From: Geert Buelens <buelens@uia.ua.ac.be>
Subject: Re: Sanctuary
I saw the Sanctuary-show in Antwerp (October). Highlights indeed, and some
new stuff (including a more than brilliant piece to end the show). Dave
Douglas said it's physically impossible to play the whole Sanctuary night
after night on tour. But very worthwhile, o, yes.
geert
- -
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Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 05:03:20 -0800 (PST)
From: Eric Martens <ericmartens@yahoo.com>
Subject: Frith (was Re: "gypsy music")
- ---Christian Heslop <xian@mbayweb.com> wrote:
> Which Fred Frith recordings are essential?
"Guitar solos" is excellent, just for the virtuosity of it. I swear,
sometimes it sounds like he has about six hands. Also the first
Massacre album, "Killing Time," w/ Laswell and Maher.
Eric
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Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 08:47:55 EST
From: Nvinokur@aol.com
Subject: Re: Frith (was Re: "gypsy music")
I've also recommend by Frith "Gravity" and "Speechless" - I think they were on
Ralph records. I'm not what lable they are on now
- -
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Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 09:48:35 -0500 (EST)
From: Brent Burton <bburton@CapAccess.org>
Subject: Re: Naked City's Radio
On Mon, 15 Mar 1999, William York wrote:
> Bob Demmon/Astronauts, Colin Wilson, Orchestra Baobab, E.M. Elanka,
> Terauchi Takeshi (sp?), Septic Death, Hellfire, Abe Schwarz, Repulsion,
> Akemi and Jagatera, Extreme Noise Terror, Seige, Sam Fuller, Jerry Reed,
> Roger Williams, Chuck Brown, Yokuza Z. Hiroku
there's a legendary go-go musician from d.c. named chuck brown.
b
- -
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Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 07:07:14 -0800
From: Herb Levy <herb@eskimo.com>
Subject: Maryanne Amacher
There was some discussion a few weeks back about Maryanne Amacher's Tzadik
CD Sound Characters. This week's edition of my Antenna Radio show
<http://www.antennaradio.com/avant/mappings/index.htm> opens and closes
with tracks from the disc.
The CD is very good giving a pretty broad range of what her work is like,
without being able to present the full intensity of the Music for Sound
Joined Rooms, in which the the sounds & speaker placements interact with
the architecture of specifc spaces to create amazing, physical
reverberence. But, while they don't come across as well as they do in
concerts or installations, the psycho-acoustic effects that she calls "ear
dances" do work over streaming audio (& are even better on the CD itself).
The rest of the show includes electronic pieces by Graciela Paraskevaidis,
Yuji Takahashi, and Beth Anderson.
Bests,
Herb
Herb Levy
herb@eskimo.com
- -
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Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 07:36:44 -0800 (PST)
From: Eric Martens <ericmartens@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Naked City's Radio
- ---William York <wyork@email.unc.edu> wrote:
> Bob Demmon/Astronauts, Colin Wilson, Orchestra Baobab, E.M. Elanka,
> Terauchi Takeshi (sp?), Septic Death, Hellfire, Abe Schwarz,
Repulsion,
> Akemi and Jagatera, Extreme Noise Terror, Seige, Sam Fuller, Jerry
Reed,
> Roger Williams, Chuck Brown, Yokuza Z. Hiroku
I believe the Astronauts were a surf-instrumental group from the 60's.
I saw a used CD reissue (just credited to The Astronauts) of some of
their stuff one time, I think on the same label that did the Ventures
reissues (same format anyway, 2-on-1, cover placement/design/&c looked
the same). I didn't buy it, so of course it was gone the next time I
looked for it.
Eric
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- -
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Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 08:32:02 -0800
From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <proussel@ichips.intel.com>
Subject: about the Cathexis Records label
Found an add for a new label in the April issue of DOWN BEAT:
Cathexis Records
Seven records were listed (already out?):
Cathexis (www.cathexisrecords.com)
SYZYGY: Jim Nolet
Tim Hagans, Reggie Nicholson, etc
KEEPING UP WITH THE JONES': Bill Ware
Brad Jones, Victor Jones, etc
MODERN MEMORY: Rez Abbasi
Gary Thomas, Tim Hagans, Michael Formanek, Tony Moreno
WITH EASE: Scott Lee
CUMBIA DEL NORTE: Greg Ribot
Francisco Navarro, Luis Lopez, Hector Zarzuela, Marc Ribot
JAZZBLUES: Jeff Williams
WHITE PAWS: Rob Henke Group
Does anybody know where this label is coming from (who is behind)?
