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From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest)
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Subject: Zorn List Digest V2 #248
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Zorn List Digest Sunday, March 1 1998 Volume 02 : Number 248
In this issue:
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Re: Classic Soul
RE: bass albums
Re: bass albums
Re: bass albums
solo bass
Re: bass albums
bass albums
Re: bass albums
Re: bass albums
Re: bass albums
bass solo
Re:bass albums
Re: bass(es)
Zorn/Eye box?
Re: bass albums
More copyright
Braxton/Weslyan
Toshinori Kondo
Celluloid/Subharmonic/Matarazzo/Beinhorn
AEC, was re: bass albums
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Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 11:06:46 -0500
From: chasinthetrane@juno.com (Jamie F Graves)
Subject: Re: Classic Soul
The best soul thing I've picked up in the past few years was James
Brown's "Star Time" box set. The four discs cover everything from his
early days as a crooner to his later more dance influenced stuff. I'd say
this is a must for any record collection.
Jamie
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Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 10:50:00 -0600
From: Glenn Astarita <gastarit@comm.net>
Subject: RE: bass albums
>=20
[] snip
=20
Mark Dresser's solo disc "Invocation" on Knitting Factory Works is =
pretty
incredible. Dave Holland and, if I remember correctly, Peter Kowald =
also had
very fine solo bass records last year. Barry Guy must surely have =
recorded
one I would think. Michael Formanek has just finished one for Screwgun =
that
will be issued in the fall. Those are all that leap to mind but I'm =
sure
others will come up with more. Oh, and back in high school my =
bass-playing
girlfriend used to play a lot of solo music recorded by a classical bass
virtuoso named Francois Rabbath... while not jazz, these certainly had =
some
air of improvisation about them.
Steve Smith
ssmith36@sprynet.com
[Glenn Astarita] Check out Miroslav Vitous' solo ECM lp from the early =
80's. ? title...A remarkable display of arco bass technique. Honestly, =
i don't know if it ever made it to cd. (my 2 cents)
glenn
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Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 08:45:27 -0800
From: Jeff Spirer <jeffs@hyperreal.org>
Subject: Re: bass albums
At 10:22 AM 2/28/98 -0500, Sean Terwilliger wrote:
>Also, Jonas Hellborg has 2 solo bass CD's out. One electric and one
>acoustic.
If I remember correctly, the acoustic one is not a double bass though, but
his acoustic bass guitar. Unfortunately, I loaned this to someone and
never got it back.
Jeff Spirer
B&W Photos: http://www.pomegranates.com
Color and B&W Photos: http://www.hyperreal.org/~jeffs/gallery.html
Axiom/Material: http://www.hyperreal.org/axiom/
- -
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Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 12:23:49 EST
From: WINRECORDS <WINRECORDS@aol.com>
Subject: Re: bass albums
FYI: WIN Records will be releasing a CD of solo (electric) bass by CRIB next
month, entitled: "She is Church." CRIB has played shows with the likes of
Thurston Moore, Charles Gayle, William Hooker, Merzbow & more. Info. is
available online at: http://www.winrecords.com/winroster/crib.html
- -
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Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 10:10:45 -0800
From: Todd Bramy <tbramy@oz.net>
Subject: solo bass
>ECM bassist Barre Phillips has a decent solo CD out, although he plays more
>than just double bass on it. IIRC, it's called _One Moon Rising_ or someth=
ing
>like that...
The Barre Phillips recording is called "Three Day Moon" and while it is a
wonderful recording centered on his bass playing, it also includes Terje
Rypdal on guitar, guitar synth, organ; Dieter Feichtner on synth; and
Trilok Gurtu on tabla, percussion.
Let me throw another recording into the mix. One of my very favorite CDs of
solo bass:
Miroslav Vitous "Emergence" ECM 1986
<< todd >>
=83=83=83=83=83=83=83
"I don't want to spend my life explaining myself.
You either get it or you don't."
=46rank Zappa
- -
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Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 12:39:22 -0500
From: James Hale <jhale@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: bass albums
Jesse Simon wrote:
>
> I'm looking for albums of SOLO double bass. That's right. Unaccompanied
> double bass.
Check out Nightbird Inventions by Dominic Duval (bassist with Cecil
Taylor) on Cadence. Amazing technique and musical vision.
James Hale
- -
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Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 13:42:35 +0100
From: Nils Jacobson <JACOBSON@frodo.mgh.harvard.edu>
Subject: bass albums
Jesse Simon <umsimo10@cc.UManitoba.CA> wrote:
> I'm looking for albums of SOLO double bass. That's right. Unaccompanied
> double bass. I'm sure some great bassist of the fifties or sixties must
> have done one. Ron Carter perhaps? Paul Chambers? Jimmy Garrison? Charlie
> Haden? Gary Peacock? Even someone more modern would be good. If anyone
> knows of anything, please e-mail me, privately or otherwise.
