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Zorn List Digest        Thursday, July 9 1998        Volume 02 : Number 416



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       alt.coffee; Painkiller
       zorn-list administration (PLEASE READ & SAVE) [very long]
       Re: Beefheart

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Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 19:41:38 -0400 (EDT)
From: Matt Moran <[e-mail]>
Subject: alt.coffee; Painkiller

Jason et al,

About alt.coffee's activities last Monday: the cafe was rented to a film
crew, to make some money (as far as I know).  Unfortunately, the musicians
were only given several days notice, and the non-existent gig was already
listed in the Voice, etc.

As for Painkiller, I've been told that Bill Laswell is bringing in a
24-track board (and sound person) to Tonic, along with _heavy_ duty rock
and roll, I mean amplification.

- -matt

P.S.  Sorry that we weren't able to play on Monday; you can catch us Aug
24th at alt.coffee.


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Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 17:51:20 -0700 (PDT)
From: "m. rizzi" <[e-mail]>
Subject: zorn-list administration (PLEASE READ & SAVE) [very long]

Please read and save this brand spanking new (and lengthy)
version of the zorn-list administration trivia factoid document!
Why save it? So you'll know how to unsubscribe when you go
away on summer vacation. - mike


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Thanks for joining the zorn-list.  Enjoy!

    - mike rizzi, [e-mail]




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Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 01:20:22 -0400
From: Steve Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Beefheart

[e-mail] wrote:

> CD 4- a live show from I'm not sure when.

On the beach in Cannes in 1968, with live video from the same show on the
enhanced CD.  All packaged together with a frighteningly swanky book, accoring to
Dean B.

Yow!

Steve Smith
[e-mail]


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