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From: owner-zorn-list-digest@lists.xmission.com (Zorn List Digest)
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Subject: Zorn List Digest V2 #202
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Zorn List Digest Thursday, January 8 1998 Volume 02 : Number 202
In this issue:
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Re: Discs of the year...
Re: Discs of the year...
Re: Discs of the year...
Re: Ostertag Stuff
Re: Ostertag's _Attention Span_
Re: Ostertag Stuff
Re: BIG Activity + more
Re: waits greatest hits
Re: Discs of the year... (fwd)
Re: Diamanda Galas
Re: Diamanda Galas
Re: Ostertag Stuff
Ostertag Stuff
Re: Ostertag Stuff
Re: Ostertag Stuff
Carny, live and on CD
Trades
Hey Kids! Tzadik News! [longidh]
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Date: Tue, 06 Jan 1998 22:16:40 -0800
From: Michael Howes <mhowes@best.com>
Subject: Re: Discs of the year...
>>> > Just for the seasonal hell of it, anybody care to engage in a spot of
>>> > light hearted discs of the year listings?
>
>Crispell/Hauser/Leimgruber+ BEHIND THE NIGHT
What's this like? What label is it on?
mike
mhowes@best.com
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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 10:01:11 +0100
From: Yves Dewulf <yves@inwpent1.rug.ac.be>
Subject: Re: Discs of the year...
>> On Fri, 2 Jan 1998, Scott Russell wrote:
>>
>> > Just for the seasonal hell of it, anybody care to engage in a spot of
>> > light hearted discs of the year listings?
Amon Tobin: Bricolage
Great Jewish Music: Serge Gainsbourg
Roni Size & Reprazent: New Forms
Dave Douglas : Sanctuary
Marc Ribot : Shoe String Symphonettes
Klaus Schulze: Jubilee Edition
Material : Seven Souls
Harris/Bernocchi: Overload Lady
David Shea: Satyricon
Great Jewish Music: Burt Bacharach
YVes
-
- -
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Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 22:00:31 +0800
From: Jan-Wen Lu <janwenlu@top2.ficnet.net.tw>
Subject: Re: Discs of the year...
> Just for the seasonal hell of it, anybody care to engage in a spot of
> light hearted discs of the year listings?
The following is my list for discs of the year('97):
*Ground Zero/Play Standards (Nani)
*Otomo Yoshihide/Melted Memory (Valve/AMOEBIC)
*John Zorn/The Parachute Years 1977-1980 (Tzadik)
*Annick Nozati/La peau des Anges (Vand'oeuvre)
*Francis Dhomont/Frankenstein Symphony
*Frank Schulte-Switchbox/Berg Du Berg Ich (Moers)
*Bob Ostertag/Like A Melody, No Bitterness (My Very Own Record)
*Machine For Making Sense/Talk Is Cheap (Split)
*Schurch-Seigner-Thoma/Interni Pensieri (Intakt)
*David Watson/Bit-Part Actor (Braille)
(In no particular order)
Jan-Wen Lu
- -
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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 08:55:43 -0500
From: pm.carey@utoronto.ca (Patrick Carey)
Subject: Re: Ostertag Stuff
>On Tue, 6 Jan 1998, Gauthier Michelle A wrote:
>> fairly recent collaboration with Otomo Yoshihide, er... the name of the
>> disc escapes me right now. I'm sure someone can help me out with the name
>" Twins! "
On Otomo's Creativeman label ...
- -Patrick
- -
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Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 08:17:17 -0800
From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <proussel@ichips.intel.com>
Subject: Re: Ostertag's _Attention Span_
Talking about Ostertag, Tower Records, a couple days ago, was listing
a new one without any mention of the label (as usual...). Now, checking again
at their list of new releases, I do not see it anymore. Hallucination?
Patrice.
BTW: a new Frisell is listed (GONE JUST LIKE A TRAIN).
