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Subject: Zorn List Digest V2 #228
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Zorn List Digest Wednesday, February 11 1998 Volume 02 : Number 228
In this issue:
-
re: CD Sale.
Re: STRAYLIGHT recorded works
MASADA SHOW 10/10/94
Painkiller/Keiji
akchote
Re: akchote
Re: Ribot`s cubanos
Re: Painkiller/Keiji
Re: Painkiller/Keiji
Re[2]: Painkiller
Re: Winter&Winter
Re: akchote
Re: Painkiller/Keiji
Buy CDs?
Re: Painkiller/Keiji
New Mr. Bungle?
Painkiller
bmg-they know their stuff.
Re: Painkiller/Keiji
Re: New Mr. Bungle?
Re: New Mr. Bungle?
Re: New Mr. Bungle?
Re: akchote
Re: Ribot`s cubanos
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Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 16:08:38 -0600 (CST)
From: Mike Shepherd <rein0065@frank.mtsu.edu>
Subject: re: CD Sale.
All the cds I offered up for sale are already spoken for. Just thought
that I would let you all know. - Mike
"It's only romantic 'cause it never works."
- Harriet the Spy
*********************************
Mike Shepherd
rein0065@frank.mtsu.edu
Middle Tennessee State University
(615) 898-3652
*********************************
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Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 18:49:27 EST
From: GodIsSound@aol.com
Subject: Re: STRAYLIGHT recorded works
is there any recorded work by STRAYLIGHT???
if anyone records this Full Moon show at the Knit
PLEASE get in touch
w/ me off list..
Thanks
Frank
WOMBAT
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
"You're not musicians.You're Tone Scientists"
SUN RA
******************************************************************************
********************
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Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 22:00:09 +0000
From: david thiel <thiel@buffnet.net>
Subject: MASADA SHOW 10/10/94
I went to see MASADA play at Buffalo State College 10/10/94 in a very
small auditorium. I have heard that the college had a PA system for the
group but Zorn had told them to take down the PA because for a room that
small he would rather play without amplification. The group played the
show acoustically ( which everyone seemed to enjoy except Greg Cohen on
bass). Some pieces I remember them playing are from ALEF. Here are the
ones I remember JAIR, BITH ANETH, TZOFEH, ASHNAH, DELIN, and JANOHAH. It
was a great concert with only about 30 people there to witness how great
they played. I remember ASHNAH being very haunting as the 2nd set
opener.
If anyone has a tape of this show or any other MASADA shows I would
love to one get some.
- -
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Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 09:47:07 +0100
From: Yves Dewulf <yves@inwpent1.rug.ac.be>
Subject: Painkiller/Keiji
For those wondering what Haino Keiji is doing on the Painkiller-box:
On the first CD there's a bonus-track : Marianne, featuring Makigami Koichi
(vocals) and Haino Keiji (guitar).
YV
- -
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Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 11:31:48 GMT0BST
From: DR S WILKIE <S.Wilkie@swansea.ac.uk>
Subject: akchote
anyone heard of a guitarist called Noel Akchote? he's got a
forthcoming cd on Winter & Winter called "lust corner" - duets with
Ribot and Chadbourne...
- -
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Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 12:47:25 +0000
From: Scott Russell <srussell@cims.co.uk>
Subject: Re: akchote
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DR S WILKIE wrote:
> anyone heard of a guitarist called Noel Akchote? he's got a
> forthcoming cd on Winter & Winter called "lust corner" - duets with
> Ribot and Chadbourne...
>
> Sean
This disc is actually out. I bought it last week. It's a collection of
guitar duets, half with Ribot, half with Chadbourne. I've only listened
to it a couple of times but I reckon it's pretty good. There are about 4
Ornette tunes on it, the usual mix of improv tweezing and plinking, some
rock type riff stuff and a Chadbourne C&W song. Chadbourne is mostly on
'serious' form and Ribot is pretty much his usual self-which is no bad
thing. I know next to nothing about Akchote except that he's done some
stuff with Derek Bailey (I think) and Fred Frith amongst others. The
notes list his previous associations but only John Abercrombie springs
to mind at present.
