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From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest)
To: zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Zorn List Digest V2 #289
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Zorn List Digest Thursday, April 2 1998 Volume 02 : Number 289
In this issue:
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20
Re: Fire label query
Re: CAKE (was 20 before)
Re: CAKE (was 20 before)
Re: Top 20
Re: 20 essential records (fwd)
top 20 so far
Re: 20 essential records (fwd)
Re: 20 essential records (fwd)
Re: 20 essential records (fwd)
Re: 20 essential records (fwd)
20 is not enough
Re: 20 is not enough
Top 20
looking for some info on these albums
top 20
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Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 12:27:39 +0200
From: Friedrich Feger <ffeger@gwdg.de>
Subject: 20
Are you all mad?! I go bust! I blame you all for making me poor and
neglecting things I thought to be important. So shut the fuck up! *grin*
Here's my cup of poison, trying to be true as opposed to ambitious. Beeing
miles away from my CDs, here's my freestyle-instant-top 20:
Miles Davis: Kind of Blue
Miles Davis: Nefertiti
Miles Davis: On The Corner
Miles Davis: Amandla
John Coltrane: Ballads (hard to leave others unmentioned)
Al Jarreau: This Time (not because of every tune on it...)
A Tribe Called Quest: Midnight Marauders
Plug: Drum 'n' Bass For Papa
Dionne Warwick: The Best Of (Rhino, Compilation)
Rickie Lee Jones: Pop Pop
Naked City
Paul Motian / Joe Lovano / Bill Frisell: On Broadway II
Earth, Wind And Fire: The Best Of Vol. I (Compilation)
Genesis: The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway
Bill Frisell: Have A Little Faith
Nat King Cole: Let's Fall In Love (Compilation) (Not mainly for the songs
but for the voice...)
Tom Waits: Rain Dogs
James Brown: Star Time (sorry, 4-CD-Best-Of-Compilation...)
Donald Fagen: The Nightfly
Richard Strau=DF: Vier Letzte Lieder (Jessie Norman)
The hypothetic island-situation suffices to cause nightmares. As I look at
my list, there is pretty much mainstream on it. Seems to be more
sustainable than some avant things. I am amused that so many people outed
themselves that way as I did.
Fritz.
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Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 05:50:03 -0500
From: pm.carey@utoronto.ca (Patrick Carey)
Subject: Re: Fire label query
Well sheesh, this'll teach me not to pipe up when I've got
minimal info ... ;-b Should have looked at my Soleilmoon
catalogs first!!
Thanks SUGAR, for the informative history and discog.
>Fire has been around in one way or
>another since 1993. their first
>release was a CD compilation
>titled "F.I.R.E." and included
>tracks by various notable Icelandic
>bands such as Curver, Bellatrix
>(aka Purkur Pyllnck, excuse the
>spelling, but they changed their
>name to Bellatrix), Pff and
>Stilluppsteypa. in fact, the label
>is run by those fun-loving
>Icelandic boys also known as
>Stilluppsteypa. to date, Fire
>has released a handful of records:
>f-1 F.I.R.E. Various Artists compact disc
>f-2 STILLUPPSTEYPA + CURVER Inside AM 7 inch
>f-3 PLASTIK Hrna cassette
>f-6 HAFLER TRIO The day I married the world 7 inch
>f-7 IRR.APP.(EXT.) An uncertain animal, ruptured... compact disc
>(just released)
>f-8 STILLUPPSTEYPA One side mona lisa... compact disc
>f-9 REPTILICUS Craters 7 inch
>f-10 HAFLER TRIO Whistling about chickens compact disc (sold out,
>but not yet released)
>f-11 STOCK, HAUSEN & WALKMAN Empty box 10 inch
>f-13 STILLUPPSTEYPA & IRR.APP.(EXT.) Tpith or tetapth compact disc
>f-14 CM VON HAUSSWOLFF To make things happen... compact disc
>f-15 STILLUPPSTEYPA Reduce by reducing 12 inch/compact disc (not
>yet released)
Geez, don't know what I was thinkin'. I've read reviews of at least
4 or 5 of these records ... never paid attention to the label I guess.
[O'Rourke 10"]
this is actually released by
Something Records (same folks
who put out the Stilluppsteypa
and Melt Banana split 10" from
a few years ago) and is
distributed by Fire, but is
not a Fire release.