- -
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Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 08:25:40 -0800
From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <proussel@ichips.intel.com>
Subject: Re: Ostertag Stuff
On Tue, 6 Jan 1998 23:23:01 -0500 (EST) Gauthier Michelle A wrote:
>
>
> > Can anyone recommend recent works of Ostertag's? I've kinda lost track.
> >
> > Brian
>
>
> Brian,
>
> The most recent disc I know about is one called _Like A Melody, No
> Bitterness_, second latest would probably be _Verbatim_. These are
> both excellent. There is also a
> fairly recent collaboration with Otomo Yoshihide, er... the name of the
> disc escapes me right now. I'm sure someone can help me out with the name
> and label. I'm not sure how far back you're interested
> in going, but... some good ones:
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
075 - TWINS: Bob Ostertag, Otomo Yoshihide
1/ Wacked (Robertson) 4:01
2/ Exercises For Currency (Yoshihide) 6:56
3/ 3 Bear Rooms(Dust) (Cutler) 4:46
4/ The Power of Success (Ostertag) 5:49
5/ Fruits from Viet Nam (Yagi Michiyo) 4:00
6/ 4 Rooms of Hong Kong Stuntman (Yoshihide) 6:41
7/ You're going nowhere (Ostertag) 5:32
8/ Tabbing will Get you there Faster (Ostertag) 5:14
9/ Otok (Yoshihide) 6:23
(1) recorded at The Corner Store Syndicate Studio, Brooklyn on February
28, 1996
(2,6,9) recorded at Lost Space, Tokyo on July 2-5, 1996
(3) recorded at Studio Midi-Pyrenees, Caudeval, France in 1996
(4,7,8) recorded in San Francisco in June-July, 1996
(5) recorded ???
Produced by Noda Shigenori.
Herb Robertson (1): trumpet; Otomo Yoshihide (2,6,9): sampler, hard-disk
recorder; Matsubara Sachiko (2,6): sampled voice; Chris Culter (3): gongs,
tubular, bell, kit drums, Tibetan finger cymbals, clay drum, woodblock,
tambourine, radio; Bob Ostertag (4,7,8): sampler; Yagi Michiyo (5): 17-
string kotos, koto; Tanaka Yumiko (6): shamisen, singing.
1996 - Sank-Ohso/Creativeman Discs (Japan), CMDD-00030 (CD)
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Patrice.
- -
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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 12:57:41 -0500
From: rbisson@courrier.usherb.ca ( =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=E9mi?= Bissonnette)
Subject: Re: BIG Activity + more
>>Anyone know of the recent whereabouts/activity of Blind Idiot God or
>its
>>members? The last I heard of Hawkins was his 'Azonic Halo' and the
>>shared CD with Broadrick. Haven't heard anything from the other two.
>>For that matter, is BIG still functional?
>
>I read an interview with Andy Hawkins (naturally I don't remember what
>magazine) at the beginning of the summer. He said that BIG was
>definitely making another album, but that he didn't know who would put
>it out, since Avant has a backlog of releases coming up. I think he also
>mentioned that Laswell would not be producing it, at that juncture
>anyway.
If anybody else finds out anything on this, please post it -- BIG is one of
my favorite bands and I just can't get enough of them. Also, does anybody
know exactly from which magazine the aforementionned article might be from?
I'd like to get a copy, if possible.
And speaking of BIG and it's members, I was wondering: will Slan (who
featured Ted Epstein, E# and Zorn) ever release a full-lenght CD? And is
it worth buying the CDs the band is on just for their one or two
contributed tracks?
On another note, are there any Diamanda Galas fans on this list? I'm
curious to find out which of her releases features her best vocal work and
music.
=46inally (hoping not to annoy anyone too much), I'm trading/selling two
Tzadik releases: Ground Zero's Null and Void and Keiji Haino's Tenshi No
Gijinka. E-mail me for details if interested.
Bruno
R=E9mi Bissonnette Ph.D.