Thanks,
Patrice.
- -
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Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 08:44:57 -0800
From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <proussel@ichips.intel.com>
Subject: Re: Recomm?: V. Golia & Jean Derome/live drum n' bass
On Sat, 13 Mar 1999 09:11:51 -0800 Dave Trenkel wrote:
>
> Golia's humility is for real, he's one of the nicest musicians I've met.
Almost nothing to add to Dave's excellent list of recommendations.
Golia is also fantastic on (less adventurous for sure, but so enjoyable):
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
*** - REGARDS FROM NORMA DESMOND: Vinny Golia Quintet
Vinny Golia: baritone saxophone; John Fumo: trumpet; Wayne Peet: piano; Ken
Filiano: bass; Alex Cline: drums.
1995 - Fresh Sound Records (Spain), ??? (CD)
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
He sticks to the baritone and produces one of the hottest hard-bop records!
Patrice.
- -
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Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 11:46:12 -0500 (EST)
From: fiona somerset <fsomerse@julian.uwo.ca>
Subject: Re: "gypsy music"
At 10:38 PM 3/14/99 -0800, you wrote:
> A question posted here because of it's small relationship to klezmer...I'm
>on a quest in search of authentic Eastern Europe folk music...much like
and a reply:
I'm really enjoying the Taraf de Haidouks cd that I recently purchased. It
seems that there are 3 cd's under this title, and they are all true
Romanian gypsie (tsiganes) music. The music is sometimes uplifting,
sometimes somber, but all very good and virtuosically played. I have the
second volume, but there is a more recent one, which I intend to pick up
soon.
and now me: I've got the new one, and it's really good too: more
environmental village noise included too (eg dog barking). taraf de
haidouks and also various other eastern european gypsy groups (probably of
varying authenticity) are featured in the film _Latcho Drom_ -- that might
provide some leads.
fff
- -
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Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 11:54:02 -0500 (EST)
From: Ken Waxman <cj649@freenet.toronto.on.ca>
Subject: Re: Naked City's Radio
Willam:
I assume the *Roger Williams* you're looking for is the schlock piano
meister of the 1960s. He recorded for Kapp in the 1950s and 1960s,
turning out such masterworks as "Autumn Leaves" (1955); "Arrivederci
Roma" (1958); and "Lara's Theme" (1966). Kapp is part of Universal Music,
i.e. MCA (now Universal-Polygram) and it probably still has (shudder) some
Williams in its catalogue.
An easier route might be your local used record and tape store. Actually,
considering the sound, the Sally Ann thrift stores may work as well.
Yours in obscurity,
Ken Waxman
cj649@torfree.net
- -
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Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 11:59:21 -0500 (EST)
From: Ken Waxman <cj649@freenet.toronto.on.ca>
Subject: Re: Naked City's Radio II
Ooops sent the reply off too soon.
Re: Jerry Reed. He was a country singer/songwriter of the 1960s and
1970s, whose style mixed rockabilly and novelty tunes. His big hits were
"Amos Moses" and "When You're Hot, You're Hot". He recorded for RCA. The
cavets I cited above for Roger Williams work for him as well.
obscurity forever
Ken Waxman
cj649@torfree.net
- -
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Date: Mon, 15 Mar 99 14:26:37 -0300
From: hulinare@bemberg.com.ar
Subject: V. Golia
At 2:12 PM 3/13/99, Dave Trenkel wrote:
>"Chamber" improvising ensembles: "haunting the spirits inside them...",
>on Music & Arts, with Golia and both Joelle Leandre and Ken Filliano on
>bass is very nice, as is "Triangulation", with George Lewis and Bertram
I didn't second this opinion. I found "haunting..." really boring and
weak; IMHO it looks as if nothing happens throughout the entire
recording. I couldn't get in it.
I'm not saying it's a bad cd and don't want to begin a thread with this,
but it's my feeling; anyway I listened to Golia in an American movie in
a kind of Tarantino mood (can't recall the title now, but I wrote it
anywhere) and he sounded really great with a group; probably his
quintet. BTW, the movie was also fine.
Just my two pesos.
