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From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest)
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Subject: Zorn List Digest V2 #327
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Zorn List Digest Tuesday, April 14 1998 Volume 02 : Number 327
In this issue:
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Re[2]: recent goodies!
Re: recent goodies!
Re: recent goodies!
Re: THE LOUNGE LIZARDS
Re: recent goodies!
recent goodies
Re: recent goodies!
Pigpen
Re: Pigpen
Re: THE LOUNGE LIZARDS
Minneapolis stores
Re: recent goodies!
Shea "Mort aux vaches"
Re: Minneapolis stores
Tim Berne and Chris Speed April-May tours
Songlines update: Chris Speed tour, Brad Shepik gigs
RE: Circle Maker errors
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 98 09:33:01 -0500
From: brian_olewnick@smtplink.mssm.edu
Subject: Re[2]: recent goodies!
>David Shea's Satyricon, despite poorly written liner notes that attempt an
>explanation of his motivations, is fantastic. He's one of the most
>interesting collagists I've heard. He seems unafraid to sample sounds and
>music that, on their own, are very powerful. He's a chef that isn't afraid
>to serve sauce containing thirty red chillies simply for colour.
Seconded. Also try to find his wonderful 'Mort aux Vaches' on
Staalplaat, a limited edition of 1000, containing live versions of
'Satyricon' and 'Hsi-Yu Chi'.
Ground Zero "Plays Standards" is unbelievably good. I've noticed an
enthusiastic group of Otomo fans here. You should all get this. You'll
yelp for joy.
Seconded again. To the extent one might call them a rock band, they're
the finest rock band around, IMHO.
Recent purchase: Gary Lucas' 'Busy Being Born'. It's generally a great
deal of fun, Lucas fondly recalling songs with a Sephardic tinge from
his youth including 'Dreidel', 'Sunrise, Sunset' and the theme from
'Exodus'. Features several of his standard jaw-dropping exercises like
'The Mensch in the Moon'. JZ guests on a few tracks.
Also, the new WIRE arrived yesterday with a sampler CD (apparently
only available in the US to subscribers) that has more than the usual
amount of interesting music one tends to get on these things. One of
the stand-out cuts is by a UK band called 2nd Gen made up, I take it,
of British citizens of Middle-Eastern ancestry and sounding like a
somewhat junlge-ized updating of God (the group, not that other
deity). Anyone here heard of these guys? The disc also contains a
track from Arto Lindsay's new 'Noon Chill' that's pretty nice.
Brian Olewnick
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Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 00:11:15 +1000
From: "Julian" <jcurwin@hartingdale.com.au>
Subject: Re: recent goodies!
> Ground Zero "Plays Standards" is unbelievably good. I've noticed an
> enthusiastic group of Otomo fans here. You should all get this. You'll
> yelp for joy.
What exactly is meant by "standards" in the Ground Zero context?
- -
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 10:29:12 -0400
From: cdeupree@interagp.com (Caleb Deupree)
Subject: Re: recent goodies!
>>>>> "Julian" == Julian <jcurwin@hartingdale.com.au> writes:
Julian> What exactly is meant by "standards" in the Ground Zero
Julian> context?
Another vote for a wonderful album. Standards which are generally
known include Those Were the Days, Washington Post March, Bones
(Massacre), Where is the Police (Misha Mengelberg), Bath of Surprise
(Steve Beresford), I Say a Little Prayer (Roland Kirk version), plus a
samba, and Japanese TV, pop and film music.
- ---
Caleb T. Deupree
;; Opinions are not necessarily shared by management
Computers are useless. They can only give you answers.
(Pablo Picasso)
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 08:02:08 -0700
From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <proussel@ichips.intel.com>
Subject: Re: THE LOUNGE LIZARDS
On Tue, 14 Apr 1998 01:37:33 -0400 Steve Smith wrote:
>
> hulinare@bemberg.com.ar wrote:
>
> > Is there anybody out there who knows the entire LOUNGE LIZARDS
> > discography (including labels)?
>
> The Queen of All Ears (coming in 1998) Strange and Beautiful Music
> I think there was also a live cassette on ROIR which may or may not be
> available on CD, called "Live from the Drunken Barge" or something
> equally colorful.
Sure:
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
034 - LIVE 1979/81: Lounge Lizards
John Lurie: alto; Evan Lurie: piano, organ; Steve Piccolo: bass; Anton Fier:
drums; Arto Lindsay (8,9,10): guitar; Dana Vlcek (4,7): guitar; Danny Rosen
(1,2,3,5,6,11,12): guitar.