Professeur titulaire
=46acult=E9 d'=C9ducation physique et sportive
Universit=E9 de Sherbrooke
Sherbrooke, Qu=E9bec
J1K 2R1
=20
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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 13:28:25 -0500 (EST)
From: ia zha nah er vesen <jwnarves@csclub.uwaterloo.ca>
Subject: Re: waits greatest hits
i think that's 'NIGHT ON EARTH' (actually, i know it is).
it's pretty cool.
his music for the play 'the black rider' is absolutely increadible,
though. Broken-down circus music with really dilated pupils....
On Sat, 3 Jan 1998, Dan Kuehn wrote:
> If you can stand 16 wide-ranging versions of the same tune, the soundtrack for
> Jim Jarmuch's Night in the City is a great chance to hear the guy's non-vocal
> talents writing and arranging, produced too.
>
> It's eerie midnight taxiride music.
> --
> Dan Kuehn
> resident manager
> Kailua Maui Gardens
>
> -
>
- -
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 19:45:49 +0100 (MEZ)
From: BJOERN <bjoern.eichstaedt@student.uni-tuebingen.de>
Subject: Re: Discs of the year... (fwd)
Why not? My top 10, in democratic alphabetical order:
Bjork, _Homogenic_
Chris Hamilton
yepp sorry i forgot about the Bjork CD.............
BJOERN
- -
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 13:51:16 -0500
From: cdeupree@interagp.com (Caleb Deupree)
Subject: Re: Diamanda Galas
>>>>> "Remi" == =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=E9mi?= Bissonnette <rbisson@courrier.usherb.ca> writes:
Remi> On another note, are there any Diamanda Galas fans on this
Remi> list? I'm curious to find out which of her releases
Remi> features her best vocal work and music.
I started listening to Diamanda after hearing a live performance on
our local classical station of New Music America 1980, where she
performed her Dirge. I started buying her records as soon as I saw
them, so everything I have of hers, except the Plague Mass and The
Singer, is on vinyl. I have no knowledge of the availability of the
earlier releases on CD, and my descriptions below are from memory.
Wild Women with Steak Knives and the Dirge for those
Murdered... (forget the exact title) are positively scary, and still
my favorite pieces (although I admire them more than I actually listen
to them). Processed ululations, demented screams echoing around the
speakers, makes me wish I'd seen a live performance. Litanies of
Satan is pretty good, but more recognizable text than the other two.
The trilogy that makes up the studio recordings of the plague mass
continue the move towards text rather than sounds, and I prefer the
live single disk recording to the trilogy. I thought the trilogy was
toned down after her early work, as if she was giving her vocal cords
a (much deserved) rest, emphasizing dramatics over intensity. This
emphasis was reversed on the single disk Plague Mass. I was *very*
disappointed with The Singer and haven't heard the John Paul Jones
collaboration, any of her early free improv stuff, or her performances
of 1960s avant garde classical works.
- ---
Caleb T. Deupree
;; Opinions are not necessarily shared by management
Computers are useless. They can only give you answers.
(Pablo Picasso)
- -
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 11:04:05 -0800
From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <proussel@ichips.intel.com>
Subject: Re: Diamanda Galas
On Wed, 7 Jan 1998 13:51:16 -0500 Caleb Deupree wrote:
>
> >>>>> "Remi" == =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=E9mi?= Bissonnette <rbisson@courrier.usherb.ca> writes:
>
> Remi> On another note, are there any Diamanda Galas fans on this
> Remi> list? I'm curious to find out which of her releases
> Remi> features her best vocal work and music.
>
> I started listening to Diamanda after hearing a live performance on
> our local classical station of New Music America 1980, where she
> performed her Dirge. I started buying her records as soon as I saw
> them, so everything I have of hers, except the Plague Mass and The
> Singer, is on vinyl. I have no knowledge of the availability of the
> earlier releases on CD, and my descriptions below are from memory.