Hugo
- -
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Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 12:14:37 -0500
From: Tom Pratt <tpratt@ctech.smtc.net>
Subject: Re: Naked City's Radio II
Ken Waxman wrote:
> Re: Jerry Reed. He was a country singer/songwriter of the 1960s and
> 1970s, whose style mixed rockabilly and novelty tunes. His big hits were
> "Amos Moses" and "When You're Hot, You're Hot". He recorded for RCA. The
> cavets I cited above for Roger Williams work for him as well.
It sounds like Zorn's interest in him may have been Eugene Chadbourne's
fault...
listening to: Stefan Dill 'Sangre Del Rio' (Norumba): flamenco /
free-improv.
-Tom Pratt
- -
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Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 09:33:26 -0800
From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <proussel@ichips.intel.com>
Subject: great news for (old) Terry Riley lovers
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From: corti@cortical.org (Raymond Gladstone)
Newsgroups: rec.music.ambient
Subject: TERRY RILEY Archive Series. NEW RELEASES
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California Composer Terry Riley launched what is now known as the
Minimalist movement with his revolutionary classic IN C in 1964. This
seminal work provided a new concept in musical form based on interlocking
repetitive patterns. Furthermore, Riley's experimentation with tape-loops,
and improvisation based trance music is substantially relevant today.
Since 1992 Cortical Foundation has been restoring Terry Riley's Archive
with emphasis on recordings from the 1960's.
** New Releases Now Available **
Terry Riley Reed Streams / IN C (MANTRA) (1964-1966 / 1964-1970)
organ of Corti 2
In New York City, 1966, Terry Riley was performing hypnotic keyboard
studies in his loft, and later, venues such as the Electric Circus. REED
STREAMS, Riley's debut record, offers a rare glimpse into Riley's early
trance music for Keyboard and Solo soprano saxophone (respectively,
Keyboard Studies and Dorian Reeds). These highly desirable early
minimalist recordings, unavailable since 1967, have been digitally
remastered from the original tapes.
In addition, a psychedelic big-band version of "In C" (MANTRA) under the
direction of Walter Boudreau recorded in 1970. "In C" can be heard here in
all it's electric, psychedelic glory.
Terry Riley Olson III (1967)
organ of Corti 3
While Riley was rehearsing his cyclic composition "Olson III" with the
teenage students at Nacka School of Music (Sweden), both he and the
students were subjected to fierce musico-political blockading. The final
concert which was held on April 27th at Nacka was absolutely tremendous
and the uproar at the end was a clear indication of the excitements that
the teenagers discovered in the music. Says Riley "I don't stand in front
of the orchestra and keep them busy because that would be against the idea
of what I'm trying to do, because they are all supposed to be phasing.
The music is not conductable, everybody has to join in it themselves".
OLSON III for orchestra and chorus swings like hell.
First time available.
Terry Riley Poppy Nogood and the Phantom Band Volume 1 (1968)
organ of Corti 4
The live recording of Poppy Nogood taken from a 1968 all night concert
titled "Purple Modal Strobe Ecstacy with the Daughters of Destruction" is
the perfect trigger for what anthropologist Jean Rouch called "The Strange
Mechanism", the trance state which most of this decades electronic music
aspires to induce. The immediately and the spectral filigree - the
dervishes summoned during Riley's nocturnal concert - have been faithfully
preserved on this CD -- Richard Henderson, The Wire.
First time available.
For more information, consult:
http://www.cortical.org/spores.html
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Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 10:30:56 -0500
From: Diego Gruber <dgruber@uio.satnet.net>
Subject: Re: "gypsy music"
I'm also a big fan of gypsy music, particularly Balkan, gypsy music
varies from place
to place, being influenced by folk traditions of states such as
yugoslavia and
romania. i was attracted to this kind of music since i saw the
yugoslavian film
'underground', so this has taken me to notice two things: a band called
Fanfare
Ciocarlia (you can get their cd through the Web of Mimicry -the Gallery
of Essentials
section- http://www.humboldt1.com/~mimicry/) and a composer named Goran
Bregovic who
writes the soundtracks for most of Kusturica's movies (underground, time
of gypsies,
arizona dream, etc.). Check out some Real Audios from his film music at:
http://www.komuna.co.yu/muzika/brega/index.html
and there's more yugoslavian music, some written by Bregovic too, at:
http://www.bison.com/zabe/notes1.html
I'm not sure to what extent this is 'real' gypsy music, but in any case,
i find it
trully beautiful. Hope this helped.