I would highly recommend the William Parker album *Testimony*. This is
very fine stuff, pretty out there, lots of scratching and higher order
harmonics. It's on Zero-In and may be a bit hard to find, but if you
have enjoyed Parker in other contexts this is definitely one to check out.
Also, Dave Holland has a couple of solo discs people have not mentioned.
Among these are his 1977 release *Emerald Tears* (which has a pretty cool
Braxton tune on it) and his 1982 organic cello solo disc *Life Cycle.*
Both on ECM and both highly recommended.
> An incredible double bass _duo_ recording is 'Arcus' by Phillips and
> Barry Guy (Maya MCD 9101)--just astonishing playing.
Yes, I would have to agree strongly on that one. Amazing what these two
guys can do together. A bit out there, but really nice.
(Could I have used an 'and' in that last sentence?)
- -Nils
- -
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Date: Sat, 28 Feb 98 15:43:54 EST
From: M.Ho <mus4mth@atlas.vcu.edu>
Subject: Re: bass albums
You must check out Bert Turetzky who has been working since the 60's, I
believe, and is the father of contemporary bass music. He bridges the
gap between jazz, improv, contemporary and classical and he is very
accessible as well. His albums are hard to come by, however. He's
recorded with the 9winds label. His scores are easier to find and he
has an album that has pieces dedicated to Mingus and that contemporary
composer from California that we've discussed on this list
serveral times but I can't remember his name right now. Anyways,
being a bassist myself, I love not only listening to his works but
playing them as well. A friend of mine conducted an interview with
him for one of the fall 1996 issues of Bass Player magazine. There is
a discography as well as an excerpt of one of his scores in this
article. Check it out if you have access to the magazine. By the
way, he is a former teacher of Mark Dresser and last summer the two
conducted a concert via satelitte at the Kitchen in N.Y., Bert being
"teleported" in from California while Dresser was at the Kitchen.
Robert Black has a bass solo album that's entitled State of the Bass.
I picked that one up at Tower.
- -Mary
- -
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Date: Sat, 28 Feb 98 15:53:50 EST
From: M.Ho <mus4mth@atlas.vcu.edu>
Subject: Re: bass albums
And also, William Parker (of Matthew Shipp fame) has a few
improvisational solo bass albums out. Testimony is the title of
one and its very psychotic (in a good way).
Ron Carter unfortunately released a solo album of all Bach pieces.
I love Ron C. but this is a total embarassment. Avoid it like the
plague. It's pretty good considering playing jazz and classical on
bass is as different as taking up organ if you were a kazoo player,
but I still would not have released this album if I were him.
- -Mary
- -
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Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 16:37:41 -0500
From: Tom Pratt <tpratt@smtc.net>
Subject: Re: bass albums
I love Mark Dresser's 'Invocation' but it completely surprised me
because there was a lot of overdubbing arco stuff which creates a very
powerful mass of sound. Really incredible music but totally not what you
would expect from a "solo bass album".
Dave Holland has a couple of solo bass albums (as well as solo cello)
which are really great. Holland has an amzing tone!
Ron Carter has at least one solo bass album that isn't Bach stuff. I've
seen his solo CD's and LP's floating around. They exist.
Peter Kowald, Barre Phillips, Barry Guy & Joelle Leandre all have solo
recordings out in the free improv idiom. Check out
http://www.shef.ac.uk/misc/rec/ps/efi/ to find some of those.
Also, Romanian composer Iancu Dumitrescu has written some really amazing
music for contrabass. Check out the disc with "Medium III' on the
Edition Modern label. You can get it through Forced Exposure. Enjoy!
-Tom Pratt
- -
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Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 19:17:40 -0300
From: "A. Bueno" <jabu@sminter.com.ar>
Subject: bass solo
I think Joelle Leandre has a solo album named "urban Bass"don`t remember
the label.
Barry Guy has "Fizzles" on Maya records.
A.Bueno
- -
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Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 17:36:53 EST
From: FUNKADELlC <FUNKADELlC@aol.com>
Subject: Re:bass albums
In a message dated 98-02-28 11:20:33 EST, you write:
<< I'm looking for albums of SOLO double bass. >>
dont yell at me.... i know this is electric bass.... but the DOS albums
featuring WATT and KIRA are fuckin great!!! its just 2 electric basses and im
sure the majority of them are on SST or like the subsadary of SST... HEY
EVERYONE.. SPEAKING OF WATT... his band Banyan <feat stephen perkins too> is
plain with BUCKETHEAD the 12 of March at THE GIG in LA..
