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From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest)
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Subject: Zorn List Digest V2 #459
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Zorn List Digest Tuesday, September 15 1998 Volume 02 : Number 459
In this issue:
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reissues
Coupla British composers
masada 10
Suggestions...Turntable (addition).
Re: Coupla British composers
Re: some suggestions please....
Masada Songbook
David Slusser's Rubber City?
bloodcount tapes
Re: David Slusser's Rubber City?
Re: David Slusser's Rubber City?
Re: David Slusser's Rubber City?
Japanese noise
New K.F./Tzadik/Avant DIW
Re[2]: David Slusser's Rubber City?
Re: David Slusser's Rubber City?
POSITION: MONITOR for DREAM HOUSE exhibition (Volunteer Interns)
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Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 19:38:16 -0400
From: Tom Pratt <tpratt@smtc.net>
Subject: reissues
Some lost rarities of interest have been reissued so I thought I'd let
you know about them. Alan Shorter's 'Orgasm' has been reissued for a
limited time by Verve and 'Alabama Feeling' by Arthur Doyle + 4 has also
been reissued (not by Verve!). I picked both up today so it's too early
to give any comments but just so you know... (I saw the original vinyl
for 'Orgasm' go for $150 the other day and apparently the original vinyl
for the Doyle goes up to $200 in Japan).
Some recent purchases that I highly recommend:
Sun City Girls - 330,003 Crossdressers From Beyond the Rig Veda
Double CD on Abduction with Eyvind Kang guesting on a 34 minute track.
An incredible disc (especially the first disc).
Shamanistic Ceremonies From The Eastern Seaboard (JVC World Series)
Traditional music from Korea. At times you will swear your listening
to a Giuseppi Logan/Milford Graves duo. Amazing!
-Tom Pratt
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Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 20:05:55 -0400
From: Brian Olewnick <olewnik@IDT.NET>
Subject: Coupla British composers
Has anyone heard the music of either Dave Smith or John White (not names
that'll stand out in a crowd, I guess)? I came across them in the liners
to Howard Skempton's stunningly gorgeous album, 'Well, Well, Cornelius'
(Sony Classical SK 66482), where they're cited as composers often
featured in John Tilbury's recitals. Tilbury, through both my recent
exposure to his work with AMM and this record, is swiftly becoming a
strong favorite of mine; I'm eagerly looking forward to his release of
the complete Feldman piano works this fall.
Skempton's disc, by the way, consists of 44 short pieces for piano that
remind me of Satie in his spare, "Rosicrucian" period, combined with
dashes of Rzewski and Cardew, all of it refracted through a Feldmanesque
prism (Morty, not Marty!). Deceptively simple jewels, strikingly
beautiful.
Brian Olewnick
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Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 20:28:38 -0500
From: Pierre Toussaint <m223024@er.uqam.ca>
Subject: masada 10
CDnow anounces that Masada 10 will be released on the 15th of september.
Hope this is news for all of you, it was for me.
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Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 21:02:41 -0400
From: "Jason J. Tar" <tarjason@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: Suggestions...Turntable (addition).
Got the new DJ Disk cd called _Ancient Termites_. Most impressive, some
tracks are traditional hip hop cut-ups, but many are more about textures.
Much better than the recent Mix Master Mike cd. Features Brain and
Buckethead on a couple tracks. Out on the Bomb Hip Hop label. (DJ Disk
also recently remixed Primus and was featured on the live Praxis album
along with the other ISPiklz.)
I would recommend AVOIDING anything by X-Ecutioners, who are often touted
as worthwhile DJs. Their cd on Asphodel, called _X-Pressions_, is weighed
down with a whole lot of awful MCs who take away from the cuts. How many
times do you want to hear some guy yell "Roc Raida"?? :( [Though they do
have a Japanese cd recently out called _Japan X-clusive_ that supposedly
features Japanese MCs that might not be as awful, but still....]
- ---
Peace Hugs and Unity Jason J. Tar
W. W. J. D?
(What would Jason Do?)
http://pilot.msu.edu/user/tarjason
ICQ@13792120
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Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 21:37:50 EDT
From: JonAbbey2@aol.com
Subject: Re: Coupla British composers
In a message dated 9/14/98 8:14:00 PM, olewnik@IDT.NET wrote:
<<Has anyone heard the music of either Dave Smith or John White (not names
that'll stand out in a crowd, I guess)? I came across them in the liners
to Howard Skempton's stunningly gorgeous album, 'Well, Well, Cornelius'
(Sony Classical SK 66482), where they're cited as composers often
featured in John Tilbury's recitals. Tilbury, through both my recent
exposure to his work with AMM and this record, is swiftly becoming a
strong favorite of mine; >>
then you'll be happy to know that Matchless 14 is John Tilbury-Dave Smith's
First Piano Concert. this is one of the few Matchless titles I haven't heard
so I can't give you feedback on how it is but it is out there.