That would explain why I've seen it listed as being on both
Something and (mistakenly) Fire Inc. _Some_ mail-order outfits
just don't seem to be as on the ball as others ...
- -Patrick
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Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 13:30:26 +0200 (MESZ)
From: BJOERN <bjoern.eichstaedt@student.uni-tuebingen.de>
Subject: Re: CAKE (was 20 before)
> >> What's the scoop on CAKE? Someone else mentioned them to me the other day.
> >>
> >well CAKE are an amazing band from the US (i guess California am not sure
> >though)... their style can be described as alternative country-rock with
> >weird elements and funny lyrics...musically they are amazing. especially
> >their arrangements are completely weird...reminds me of some Zappa stuff!!!!
>
> Didn't they have a "big hit single on the charts" a year or so ago? I
> remember someone recommending their disc but I kinda blew it off. Can
> anyone clue me in?
yepp they did that nice cover version of I WILL SURVIVE..
B
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Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 13:36:22 +0200 (MESZ)
From: BJOERN <bjoern.eichstaedt@student.uni-tuebingen.de>
Subject: Re: CAKE (was 20 before)
> yeah. Their version of "I Will Survive" and "She's Going The Distance"
> (I'm not sure of the real title but that's the repeated chorus line)
> were around radio waves a lot about a year ago until the end of this
> summer. I've heard the entire disc (the newest one) and think it's
> altogether forgettable except for the "She's Going The Distance" (or
> whatever) which completely rules.
the song is called THE DISTANCE and it`s: HE`s going...not SHE...
i have to disagree completely on this...the disc in a complete is one of
the finest rock albums ever recorded and has some tunes that are damn
amazing, for example ITALIAN LEATHER SOFA which is the greatest song of
the whole album..... these songs are all beautiful as hell...and the
guitarstyle is unique
BJOERN
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Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 13:38:38 +0200 (MESZ)
From: BJOERN <bjoern.eichstaedt@student.uni-tuebingen.de>
Subject: Re: Top 20
> I'm still working on mine, but I hope someone's compiling a "zorn-list
> most mentioned top 20 albums" !
already working on that since i am the stupid guy who brought that up...
damn am i stupid LOL : )
B
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Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 13:58:27 +0200 (MESZ)
From: BJOERN <bjoern.eichstaedt@student.uni-tuebingen.de>
Subject: Re: 20 essential records (fwd)
- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 12:58:49 EST
From: Knutboy <Knutboy@aol.com>
To: bjoern.eichstaedt@student.uni-tuebingen.de
Subject: Re: 20 essential records
1. Scott Walker "Boychild"
2. Rolling Stones "Exile On Main Street"
3. Gram Parsons "Return Of The Grievous Angel"
4. Pere Ubu "The Modern Dance"
5. Bob Dylan "Blood On The Tracks"
6. Beach Boys "Pet Sounds"
7. Masada "The Circle Marker"
8. Merle Haggard "The Capitol Years"
9. Roxy Music "For Your Pleasure"
10. Sun Ra "Out There a Minute"
11. Tougher Than The Rest-Island 4 CD Reggae compilation
12. Captain Beefheart "Safe As Milk"
13. Can "Cannabilism 1"
14. Elvis Presley "The Sun Sessions"
15. Little Richard "Specialty Years" Box set
16. Miles Davis- almost anything
17. John Coltrane "Love Supreme"
18. Ornette Coleman "Beauty Is a Rare Thing"
19. Louis Armstrong "WC Handy"
20. Dock Boggs
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Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 13:57:06 +0200 (MESZ)
From: BJOERN <bjoern.eichstaedt@student.uni-tuebingen.de>
Subject: top 20 so far
so i went through several top 20s that have been sent and there are some
tendencies:
Torture Garden seems to be Zorn`s record that gets mentioned pretty often.