The disc is another beautifully packaged Winter & Winter item,
accompanied by lush photographs (landscapes and nudes) by a Japanese
photographer who's name escapes me just now. The only reservation I have
about W&W stuff is the cd carrying envelope, which looks to me like it
will shred through use.
Scott Russell
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Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 10:16:47 -0300
From: "A.Bueno" <jabu@sminter.com.ar>
Subject: Re: Ribot`s cubanos
A.Bueno wrote:
>
> Can anybody of you tell me which musicians play in Marc Ribot`s
> "Los Cubanos" group?.
> Thank you A.Bueno
I apologize for the insistence .If any of you can help me,thank you
again.
Does anyone have a catalog of releases on the Winter & Winter label?.
A.Bueno
- -
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Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 07:47:11 -0600
From: "PAM J SCHUTH" <PETSITTER@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: Painkiller/Keiji
- -----Original Message-----
From: Yves Dewulf <yves@inwpent1.rug.ac.be>
To: zorn-list@xmission.com <zorn-list@xmission.com>
Date: Wednesday, February 11, 1998 2:50 AM
Subject: Painkiller/Keiji
>
>For those wondering what Haino Keiji is doing on the Painkiller-box:
>On the first CD there's a bonus-track : Marianne, featuring Makigami Koichi
>(vocals) and Haino Keiji (guitar).
So do you have the Painkiller box set?. Unless Tzadik ships it to you right
now, other stores won't have it untill Feb. 17. Any ways, im still a bit
confused about what is in the set. I know buried secrets and Guts are in
their. Which execution ground is included? I know there is a 3 cd version
and that would already total 5 discs. To make a COMPLETE studio set, they
would have to include live in Japan, making the set have 6 discs. so what
exactly is in this 4 -disc box set? The web site didn't exactly clear this
up for me.
Thank you,
Jeff
- -
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Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 15:06:28 +0100
From: Yves Dewulf <yves@inwpent1.rug.ac.be>
Subject: Re: Painkiller/Keiji
> So do you have the Painkiller box set?. Unless Tzadik ships it to you right
> now, other stores won't have it untill Feb. 17. Any ways, im still a bit
> confused about what is in the set. I know buried secrets and Guts are in
> their. Which execution ground is included? I know there is a 3 cd version
> and that would already total 5 discs. To make a COMPLETE studio set, they
> would have to include live in Japan, making the set have 6 discs. so what
> exactly is in this 4 -disc box set? The web site didn't exactly clear this
> up for me.
I found the set already yesterday at a local record-store (together with
Filmworks 1997).
In the Box are:
Disc Zero : Guts of a Virgin/Burried Secrets/Marianne
(so both E.P.'s are on 1 CD)
Marianne is a bonus track from a record by Makigami Koichi
Disc One: Execution Ground
Disc Two: Execution Ground Ambient
Disc Three: Live in Osaka (The third disc of the 3 CD version of E.G.)
YVes
- -
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Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 14:14:51 UT
From: peter_risser@cinfin.com
Subject: Re[2]: Painkiller
<<
So do you have the Painkiller box set?. Unless Tzadik ships it to you right
now, other stores won't have it untill Feb. 17. Any ways, im still a bit
confused about what is in the set. I know buried secrets and Guts are in
their. Which execution ground is included? I know there is a 3 cd version
and that would already total 5 discs. To make a COMPLETE studio set, they
would have to include live in Japan, making the set have 6 discs. so what
exactly is in this 4 -disc box set? The web site didn't exactly clear this
up for me.
Thank you,
Jeff
>>
This is how it was explained to me, and I do not have the set, so I am no
expert:
Disc 1: The first two Painkiller albums on one disc (plus, apparently, bonus
tracks?)
Disc 2/3: Execution Ground
Disc 4: The live set included in the Toy Factory 3disc release of Execution
Ground.
