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From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest)
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Subject: Zorn List Digest V2 #579
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Zorn List Digest Monday, January 25 1999 Volume 02 : Number 579
In this issue:
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braxton/dresser
Zorn at the Philharmonic
Masada messed up my mind last night!!
Comma mailing lists formed
Re: Juilliard Focus! Series
Frisell/Byron/Gress/DeJohnette
Re: braxton/dresser
Re: braxton/dresser
Microsoft and Zorn
Some items FS (1.25) ...
Re: what should i add to my collection?
E. Chadbourne
Kaiser at Roulette
RE: Zorn at the Philharmonic
masada in sf, february
RE: what should i add to my collection?
Re: E. Chadbourne
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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 14:16:56 -0800
From: Martin_Wisckol@link.freedom.com (Martin Wisckol)
Subject: braxton/dresser
Thanks to all of you for recommending Braxton's Willisau set and
pointing out sources for getting it on sale. Great value. The music is
worth full retail, altho I probably wouldn't have ventured into it
unheard except for the discount.
A couple of listens all the way through (great sound both studio and
live), and Mark Dresser is really blowin my mind. Technique is
mind-boggling, allowing a musical msg I've never heard anything like.
Enjoying those bass/ contrabass clarinet duos too....
This could well hurt my wallet some more.... There's so much Dresser to
listen to on those four discs, but greedy materialistic fetishist
collector that I am (tho not as bad as some of you -- I don't know
whether to thank you for helping me feel relatively normal or curse you
for the freer license to acquire Acquire ACQUIRE) I'm interested in
more Dresser. Any recommendations there?
I'm sorta sorry I have't followed Dresser's career more closely. We're
both from the San Diego area and I remember him already pretty unique
and impressive back then (late 70s/early 80s) as he helped create,
briefly, a good little avant improvising scene. I remember him bringing
Bobby Bradford down from LA and playing with him, I remember a coffee
house gig with Diamanda Galas, who was also still in the area at the
time. And probably something with saxman Daniel Jackson, who continues
to blow in San Diego -- one of those overlooked gems who never sought
the big time (I think Arthur Blythe talks about Jackson in the last
copy of Cadence). I still have a postcard Dresser wrote me in thanks
after a review or interview in the San Diego State Univ newspaper --
nice guy, very focused on what he wanted to do, and obviously very
disciplined about learning what could be done with the bass. Oh now I
also remember him holding down the bass chair at a Sunday jam session
run by Anthony Ortega -- specifically remember him terrifyingly tearing
it up on a solo to Caravan. Lived in a little cottage near the cliffs
overlooking the ocean in Del Mar....
n.p. Rabih Abou-Kahlil -- Odd Times (finally got around to picking this
one up and amazingly, the oud-harmonica-tuba-drums things works! The
harp player does some amazing things to follow the texture and nuance
and non-equal tempered playing of Abou-Kahlil. Really the
instrumentation isn't so odd -- harp takes the place of the alto sax he
used a lot before this, tuba takes the place of bass. But the harp also
brings occasional blues connotations -- Lebanese blues!)
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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 21:35:02 -0500 (EST)
From: William York <wyork@email.unc.edu>
Subject: Zorn at the Philharmonic
Hi, if anyone got or gets to see Zorn's Orchestra Vatiations at the New
York Philharmonic, could you please post a brief review? I read something
about this and would be interested to hear something about this, since
i'll probably never see it myself.
Thanks
WY
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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 21:55:52 EST
From: UArts69@aol.com
Subject: Masada messed up my mind last night!!
Hey There:
I received today's Zorn list with anticipation, having seen the Masada for
the first time last night at the Tonic. I'm surprised this edition of Zorn
list isn't packed with information and reviews. But anyway...I'm going to
tell you my impressions of these amazing musicians.
The Tonic club, for those who don't know is rather intimate, and although
it was PACKED, we managed to snipe some seats right in front of Joey Baron,
which was absolutely amazing. This guy is on another planet, and just seeing
him play drums is an experience...not to mention what you hear. He has the
most organic sound, and Greg Cohen and him locked up on a lot of interesting
ideas. At the same time, Zorn and Dave Douglas were absolutely flying. A lot
of notes, and each one so well placed. I can't comment on how the ensemble
compared to past Masada showings, but I DO know that it was very very intense,
and they were having as much fun as we were.
As for specific tunes, all those Masada song titles tend to run together to
me. I know one song's title (Tahah) and they gave a damn spirited rendition
of that tune to close the night.