Genesis gets mentioned as much as King Crimson (which confused me a bit
although i had albums of both of them in my list)
Miles Davis has one record in nearly all the lists.
i guess there are much too much lists to do a definite list......
dont know if i`ll have the time....if someone else wants to do oit i`ll
forward the lists that i got privately when this whole thing started
BJOERN
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Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 13:58:52 +0200 (MESZ)
From: BJOERN <bjoern.eichstaedt@student.uni-tuebingen.de>
Subject: Re: 20 essential records (fwd)
- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 98 12:44:16 -0500
From: brian_olewnick@smtplink.mssm.edu
To: "bjoern.eichstaedt" <bjoern.eichstaedt@student.uni-tuebingen.de>
Subject: Re: 20 essential records
Bjoern,
Ok, you asked for it:
1. Frederic Rzewski The People United... Hat Art 1986
2. Charles Mingus Let My Children Hear Music Columbia
3. Harry Partch Delusion of the Fury Columbia
4. Ornette Coleman Science Fiction Columbia
5. Michael Mantler/JCOA Communications JCOA/Watt
6. Charles Mingus Presents Charles Mingus Candid
7. George Lewis Homage to Charles Parker Black Saint
8. Charles Mingus Mingus Ah Um Columbia
9. Roscoe Mitchell Congliptious Nessa
10.Art Ensemble of Chicago Les Stances a Sophie Nessa
11.Duke Ellington New Orleans Suite Atlantic
12.Gavin Bryars Sinking.../Jesus' Blood Obscure
13.Julius Hemphill 'Coon Bid'ness Arista
14.Glenn Branca The Ascension Neutral
15.Carla Bley/Paul Haines Escalator Over the Hill JCOA/Watt
16.Steve Reich Drumming DG
17.Dave Holland Conference of the Birds ECM
18.Anthony Braxton New York, Fall, 1974 Arista
19.Art Ensemble of Chicago People in Sorrow Nessa
20.Cecil Taylor Indent Arista
As you might guess, I've put some thought into this list (and more!)
previously, so I had it at the ready. You also might be able to
discern that, for me, the late 60's and early 70's were the source of
some great music.
No, no Zorn makes the list, thought had you asked for best releases of
the 80's and 90's, he would have been well represented.
Happy listening,
Brian Olewnick
______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Subject: 20 essential records
Author: BJOERN <bjoern.eichstaedt@student.uni-tuebingen.de> at SMTP-for-MSSM
Date: 3/31/98 2:07 PM
1. PLEASE ANSWER PRIVATELY!!!! i am sure several people would be pissed
if you send the answers to the list THANX
2. This one goes mainly to people with CD/LP collections bigger than 1000
CDs/LPs (most of you guys I guess)
so this morning i looked through my record collection this way: WHAT
RECORDS WOULD I KEEP IF I COULD ONLY KEEP 20 OF THEM?????
so what records would u guys keep if you could only keep 20 of your
records????
i am interested in that because i am looking for essential records that i
do not have yet and i am in the mood of selling lots of my stuff that is
not THAT great!
BJOERN
http://www.cityinfonetz.de/uni/homepage/bjoern.eichstaedt
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Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 13:57:58 +0200 (MESZ)
From: BJOERN <bjoern.eichstaedt@student.uni-tuebingen.de>
Subject: Re: 20 essential records (fwd)
- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 12:12:14 -0500 (EST)
From: Brent Burton <bburton@CapAccess.org>
To: BJOERN <bjoern.eichstaedt@student.uni-tuebingen.de>
Subject: Re: 20 essential records
On Tue, 31 Mar 1998, BJOERN wrote:
> so what records would u guys keep if you could only keep 20 of your
> records????