<<I'm eagerly looking forward to his release of the complete Feldman piano
works this fall.>>
any more info on this? what label is it on? how many CDs?
Jon, who just bumped his vacation back a week so he wouldn't miss Keiji
Haino's visit to NYC.
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Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 09:57:36 -0400
From: Caleb Deupree <cdeupree@interagp.com>
Subject: Re: some suggestions please....
>>>>> "jt" == jtalbot <jtalbot@massart.edu> writes:
jt> i'm looking to buy some mingus and christian marclay. can
jt> anyone shoot out some suggestons? they would be greatly
jt> appreciated. i'm looking for some of mingus' more "free"
jt> stuff. his more complicated and/or "out there" stuff (for lack
jt> of a better word).
Marclay's work on Butch Morris' Conduction 22 with Le Quan Ninh and
Gunter Muller on percussion, JA Deane on trombone and live sampling,
and Martin Schutz on cello is nothing short of amazing, the best
conduction I've heard so far. I like this better than Marclay's solo
work that I've heard.
jt> i'm also interested in hearing some turntable/djtype
jt> stuff. not club music. musicians who push the boundaries of
jt> this instrument. any suggestions? thanks
Check out David Shea's work, especially Satyricon, Tower of Mirrors,
or Prisoner; and Otomo Yoshihide, either his solo work, or his more
well known 'band' Ground Zero. All GZ is interesting, but I would
start with their Null & Void (on Tzadik, their most widely available),
Revolutionary Pekinese Opera, Consume Red (both on ReR) or Plays
Standards.
Although John Oswald doesn't DJ or play turntables, his plunderphonics
work is essential if you're interested in reusing pre-existing
recordings, which is at least part of what turntable players do.
Oswald works with more classical tape techniques, so the act of
scratching or live turntable manipulation is completely missing. If
you have a good internet connection, you can download his first
(banned) album, or look for Plexure on Avant, which is phenomenal.
- ---
Caleb T. Deupree
;; Opinions... funny thing about opinions, they can change.
Computers are useless. They can only give you answers.
(Pablo Picasso)
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Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 15:28:21 GMT0BST
From: DR S WILKIE <S.Wilkie@swansea.ac.uk>
Subject: Masada Songbook
Anybody know what number 191 in the Masada Songbook is?
Sean
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Date: Tue, 15 Sep 98 11:07:13 -0500
From: brian_olewnick@smtplink.mssm.edu
Subject: David Slusser's Rubber City?
Reading the interview with Slusser on the Perfect Sound Forever site
(thanks, Jason), he mentions this band, consisting of himself and
Ralph Carney on reeds, w/ bass and drums. Pre-dating the founding of
Masada, the band apparently works a similar post-Ornette territory.
Slusser didn't say whether this band has recorded; if not, has anyone
heard them? Opinions?
There was a commercial a coupla years back (for brillo-like pads?)
featuring a bunch or dancing, clattering pots and pans. I'd always
thought the rhythms were surprisingly complex and enjoyable,
surprising in that context. I feel a bit vindicated upon now
discovering that Slusser was responsible for the music!
Brian Olewnick
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Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 12:39:42 -0400 (EDT)
From: jascha <jwnarves@csclub.uwaterloo.ca>
Subject: bloodcount tapes
Awhile ago someone on this list agreed to tape me some bloodcount stuff,
which has yet to arrive here. I'm thinking maybe my address got lost
before it could be sent, so if you're they guy who's kindly taping stuff
for me, please write back and i'll send you my address again.
Sorry for the use of bandwidth, everyone else...
- -jascha
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Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 11:43:34 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Robert A. Pleshar" <rpleshar@midway.uchicago.edu>
Subject: Re: David Slusser's Rubber City?
Slusser & Carney are both from Akron (home of Goodyear and other rubber
companies). Hence the name of their band. I don't know what they sounded
like though. I believe bay area reedist Dan Plonsey is also originally from
Akron.
Geographically yours,
Ralph
At 11:07 AM 9/15/98 -0500, brian_olewnick@smtplink.mssm.edu wrote:
>
> Reading the interview with Slusser on the Perfect Sound Forever site
> (thanks, Jason), he mentions this band, consisting of himself and
> Ralph Carney on reeds, w/ bass and drums. Pre-dating the founding of
> Masada, the band apparently works a similar post-Ornette territory.
>
> Slusser didn't say whether this band has recorded; if not, has anyone
> heard them? Opinions?
>
> There was a commercial a coupla years back (for brillo-like pads?)