Don't know the situation exactly, but Asphodel recently joined Mute in
a program to document Diamanda Galas' ouptput.
Patrice.
- -
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 11:51:07 -0700
From: john shiurba <shiurba@sfo.com>
Subject: Re: Ostertag Stuff
> Can anyone recommend recent works of Ostertag's? I've kinda lost track.
>
Ostertag has a new website, with up to date details:
http://www.detritus.net/ostertag
- --
shiurba@sfo.com
http://www.sfo.com/~shiurba
- -
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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 16:32:05 -0500
From: ROLAND JOST <ROLAND_JOST@compuserve.com>
Subject: Ostertag Stuff
Gauthier Michelle A <7mag2@qlink.queensu.ca> wrote:
There is also a fairly recent collaboration with Otomo Yoshihide, er... t=
he
name of the
disc escapes me right now. I'm sure someone can help me out with the nam=
e
and label. =
twins!
also featuring parents: herb robertson, yagi michiyo and chris cutler.
this is on creativeman disc CMDD-00030
roland
- -
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 18:20:10 -0800
From: Brian Olewnick <olewnik@IDT.NET>
Subject: Re: Ostertag Stuff
Gauthier Michelle A wrote:
> there is also a really cool Anthony Braxton 2 CD set set with Ostertag
> somewhere out there that is still available...
>
Hold on now! Anymore info on this? Don't think I've ever heard of this
one and it sounds very intriguing....
Brian Olewnick
- -
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 19:12:23 -0500
From: Tom Pratt <tpratt@smtc.net>
Subject: Re: Ostertag Stuff
I really like 'Verbatim' which I got a little while ago. It's a disc of
Ostertag sculpting a collective sound from solo improvisations by Phil
Minton, Mark Dresser and Gerry Hemmingway. The fourth track is
particularly haunting. It's the third part of his 'Say No More' series.
I didn't like 'Fear No Love' at all. It's Ostertag doing dance kind of
stuff with lyrics which I didn't care for at all.
listening to: Slint 'Spiderland'
-Tom Pratt
- -
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Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 23:27:46 -0500
From: stephen drury <stevedrury@mindspring.com>
Subject: Carny, live and on CD
Zorn's composition for piano solo "Carny" will be performed on Tues. Jan 13
at Jordan Hall, New England Conservatory in Boston. 8pm, free. The
soon-to-be-released CD "Angelus Novus" which includes "Carny", however, is
not free.
- -
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 21:52:29 PST
From: "The Platypus" <bunglebrain@hotmail.com>
Subject: Trades
Hi. I was hoping that there might be some people on this list who may
want to do a few trades. I'm a huge MR BUNGLE fan and am wanting to get
into a lot of the different JOHN ZORN CD's which are out there. If
anyone has any CD's & you want to trade the actual CD or just tape them
for me in return for something from my list at:
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Club/8730
then please let me know. Naked City seems a good place to start but I'll
consider anything incuding BOB OSTERTAG'S Fear No Love. Thanks.
______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
- -
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Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 02:29:37 -0500
From: Steve Smith <ssmith36@sprynet.com>
Subject: Hey Kids! Tzadik News! [longidh]
Hi everybody and happy new year...
I just checked out the "News and Notes" page at tzadik.com this morning
and was rewarded with the following (with pardons begged if someone else
posted this and I missed it). My own interjections are set off by
asterisks, my fetish of 1998.
==========================================================
Coming In February 1998
** to be more specific, should be in your stores on the 17th of the
month, alongside Masada 9**
PAINKILLER - The Complete Studio Recordings: Guts of a Virgin, Buried
Secrets & Execution Ground
Featuring: John Zorn, Bill Laswell, Mick Harris, Yamataka Eye, Justin
Broadrick, G.C. Green.