The second set in particular was intense, and about halfway through the
set, the intensity level jumped a notch, and I found myself with my mind bent
in several different directions. Thanks guys...you really kicked my ass.
I'm sorry there isn't more to say, but with all of Zorn's work, the music
spoke solely for itself. If anyone else who has seen more Masada would like
to chip in thier $.02 I'd love to hear other's opinions. For those who missed
it...next time...
Later
Ryan
- -
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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 21:55:00 -0600 (CST)
From: "Joseph S. Zitt" <jzitt@humansystems.com>
Subject: Comma mailing lists formed
Of possible interest to zornsters...:
>From jzitt@metatronpress.com Sun Jan 24 03:40:10 1999
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 19:25:12 -0500 (EST)
From: Joseph Zitt <jzitt@metatronpress.com>
To: Members of Comma <jzitt@metatronpress.com>,
Matthew Ross Davis <mrd@artswire.org>,
Tom Bickley <tbickley@artswire.org>
Subject: Invitation Draft
To keep pace with interest in the ensemble Comma, Metatron Press is
pleased to announce the formation of two online mailing lists:
comma
is an unmoderated list for discussion of, about, with, and vaguely
related to Comma and its music.
To subscribe to it, send email with the text
subscribe comma
to majordomo@metatronpress.com
comma-announce
is a moderated announcement list for news of Comma performances,
recordings, and the like.
To subscribe to it, send email with the text
subscribe comma-announce
to majordomo@metatronpress.com
Comma is a Washington, DC, based ensemble specializing in music that
involves improvisation and mindfulness practices. Their repertory includes
newly composed musical works, performance poetry, chant from various early
traditions, group improvisations, and unexpected bursts of humor. Comma's
first CD, "(voices)", included works by John Cage, Pauline Oliveros, and
the members of the ensemble.
The members of Comma (Thomas Bickley, Matthew Ross Davis, and Joseph
Zitt) will be participating actively in the lists (as well as managing
its subscriptions, etc) and look forward to your involvement.
- - ---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1---------1----------
|||/ Joseph Zitt ===== jzitt@humansystems.com ===== Human Systems \|||
||/ Maryland? = <*> SILENCE: The John Cage Mailing List <*> = ecto \||
|/ http://www.realtime.net/~jzitt ====== Comma: Voices of New Music \|
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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 01:56:00 -0500
From: David Beardsley <xouoxno@virtulink.com>
Subject: Re: Juilliard Focus! Series
> "hijk" <hijk@gateway.net> writez:
>
> The Juilliard School is hosting a festival starting tonight (1/22) entitled
> FOCUS!: Toward the Millenenium, Part 1 The American 90's - a Sampler.
>
> All shows are free, but do require tickets for entry and all performances
> are in the Juilliard Theater. Call the Juilliard box office for more
> information 212 - 769-7406.
> Enjoy, music always sounds better when it's free.
>
Schedule here: http://www.soundart.org/jan%2024.html
Always a great festival, although I haven't been to it in a few years.
I'm still sorry that I missed the Henry Cowell verson 2 years. ago.
I was on crutches and couldn't be bothered....
I hope I can make a few dates this week. The summer version is
in the Museum of Modern Art Sculpture Garden every Fri & Sat night
during the summer.
- --
* D a v i d B e a r d s l e y
* xouoxno@virtulink.com
*
* J u x t a p o s i t i o n E z i n e
* M E L A v i r t u a l d r e a m house monitor
*
* http://www.virtulink.com/immp/lookhere.htm
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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 03:42:56 EST
From: IOUaLive1@aol.com
Subject: Frisell/Byron/Gress/DeJohnette
1-22-98 Bearsville Theater, NY
Don Byron-clarinet
Bill Frisell-guitar
Drew Gress-bass
Jack Dejohnette-drums
If anyone caught this show, I'd love to hear a review. Apparently it was a
one-off, and they will go into the studio within the next few days to record
an album.
- -Jody
- -
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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 11:24:28 -0500
From: Brian Olewnick <olewnik@IDT.NET>
Subject: Re: braxton/dresser
Martin Wisckol wrote:
> I'm interested in more Dresser. Any recommendations there?
