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From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest)
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Subject: Zorn List Digest V2 #455
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Zorn List Digest Tuesday, September 8 1998 Volume 02 : Number 455
In this issue:
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twofer
Re: twofer
Re: Re: twofer
haino
Re: twofer
Keiji Haino
Molde-Knitting Factory
Keiji Haino
Re: Keiji Haino
Re: Keiji Haino
Re: Keiji Haino
Re: Zorn List Digest V2 #454
Re: News For Lulu
Re: Zorn List Digest V2 #454
news for lulu
tricky.
Re: twofer
Zorn List Digest V2 #454
Paul Simon
Re: News & More News For Lulu
RE: Paul Simon
Re: Eugene In Ventura
Re: Eugene In Ventura
New Zorn Releases?
Re: Paul Simon
san fran shows
Re: Paul Simon
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Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 02:17:12 EDT
From: Sulacco@aol.com
Subject: twofer
ok. not a big deal, but i finally broke down and bought plexure by john
oswald. i had it on tape for a while and decided to break my dollar a minute
rule and buy the damn thing outright. the disc clocks in at about 19:30, but i
don't think most people would want any more than that. if you are not
familiar, plexure is a plunderphonic record. oswald manipulates samples of
music you'll probably recognize and weaves them together to make soundscapes
(for lack of a better term). also, i'm not really upset that its only about 20
min long because i have done some of this kind of thing myself (though not to
this refined degree, by any stretch of the imagination) and i appreciate how
long this kind of thing takes. definitely getting heavy rotation. anybody have
a list of ALL the samples?
now for the twofer. does anyone (patrice?) know of any "good" (you guys know
what i mean) cd stores in wash. dc?
- -
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Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 02:26:48 -0400
From: Joseph Zitt <jzitt@humansystems.com>
Subject: Re: twofer
Sulacco@aol.com wrote:
> now for the twofer. does anyone (patrice?) know of any "good" (you guys know
> what i mean) cd stores in wash. dc?
Ghod, I wish I did. The CD scene here in DC is pretty pathetic. I save up
for runs into NYC for serious music-related wallet damage.
OTOH, if there was good CD snarfage to be had here, I'd probably be
utterly broke.
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Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 02:29:02 EDT
From: Sulacco@aol.com
Subject: Re: Re: twofer
In a message dated 9/7/98 2:27:35, you wrote:
>OTOH, if there was good CD snarfage to be had here, I'd probably be
>utterly broke.
kind of a double edged sword, huh?
- -
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Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 02:32:47 EDT
From: Sulacco@aol.com
Subject: haino
>) What's your opinion on "Allegorical Misunderstanding". In all the
interviews
and articles I have on Haino, this one seems to attract the least
attention.
before you know it, this will be the only thing you listen to (at least for a
while). i was kinda disappointed when i first got this. then i gave it another
chance. i found some things i liked. i kept listening. i liked more and more
of it. all of a sudden, i didn't need a 5 disc changer anymore. i recommend it
highly.
- -
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Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 02:36:17 -0400
From: Joseph Zitt <jzitt@humansystems.com>
Subject: Re: twofer
Sulacco@aol.com wrote:
>
> In a message dated 9/7/98 2:27:35, you wrote:
>
> >OTOH, if there was good CD snarfage to be had here, I'd probably be
> >utterly broke.
>
> kind of a double edged sword, huh?
Well, broke but happy :-) Fortunately, I just got a box of CDs I
ordered over the Net from Downtown Music Gallery in NYC, so I'm not
*too* grunged out over the local CD scene at the moment...
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Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 11:56:00 +0000
From: Simon Hopkins <shopkins@globalnet.co.uk>
Subject: Keiji Haino
>Excuse me if this is slightly off subject, but after all Zorn and Haino have
>collaborated in the past...