Diego
Christian Heslop wrote:
> A question posted here because of it's small relationship to klezmer...I'm
> on a quest in search of authentic Eastern Europe folk music...much like
> Bartok, but I'm buying CD's so authenticity is a little bit more difficult
> to verify.
> I heard a recording a few years ago of some Tzimbalone music. I have no
> idea as to what it's origins were, but it was electrifying.
> Which Fred Frith recordings are essential? I own "Cheap at Half the
> Price". I bought it a few years ago without having any idea then of who he
> was. Only a few days before that incidentally was when I first heard of
> John Zorn. A friend had played a tape of The Big Gundown. The next day I
> sold all of my old cd's.
>
> -
- -
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Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 11:20:01 -0800
From: "Dave Egan" <degan@excell.com>
Subject: RE: VOG
I checked with Toby, Zony Mash's manager and he told me that they had to
change the name from Vog to Ponga. He thought maybe there was a copyright
violation with Vog, but he wasn't 100% sure about that. Anyway, Ponga is
Vog. I heard a pre-release CD and verified that it's the same music as on
the tape a friend made at the show in Seattle last April; you wouldn't know
it was a live album just by hearing it. It's all improvised and fairly
noisy. The lineup is Skerik, Wayne Horvitz, Dave Palmer and Bobby Previte.
I think it's pretty cool and will definitely buy a copy when it's released.
April 6th is the release date last I heard.
- - Dave
- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-zorn-list@lists.xmission.com
[mailto:owner-zorn-list@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of pjm
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 1999 11:08 PM
To: zorn-list@lists.xmission.com
Subject: VOG
Does anyone know if the live VOG (Horvitz/Skerik/ etc..) cd was ever
released? Have they released anything at all?
Thanks
pjm
- -
- -
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Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 08:56:46 +1030
From: "BLA BLA BLA" <isis@wantree.com.au>
Subject: Re: Naked City's Radio
>
>Bob Demmon/Astronauts, Colin Wilson, Orchestra Baobab, E.M. Elanka,
>Terauchi Takeshi (sp?), Septic Death, Hellfire, Abe Schwarz, Repulsion,
>Akemi and Jagatera, Extreme Noise Terror, Seige, Sam Fuller, Jerry Reed,
>Roger Williams, Chuck Brown, Yokuza Z. Hiroku
>
Extreme Noise Terror, well, they were a metal/punk band from the 80's played
with the KLF at the Brit awards back in 89 (i think), they released a new
album a while ago on Earache called Retro-bution.
Septic Death are an old hardcore punk band, they are an inspiration to a lot
the current lot of "deathcore" bands ala, Integrity, Rancor, Congress. They
released a number of 7" which are no longer available.
- -
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Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 17:44:26 -0600 (CST)
From: Saidel Eric J <ejs4839@usl.edu>
Subject: Re: Sanctuary
According to Matthew:
>
> "Main inspirations: John Coltrane's Ascension, Ornette Coleman's Free Jazz,
> Pierre Boulez' Le Marteau sans Maitre, Arnold Schoenberg's Pierrot Lunaire,
> Giovanni Bocaccio's The Decameron and the absurd story of the building of
> the Santa Maria del Fiore Cathedral in Florence, Italy; The cathedral was
> begun in 1294 with the sole intention of surpassing the Siennese and Pisans,
> but its builders had no read idea how such an immense dome could be erected.
> Nonetheless, work continued for 125 years until the problem of the dome
> became critical and potentially embarrassing. After much politicking and
> many bizarre proposals the church and dome were finally completed by
> Fillippo Brunelleschi, who found his solution while wandering amoung the
> ancient ruins of Rome."
>
> Does anyone know more about this last story?
I haven't seen anyone else answer this, so I'll try a bit, although I'm
sure somebody out there knows a lot more about this than I do. (Believe
it or not, what I know is a result of reading about biology.) In any case,
the problem was as the liners say: how to erect and support such an immense
dome. Brunelleschi travelled to Rome to view the ruins and there came
up with the idea of flying buttresses which allowed him to build the
dome, and gave the dome a system of support so that it wouldn't fall.
(yeah, I know, sketchy on the details, but I'm no architect, or student
of architeture; surely there must be one here?) The flying buttresses
also resulted in spandrels - spaces (more or less) in the corners which
afforded room for paintings that were in addition to the main frescos,
and which are now famous in studies of evolution thanks to Stephen Jay
Gould.
- - eric
- -
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