1985 - ROIR (USA), A-136 (CT)
???? - Danceteria (France), DANCD046 (CD)
???? - Roir Europe/Danceteria Records, RE136CD (CD)
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Strange and Beautiful Music is Lurie's own new label, currently
> negotiating a distribution deal. They'll be issuing both the long lost
> 1996 recording "The Queen of All Ears," which was made for Luaka Bop but
> dropped due to a personality dispute, and an all-new Lizards album as
> well, which is great news since I find the current Lizards hypnotic to
> the extreme. Check out http://www.inch.com/~lagarto for more details on
> all things lizardly.
That's a great news. This new LL was announced almost two years ago and I
was wondering it would eventually come up.
Patrice.
- -
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 11:42:54 -0500
From: Dan Hewins <hewins@synsolutions.com>
Subject: Re: recent goodies!
I picked up a bunch of things lately... It seems I have some sort of addiction.
I probably don't really need to mention Zorn's Filmworks VIII but I will
anyway. I have avoided the Filmworks discs in the past because I didn't
like to have a million short tracks. VIII is different though, it
basically has songs and they're all at least three minutes long. If you
like Bar Kohkba (sp?) and Circle Maker (and Masada for that matter) and
don't have this Filmworks, go get it.
Even though I think it can get cheesy I find myself going back to Marc
Johnson's latest with Frisell/Metheny/Baron, "The Sound of Summer Running."
I can't relly put my finger on why I like it but I bet it's Frisell and
Baron. I have tried to like Pat Meteny but I just can't. However, there
are a couple I enjoy, "Bright Size Life" (with Jaco) and Joshua Redman's
"Wish." Wish has a killer lineup for 1990s straight-ahead stuff: Charlie
Hayden, Billy Higgins, and Metheny.
I got Pigpen "Daylight" recently as well. It's much more chillin' than the
others. I would say that "Miss Ann" grooves, "V as in Victim" is
heavy-metal jazz, and the live one sort of mixes it all together. Daylight
has some nice tunes on there, a couple are also on the Zony Mash disc. It
would seem that he's recycling tunes (there are four on here that are used
on other Zony Mash or Pigpen) but they fit in nicely.
That's all for now.
Dan
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 13:28:25 -0400 (EDT)
From: ia zha nah er vesen <jwnarves@csclub.uwaterloo.ca>
Subject: recent goodies
'Circle Maker'...ahhh.....
- -jascha
- -
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 14:34:05 -0400 (EDT)
From: Brent Burton <bburton@CapAccess.org>
Subject: Re: recent goodies!
the newly reissued (okkadisk) joe mcphee / ken vandermark / kent kessler
_a meeting in chicago_ cd is really worthwhile. the original release was
actually in late 1997, so i guess it must have been a very limited pressing.
anyway, like other okka titles, the packaging is great and the music has
that breathy, sparse, studied quality that i love about joe mcphee. he
totally blew me away when i saw him live last summer.
i also picked up the _noah howard quartet_ cd on esp last night, since all
those titles are rapidly descending into out of print status again. and
it got me to thinking how esp was to free jazz what blue note was to hard
bop - just about anything you pick up on that label is good. hovering
somewhere in the stratosphere between ayler's folk meldies and the
swerving alto-sax lines of coleman, the only problem with this disc is
that at 30 minutes it's just too short.
b
- -
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 13:48:30 -0500
From: Dan Hewins <hewins@synsolutions.com>
Subject: Pigpen
I want to find out how the EP "Halfrack" is without buying it. Does anyone
have it? Is it worth getting if I like the Pigpen stuff, barring "V as in
Victim?"
Thanks,
Dan
- -
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 13:11:49 -0700
From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <proussel@ichips.intel.com>
Subject: Re: Pigpen
On Tue, 14 Apr 1998 13:48:30 -0500 Dan Hewins wrote:
>
> I want to find out how the EP "Halfrack" is without buying it. Does anyone
> have it? Is it worth getting if I like the Pigpen stuff, barring "V as in
> Victim?"
It is a fantastic EP. If you like Pigpen as much as me, you will love it.
This was the first Pigpen record ever released and I remember how impatient
I was for the next (and first full-length).
Patrice.
- -
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 15:30:16
From: Jesse Simon <umsimo10@cc.UManitoba.CA>
Subject: Re: THE LOUNGE LIZARDS
>Steve Smith wrote:
>> I think there was also a live cassette on ROIR which may or may not be
>> available on CD, called "Live from the Drunken Barge" or something
>> equally colorful.
Then Sean Terwilliger wrote:
>I've got a CD on ROIR Europe called Live 1979-81.
The Live album on ROIR and Live from the Drunken Boat are two completely
separate albums. Live from the Drunken Boat was recorded in 1983 and
features John and Evan Lurie plus Peter Zummo on Trombone and the strangely
guitarless rhtyhm section of Tony Garnier and Dougie Bowne. As far as I
know it is not available on CD.