I dunno about the timing of the first two discs, but it seemed to make sense to
me. Of course, I've been jonesing for the Toy Factory release for ages, so it
may just be wishful thinking on my part.
Peter
- -
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Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 06:55:58 PST
From: "Joe the Shmoo" <c123018@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Winter&Winter
>
>The disc is another beautifully packaged Winter & Winter item,
>accompanied by lush photographs (landscapes and nudes) by a Japanese
>photographer who's name escapes me just now. The only reservation I
have
>about W&W stuff is the cd carrying envelope, which looks to me like it
>will shred through use.
>
>Scott Russell
Where did you get your W&W CD? I've been wanting to get the Big Satan
and (I think) the new D. Douglas String album, among others. Downtown
Music Gallery said they wouldn't be in till May (?).
KSH
______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
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Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 08:17:53 -0800
From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <proussel@ichips.intel.com>
Subject: Re: akchote
On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 11:31:48 GMT0BST DR S WILKIE wrote:
>
> anyone heard of a guitarist called Noel Akchote? he's got a
> forthcoming cd on Winter & Winter called "lust corner" - duets with
> Ribot and Chadbourne...
He is young French guitarist dedicated to free improv. He has been
recording recently some duos with Fred Frith and Derek Bailey (on the
Rectangle label -- 10" vinyl only).
Patrice.
- -
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Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 09:17:46 -0800 (PST)
From: SUGAR in their vitamins? <yol@esophagus.com>
Subject: Re: Painkiller/Keiji
On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, Yves Dewulf wrote:
> In the Box are:
>
> Disc Zero : Guts of a Virgin/Burried Secrets/Marianne
> (so both E.P.'s are on 1 CD)
> Marianne is a bonus track from a record by Makigami Koichi
> Disc One: Execution Ground
> Disc Two: Execution Ground Ambient
> Disc Three: Live in Osaka (The third disc of the 3 CD version of E.G.)
ah, so "Rituals (live in Japan)"
is not included at all. too bad.
hasta.
Yes. Beautiful, wonderful nature. Hear it sing to us: *snap* Yes. natURE.
- -
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Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 13:12:30 -0500 (EST)
From: "David J. Strauss" <djs2852@is.nyu.edu>
Subject: Buy CDs?
I apologize if I've sent a message along these lines already; I don't
believe I have before. Anyway, I have a huge list of CDs/LPs for
sale/trade, including the following:
Brian Ales -- Creature of Habit (Feldman/Rojas)
Marilyn Crispell/Irene Schweizer--Overlapping Hands: Eight Segments
Otomo Yoshihide -- Sound Factory (1997)
The list can be found at http://pages.nyu.edu/~djs2852/ +
DS
djs2852@is.nyu.edu
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Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 16:17:02 -0600
From: "Petsitter" <PETSITTER@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: Painkiller/Keiji
- -----Original Message-----
From: SUGAR in their vitamins? <yol@esophagus.com>
To: Yves Dewulf <yves@inwpent1.rug.ac.be>
Cc: a record swap meet full of stamp collectors <zorn-list@xmission.com>
Date: Wednesday, February 11, 1998 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: Painkiller/Keiji
>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, Yves Dewulf wrote:
>
>> In the Box are:
>>
>ah, so "Rituals (live in Japan)"
>is not included at all. too bad.
>
Yeah whats the deal, when will we see a re-release of this impossible to
find disc?
>
>-
>
- -
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Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 14:36:25 -0800 (PST)
From: chad edwards <chadhead@rocketmail.com>
Subject: New Mr. Bungle?
Say, does anyone out there in computer land know
any word about Mr.Bungle's future release and when
exactly it will be available?
I need to know. Its important.
Thanks...really,
Chad D. Edwards
(on the internet)
_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
- -
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Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 15:40:59 -0800 (PST)
From: C E DANGELO <cappyd@UVic.CA>
Subject: Painkiller
What's the easiest (cheapest) way to get a copy of the painkiller
box-set to Victoria, BC (Western Canada)? I don't think my local record
store is going to bring in Tzadik releases anymore. I am anxious to hear
the set as I've never been able to find anything by Painkiller for sale
around here. Please help!
cappyd (in the Great White North)
P.S. any good shows coming to Vancouver/Victoria/Seattle?