> featuring a bunch or dancing, clattering pots and pans. I'd always
> thought the rhythms were surprisingly complex and enjoyable,
> surprising in that context. I feel a bit vindicated upon now
> discovering that Slusser was responsible for the music!
>
> Brian Olewnick
>
>
>
>
>-
>
>
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Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 11:42:32 -0500
From: nearixson@juno.com (Nathan M Earixson)
Subject: Re: David Slusser's Rubber City?
On Tue, 15 Sep 98 11:07:13 -0500 brian_olewnick@smtplink.mssm.edu writes:
>
> Reading the interview with Slusser on the Perfect Sound Forever
>site
> (thanks, Jason), he mentions this band, consisting of himself and
>
> Ralph Carney on reeds, w/ bass and drums. Pre-dating the founding
>of
> Masada, the band apparently works a similar post-Ornette
>territory.
>
> Slusser didn't say whether this band has recorded; if not, has
>anyone
> heard them? Opinions?
Is it possible that this is the 'Rubber City' that plays on the
soundtrack to David Lynch's 'Wild at Heart'?
- -nathan
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Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 11:47:35 -0700
From: john shiurba <shiurba@sfo.com>
Subject: Re: David Slusser's Rubber City?
> Reading the interview with Slusser on the Perfect Sound Forever site
> (thanks, Jason), he mentions this band, consisting of himself and
> Ralph Carney on reeds, w/ bass and drums. Pre-dating the founding of
> Masada, the band apparently works a similar post-Ornette territory.
> Slusser didn't say whether this band has recorded; if not, has anyone
> heard them? Opinions?
I've seen them a few times. They're great, but I don't know what if
anything they have to do with, or why they would be seen as predating
Masada, other than they were around before Masada and they're an
interesting jazz group.
I don't think they've released any recordings.
- --
shiurba@sfo.com
http://www.sfo.com/~shiurba
I don't wake up for less than $10,000 a day.
(L. Evangelista)
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Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:11:08 -0600
From: Deanna Lee <dlee@artic.edu>
Subject: Japanese noise
Does anyone know of clubs/venues in Tokyo where I can find good noise a la
Boredoms, Ruins, Zeni Geva, etc.? Or websites to guide me there?
- -
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Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 15:44:53 -0400 (EDT)
From: William York <wyork@email.unc.edu>
Subject: New K.F./Tzadik/Avant DIW
Yesterday we got a huge shipment of stuff from these guys at the radio (I
think it all came in the same box) so I ended up taking home about 13 new
CDs, including Zorn's Ganyru Island, Aporias, and Masada 10.
Anyway, I just wanted to say that I heard the first few songs of the new
Naftule's Dream (_Smash, Clap!_) and it sounds awesome. It's produced by
Laswell and while I'm often not too big on his production, this has a huge
sound to it and the playing and writing are superb. I haven't had a
chance to hear the whole thing but so far this is one of the most
immediately likeable and most rocking Tzadik CDs I've heard.
Also, Bruce Ackley of ROVA has a trio CD with Joey Baron and Greg Cohen
which is just excellent straight ahead trio jazz. I'm not a big soprano
sax fan but this sounded great on the first listen.
With Ganyru Island, I was surprised how in-noisy it was. The shamisen
player (forgt the name) plays a lot of straight rhytmic parts while Zorn
is doing the duck calls and so forth. I just made it to trck #6 where
things started to come together a little bit more, but before that they
weren't blending together so well. His duck call playing, underwater sax
and all that seems a bit more gimmicky than on Locus Solus, which just
amazes me. Still, its fairly interesting.
Aporias is pretty short (30:00 or so) and quiet, but not extremely quiet.
I can't give a lot of comparisons to other classical composers, but I'll
just say it seems on the less extreme side and sounds good so far.
The Knitting Factory Stuff (Brigan Krauss, E#, Zony Mash) sounded o.k. but
didn't really knock me out. I was disappointed to hear Krauss doing so
much improv, I would rather just hear him PLAY and not hear all this
tentative bouncing ideas off each other stuff (most of it sounded like
they just rolled the tape and played and kept what they liked). The Knit
also put out a CD single of Hasidic New Wave and God is My Copilot doing a
remade version of The Dead Kennedy's "California Uber Alles" with new
political lyrics about Mayor Guilliani (sp?). No, I'm not kidding either.
I've got to go home and listen to all this stuff again, plus the new KF Cd
with Thomas Chapin and the Berlin Contemporary Jazz Orchestra. Sorry to
be so vague, just wanted to brag about having all this stuff
(temporarily) for free.
WY
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Date: Tue, 15 Sep 98 15:55:12 -0500
From: brian_olewnick@smtplink.mssm.edu
Subject: Re[2]: David Slusser's Rubber City?