There is also another album which features the Lounge Lizards. It is called
FUSION and is a series of compositions by Teo Macero. The title piece is
written for Symphony Orchestra and Jazz Quintet and features the lounge
lizards skronking and swinging their way through some fairly dense
orchestral sounds. It's a good if strange collaboration. For what it's
worth, I keep my copy filed under Lounge Lizards.
>>Strange and Beautiful Music is Lurie's own new label, currently
>>negotiating a distribution deal. They'll be issuing both the long lost
>>1996 recording "The Queen of All Ears," which was made for Luaka Bop but
>>dropped due to a personality dispute, and an all-new Lizards album
That just brightens up my year immeasurably.
cheers,
jesse
- -
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 17:16:02 -0700
From: Zorn <gking@win.bright.net>
Subject: Minneapolis stores
since people are asking about stores....how about Minneapolis?
i usually go to Let it Be
are there better or cheaper stores? (mainly for avant/experimental)
- -
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 18:14:32 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ken Waxman <cj649@freenet.toronto.on.ca>
Subject: Re: recent goodies!
If you liked Howard's quartet disk, try to get "Live At Judson Hall" also
on ESP. It's with a quintet (sextet) including Sirone and Dave Burell.
Much more textural music, because there are more players involved. Howard
is also touring the US around right now and should have some new CDs out
soon.
As for "A Meeting In Chicago". I have the original issue on Eighth
Day Music. Is there *anything* different about this one than the other.
And why was a year-old CD reissued?
Ken Waxman
cj649@torfree.net
On Tue, 14 Apr 1998, Brent Burton wrote:
>
> the newly reissued (okkadisk) joe mcphee / ken vandermark / kent kessler
> _a meeting in chicago_ cd is really worthwhile. the original release was
> actually in late 1997, so i guess it must have been a very limited pressing.
> anyway, like other okka titles, the packaging is great and the music has
> that breathy, sparse, studied quality that i love about joe mcphee. he
> totally blew me away when i saw him live last summer.
>
> i also picked up the _noah howard quartet_ cd on esp last night, since all
> those titles are rapidly descending into out of print status again. and
> it got me to thinking how esp was to free jazz what blue note was to hard
> bop - just about anything you pick up on that label is good. hovering
> somewhere in the stratosphere between ayler's folk meldies and the
> swerving alto-sax lines of coleman, the only problem with this disc is
> that at 30 minutes it's just too short.
>
> b
>
> -
>
>
- -
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 18:28:23 -0400
From: Alain Potvin <louisp@destination.ca>
Subject: Shea "Mort aux vaches"
I read a few weeks ago in this mailing list that David Shea "mort aux
vaches" is very hard to find. (limited edition 1000 copy). I find it last
week-end at
Kim's video and music in NYC. They still have few copy. They don't have it
at Downtown music gallery.
The adress:
6 St Mark Place
NYC
Alain Potvin
1296 Julien
St-Felicien
Quebec, Canada
- -
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 18:15:11 -0500
From: magnum-jihad@juno.com (Nathan M Earixson)
Subject: Re: Minneapolis stores
On Tue, 14 Apr 1998 17:16:02 -0700 Zorn <gking@win.bright.net> writes:
>since people are asking about stores....how about Minneapolis?
>i usually go to Let it Be
>are there better or cheaper stores? (mainly for avant/experimental)
>
between Oarfolkjokepus, Roadrunner, The Electric Fetus, KnowName and
The Cheapo-Applause combo in St Paul, I can find more weird stuff than I
can possibly afford and/or listen to.
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- -
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 20:52:02 -0400
From: Steve Smith <ssmith36@sprynet.com>
Subject: Tim Berne and Chris Speed April-May tours
Sorry for the quasi-commercial intrusion:
April-May tour dates for Tim Berne's Paraphrase (east coast and midwest)
and Chris Speed's yeah, no (WA, OR, CA, Vancouver) can be found at the
Screwgun website:
http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/ssmith36/livedate.htm
E-mail me if you can't see the website.
Back to your regularly scheduled mayhem.
Steve Smith
ssmith36@sprynet.com
- -
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Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 18:27:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tony Reif <treif@songlines.com>
Subject: Songlines update: Chris Speed tour, Brad Shepik gigs
Chris Speed's Yeah No is performing at the Knitting Factory's Old Office
April 15-19 before heading off on a west coast tour:
April 24 Seattle O.K. Hotel
April 25 Vancouver Western Front
April 26 Bellingham Stewart's Coffee House
April 27 Ellensburg afternoon clinic, evening concert
April 28 Portland Bijou Cafe
April 29 Eugene Sam Bond's Garage
May 1 Santa Cruz Kuumba Jazz
May 2 San Francisco The Sweat Shop
May 3 San Diego Spruce Street Forum
May 4 Los Angeles Luna Park
Yeah No consists of Chris on tenor & clarinet, Cuong Vu on trumpet, Skuli
Sverrisson on electric bass, and Jim Black on drums. Their first CD was
released last summer on Songlines.