- -
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Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 16:59:50 -0800 (PST)
From: Joshua A Miller <umillj08@mcl.ucsb.edu>
Subject: bmg-they know their stuff.
i just got my wonderful new bmg music service membership package. they put
all this "jazz club" crap in it, which is good and fine. included was
their list of "landmark" jazz albums, each with a short description.
included in this vaunted category were 'the shape of jazz to come' and (to
my surprise) 'naked city.'
here's something from the notes on 'the shape of jazz to come'-
"...this record was used as a blueprint for the work of such 'avant
traditionalists' as Wynton and Branford Marsalis"
what they said about 'naked city'-
"John Zorn is a downtow new york freak who likes to round up other
downtown new york freaks, go into a studio and record freaky music...
(Naked City is) a collection of dark, evil and propulsive compositions
that he (Zorn) dubbed, 'jazz noir.'"
comments?
josh
- -
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Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 20:25:23 -0500 (EST)
From: ia zha nah er vesen <jwnarves@csclub.uwaterloo.ca>
Subject: Re: Painkiller/Keiji
>
> For those wondering what Haino Keiji is doing on the Painkiller-box:
> On the first CD there's a bonus-track : Marianne, featuring Makigami Koichi
> (vocals) and Haino Keiji (guitar).
is it a cover of the classic Leonard Cohen song? :)
- -jascha
- -
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Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 20:27:57 -0500 (EST)
From: Gauthier Michelle A <7mag2@qlink.queensu.ca>
Subject: Re: New Mr. Bungle?
On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, chad edwards wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Say, does anyone out there in computer land know
> any word about Mr.Bungle's future release and when
> exactly it will be available?
>
> I need to know. Its important.
Well then...
There really isn't much to say. They are trading tapes right now...
listening to each other's ideas... nothing concrete has really been
established from my knowledge. There is always a lot of speculation, but
I wouldn't expect something for awhile. I think they are all really busy
with their respective side projects.
m.
- -
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Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 21:35:45 -0600
From: "Petsitter" <PETSITTER@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: New Mr. Bungle?
- -----Original Message-----
From: Gauthier Michelle A <7mag2@qlink.queensu.ca>
To: chad edwards <chadhead@rocketmail.com>
Cc: zorn-list@xmission.com <zorn-list@xmission.com>
Date: Wednesday, February 11, 1998 7:32 PM
Subject: Re: New Mr. Bungle?
>Well then...
>There really isn't much to say. They are trading tapes right now...
>listening to each other's ideas... nothing concrete has really been
>established from my knowledge. There is always a lot of speculation, but
>I wouldn't expect something for awhile. I think they are all really busy
>with their respective side projects.
>
Exactly what side projects right now? I know the new secret chiefs is
coming out soon. Is it true that Patton left Faith No More? Id say its
about time he left that dead end project any ways.
- -
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Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 23:38:01 -0500 (EST)
From: Gauthier Michelle A <7mag2@qlink.queensu.ca>
Subject: Re: New Mr. Bungle?
> Exactly what side projects right now? I know the new secret chiefs is
> coming out soon. Is it true that Patton left Faith No More? Id say its
> about time he left that dead end project any ways.
Yeah, the new SC3 is due out in March on Amarillo. It is true that Patton
said goodbye to Faith No More.
Ummmmm.... well Patton is working with several musicians and doing his own
solo work, (I'm sure most people are familiar with his 2 Tzadik
releases) and he'll be playing at Victoriaville in May with his own
unit, and also with Zorn and Ikue Mori.
Danny (percussion) plays with another band called Dieselhed...
Trey (guitars, electronics) has several other obscure projects besides SC3
such as Faxed Head and he is
also on an upcoming Avant release called _Weird Little Boy_ with Patton,
William Winant and others...