An historical reissue released in cooperation with Earache Records. Out
of print for years - with most of the material being released
domestically for the first time. PainKiller is Bill Laswell, Mick
Harris & John Zorn, and this special 4CD package is the ultimate
PainKiller document: The complete studio recordings, with all of the
original booklets and artwork intact - uncensored and uncompromising,
from their classical **[sic]** release of 1991 Guts Of A Virgin, to
Buried Secrets (featuring members of Godflesh) and their 1994
masterpiece Execution Ground. In addition to all of their blistering
studio pieces and extended ambient remixes is included a ferocious live
performance from Osaka, Japan that captures the band at the height of
its powers. Drawing equally from the tradition of jazz, hardcore punk,
dub, ambient and much more, PainKiller has created some of the most
intense music you're ever likely to hear, enclosed in some of the most
deliriously beautiful artwork you're ever likely to see.
** note that it's now listed as a 4-, not 3-CD set... guess that's one
for the two Earache releases combined, one for the "Execution Ground"
studio recordings, one for the "Execution Ground" ambient mixes and one
for the "Live in Osaka" disc. Seems to me that the claim that most of
the material is issued domestically for the first time is spurious at
best, since only "Osaka" is new unless there's something we're not being
told - and one can only hope... Guess that means that "Rituals" (with
Keiji Haino) will remain a highly sought-after rarity - maybe the new
"Cynical Hysterie Hour"? Nahhhh.... Gotta admit, though, that I've
never, ever seen "Rituals" in New York and bought my copy most
unexpectedly in Tempe, AZ**
Milford Graves: GRAND UNIFICATION
Featuring: Milford Graves: Solo Drums
Professor, herbalist, healer, Milford Graves is first and foremost one
of the world's great geniuses of the drum. Rarely heard live, even more
rarely found in the studio, a new recording by Milford Graves is a
special event. Long overdue, this is the CD that free jazz fans and
every drummer in the world has been waiting for: his music for solo
drums. Intense, shooting off in all directions at once and yet always
firmly rooted in the tradition, Tzadik is proud to release this
important and historic solo recording by one of the world's legendary
drum masters.
**amen, and most likely a sure sign of Zorn's friendship with Graves
student Susie Ibarra... Zorn's also releasing a solo drum disc by
Captain Beefheart's Magic Band drummer John French to inaugurate the new
"Virtuoso" series on Avant in '98, as was previously mentioned on the
Zornlist. Wonder if he'd be interested in tracking down Jamie Muir
while he's at it...?**
John Zorn FILM WORKS VIII - 1997
Featuring: Mark Feldman, Erik Friedlander, Greg Cohen, Marc Ribot, Min
Xiao-Fen, Anthony Coleman, Cyro Baptista, Kenny Wollesen
Zorn's Masada music has never sounded as beautiful or as evocative as in
this recording originally created for "Port Of Last Resort" - a film
documentary about the Jewish refugees who escaped Nazi Germany by
resettling to Shanghai. Augmenting the exciting Masada String Trio with
the sensual pipa of Min Xiao-Fen, the versatile guitar of Marc Ribot and
the ivory touch of Anthony Coleman's piano stylings, this music blends
Jewish and Chinese themes in a way both touching and fresh. Also
included is an exotic all-percussion score for Ela Troyano's quirky gay
porno film "Latin Boys Go To Hell," featuring the bizarre sonorities and
driving rhythms of Cyro Baptista and Kenny Wollesen.
** waaaaay cool, I bet.**
Coming In March 1998
Radical Jewish Culture
Gary Lucas
Bar Kokhba (2CD set)
Lunatic Fringe
Dion McGregor
Composer Series
Bun Ching Lam
Coming In April 1998
Film Music
Evan Lurie
Composer Series
Eyvind Kang
New Japan
Ruins
Death Praxis Plus
==========================================================
Thanks are due to Keiko Uenishi [oblaat@ggg.net] for her vigilant upkeep
of the Tzadik news page.
See y'all,
Steve Smith
ssmith36@sprynet.com
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