this is so self-indulgent of me:
this heat _deceipt_
albert ayler _spiritual unity_
roscoe mitchell art ensemble _congliptious_
derek bailey _aida_
son house _death letter_
codeine _frigid stars_
ornette coleman _beauty is a rare thing_ box set
john coltrane _impressions_
congos _heart of the congos_
slint _spiderland_
black flag _first four years_
tom waits _swordfishtrombones_
bob dylan _blood on the tracks_
nick drake _pink moon_
marion brown _geechee recollections_
the minutemen _what makes a man start fires_
television _marquee moon_
charles mingus _mingus, mingus, mingus, mingus, mingus_
edgar varese _the music of edgar varese_
john zorn _spy vs. spy_
wow, that's just off the top of my head and nowhere near complete. it
would be much too hard to stop @ 20
b
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Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 13:59:37 +0200 (MESZ)
From: BJOERN <bjoern.eichstaedt@student.uni-tuebingen.de>
Subject: Re: 20 essential records (fwd)
- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 20:23:30 -0500 (EST)
From: Christopher Hamilton <chhst9+@pitt.edu>
To: BJOERN <bjoern.eichstaedt@student.uni-tuebingen.de>
Subject: Re: 20 essential records
Bjoern--
I'm shocked that you would find this useful, but I enjoy doing this kind
of thing, so here goes (in alphabetical order):
Albert Ayler, _Spiritual Unity_
Derek Bailey, _Aida_ and _Drop Me Off at 96th_
Peter Brotzmann, _Machine Gun_
Ornette Coleman, _Body Meta_, _Dancing in Your Head_, _Free Jazz_, and
_This Is Our Music_
Miles Davis, _Bags' Groove_, _On the Corner_, and _Pangaea_
Brian Eno, _Discreet Music_ and _Neroli_
Yoko Ono, _Yoko Ono/Plastic Ono Band_
Sun Ra, _Atlantis_ and _Cosmic Tones for Mental Therapy_
Cecil Taylor, _For Olim_
Tricky, _Maxinquaye_
Velvet Underground, _White Light/White Heat_
John Zorn, _Locus Solus_
That's out of around 1300 records, since base size seemed to matter.
Hope this helps,
Chris Hamilton
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Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 13:59:13 +0200 (MESZ)
From: BJOERN <bjoern.eichstaedt@student.uni-tuebingen.de>
Subject: Re: 20 essential records (fwd)
- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 10:24:55 PST
From: Silent Watcher <silent_watcher@hotmail.com>
To: bjoern.eichstaedt@student.uni-tuebingen.de
Subject: Re: 20 essential records
20???? That's a rough, rough question! Well, here goes (mind you, this
20 would probably be a little different if you asked me again tomorrow!)
:
1) Isaac Hayes - Best of Volume 1 (Stax)
2) Stravinsky - Conducts "The Rite of Spring" & "Petrushka" (CBS)
3) The Beatles - The White Album (Parlophone)
4) The Beatles - Revolver (Parlophone)
5) Sonny Sharrock - Ask the Ages (Axiom)
6) Alice Coltrane - Journey In Satchidananda (Impulse!)
7) David Shea - The Prisoner (Sub Rosa)
8) Slotek - 7 (WordSound)
9) Bootsy Collins - Back in the Day...Best of (Warner Bros.)
10) John Coltrane - The Impulse! Years (Impulse!)
11) Burning Spear - Marcus Garvey/Garvey's Ghost (Mango)
12) Bob Marley - Legend (Island)
13) Bob Marley - Dreams of Freedom (Axiom)
14) Mad Professor - The Lost Scrolls of Moses (Ariwa)
15) Material - Seven Souls (Axiom)
16) Flying Mijinko Band - Central Asian Tour (Japan Foundation)
17) Naked City - Radio (Avant)
18) Masada - Alef (DIW)
19) Laswell/Inoue - Cymatic Scan (Subharmonic)
20) Painkiller - Complete Studio Recordings (Tzadik)
Whew!
SW
For Sale/Want List and Laswell Discography at
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Underground/7093
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Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 09:00:36 -0300
From: "A.Bueno" <jabu@sminter.com.ar>
Subject: 20 is not enough
No special order
ZAPPA Weasels rippes my flesh
C.BEEFHEART Shiny Beast
HENDRIX Band of Gypsies
K.CRIMSON Starless and bible black
ROLAND KIRK Infalted tear
COLTRANE Live in Japan
ART ENSEMBLE OF CHICAGO Full Force
XENAKIS Kraanerg
G.SCELSI SUITES #9 & 10
CAGE SONATAS & INTERLUDES FOR PREPARED PIANO
MILES DAVIS Agharta
HERMETO PASCOAL Live at Montreux
SUN RA Live at montreux
JOHNNY WINTER And live
ALLMAN BROTHERS Live at Fillmore
INVISIBLE Invisible
TEN YEARS AFTER Undead
BLOODCOUNT Unwound
TIM BUCKLEY Lorca
BRAXTON Koln 72
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Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 09:30:11 -0300
From: "A.Bueno" <jabu@sminter.com.ar>
Subject: Re: 20 is not enough
A.Bueno wrote:
>
> No special order
>
> ZAPPA Weasels rippes my flesh
> C.BEEFHEART Shiny Beast
> HENDRIX Band of Gypsies
> K.CRIMSON Starless and bible black
> ROLAND KIRK Infalted tear
> COLTRANE Live in Japan
> ART ENSEMBLE OF CHICAGO Full Force
> XENAKIS Kraanerg
> G.SCELSI SUITES #9 & 10
> CAGE SONATAS & INTERLUDES FOR PREPARED PIANO
> MILES DAVIS Agharta
> HERMETO PASCOAL Live at Montreux
> SUN RA Live at montreux
> JOHNNY WINTER And live
> ALLMAN BROTHERS Live at Fillmore
> INVISIBLE Invisible
> TEN YEARS AFTER Undead
> BLOODCOUNT Unwound
> TIM BUCKLEY Lorca
> BRAXTON Koln 72
>
> -
how could i forget
ornette coleman shape of jazz..