Trevor (basses) has several jazz-related projects such as Junk Genius, the
Graham Connah Group, Snorkel, and he plays on a bunch of CD's by other
west coast musicians such as Ben Goldberg, John Schott, and Philip
Greenlief, just to name a few. He is also part of a really cool project
called Tipsy that everyone should own...
So that's the basics.
m.
- -
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Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 23:47:59 -0500
From: Steve Smith <ssmith36@sprynet.com>
Subject: Re: akchote
Patrice L. Roussel wrote:
> > anyone heard of a guitarist called Noel Akchote? he's got a
> > forthcoming cd on Winter & Winter called "lust corner" - duets with
> > Ribot and Chadbourne...
>
> He is young French guitarist dedicated to free improv. He has been
> recording recently some duos with Fred Frith and Derek Bailey (on the
> Rectangle label -- 10" vinyl only).
The duet with Frith is a 10" but the Bailey duet is 12" across, and heavy
like a frisbee... what a slab of vinyl. Feels neat and sounds pretty
okay too. The label also offers a 10" Bailey / Chadbourne duet I've just
gotta find, as well as something new (listed in the ad in the February
'98 Wire, pg. 24, in the middle of the Frith article) called
"Plunderphonics / X. Garcia," a 7-incher described as "remixes from
Rectangle Records."
Steve Smith
ssmith36@sprynet.com
- -
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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 00:35:49 -0500
From: Steve Smith <ssmith36@sprynet.com>
Subject: Re: Ribot`s cubanos
> A.Bueno wrote:
> >
> > Can anybody of you tell me which musicians play in Marc Ribot`s
> > "Los Cubanos" group?.
From the Tzadik website:Marc Ribot's been mainly focusing on his most
recent/current band, 'Y Los Cubanos Postisos' (means "The Prosthetic
Cubans"), featuring Ribot/guitar, Brad Jones (Jazz Passengers,
Primetime), bass, E.J.Rodriguez (Lounge Lizards,Jazz Passengers), Perc.
and Roberto Rodriguez (Ex-Miami Sound Machine), drums. The band pays
tribute to Arsenio Rodriguez, and will [play] at a number of venues
> Does anyone have a catalog of releases on the Winter & Winter label?
Yes.910 001-2 J.S. Bach: Cello Suites 1, 2 & 3 [played on period cello
by Paolo Beschi]
910 002-2 Gary Thomas: Found on Sordid Streets [M-Base with rap]
910 003-2 Marc Ducret: (detail) [solo acoustic guitar]
910 004-2 Uri Caine: Urlicht [Caine plays Mahler with Joey Baron, Dave
Douglas, etc]
910 005-2 Big Satan: I Think They Liked It, Honey [Berne, Ducret,
Rainey]
910 006-2 Schubert: Piano Trio in E-flat [played on period instruments
by La Gaia Scienza]
910 007-2 Venezia - La Feste [location recording of various cafe
orchestras in Venice]
910 008-2 Paul Motian Trio: Sounds of Love - At the Village Vanguard
[more from their last live set on JMT]
910 009-2 Paul Motian Electric Bebop Band: Flight of the Blue Jay
910 010-2 "Monk to Bach" - specially priced sampler of all of the
above
910 011-2 Tango Vivo! - Noches de Buenos Aires [location recordings]
910 012-2 Ernst Reijseger: Colla Parte [solo cello]
910 013-2 Uri Caine: Wagner e Venezia [Uri Caine plays Wagner with
string quartet and accordion]
910 016-2 Tethered Moon: First Meeting ["Pooh" Kikuchi, Gary Peacock
and Paul Motian]
910 019-2 Noel Ackchote: Lust Corner [duets with Marc Ribot and Eugene
Chadbourne]
910 020-2 Ra Da Bang - Fifes and Drums of the Basel Festival [location
recording]
And an aside to Antonio - the distributor in Argentina, according to the
catalog, is MN & asoc. in Moron, Argentina, at [54]-1-627-0307. Those of
us in the U.S. are still waiting for the launch from Allegro.
Steve Smith
ssmith36@sprynet.com
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