>
You might be interested in our review of Fushitsusha's "The Wisdom
Prepared" - complete with sound samples - on motion:
http://www.state51.co.uk/motion/
cheers
simon and dan @ state51
simon hopkins
a c/o state51 91 brick lane london e1
c 00 44 (0)973 654 276
e simon@state51.co.uk or shopkins@globalnet.co.uk
worldwide representation for:
kevin martin (techno animal, ice, the sidewinder, the bug)
justin broadrick (godflesh, techno animal, ice, the sidewinder)
paul schⁿtze (7░, phantom city)
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arashi vs red king
magus designs
nikky twyman on-line editing and proofreading
sh is an associate member of the state51 conspiracy
check out the ---+ motion website:
http://www.state51.co.uk/motion/
- -
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Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 13:46:11 +0
From: "GEIR STORLI" <storlig@tcmlib.tcm.ac.uk>
Subject: Molde-Knitting Factory
Hi There.
I went to a internet- relayed concert at the Molde International Jazz
Festival, with Molvaer, Terje Rypdal, DJ Soulswinger and Bill Laswell
on stage in Molde, but I never really got to hear who played at the
Knitting Factory. All I can remember know is that there were an
acoustic bass and a drum kit.
I know the chances are slim that anyone should know who these were,
but if anyone out there would know who these were could you please,
please send me the names.
Cheers.
Geir Inge Storli
- -
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Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 11:06:22 -0500
From: Craig Rath <fripp@ibm.net>
Subject: Keiji Haino
Speaking of Haino - someone a while back posted that Haino was going to be
playing at Tonic in NY in October. Does anyone have any more specific
information about that yet? Their web page only goes up through the 3rd or
4th or October. I'm planning to make a trip out there soon and need to
know when the best time would be to coincide with his performances.
- -
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Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 12:47:38 -0400
From: Tom Pratt <tpratt@smtc.net>
Subject: Re: Keiji Haino
> I've fallen completely in love with Haino's Fushitsusha recently, and an
> imminent business trip to Japan will put me in the position of being able to
> buy some more of the good man's releases. So here are my questions:
Get Fushitsusha's 'Double Live' (PSF 15/16) for sure. Of the solo stuff,
I love 'I Said, This Is The Son Of Nihilism' but that's regularly
available in the US. Anything on Tokuma or Mom N' Dad you should get as
they are Japanese labels that aren't too good at making it into the US
cheaply. PSF is actually quite easy to get at a good price here.
> 3) Is the 4CD box set "The Soul's True Love" still available?
Yep. At least at Forced Exposure it is.
You might as well pick up whatever Masayuki Takayanagi you can find too
(especially the non-PSF stuff)
-Tom Pratt
- -
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Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 23:42:49 -0400
From: Steve Smith <ssmith36@sprynet.com>
Subject: Re: Keiji Haino
Craig Rath wrote:
> Speaking of Haino - someone a while back posted that Haino was going to be
> playing at Tonic in NY in October. Does anyone have any more specific
> information about that yet?
Last week of October, most probably Oct. 28-31 but I can't swear to it and
don't have the original post anymore. (I can swear that the 30th is one of the
dates in question, so that's what I base the rest of this guess upon.) And
I've also just learned that High Rise is playing during that same period at the
East Village club Brownies. Next thing you know, someone will post that Ghost
is playing at the Cooler the same night... ;-)
By the way, Haino's four new Tokuma releases are reviewed in the new issue of
The Wire.
Steve Smith
ssmith36@sprynet.com
- -
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Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 21:01:34 -0700 (PDT)
From: SUGAR in their vitamins? <yol@esophagus.com>
Subject: Re: Keiji Haino
On Mon, 7 Sep 1998, Steve Smith wrote:
> Last week of October, most probably Oct. 28-31 but I can't swear to it and
hadn't heard about Haino coming to the US.
> I've also just learned that High Rise is playing during that same period at the
> East Village club Brownies.
yes, October 31st.
hasta. --dk
Yes. Beautiful, wonderful nature. Hear it sing to us: *snap* Yes. natURE.
- -
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Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 10:37:01 +0200
From: Cerato Marco <g5003725@uts.univ.trieste.it>
Subject: Re: Zorn List Digest V2 #454
Hi everybody!!
