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From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest)
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Subject: Zorn List Digest V2 #330
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Zorn List Digest Thursday, April 16 1998 Volume 02 : Number 330
In this issue:
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Kato Hideki new release?
Avant World Music
IKUE MORI Recs
Re: Kato Hideki new release?
Edgar Varese
AACM Composer Series
Re: Zorn Purchase
Re: Good music stores in Philadelphia, PA
Recent CDs
cheap cds
Lounge Lizards redux
Re: Tim Berne and Chris Speed April-May tours
Re: Tim Berne and Chris Speed April-May tours
Re: Lounge Lizards redux
RE: Recent Goodies
Cecil Taylor questions
Re: Good music stores in Philadelphia, PA
Life Litania for sell/trade
Re: Cecil Taylor questions
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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 03:40:16 +0800
From: Jan-Wen Lu <janwenlu@top2.ficnet.net.tw>
Subject: Kato Hideki new release?
From the lastest News/Supplement of Downtown Music Gallery. There is a
CD release party of Kato Hideki on May 10th. Any info. on Kato's
upcoming new CD? On Tzadik or other label?
Or it's just the CD release party for the "Dying Ground"(Avant) CD?
Jan-Wen Lu
- -
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Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 14:56:15 -0500
From: Dan Hewins <hewins@synsolutions.com>
Subject: Avant World Music
A month or so ago I got the "Drums of Death" disc on Avant and I've really
enjoyed it. I can't seem to find out what other World Music releases they
have but I am interested. I saw BERNARD WOMA "Live At The Pito Bar" listed
at FE; does anyone know how this one is? Basically any info is appreciated.
Thanks,
Dan
- -
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Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 14:58:00 -0500
From: Dan Hewins <hewins@synsolutions.com>
Subject: IKUE MORI Recs
Any recommendations? I am intrigued and I would like to hear something
involving her. It doesn't neccesarily need to be a session that she leads
either. This is another one I don't know anything about.
Thanks,
Dan
- -
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Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 16:12:06 EDT
From: JonAbbey2 <JonAbbey2@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Kato Hideki new release?
In a message dated 4/15/98 3:45:56 PM, janwenlu@top2.ficnet.net.tw wrote:
<<From the lastest News/Supplement of Downtown Music Gallery. There is a
CD release party of Kato Hideki on May 10th. Any info. on Kato's
upcoming new CD? On Tzadik or other label?
Or it's just the CD release party for the "Dying Ground"(Avant) CD?>>
I'm pretty sure it's for the new Tenko record on Avant being released next
week which Hideki is on.
Jon
- -
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Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 16:25:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: chad edwards <chadhead@rocketmail.com>
Subject: Edgar Varese
I just heard some of Edgar Varese's Poeme
Electronique and wanted to know if anyone can tell me
anything about him. All I know is that he is French.
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- -
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Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 19:38:23 -0400
From: Perfect Sound Forever <perfect-sound@furious.com>
Subject: AACM Composer Series
Hopefully, you've already read about this upcoming show:
Roscoe Mitchell- April 27, 7:30 PM at the Tribeca Performing Arts Center
(199 Chambers St, NYC, 212-346-8510)
The AACM will also be having these concerts latter this year:
Andrew Cyrille- Sept 18th, 8PM, the New York Ethical Cultural Center (2
West 64th Street, NYC, 212-874-5210)
Amina Claudine Myers- Oct. 17th, 8PM, NY Ethical Cultural Center
Muhal Richard Abrams- Nov. 14th, 8PM, NY Ethical Cultural Center
See you there,
Jason
Perfect Sound Forever
online music magazine
perfect-sound@furious.com
http://www.furious.com/perfect
- -
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Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 23:57:45 +0200
From: "Felix" <jonasfel@mail.telepac.pt>
Subject: Re: Zorn Purchase
>The answer would depend stongly on what you'd liked so far -- there's no
>way to tell, for example, whether someone who liked Bar Kochba would like
>the Complete Guide to Strategy or Leng T'che, for example.
Actually, I liked almost everything from Zorn that I've heard. Masada makes
me crazy sometimes (saw them live - absolutely exciting and fascinating -
got to speak with Baron), specailly them more speedy tunes like Mashav or
Kedem (in Seven, i think), but also the sad, depressing tunes like
Idalah-Abal. Spy vs Spy, I like alot too, speacially because Zorn made a
different aproach to songs that had already been taken a different aproach
by it's author, various times. Like speacially his interpretation in Mob
Job. Naked City I adore, from the catchy, sometimes happy, sometimes not,
Naked City to the weird, depressing Absynthe. My relationship with Elegy is
one similar to Absynthe. I love it but find myself listening to it only from
time to time. Sort of like Mike Patton's Pranzo Oltranzista. The Mystic Fugu
Orchestra EP is the weirdest thing I heard Zorn do. It's so weird it
surprised me. I actually thought there was something wrong with my CD player
when I first played that album. Now, I'm not sorry I spent my money on it
but I listen to it even fewer times than I listen to Absynthe or Elegy.