I wouldn't mind a small recapitulation of reviews of Dresser releases
myself as I'm fairly unfamiliar with his own work outside of the Arcado
trio. I caught him a couple of weeks ago (Merkin Hall, NYC) in a
performance of several pieces of his of a somewhat classical bent and
was pretty impressed. His ensemble, in various configurations, included
Mary Rowell (violin), Friedlander, Denman Maroney, Marcus Rojas and
Chris Speed. His writing and, to a great extent, the group's
improvising, displayed a refreshing, tart, romantic streak, becoming
quite moving in works like one dedicated to the passengers of Flight
800. Should this group record, I'd strongly suggest checking it out.
Dresser also performed a very strong solo piece, demonstrating his rich
facility with the bow.
> n.p. Rabih Abou-Kahlil -- Odd Times (finally got around to picking this
> one up and amazingly, the oud-harmonica-tuba-drums things works!
Toldja!
Brian Olewnick
- -
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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 11:57:26 EST
From: JonAbbey2@aol.com
Subject: Re: braxton/dresser
In a message dated 1/24/99 11:35:32 AM, olewnik@IDT.NET writes:
<< I caught him a couple of weeks ago (Merkin Hall, NYC) in a
performance of several pieces of his of a somewhat classical bent and
was pretty impressed. His ensemble, in various configurations, included
Mary Rowell (violin), Friedlander, Denman Maroney, Marcus Rojas and
Chris Speed. His writing and, to a great extent, the group's
improvising, displayed a refreshing, tart, romantic streak, becoming
quite moving in works like one dedicated to the passengers of Flight
800. Should this group record, I'd strongly suggest checking it out. >>
I believe that later that week, they recorded this material for Tzadik.
Jon
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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 22:48:58 -0500
From: "Rich Ladew" <ellery@empire.net>
Subject: Microsoft and Zorn
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Zornophiles:
While watching the X-Files this week (1/24/99), I saw a Microsoft =
commercial (something about a lady running a hand lotion business) which =
featured Zorn's main title score from "White and Lazy".(FILMWORKS 1 cd)
featuring
Robert Quine, melvin Gibbs <<Rollins Band, Harriet Tubman>>, Arto =
Lindsay, Anton Fier, Carol emmanuel, David Weinstein, and Ned =
Rothenberg.
I guess one of Weiden and Kennedy's clients, besides Nike and Sega =
(remember the blasts ofTorture Garden in an old Sonic the Hedgehog =
commercial?) is Microsoft.
Other Zorn news: a nod to the lesbian s/m porno "Elegant Spanking" which =
Zorn scored (one of the filmworks cds as well) in the Feb. issue of =
Details, from a list of the best lesbian films of all time (Elizabeth =
Hurley on the front cover.)
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 00:50:29 -0500
From: pm.carey@utoronto.ca (Patrick Carey)
Subject: Some items FS (1.25) ...
Hello,
Please pardon the intrusion ...
I've got some items FS that some on this list may
be interested in. First come, first served ...
Prices are in _US $_ and are POSTAGE PAID within NA.
Shipping on orders outside NA can be arranged.
** If you don't like the prices, make me an offer.
# Albert Ayler - "Live In Greenwich Village: The Complete Impulse
Recordings" US 2CD (Impulse) 1998 $18
* Caspar Br=F6tzmann/F.M. Einheit - "Merry Christmas" GER CD
(Rough Trade/Our Choice) 1994 $14
* Caspar Br=F6tzmann/Page Hamilton - "Zulutime" AUS CD
(Rough Trade/Our Choice/Blast First/Sub Rosa - Subsonic) 1996 $12
* C.C.C.C. - "Amplified Crystal" JAP LP (Endorphine Factory) 1993 $15
* C.C.C.C. - "Community Center Cyber Crash - Live In Pittsburgh" US LP
(RRR/SSS) 1993 $7
* Nimrod - "The Mighty Hunter/Lab 36B" CAN picdisc LP (Scratch) 1994 =
$5
* Nimrod - "Nimrod" CAN CD (Scratch) 1996 $7
* Witchman - "Nightmare Alley" UK 2x12" (Deviant) 1996 $15
* Witchman - "Heavy Mental" UK CD5 (Deviant) 1997 $5
Thanks for looking.