Does anybody have an opoinion about "News for Lulu" and "More news
for Lulu"?
Does anybody know if John Zorn comes in Italy soon?
Grettings from Italy!!!!
- -
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Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 08:03:49 -0400
From: "hijk" <hijk@gateway.net>
Subject: Re: News For Lulu
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Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 08:20:26 -0400 (EDT)
From: Matthew Ross Davis <mrd@artswire.org>
Subject: Re: Zorn List Digest V2 #454
> Does anybody have an opoinion about "News for Lulu" and "More news
> for Lulu"?
They're both excellent discs of Zorn playing trad bebop tunes w/ George
Lewis and Bill Frisell. Highly recommended, but don't expect too much jump
cutting. These are examples of Zorn's "straightest" playing, outside of
Masada, and quite enjoyable.
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Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 08:22:47 -0700
From: Anne & Dan Dellosso <adosso@desupernet.net>
Subject: news for lulu
news for lulu and more news for lulu are pretty much the same. the
first is a studio date and the second is a live date with the exception
of one misha mengelberg song. its a trio with great playing by all, no
rythm section, frisell holds it together pretty well though. they play
tunes by older jazz players like dorham, mobley, redd and sonny
clark. if you like it another project that is close is the sonny clark
memorial quartet put out on black saint records, it features zorn,
horvitz, previte and drummond playing sonny clark standards.
dan
- -
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Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 16:04:56 +0000
From: patRice <gda@pingnet.li>
Subject: tricky.
hi y'all...
don't know if anyone's insterested in the following information, but
i'll let you know anyhow...
besides marc ribot & greg cohen, you can also hear doug wieselman on
tricky's latest offering "angels..."
patRice
- -
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Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 10:19:57 -0400 (EDT)
From: Brent Burton <bburton@CapAccess.org>
Subject: Re: twofer
On Mon, 7 Sep 1998 Sulacco@aol.com wrote:
> now for the twofer. does anyone (patrice?) know of any "good" (you guys know
> what i mean) cd stores in wash. dc?
your best bet for *outside* music is probably vinyl ink in silver
spring. they regularly pick up new stuff from forced exposure (for
example i just bought arthur doyle's "alabama feeling" there). they're
open friday through sunday.
b
- -
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Date: Tue, 8 Sep 98 12:13:31 -0300
From: hulinare@bemberg.com.ar
Subject: Zorn List Digest V2 #454
>Does anybody have an opinion about "News for Lulu" and "More news for
>Lulu"
For me both are pretty great albums. Absolutely worth listening, with
amazing playing from Zorn, Lewis and Frisell (specially).
I've got great difficulty to buy "More News...", but when I finally got
it, I enjoyed it a lot.
As Matthew Davis said, "Highly recommended".
- -Hugo (from Argentina)
- -
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Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 20:08:43 +0400
From: "Edward Lutiy" <iron@orc.ru>
Subject: Paul Simon
Hi!
I saw Paul Simon's photo in a record shop yesterday. Maybe he's a jew too?
Shall I wait for "Great Jewish Music: Paul Simon" CD ???
Ed.
- -
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Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 20:01:26 +0400
From: "Edward Lutiy" <iron@orc.ru>
Subject: Re: News & More News For Lulu
Hello!
Dan Dellosso wrote:
>news for lulu and more news for lulu are pretty much the same.
In my opinion they are not the same. "More News" has more free
interpretations of the tunes, it's not so "straight", the pieces are
longer. The tunes are almost the same but they sound different.
>the first is a studio date and the second is a live date with the
exception
>of one misha mengelberg song.
And one John Patton composition.
- -
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Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 20:58:38 +0200
From: "Artur Nowak" <arno@silesia.top.pl>
Subject: RE: Paul Simon
> I saw Paul Simon's photo in a record shop yesterday.
> Maybe he's a jew too?
Yeah, you can always recognize a Jew by the nose. BTW: what was the name
of the guy in a black shirt, who said something like that more than 50
years back?
Or: did you saw a photo of naked Simon?
