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Zorn List Digest        Monday, March 15 1999        Volume 02 : Number 621



In this issue:
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       Re: Groult
       Re: Groult
       Klezmer link
       Re: Varese
       Sanctuary
       Re:Gig on 3/16
       f-m uitti & e#'s improvisations
       Vision Festival 1999 - The Official Lineup
       Re: Vision Festival 1999 - The Official Lineup
       Radio
       Re: Radio
       Naked City's Radio
       Re: Naked City's Radio
       "gypsy music"
       Re: "gypsy music"
       Re: Metamkine

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Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 13:56:32 -0500
From: "Caleb T. Deupree" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Groult

At 12:40 PM 3/12/99 -0500, Tom Pratt wrote:
>
>And while I'm at it, what are everyone's favorites of the Metamkine
>series? I have a handful but maybe I'm missing out on something
>essential...

I have a half dozen or so, including the Groult (which I also like very
much).  Michele Bokanowski's Tabou and Ralf Wehowsky's Nameless Victims are
both minimal, crunchy pieces.  The Wehowsky Nameless Victims got a whole CD
of remixes on the Tulpas set, which may alter one's opinion of its
essentialness.  Eliane Radigue's Biogenesis is one of her early pieces
(1973), very quiet, which utilizes her baby's heartbeat, occupying a lot of
the same sound world as her recent 3CD Trilogie de la Mort.  Christian
Zanesi's Grant Bruit is much more subtle than the title would suggest, and,
along with Alain De Filippis' Ton Dieu... is more along the lines of
'traditional' musique concrete, like the Groult.

I've also got a compilation on Vand'oeuvre which includes 8 'petites
compositions familiales' by Dominique Petitgand, and I think there is also
a larger collection of these on Metamkine.  The little compositions on this
compilation are *really* tedious, little more than crudely recorded
conversations in French, along with all of the typical background noise
(ringing phones, etc.) that accompanies a day.  Completely non-essential,
almost ruins an otherwise great comp.

- --
Caleb Deupree
[e-mail]

Computers are useless; they can only give you answers
- -- Pablo Picasso

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Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 14:17:07 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Groult

In a message dated 3/13/99 1:53:24 PM, [e-mail] writes:

<< Christian Zanesi's Grant Bruit is much more
subtle than the title would suggest >>

agreed. Zanesi is overlooked many times (by myself also) when listing the
essential musique concrete composers, but everything I've heard by him is
absolutely topnotch. I especially like his CD-EP from last year, Arkheion,
with one 16 minute tribute to Stockhausen, and one 16 minute tribute to Pierre
Schaefer.

some other Metamkines that I like are the ones by Jerome Noetinger (the label
head, I believe), Patrick Ascione, Bernard Fort and Alain De Filippis. I'm not
so keen on the Ferrari or Gunter ones.

the one full-length disc on Metamkine is very good also, although I haven't
played it in a while, Roger De La Frayssenet's Kitnabudja Town. here's the FE
description:

<<ROGER DE LA FRAYSSENET
Title: Kitnabudja Town
Label: METAMKINE (FRANCE)
Format: CD
Price: $19.00
Catalog Number: MKCD XXX
An unexplained sampling collage disc, made up of materials taken from the
music of literally dozens of credited sources: mostly avant composers such as
Henry, Artaud, Bayle, Xenakis, Feldman, Gunter, Schaeffer, Marclay, O'Rourke
etc., as well as figures such as Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan, E. Neubauten, Bob
Marley. Jarringly assembled into 2 long tracks; 70+ minutes total. >>


Jon

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Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 20:15:18 +0100
From: "Thomas Queins" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Klezmer link

http://www.astrakan.hgs.se/~kryp/klezmer.htm



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Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 16:48:05 -0500 (EST)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Varese

Here is the site for the Varese cd.

http://www.zappa.com/MUSIC/varese.html

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Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 10:43:46 -0500
From: "Matthew" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Sanctuary

In anticipation/contemplation of going to see Sanctuary at the Knitting
Factory tom. evening (are there still tickets??), I am curious if anyone has
seen this work performed live before.  How was it? Did they do the 100+
straight, or play highlights, excerpts..  I saw the lineup at the Knitting
site and it says they played Europe - anyone catch these shows?

Also, I read the cd-insert and am somewhat puzzled by the last source of
inspiration listed.
I will include the whole paragraph for those who don't own this work.

"Main inspirations: John Coltrane's Ascension, Ornette Coleman's Free Jazz,
Pierre Boulez' Le Marteau sans Maitre, Arnold Schoenberg's Pierrot Lunaire,
Giovanni Bocaccio's The Decameron and the absurd story of the building of
the Santa Maria del Fiore Cathedral in Florence, Italy; The cathedral was
begun in 1294 with the sole intention of surpassing the Siennese and Pisans,
but its builders had no read idea how such an immense dome could be erected.
Nonetheless, work continued for 125 years until the problem of the dome
became critical and potentially embarrassing.  After much politicking and
many bizarre proposals the church and dome were finally completed by
Fillippo Brunelleschi, who found his solution while wandering amoung the
ancient ruins of Rome."