So, basically, I'm looking for stuff that's not so taken to the extreme of
experimental, but also with the Zorn mark in it. I liked Naked City's Grand
Guignol stuff and haven't heard anything like it again (I'm referring, of
course, to the first fourty minutes of the album, i.e., not Torture Garden).
Any further help is appreciated.
Felix
jonasfel@mail.telepac.pt
- -
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Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 19:42:09 EDT
From: QUESOMALO <QUESOMALO@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Good music stores in Philadelphia, PA
In a message dated 98-04-14 04:29:49 EDT, you write:
<< Dear Philozorners!
Could anyone recommend good CD stores in Philadelphia, PA, USA? By "good
music
store" I mean store with Zorn / Zorn-related artists. The same question
about>>
The best is definitely Sounds of Market on 11th street off market. The
third floor is called Jazz sounds and has the best selection and prices in the
city. They've recently started sponsering a series of concerts to get more
interesting musicians to play in Philly. Great store...
There's also Classical Choice (stocks lots of Zorny jazz in addition to
classical) which recently moved from 38th and Walnut to, I believe, around
20th on Locust. Its prices and selection are not nearly as good as Sounds of
Market but they do have some used stuff.
-nick
- -
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Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 20:06:41 -0400 (EDT)
From: William York <wyork@email.unc.edu>
Subject: Recent CDs
My top 2 of the recent months are still Dave Douglas tiny bell # in europe
and Bloodcount discretion, but here are some more things- fringe benefits
of working at a radio station.
Late arriving Avant CDs (these show up every 2 or so weeks)
Erik Friedlander- Chimera (w/ C. Speed, D. Gress, A. D'Angelo) this is a
pretty cool album, chamber jazz, unusual lineup- they
also have one on tzadik- anyone heard this
Joey Baron- Barondown -I was kind of disappointed by this, sounds kind of
empty, esp. on the low end. He has some good tunes
but overall a little restrained
Bobby Previte's Empty Suits- I haven't heard the albums that everyone
mentions, but I'm guessing that this isn't at the
top of the list. Could be a soundtrack, pretty dark and atmospheric, and
a good trombone solo at the endby Robin Eubanks
John Scofield/MMW- blah
Marc Ducret- Un Certain Malaise- I don't know many people who can sustain
a solo electric performance like this, but this stays
interesting. Some of it is like "Dali's Car" by Beefheart,
then there's some pretty cool noise playing on the first one
and some other stuff- this is the 1st I've heard of him so I
don't quite no what to make of it, how it compares w/ his
others, etc
Zorn- Circle Maker- I'm a little less enthusiastic than some people but
Ribot's and Feldman's esp. are fine, although I'm not sold on
all of the songs. High expectations I suppose.
Deconstructing Beck- this is still waiting for review, I better get to it.
Finally, I found the New York Composers Orch (Horvitz, Ehrlich, etc.) on
cassette for $5 and its really good. I didn't know if this was still
available.
Anyway...
- -
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Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 20:21:09 -0700
From: Zorn <gking@win.bright.net>
Subject: cheap cds
has anyone ever ordered from cheap cds? (http://cheap-cds.com/surf/about)
i was wondering how good their service is
thanks
- -matt
- -
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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 00:50:17 -0400
From: Steve Smith <ssmith36@sprynet.com>
Subject: Lounge Lizards redux
First, thanks to those who were able to explain the difference between
the ROIR/Danceteria live release and "Live at the Drunken Boat."
Second, I'm guessing now that "Queen of All Ears" is coming even sooner
than I thought... the new issue of Esquire includes a column mentioning
the two new releases on Strange and Beautiful, "Queen..." and the
sounstrack for "Fishing with John." (Only Mark Perlson knows how my
teeth chatter when you put those last three words in succession... but
never mind me, the shows, currently playing on the Independent Film
Channel, are an amazing drunken pisstake on adventure TV, like Jacques
Cousteau half-pissed and existentialist, and the music's fine, too.