- -Patrick
pm.carey@utoronto.ca
http://www.astro.utoronto.ca/~carey/sofa/sale.html
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 06:42:03 -0800 (PST)
From: sonny shine <fudgepakker@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: what should i add to my collection?
sounds good.
but what i'm noticing is that most of the zorn i go shopping for is
EX-PEN-SIVE! like it's all imported or something...maybe i need a
divergent source..
sonny
- ---User384726@aol.com wrote:
>
> If you like the raw agression of naked city and love some bop sax
lines I
> highly recomend "Spy vs. Spy". It's an album of Ornette Coleman
compositions
> with a zorn twist. I think it may be the loudest album I've ever
heard. It
> sounds as though the mics are being pushed well beyond their input
limit.
> Also I remember reading a Joey Baron article where he said that when
this was
> perfomed live ever John Zorn had to wear ear plugs. There's also
another
> article I read where a reviewer said that he contemplated sewing the
> performers because the music put everyone's hearing at risk.
> Aaron Solomon
>
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DO YOU YAHOO!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 11:11:43 -0500
From: Steve Spangler <STVASPNG@Otterbein.edu>
Subject: E. Chadbourne
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Does anybody know anything about a Chadbourne piece titled Camper Van Chadbourne.
I saw a copy for $4.99, but I haven't picked it up. Is this a worthwhile
introduction to this guy--the only other thing I have is the disk from
the new Zorn book.
<P>Steve</HTML>
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 99 11:49:53 -0500
From: brian_olewnick@smtplink.mssm.edu
Subject: Kaiser at Roulette
A little advance notice: Henry Kaiser's making a rare NYC appearance
on March 6 at Roulette, w/John Oswald and Greg Goodman.
Brian Olewnick
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 12:12:07 -0500
From: "hijk" <hijk@gateway.net>
Subject: RE: Zorn at the Philharmonic
When is/was this?
Jeff Kent
hijk@gateway.net
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 09:11:55 -0800
From: "Benito Vergara" <sunny70@sirius.com>
Subject: masada in sf, february
Just in case you folks were interested:
Masada (JZ, Kenny Wollesen, Trevor Dunn and John Schott) will be at Slim's
in San Francisco at 9 pm.
Note, however, the conflicting dates: the SF Chronicle Datebook lists Feb.
11; Ticketweb.com lists Feb. 10. Anyone know the date for sure?
Later,
Ben
http://www.bigfoot.com/~bvergara/
ICQ# 12832406
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 09:28:54 -0800
From: "Benito Vergara" <sunny70@sirius.com>
Subject: RE: what should i add to my collection?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-zorn-list@lists.xmission.com
> [mailto:owner-zorn-list@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of sonny shine
> Sent: Monday, January 25, 1999 6:42 AM
> but what i'm noticing is that most of the zorn i go shopping for is
> EX-PEN-SIVE! like it's all imported or something...maybe i need a
> divergent source..
Keep an eye out for online coupons for MusicBlvd., CDNow, etc. (When
Amazon.com first started its online music section their DIW discs were about
$13, but not anymore.) Unfortunately you won't be seeing Masada discs in the
used bins yet (not until that box set is released, heh heh). Also
http://www.everycd.com list their Masada CDs from $13.97 - $16.48 (and Naked
City CDs for $15.82!), which is the cheapest I've seen them online without
coupons. Be warned, however: ever since everycd.com put out those full-page
ads in newspapers nationwide, their pages have been loading up incredibly
slowly, which has prevented me from actually ordering (you also have to pay
a membership fee).
Not a paid shill for any of these online stores, usual disclaimers, etc.,
etc.
Later,
Ben
http://www.bigfoot.com/~bvergara/
ICQ# 12832406
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 12:53:02 -0500
From: Circle9 <caliban@ctol.net>
Subject: Re: E. Chadbourne
CVC is a collaboration of Eugene and the art-folk-rolk group Camper van
Beethoven. It' okay- just them goofing around, playing covers (Floyd and
Zappa feature prominently). I wouldn't recommend it as an introduction,
as it feels very much like a throw-away album. Though for $4.99, the
price is hard to beat.
Starting out on EC, I'd recommend "There'll Be No Tears Tonight" (a/k/a
"LSD C&W")- his wacky arrangements of old Country & Western classics
(which happens to feature Zorn on sax). "Country Protest" is pretty
strong as well IMO- covers and originals, lots of experimental noodling
on that one. No idea as to the current in-print status on either...
-S.
Steve Spangler wrote:
> Does anybody know anything about a Chadbourne piece titled Camper Van
> Chadbourne. I saw a copy for $4.99, but I haven't picked it up. Is
> this a worthwhile introduction to this guy--the only other thing I
> have is the disk from the new Zorn book.
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