Does anyone know more about this last story?
What other works can claim the first 5 influences listed? the first four...?

Enjoy the day,
Mat


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Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 10:52:18 -0500
From: fretless6 <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re:Gig on 3/16

Just wanted to let you know that Bob Musso and I will be performing in
NY on Tuesday March 16th atBaby Jupiter- 170 Orchard St corner of
Stanton
212-982-2229 9:30 PM Tickets $5

This group will preview material from Musso's upcoming CD release.

Charles Burnham-violin
Lance Carter-drums
David C Gross-6 string fretless bass, electronics
Toby Kasavan-keyboard
Byard Lancaster-sax
Elliott Levin-sax, flute
Robert Musso-guitar

Thanks!
David C Gross
www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/7773?






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Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 10:53:51 -0600
From: sergio luque <[e-mail]>
Subject: f-m uitti & e#'s improvisations

hello,

i've seen this cd at my local store, i've never heard anything by e#.

what are your opinions about this album?

thanks in advance

sergio luque


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Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 16:20:41 -0500
From: Steve Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: Vision Festival 1999 - The Official Lineup

The first full draft of the Fourth Annual Vision Festival, taking place
May 21-31, 1999.
A full 11 days (expansion)  this year, incorporating two weekends.

Also, New Location:
St. Nicholas Church
10th Street and Avenue A, East Village, NYC

Devoted  to the arts as a borderless, multi-disciplinary terrain where
all things are possible, the Arts for Art foundation presents the Fourth
Annual Vision Festival at St. Nicholas Church  on 10th St and Ave A in
New York City. The festival had been expanded to 11 days running from
May 21-31,1999.

With an expanded program, the festival has continued to grow and this
years lineup of musicians, artists and dancers is the largest and most
diverse to date. Rooted in New York City's Lower East Side community but
developed with a global outreach in mind, the festival will once again
feature unique collaborations between avant-garde jazz musicians,
dancers, poets and visual artists.

FRI  MAY 21
Joseph Jarman Opening Invocation
Sunny Murray Quartet w. Byard Lancaster, Louie Belogenis, Wilber Morris
Cooper-Moore Solo
Alan Silva w. Visions Orchestra
Rob Brown Sextet w. Joe Morris, Karen Borca, Mat Maneri, Roy Campbell,
Gary Joynes
Aleta Hayes dance w. Joelle Leandre

SAT MAY 22
Leroy Jenkins Solo
Marshall Allen and The Arkestra
Roy Campbell's Taz w. Zane Massey, Eugene Cooper, Patrick Polladian,
Reggie Nicholson
Maria Mitchell dance w. Craig Harris, Dean Bowman
Steve Dalachinsky poet

SUN MAY 23
Bill Cole & Joseph Daley
Andrew Lamb Quartet w. Eugene Cooper, Andre Strobert, Warren Smith
Joe Maneri Trio w. Mat Maneri, Randy Peterson + Christine Coppola dance
Rashied Ali Ensemble
Sarah Jones poet

MON MAY 24
David S. Ware Quartet
Mark Dresser Quartet w. Brandon Evans, Denman Maroney, Kevin Norton
Hammiet Bluett + Kidd Jordan
Joan Miller dance w. Cooper-Moore, Michael Wimberly

TUE MAY 25
Zeena Parkins Solo
Thurston Moore + William Hooker
Daniel Carter + Saturnalia w. Jonathan LaMaster, Vick Rowlands, Mike
Bullock, Matt Heyner
J.D. Parran Quartet w. Stephen Haynes, Vejay Iyer, Donald Robinson
Daniel Kinch theatre
Amiri Baraka poet

WED MAY 26
Marilyn Crispell + Mark Dresser + Gerry Hemingway
Thomas Buckner/Roscoe Mitchell/Borah Bergman/Thurman Barker
Joseph Jarman Sextet w. Myra Melford
Arthur Brooks Quartet w. Justin Perdue, Jeremey Harlos, Mathew Westin
Dance: Penny Campbell, Susan Sorbati, Peter Schmitz, Terry Creach

THU MAY 27
Peter Brotzmann Die Like a Dog Quartet
Joelle Leandre + Joe McPhee + Gerry Hemingway
Ori Kaplan Quartet w. Tom Abbs, Andy Bemkey, Geoff Mann
Chris Jonas
David Budbill poet w. William Parker