- -cory sklar
- -
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Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 14:46:30 -0800 (PST)
From: C E DANGELO <cappyd@UVic.CA>
Subject: Re: bass(es)
If you want creative bass music, check this out (I've heard a recording so
I know it exists...):
Ustvolskaya, Galina: Composition No.2, 'Dies Irae' for 8 Double Basses,
Wood Cube and Piano. (20')
Ustvolskaya
was a pupil of Shostakovich. "This is a work of great power and
energy, combining the sonorous qualities of a double
bass octet with the percussive qualities of the piano and wood cube to
produce unusual textures and colours. The work
is dominated by tone clusters creating abrasive textures and sounds,
and the double bass writing is basically
chordal-sometimes in unison, sometimes in harmony. It needs eight
bassists who are not afraid of playing in thumb
position. This is music of distinction and vision and would be ideal
for any contemporary concert series or festival."
(Review taken from the British & International Bass Forum Newsletter,
no. 9) (Available for hire (96) from Boosey
and Hawkes, 0171-580 2060.)
- -cappyd
- -
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Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 19:20:36 -0500
From: "Jason J. Tar" <tarjason@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: Zorn/Eye box?
Hello,
I know there were rumours of a Zorn/Eye box set of 100 discs to be
released. Was it ever? Some person is selling a copy for $400...if it
came out is this a good price? Just curious. (I didn't think it ever had
been released, but I've bought stuff from this person before, so....?)
Thanks.
- ---
Peace Hugs and Unity,
Jason J. Tar
Vampire Rodent Productions
http://pilot.msu.edu/user/tarjason/VRodents.htm
Featuring: Vampire Rodents, Ether Bunny, and Dilate.
- -
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Date: Sun, 01 Mar 1998 00:31:52 -0500
From: Steve Smith <ssmith36@sprynet.com>
Subject: Re: bass albums
Oh, and one more I just found out about tonight...
Malachi Favors has a solo disc on the Art Ensemble's little label AECO. Recorded
in 1977. Title was something like "Earth and the Firmament." Almost bought it,
then decided I needed to save money after paying $29.95 for my Art Ensemble
ticket (money exceedingly well spent), then went over to Tower after the concert
and bought discs of Martinu and Jussi Bjoerling instead. So much for saving
money...
Steve Smith
ssmith36@sprynet.com
- -
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Date: Sun, 01 Mar 1998 02:11:39 -0500
From: Lang Thompson <wlt4@mindspring.com>
Subject: More copyright
This is a bit off the list topic but it connects with a few recent posts:
Does anybody know for sure how the blank tape tax affected copyright law
governing duplication? On another list, somebody insisted that the law was
revised to allow a single copy of audio and video works to be made for
personal use as a sort of exchange for the tape tax. At first I thought he
was mis-reading the statutes which seemed to allow that even though people
familiar with statutory language could see that it clearly was not
referring to personal copying. But he claimed that it's been interpreted
that way in court and seemed to have evidence to back the argument up.
This seems really unlikely and against the grain of copyright tendencies
but my knowledge (a year of copyright and patent law) is several years out
of date. Can anybody supply concrete information?
- ------------------------------------------------------
Lang Thompson
http://www.tcf.ua.edu/wlt4
New at Funhouse: Pazz & Jop Ballot, Overlooked Albums
of 1997, expanded links, William Burroughs obituary.
"A stroke of the brush does not guarantee art from
the bristles." -- Ambassador Kosh
- -
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Date: Sun, 01 Mar 1998 01:19:56 -0600 (CST)
From: DIBBLEE <BDIBBLEE@msuvx2.memphis.edu>
Subject: Braxton/Weslyan
I was wondering if anyone could provide me with some information about
Weslyan's music program...specifically graduate program, and the extent of
Braxton's involvement there.
thanks,
Brian Dibblee
- -
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 12:00:03 +0100
From: stamil@t-online.de (Chris Genzel)
Subject: Toshinori Kondo
A few digests ago, someone mentioned Toshinori Kondo playing on "Die Like A
Dog". I don't have this, but I have several other Kondo CDs which are well
worth hearing.
First (and best) of all, there's "Toshinori Kondo & IMA: Red City Smoke".
It's been released here in Germany on JARO. This combined rock, metal, hiphop,
jazz and Kondo's wah-wahed electric trumpet to quite a stew. This is really
incredible.
Then there are two albums, "Taihen" and "Metal Position" which have been put
onto one CD by JARO (though I know there is at least one track missing).
"Taihen" has Bill Laswell on it, and both are a lot of fun, with strange
noises and ideas combined with funky rhythms. On MP, he even covers Herb
Alpert's Tihuana Brass Band's "Cerezo Rosae" (sp?).
Recently, he released an album with DJ Krush which is called "Ki-Oku". I
haven't heard it yet save for the first track, but it seems to be Kondo's
"Doo-Bop", just a bit trippier.
Then there's another Br÷tzmann recording with him, "The MΣrz Combo". I don't
have it yet.