Steve Smith
ssmith36@sprynet.com
- -
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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 00:59:52 -0400 (EDT)
From: Christopher Hamilton <chhst9+@pitt.edu>
Subject: Re: Tim Berne and Chris Speed April-May tours
So, I'm not a huge Berne fan and there's a lot going on in the next couple
of weeks for me musically and personally. As a result I'm undecided on
whether to attend the Paraphrase show here in Pittsburgh next week
(Wednesday, April 22). Could someone describe Paraphrase in enough detail
to indicate to me whether I should bust my ass to get to this one?
Chris Hamilton
- -
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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 01:58:36 -0400
From: Steve Smith <ssmith36@sprynet.com>
Subject: Re: Tim Berne and Chris Speed April-May tours
Christopher Hamilton wrote:
> So, I'm not a huge Berne fan [snip] Could someone describe Paraphrase i=
n
> enough detail to indicate to me whether I should bust my ass to get to =
this
> one?
Obviously I'm not entirely objective, but I've been a Berne fan for a lot
longer than I've worked with him, so let me at least try to answer your
question.If you're not a huge Berne fan because of his compositional styl=
e but
you like his playing, then Paraphrase may be for you because it's freely
improvised, albeit freely improvised by three musicians used to playing
composed music so you won't often mistake this for Peter Br=F6tzmann.
Paraphrase tends to improvise freely until the guys find a form they can =
agree
upon, then improvise within that form. This means they'll shake your boo=
ty at
least as often as they'll shake your fillings.
If you're not a huge Berne fan because of his playing, avoid Paraphrase,
because it's all about playing.
If the length of the average Bloodcount chart turns you off stay away, be=
cause
Paraphrase improvs are longer on average.
But to these admittedly biased ears, Paraphrase spontaneously makes amazi=
ng
music appear out of thin air on any given night. Drew Gress is a great
bassist. And Tom Rainey is the most amazing unsung percussionist in New =
York
(now that everyone knows Jim Black). There are nights he just makes my j=
aw
drop. Some of those nights he's playing standards with Fred Hersch; othe=
rs
find him playing freestyle with Tim and/or Mark Helias. He is Paraphrase=
's
secret weapon. You will agree, this I promise.
Steve Smith
ssmith36@sprynet.com
Paraphrase's unsecret whippet
- -
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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 01:33:33
From: Jesse Simon <umsimo10@cc.UManitoba.CA>
Subject: Re: Lounge Lizards redux
Steve Smith wrote:
>Second, I'm guessing now that "Queen of All Ears" is coming even sooner
>than I thought... the new issue of Esquire includes a column mentioning
>the two new releases on Strange and Beautiful, "Queen..." and the
>sounstrack for "Fishing with John." (Only Mark Perlson knows how my
>teeth chatter when you put those last three words in succession... but
>never mind me, the shows, currently playing on the Independent Film
>Channel, are an amazing drunken pisstake on adventure TV, like Jacques
>Cousteau half-pissed and existentialist, and the music's fine, too.
I'm very interested in finding out more about this new label. There is no
info on the Lounge Lizards web page and ... well ... the Lounge Lizards (in
any incarnation) are pretty much my favorite working jazz band and have
been for a number of years. Will Strange and Beautiful albums be
distributed across north america or will they only be available in new york
and through mail order?
Also ... if anyone has a videotape of Fishing With John, I'd love to get a
copy.
cheers,
jesse
- -
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 07:45:18 -0500
From: "abulafia" <abulafia@i1.net>
Subject: RE: Recent Goodies
Hello all.
I've been getting the list for some time, but have not until know written
in. This is mostly due to not having time so I am always about 2 days
behind the discussion. But that aside.
Recent goodies.
The Painkiller disk set.
This has been talked about allot, so I am sure you all know how good it
truly is.
Sonic Youth/Jim O'Rourke
SYR3
I know there are many SY fans on the list, but that not everyone seam's
completely sold on there notion. This I think is there farthest work on
where Rock can go yet. Beautiful almost concerto like lay out of tracks,
you don't notice precisely where they start & stop. Sweet backing groves,
punctuated by discordant, percussive tones. Lots O" Fun.
Arcana
Arc of testimony
Tons' to love here for the Bill Lazzwell fan in all of us. Plus the
stunningnessosity of Tony Williams. (Yeah so what if stunnignessosity it's
a real phrasamathingy!) Buckethead putt's in a performance worthy of
notice
to the Praxis fan.
David Byrne
Feelings
Certainly in my opinion his best work since the Threads, reminiscent of
naked
era folkrock/swoon stuff. Loved it all day long.
Miles Davis
Pangaea
I'm know by looking at the recent tallies of the Top 20 list's, that I
don't
have to tell anyone about Miles, but this is truly a beautiful record.