__________________________________________________________________
Artur Rosenzweig [arno@silesia.top.DEATHTOSPAMMERS.pl]
www.silesia.top.pl/~arno/default.htm - Discography of Bill Frisell
/ update soon...
- -
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Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 12:53:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: Joshua A Miller <umillj08@umail.ucsb.edu>
Subject: Re: Eugene In Ventura
On Fri, 4 Sep 1998, Keith McMullen wrote:
> Music for Prepared Toaster, Shoe, Screwdriver, and Large Coffee Percolator
> transcended the genre.
>
> Stunning.
>
> s~Z
>
>
>
having been there as well(much thanks for posting it here,keith,
otherwise i never would have known about it), i must say that i agree
100%. for anyone in san fransisco who can't wait until the zorn dates,
chadbourne will be playing a few nights this week, including an in-store
appearance at amoeba (the one on haight) on thursday night, backed by a
country-western band(!) called the earnest tubb memorial band, or
something like that. i'm actually going to be up there for that show, but
i was almost at the point of tears when i found out the first zorn show is
the day after i have to leave. sigh.
josh
- -------------------
Joshua A Miller
umillj08@umail.ucsb.edu
- -
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Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 12:49:09 -0700
From: "Keith McMullen" <mcmullenm@vcss.k12.ca.us>
Subject: Re: Eugene In Ventura
<<i was almost at the point of tears when i found out the first zorn show is
the day after i have to leave. sigh.
josh>>
He frequently sneaks through Santa Barbara unannounced. Keep your eyes
peeled. Of course you'll probably be in SF when he's in SB. I saw Masada in
SB several years back with no mention of it in the usual places.
s~Z
- -
- -
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Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 15:28:49 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Joseph S. Zitt" <jzitt@humansystems.com>
Subject: New Zorn Releases?
Are Aporias, The Bribe, and/or Ganryu Island due out today, or are they
later in the month? I couldn't get a clear answer from where I looked on
the Tzadik site.
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Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 16:49:41 EDT
From: TagYrIt@aol.com
Subject: Re: Paul Simon
<<
> I saw Paul Simon's photo in a record shop yesterday.
> Maybe he's a jew too?
Yeah, you can always recognize a Jew by the nose. BTW: what was the name
of the guy in a black shirt, who said something like that more than 50
years back?
Or: did you saw a photo of naked Simon?
>>
Hhhhhmmmmmm...........
Do we REALLY need to humor this kind of attitude, AT ALL, on this platform? I
certainly don't.
Dale.
- -
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Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 17:11:24 EDT
From: APoesia794@aol.com
Subject: san fran shows
>>Just thought you folks would be interested: the concert dates are at Slim's
>>in San Francisco on Sept. 15 and 16; the first concert is billed as "An
>>Evening with John Zorn, Mike Patton and Dave Lombardo."
>>The one on the 16th is "John Zorn's Xu-Feng with Trey Spruance, John Schott,
>>Chris Brown, Dave Slusser, Dave Lombardo and William Winant / Mike Patton's
>>Feedback Etudes and Phono Sanjo."
is anyone planning on going to either of these shows? please email me
privately. thanks a lot
jason
apoesia794@aol.com
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Date: 08 Sep 1998 23:36:57 GMT
From: Mike_Chamberlain@babylon.montreal.qc.ca (Mike Chamberlain)
Subject: Re: Paul Simon
Artur Nowak,arno@silesia.top.pl,Internet writes:
>> I saw Paul Simon's photo in a record shop yesterday.
>> Maybe he's a jew too?
>
>Yeah, you can always recognize a Jew by the nose. BTW: what was the name
>of the guy in a black shirt, who said something like that more than 50
>years back?
Arthur, I think you're going just a bit overboard here. So Paul Simon looks
Jewish to someone because of his nose or whatever. It's hardly the same as
saying that the only good Jew is a dead one, and then acting on that thought.
>Or: did you saw a photo of naked Simon?
Well, you can't tell that way either. From the waist down, even I look
Jewish (and I also have a rather large schnozz). Two out of two isn't good
enough. :-)
- --Mike
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