FRI MAY 28
Milford Graves + John Zorn
Fred Anderson + William Parker + Hamid Drake
Whit Dickey Trio w. Rob Brown, Chris Lightcap
John Blum w. Jackson Krall
Jennifer Muller dance
Daniel Berrigan SJ poet

SAT MAY 29
James Blood Ulmer's Odyssey w. Charles Burnham, Warren Benbow
Noah Howard Quartet w. Sonilius Smith, Wilber Morris, Calyer Duncan
William Parker + Alan Silva + Kidd Jordan
Raphe Malik w. Cody Moffett, Sabir Mateen, Larry Rolland
Louis Reyes Rivera poet

SUN MAY 30
Matthew Shipp + William Parker
David 'Fathead' Newman w. Bryan Carrott, John Menigan, Wenard Harper
Wilber Morris Quartet w. Herbie Morgan, Vincent Chancey, Reggie
Nicholson
Jim Staley w. Phoebe Legere, Ikue Mori
Gus Soloman dance w. Walter Thompson
Nadine Mozon poet

MON MAY 31
The Denis Charles Tribute Drum Choir led by Billy Higgins w. Andrew
Cyrille, Sunny Murray, Warren Smith, Rashied Ali
The Jazz Doctors w. Frank Lowe, Billy Bang, Abbie Radar,  Ed Schuller
Andrew Cyrille Quartet w. Mark Helias, Greg Tardy, Andy Bemkey
Patricia Nicholson dance

VISUAL ARTISTS
Jim Donohue               Jo Ann Wood
Jeff Schlanger            Glenn Ligon
Alain Kirili                  Yuko Otomo
Marcy Rosenberg          Marilyn Sontag
Christine Olshavsky       Robert Janz
Barbara Friedman            Emilio Cruz
Phyllis Lehrer


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Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 16:55:09 -0500
From: Mike Chamberlain <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Vision Festival 1999 - The Official Lineup

Steve Smith wrote:
>
> The first full draft of the Fourth Annual Vision Festival, taking place
> May 21-31, 1999.
> A full 11 days (expansion)  this year, incorporating two weekends.
>
> Also, New Location:
> St. Nicholas Church
> 10th Street and Avenue A, East Village, NYC
>
Steve, what's the scoop on how/where to get tix for us non-NYCers and
approximate (or exact) prices?

- --Mike

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Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 18:00:34 PST
From: "robert ludington" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Radio

I just spotted Naked City's 'Radio' at a nearby Tower Records and
wondered what people's opinions of it were? (At least i think it is that
album, the one with a man in bondage gear on front, a naked woman curled
up on back?) I'm a bit hesitant after paying $20 each for Heretic &
Absinthe, both of which I enjoy, but don't get much play unlike the S/T
Naked City? Any thoughts would be apreciated.
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 22:20:49 -0500
From: "paul marconi" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Radio

- -----Original Message-----
From: robert ludington <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Sunday, March 14, 1999 9:03 PM
Subject: Radio


>I just spotted Naked City's 'Radio' at a nearby Tower Records and
>wondered what people's opinions of it were? (At least i think it is that
>album, the one with a man in bondage gear on front, a naked woman curled
>up on back?) I'm a bit hesitant after paying $20 each for Heretic &
>Absinthe, both of which I enjoy, but don't get much play unlike the S/T
>Naked City? Any thoughts would be apreciated.
>Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
>
i think radio is fantastic. i think the perfect primer 4 naked city is the
"self-titled" cd, closely followed by this. it has a little of every style,
and not all styles r crammed into every song. run, don't walk, u r buying it
now, correct?



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Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 00:08:57 -0500 (EST)
From: William York <[e-mail]>
Subject: Naked City's Radio

This Thursday (3/18) from 9pm until 12pm I'm going to be doing a feature
on the album Radio, attempting to play songs by as many of the artists
mentioned in the "inspirations/refer" section of that album's liner notes.
I think there are 62 (+ 1 book) mentioned.  I think it would be impossible
to play something by every one of these groups, plus at the moment I only
have stuff by about 45 of them.  But I'm going to try to fit in as many as
possible, so if anyone wants to listen the address is www.wxyc.org/.

Also, if anyone could suggest where I might find stuff by any of the
following, I'd appreciate it (as in compilations they appear on, as the
station has tons of comp. albums but I could never did thru all of them)

Bob Demmon/Astronauts, Colin Wilson, Orchestra Baobab, E.M. Elanka,
Terauchi Takeshi (sp?), Septic Death, Hellfire, Abe Schwarz, Repulsion,
Akemi and Jagatera, Extreme Noise Terror, Seige, Sam Fuller, Jerry Reed,
Roger Williams, Chuck Brown, Yokuza Z. Hiroku

Also, any specific suggestions (as in stuff that is similar to what's on
Radio) from the following would help:

Carole King, Jan Hammer, Liberace, Paul Bley, and Morricone (I didn't pick
up where the reference was in that song, "Triggerfingers"