OP8
Slush
I've actually had this for some time, so I guess you can't really call it a
recent goodie preset. But it has still had a hard time coming out of my CD
player. Simply a great collection of well written songs, played out at
there own pace. A slow drawn-out kiss of a record, I can't put it down.
Well that is about all, hope you all approve, & if you don't, well, to bad!
Keep on keeping' on.
JohnG
Abulafia.
- -
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 98 08:39:52 -0500
From: brian_olewnick@smtplink.mssm.edu
Subject: Cecil Taylor questions
Spent the last couple of evenings listening to some of my favorite CT
(ie, some of my favorite music), that of the late 60's early 70's:
'Unit Structures', 'Conquistador!', 'Indent' and 'Spring of Two
Blue-J's' (not to mention perhaps the most astonishing performance of
all: his JCOA/Mantler work). To the best of my knowledge, I'm missing
two recordings from that period: 'Praxis' and 'Nuits de la Fondation
Maeght'.
The former was issued on the Greek label of the same name. It
apparently bears the recording date 'June, 1968' though in Damon
Short's on-line discography he mentions "reliable sources" indicating
that it's from around 1972. I recently heard it on radio (bless you,
WKCR) and it did sound to me more in line with 'Indent' than the JCOA
thing. a) Does anyone here know for sure? b) Is this available
anywhere?
The latter (on Shandar?) is from 1969, I think, and is the only
recording so far as I know of Sam Rivers' brief tenure with CT. Again,
does anyone know if this can be found? If it is Shandar, is Robi Droli
planning to release it?
Thanks for any info,
Brian Olewnick
- -
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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 09:02:55 -0400
From: Alan E Kayser <aek1@erols.com>
Subject: Re: Good music stores in Philadelphia, PA
QUESOMALO wrote:
> In a message dated 98-04-14 04:29:49 EDT, you write:
>
> << Dear Philozorners!
>
> Could anyone recommend good CD stores in Philadelphia, PA, USA? By
> "good
> music
> store" I mean store with Zorn / Zorn-related artists. The same
> question
> about>>
>
> The best is definitely Sounds of Market on 11th street off market.
> The
> third floor is called Jazz sounds and has the best selection and
> prices in the
> city. They've recently started sponsering a series of concerts to get
> more
> interesting musicians to play in Philly.
This is not correct. Craig Baylor, an employee of S of M, and I are the
sponsors. We are Sweetnighter Productions, which has no connection to
Sound of Market. Sound of market is in no way connected with our jazz
series, and in fact your statement about their interest in musicians is
way off target.
> Great store...
> There's also Classical Choice (stocks lots of Zorny jazz in
> addition to
> classical) which recently moved from 38th and Walnut to, I believe,
> around
> 20th on Locust. Its prices and selection are not nearly as good as
> Sounds of
> Market but they do have some used stuff.
Classical Choice has contributed to the success of our jazz series, and
in fact has a growing jazz department that carries all of Zorn's
releases. There is also a large used cd selection that is on-line at
cdchoice.com. The name of the store in no way reflects the inventory,
which is about 60-40 on the classical side. It is located at 21st and
Walnut.
These are the facts, my brother.
Alan
BTW, Gerry Hemingway's quartet featuring Ellery Eskelin, Herb Robertson,
and Mark Dresser will be performing on May 22nd at the Unitarian Church,
21st and Chestnut. Craig and I (Sweetnighter Productions) are the
sponsors. Today's City Paper has a nice article on Sweetnighter
Productions, thanks Nate Chinen and City Paper.
> -nick
>
> -
- -
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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 15:31:13 +0200
From: Marcin.Witkowski@wor.tvp.com.pl
Subject: Life Litania for sell/trade
Litania - Tomasz Stanko septet plays music of Krzysztof Komeda is the
best selling jazz album in Europe right now.
I have 90minutes video (VHS-PAL) and double CD-r (made from DAT) from
LIFE Stanko's Litania performance.
Anyone interested in buy/trade e-mail me privately.
Marcin
- -
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 10:03:35 -0400 (EDT)
From: Brent Burton <bburton@CapAccess.org>
Subject: Re: Cecil Taylor questions
On Thu, 16 Apr 1998 brian_olewnick@smtplink.mssm.edu wrote:
> The latter (on Shandar?) is from 1969, I think, and is the only
> recording so far as I know of Sam Rivers' brief tenure with CT. Again,
> does anyone know if this can be found? If it is Shandar, is Robi Droli
> planning to release it?
i think rivers also played on the cecil taylor concert box set on prestige.
i have a terry riley cd (_whirling surgery dervishes_) that was
originally released on shandar and reissued on mantra (i think), so i
imagine that there's always hope.
b
- -
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