santana ,lotus
vienna art orchestra ,suiteof green eighties
irene schweitzer ,many and one direction
messiaen,coleurs de la cite cel...
john adams, shaker loops
conlon nancarrow,sudies for piano
stevie ray vaughan,texas flood
jethro tull,aqualung
gentle giant,live
charlie mingus,live at antibes
eric dolphy,out to lunch
ligeti,Mechanical works
cecil taylor 3 phasis
someck & sharp ,revenge of...
mahavishnu orchestra ,between nothing....
elp, brain salad surgery
cactus same
led zeppelin 1st
focus, moving waves
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Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 07:05:57 -0800
From: Zorn <gking@win.bright.net>
Subject: Top 20
(in no particular order)-(BASED OFF OF WHAT CDS I WOULD WANT TO LISTEN TO IF
I COULD ONLY TAKE 20 ON A TRIP)
MR BUNGLE - DISCO VOLANTE
BOREDOMS - SOUL DISCHARGE
SHIZUO - FUCKSTEP '98
APHEX TWIN - RICHARD D JAMES or SAW II
JOHN ZORN - HOCKEY
NAKED CITY - TORTURE GARDEN
CARL STALLING - PROJECT VOLUME 1
JOHN ZORN - ELEGY
JOHN ZORN - KRISTALLNACHT
JOHN ZORN - NEW TRADITIONS IN EAST ASIAN BAR BANDS
WEEN - PURE GUAVA
PRIMUS - FRIZZLE FRY
COCK ESP - GREATEST DICKS
RUINS - HYDEROMASTGRONINGEM
ALEC EMPIRE - HYPERMODERN JAZZ 2000.5
NAKED CITY - ABSINTHE
FAITH NO MORE - KING FOR A DAY
BEATLES - MAGICAL MYSTERY TOUR
FUDGE TUNNEL - HATE SONGS IN E MINOR
JOHN ZORN - FIRST RECORDINGS 1973
(I'd either take those or just grab 20 out of my zorn collection :P)
P.S. I am still looking for people to do reviews of Zorn's work for my page
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Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 07:06:42 -0800
From: Zorn <gking@win.bright.net>
Subject: looking for some info on these albums
im wondering if anyone knows anyhting about these albums..what they are like
etc..?
EXPERIMENTAL PERFORMANCE WITH JOHN ZORN: Jojo Takayanagi
GANRYU ISLAND: Michihiro Sato and John Zorn
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Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 15:20:50 +0200
From: Yves Dewulf <yves@inwpent1.rug.ac.be>
Subject: top 20
only 20 is insane:
1)Roni Size: New Forms
2)Amon Tobin: Bricolage
3)Great Jewish Music:Serge Gainsbourg
4)Zorn:Elegy
5)Klaus Schulze: X
6)Tangerine Dream : The Sorcerer
7)Material: Seven Souls
8)Kraftwerk: Computer world
9)M.Mengelberg: Who's bridge
10)Cibo Matto: Viva La Woman
11)Beatles: Sgt.Peppers ...
12)Roland Kirk: talkin' verve: Roots of Acid Jazz
13)Naked City: Naked City
14)Masada VII
15)King Crimson: Islands
16)Wendy Carlos: Clockwork Orange
17)J.S.Bach: violin concertos (Trevor Pinnock + English Consort)
18)G.Bryars: Music for the sinking of the titanic
19)S.Reich: Music for 18 musicians
20)Zappa: Jazz from Hell
20b)Boredoms: Onanie Bomb ...
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