Another release of his is "This, That and The Other" which I don't own
because I couldn't get into it while listening to it in the shop (Kondo and
Cello was fun, but the other tracks..?).
Finally, he appears on the Laswell-produced "Herbie Hancock: Sound-System"
with a brief but inspired solo. This was my first introduction to Kondo which
made me seek out his other works (Red City Smoke was next).
Kind regards,
Chris.
- -
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Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 12:00:04 +0100
From: stamil@t-online.de (Chris Genzel)
Subject: Celluloid/Subharmonic/Matarazzo/Beinhorn
Paul Jacobson wrote:
> I'm sure Jeff S can clarify the situation further, but my understanding is=
> that Matarazzo contols both the catalogues of Celluloid and Subharmonic.=
> This has been evident from a number of Celluloid titles now showing up as=
> Subharmonic re-issues.
>
> As Jeff S. has pointed out in the past, Celluloid artists are receiving no=
> money from the sales of their recordings, and I would assume that a similar=
> situation exists with Subharmonic. So I hardly think that some so=
> principled would worry about putting out a substandard release.
First of all, this makes me realize how lucky I was to get the original
"Sacrifist".
Matarazzo leads me to two questions:
1) I have two Subharmonic releases which have the line "Realization by John
Matarazzo" on them; these are "Divination: Akasha" and "M.J. Harris/Bill
Laswell: Somnific Flux". Do these releases have any flaws as well compared
to the original releases, or is Matarazzo credited on each version?
2) Celluloid once was Jean Karakos' label, what happened to him? Did he sell
the whole catalogue? Plus, Anton Fier said the whole money of the Cell.
re-releases goes to Michael Beinhorn. Now you say Matarazzo gets the
money. "I tell you, Scully, there are extraterrestrial forces involved in
this. Karakos, Beinhorn and Matarazzo is one and the same person." (???)
Can anyone give me some insight on this?
While we're at Michael Beinhorn, can anyone tell me something about this
non-keyboarder besides the obvious facts (I read the Soundscape liner notes and
I know he's a producer for metal and rock bands nowadays)?
Kind regards,
Chris.
- -
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Date: Sun, 01 Mar 1998 08:34:25 -0800
From: Brian Olewnick <olewnik@IDT.NET>
Subject: AEC, was re: bass albums
Steve Smith wrote:
>
> Oh, and one more I just found out about tonight...
>
> Malachi Favors has a solo disc on the Art Ensemble's little label AECO. Recorded
> in 1977. Title was something like "Earth and the Firmament."
I think it was 'The Natural and the Spiritual', if I recall correctly;
it's the one issue of the initial three (the others being Jarman's
'Sunbound' and Moye's 'Sun Percussion') that I don't have. I'd guess
that there's more than solo bass going on there, though...
>Almost bought it,
> then decided I needed to save money after paying $29.95 for my Art Ensemble
> ticket (money exceedingly well spent), then went over to Tower after the concert
> and bought discs of Martinu and Jussi Bjoerling instead. So much for saving
> money...
So, whadja think? I went with a couple of misgivings: 1) I hadn't seen
or heard them in Jarman-less form and thought it might hurt. 2) I share
the common view that their best days are way behind them and a certain
rut-like quality had entered the live shows (though, I'd be the first to
admit, it's a pretty high rut).
Well, it may not have been 'Bap-Tizum', but it was a very enjoyable
show.
(What I wouldn't have given to have heard one of them saying, upon
arriving on the stage: "Let's cook, c'mon let's cook"). The first half
was largely percussive and quiet, Roscoe spending a lot of time in his
percussion arsenal, Bowie quite plaintive. True, it was little that they
haven't done for thirty years, but they still do it better than most
anyone else. (BTW, it dawned on me last night that Favors reached his
60th birthday last year! Yikes!)
The second set was more straight ahead, beginning with a piece in the
style of Bowie's 'Charlie M', including another reminiscent of 'Walking
in the Moonlight' and concluding with the obligatory (and, by now, kinda
perfunctory) 'Odwalla' (Sorry, but nothing will ever surpass the
'Bap-tizum' version for sheer drama and power). Mitchell had two
extraordinary back-to-back solos on soprano and alto, the former coming
out of his work on that horn since 'The Flow of Things', the latter one
of his patented gnarly, snorting efforts. I always enjoy the almost
perverse pleasure he seems to take in playing _against_ the strong
grooves that Moye and Favors set up.
They encored with a fine, ferocious and funky number that was new to me.
I did miss Jarman and thought the group sounded noticeably thinner
without him and I still think I'm unlikely to hear from them anything to
really compare with their incredible achievements from 1968-73. That
said, I'd rather hear them than 90% of other bands around today and was
glad I went.
Any other opinions? Steve?
Brian Olewnick
- -
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