"With equal parts rhapsodic lyricism, compositonal integrity, and
freak-jazz freedom Speed's quartet delivers invigorating new music which
hints at the shape of jazz to come."
Trey Hatch, The Stranger
"Here is an improvising saxophonist influenced as much by Elliot Carter
ellipsis and Bartok folk studies as he is by Rollins or Coltrane. Yet,
while the vocabulary may not be blues based the feeling conveyed speaks in
a distinctive delta blues patois...Modern impressionist gutbucket...."
Joseph Murphy, 5/4 Magazine
"Chris Speed is a crucial newer voice on tenor saxophone....Speed's writing
suggests a vast store of wide open ideas, loose melodies and modes (which
work well here with the electric bass threading his needle from number to
number) and the skills to hand over the goods in high style. Black is
always interesting and ferocious, Cuong Vu is another new voice emerging
surely and with individuality. But it's Speed's day and he is enjoying
himself here, doing what he does and with fire, soul and a big brain."
Spike Taylor, Exclaim!
Chris is also the co-leader of Human Feel, whose latest CD, Speak to It,
was released on Songlines in 1996, and Pachora (along with Brad Shepik, Jim
Black and Skuli Sverrisson), whose first CD was released last year on
Knitting Factory Works. He is also a member of Jerry Granelli's band
Badlands, whose debut CD will be released on Songlines in June, and of Tim
Berne's Bloodcount, Myra Melford's The Same River, Twice, Dave Douglas's
sextet, and Erik Friedlander's Chimera as well as various other NY-based
groups.
Meanwhile, Brad Shepik and the Commuters are holding forth at the Bell Cafe
in New York Sat. April 18 and 25 at 9:30 p.m. and at the Cornelia St. Cafe
Sat. May 2 at 9:00 p.m. Brad plays mostly electric guitar and electric saz
in this group, and the Commuters are Peter Epstein on soprano & alto, Skuli
Sverrisson on electric bass, Michael Sarin on drums, and Seido Salifoski on
dumbek and percussion. Their CD "The Loan" was released last fall on
Songlines.
"Ever-active fretmaster Brad Shepik excels in a vein of ethnic improv that
mines Middle Eastern and southern European sources with real wit and
passion....His playing has real flair, and the material is deep, spirited
stuff - full of appeal not only for the avant-jazz crowd but also for world
music fans and the hippie-groove contingent."
Bradley Bambarger, Billboard
Shepik is one of downtown's most exciting guitarists....Virtuoso
rootless-cosmopolitan groovesmanship at its finest...."
Richard Gehr, Village Voice (also ten best for 1997, Folk Roots)
"Shepik takes a less is more approach to the material with close melodic
development and attention to dynamic range....With emphasis on instrumental
and ensemble texture, The Loan cuts a sharp path to the door of enduring,
world musics while maintaining an improvisational link to jazz."
Joseph Murphy, 5/4 Magazine
Apart from his playing with Dave Douglas in the Tiny Bell Trio, Brad is
co-leader of Pachora and of BABKAS (whose three CDs are on Songlines) and a
member of Paul Motian's Electric Bebop Band, Matt Darriau's Paradox Trio,
Carla Bley's Escalator Over the Hill, and Owen Howard's quintet.
Tony Reif (Songlines Recordings)
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Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 03:58:17 +0000
From: Dwight Haden <dhaden@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: RE: Circle Maker errors
>Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 19:13:32 +0000
>From: "Charles Gillett" <gill0042@tc.umn.edu>
>The liner notes for the first disc, "Issachar," list "Bikkurim" as
>track 12 and "Idalah-Abal" as track 13. However, track 12 is actually
>"Elilah," and track 13 is actually "Meholalot." Hopefully further
>listening won't reveal more mistakes.
>
>Aha! The Tzadik web page has the correct titles for the tracks. I
>just checked. None of the other track names have been changed. I
>suppose I could edit the message, but this way you get to share in
>the discovery with me.
>
>Actually, they call track 12 "Elijah," but according to Masada 8/Het
>it's "Elilah."
My copy of Circle Maker (which I bought 2 weeks ago from DMG) lists the
corrected song titles for 12 and 13. Track 12 is shown as Elilah.
At the time I bought it, every local and/or web based retailer I checked
seemed to be "out-of-stock/backordered" on Circle Maker. It appeared to
have been taken out of production by Tzadik.
If I remember correctly, Bar Kokhba was also yanked from production soon
after release, but in this case to replace a track or two with an alternate
recording. Has anyone ever confirmed this? Are there 2 slightly different
versions of Bar Kokhba out there?
Dwight Haden === dhaden@worldnet.att.net
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