John wrote:
>I've seen them a few times. They're great, but I don't know what if
>anything they have to do with, or why they would be seen as predating
>Masada, other than they were around before Masada and they're an
>interesting jazz group.
>I don't think they've released any recordings.
In the interview, Slusser made mention of the fact, implying (to me,
anyway) that there was a similarity in approach. If not, not.
Brian O.
- -
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Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 17:35:49 -0400 (EDT)
From: Taylor McLaren <bm254@freenet.toronto.on.ca>
Subject: Re: David Slusser's Rubber City?
MEEP! Nathan Earixson wrote:
>Is it possible that this is the 'Rubber City' that plays on the
>soundtrack to David Lynch's 'Wild at Heart'?
Given that this interview (http://www.furious.com/perfect/slusser.html)
specifically mentions the work that Meester Slusser did on Wild at Heart
and Firewalk With Me, yeah... I'd say that there's a good chance that
they're one and the same.
I'm suddenly very interested in hearing _Delight_.
- -me
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Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 19:43:23 -0400
From: David Beardsley <xouoxno@virtulink.com>
Subject: POSITION: MONITOR for DREAM HOUSE exhibition (Volunteer Interns)
MELA Foundation Inc.
275 Church Street New York, NY 10013
212-925-8270
September 1998
Mela Foundation is seeking interns for unpaid
volunteer positions of Monitor for Dream House exhibition.
Dream House: Seven Years of Sound and Light,
a collaborative Sound and Light Environment by
composer La Monte Young and visual artist Marian
Zazeela, is presented in an extended exhibition
at MELA Foundation, 275 Church Street, 3rd Floor.
Young and Zazeela characterize the Sound and Light
Environment as a "time installation measured by a
setting of continuous frequencies in sound and light."
POSITION: MONITOR for DREAM HOUSE exhibition (Volunteer Interns)
Hours: Exhibition is open Thursdays and Saturdays
from 2:00 PM to Midnight. Time slots of four to six
hours need to be filled on those days.
Description: Monitor will open or close exhibition;
turn on electronic sound equiptment and turn up
light environment; make sure all technical equiptment
is running properly; greet visitors; distribute
information; answer questions concerning the
environment; sell books and recordings.
Contact: Call the MELA Foundation, 212-925-8270.
If you call, leave a message on the answering machine
with your phone number and times we can reach you.
Or come to 275 Church Street, 3rd Floor, Thursdays
and Saturdays, 2:00 PM to Midnight, and experience
the environment and speak to the monitor on
duty.
Press Commentary on Exhibition:
"... the multifaceted form of the 35-frequency
construction of Young's current installation is
the principal reason it changes hallucinogenically
with every shift in perspective and why the tones
freeze in place as long as one is perfectly still
while the slightest gesture will startle forth
unnamable, wildly plumed melodies from the
luxuriant harmonic foliage. Zazeela's light
sculptures have invariably, teasingly refused
to surrender their entire secret to photographic
reprodution, so much do they depend on
the retinal impact of activated photons in real
time and so much do they exploit, in ways analagous
to Young's techniques, the creation of visual
combination tones and an accumulation of after-images."
- -- Sandy McCroskey, 1/1, The Journal of the Just Intonation Network
"Young's newest sine-tone sculpture shimmers and
swirls as you walk around the room and, amazingly,
when you freeze, it does too. Stay at least long
enough to stare at Zazeela's Imagic Light and Ruine
Window, which will imprint your retina with blues
and purples you haven't felt before."
- -- Kyle Gann, The Village Voice
"The visitor with an acute ear can actually 'play'
the room like an instrument: explore the sound close
to the wall, close to the floor, in the corner, or
just standing still. Or lie on the floor and allow
the sound to float you into heaven, slide you into
hell, or transport you wherever you want to go.
See if you agree with those who call Young's sound
sculpture a precursor of ambient music.
Zazeela's light installation, "Imagic Light," offers
an intriuging complement to the sound, even though
it is equally effective when viewed in
silence. Using pairs of colored lights and suspended
aluminum mobiles cut out in calligraphic shapes,
Zazeela explores the relationship between object
and shadow, making the tangible intangible, and vice
versa. Enjoy the installation for its mesmerizing
beauty, or try to analyze how the different
colors are achieved, how the mobiles create the
resulting shadows, or perspective the infinite number
of symmetrical patterns in the room."
- -- David Farneth, Metrobeat
Music Eternal Light
Art
* David Beardsley
* xouoxno@virtulink.com
*
* virtual dream house monitor
* for the MELA Foundation
*
* http://www.virtulink.com/mela/main.htm
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