Thanks, and wish I'd asked sooner,

WY




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Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 00:18:27 -0500
From: "wetboy" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Naked City's Radio

- -----Original Message-----
From: William York <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Monday, March 15, 1999 12:10 AM
Subject: Naked City's Radio


>This Thursday (3/18) from 9pm until 12pm I'm going to be doing a feature
>on the album Radio, attempting to play songs by as many of the artists
>mentioned in the "inspirations/refer" section of that album's liner notes.
>I think there are 62 (+ 1 book) mentioned.  I think it would be impossible
>to play something by every one of these groups, plus at the moment I only
>have stuff by about 45 of them.  But I'm going to try to fit in as many as
>possible, so if anyone wants to listen the address is www.wxyc.org/.
>
>Also, if anyone could suggest where I might find stuff by any of the
>following, I'd appreciate it (as in compilations they appear on, as the
>station has tons of comp. albums but I could never did thru all of them)
>
>Bob Demmon/Astronauts, Colin Wilson, Orchestra Baobab, E.M. Elanka,
>Terauchi Takeshi (sp?), Septic Death, Hellfire, Abe Schwarz,

Repulsion, - great film by roman polanski

>Akemi and Jagatera, Extreme Noise Terror, Seige,

Sam Fuller, - film maker extraordinaire. i recommend watching the steel
helmet and the naked kiss

Jerry Reed,
>Roger Williams, Chuck Brown, Yokuza Z. Hiroku
>
>Also, any specific suggestions (as in stuff that is similar to what's on
>Radio) from the following would help:
>
>Carole King,

Jan Hammer, - well, my favorite is jeff beck live w/the jan hammer group.
also, i guess u really can't ignore miami vice, cuz that's what made him a
household name. he also did the music 4 beyond the mind's eye, which was
done primarily w/a korg wavestation

Liberace, Paul Bley, and Morricone (I didn't pick
>up where the reference was in that song, "Triggerfingers"
>
>Thanks, and wish I'd asked sooner,
>
>WY
>
hope this helps. its all i know from the list


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Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 22:38:48 -0800
From: "Christian Heslop" <[e-mail]>
Subject: "gypsy music"

    A question posted here because of it's small relationship to klezmer...I'm
on a quest in search of authentic Eastern Europe folk music...much like
Bartok, but I'm buying CD's so authenticity is a little bit more difficult
to verify.
    I heard a recording a few years ago of some Tzimbalone music. I have no
idea as to what it's origins were, but it was electrifying.
    Which Fred Frith recordings are essential? I own "Cheap at Half the
Price". I bought it a few years ago without having any idea then of who he
was. Only a few days before that incidentally was when I first heard of
John Zorn. A friend had played a tape of The Big Gundown. The next day I
sold all of my old cd's.


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Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 23:00:24 -0800
From: Gene Natalia <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: "gypsy music"

At 10:38 PM 3/14/99 -0800, you wrote:
>    A question posted here because of it's small relationship to klezmer...I'm
>on a quest in search of authentic Eastern Europe folk music...much like
>Bartok, but I'm buying CD's so authenticity is a little bit more difficult
>to verify.

I'm really enjoying the Taraf de Haidouks cd that I recently purchased.  It
seems that there are 3 cd's under this title, and they are all true
Romanian gypsie (tsiganes) music.  The music is sometimes uplifting,
sometimes somber, but all very good and virtuosically played.  I have the
second volume, but there is a more recent one, which I intend to pick up
soon.  Also of interest might be David Shea's cd, "The Poem de Nuestra
Signora," which is a project in which he plays with and samples legitimate
Eastern European folk players, all of whom seem to be excellent.  It is
certainly something different and exciting, especially bizarre when he
beatboxes along with one of the pieces making it... Gyp Hop!  oops

                            -Ethan


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Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 09:09:29 +0100
From: Julien Quint <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Metamkine

Tom Pratt <[e-mail]> wrote:
> And while I'm at it, what are everyone's favorites of the Metamkine
> series? I have a handful but maybe I'm missing out on something
> essential...

I only have a few of them... I like Jim O'Rourke's "Rules of Reduction" a lot,
many of his sounds were recorded in France. There's "Unheimlich schoen" by Luc
Ferrari that I'm not too fond of (it revolves around a feminine voice and
whispers). "Nameless Victims" by Ralf Wehowsky is OK, but I haven't listened
to it to much. There's one by Bernhard Gunther that's great but the copy I
have skips badly after 15 minutes :( Also one that I don't have but really
like is Dominique Petitgand's "Petites pieces familiales" (or something like
that). Very beautiful.

Jerome Noetinger plans to revive the series -- the new batch will arrive soon
(I don't remember who's in it, except for Erik M.) You can contact him at
[e-mail] for more info.

Julien


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