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Subject: zorn-list Digest V2 #131
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Precedence:
zorn-list Digest Tuesday, October 7 1997 Volume 02 : Number 131
In this issue:
Re: Harry Smith
Re: Wilner
Re: Review: David Shea, Satyricon
....... about Quine and Harry Smith
Re: ....... about Quine
Re: Willner
Re: zorn-list Digest V2 #130
Re: ....... about Quine
Re: Zorn Spirit ?
RE: robert quine
Re: ....... about Quine
info on harry smith
Re: ....... about Quine
Re: Willner and Spanish Fly
Wilner Poe tribute (+Burroughs box)
Re: Wilner Poe tribute (+Burroughs box)
Re: Wilner Poe tribute (+Burroughs box)
Execution Ground, Again
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Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 03:42:41 -0400 (EDT)
From: Christopher Hamilton <chhst9+@pitt.edu>
Subject: Re: Harry Smith
On Sat, 4 Oct 1997, ia zha nah er vesen wrote:
> okay, this is starting to sound really cool...what's the exact info on
> this set? Label, title, places to find it?
Smithsonian Folkways Recordings, _Anthology of American Folk Music_, and
anywhere that sells 6CD sets of folk music manufactured by Sony. But I
want to reemphasize that, despite my comparison to Naked City, this is not
avant-garde music in any of the usual senses: just rural U.S. popular
music of the late 20's/early 30's. It's great stuff, but people on this
list who dislike roots music will probably despise it.
Chris Hamilton
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 10:57:56 +0100
From: molony@worldscope.co.uk (molony)
Subject: Re: Wilner
>I'm catching up on two weeks of zorn digests, and the Monk/Wilner
>conversation makes me ask this question. As some of you have alluded, Wilner
>is an extraordinary producer, and I try to snatch up everything I can find
>that he has a hand in. As you may guess it's harder to find disks by
>producer than by artist. Has anyone seen a Wilner discography. If not,
>Patrice, are you looking for a serious challenge. I could help with what I
>know (which probably doesn'r number much more than about 6 disks). I've been
>meaning to write Wilner a fan letter for years now, but have yet to get
>around to it.
dennis summers <denniss@ic.net>
I'M GLAD THIS ONE CAME ALONG BECAUSE I'VE BEEN WONDERING WHAT HE'S UP TO.
OVER THE YEARS THERE'S BEEN TALK OF FOLLOW UP NINO ROTA, ELLINGTON AND
EDITH PIAF TRIBUTES. I SAW HIM TALKING ABOUT HIS WORK WITH BURROUGHS LAST
YEAR AT LACM AND HE INTIMATED THAT THERE WAS ANOTHER ALBUM'S WORTH OF
STUFF THERE. SO IN THE LIGHT OF BOTH GINSBERG AND UNCLE BILL'S DEMISE
PERHAPS THAT WILL BE FORTHCOMING.A QUICH RUN THROUGH OF THE" FILE UNDER
WILNER" SHELVES HERE THROW THESE UP:-
MATHILDE SANTING-OUT OF THIS DREAm
LORI CARSON- SHELTER
ROTA TRIBUTE AMARCORD
MONK TRIBUTE
CARL STALLING VOLS 1&2.
WEIRD NIGHTMARE MINGUS TRIBUTE
STAY AWAKE DISNEY
LOST IN THE STARS WEILL
SEPTEMBER SONGS WEILL
MARIANNE FAITHFULL STRANGE WEATHER
MARIANNE FAITHFULL BLAZING AWAY
JAZZ PASSENGERS- IN LOVE
OST SHORT CUTS
LENNY PICKETT AND THE BORNEO HORNS
THER'S ALSO BEEN A COUPLE OF PRODUCTIONS I THINK FOR THE KNITTING FACTORY
LABEL. SPANISH FLY?? ALSO I HEARD OF A WILNER PRODUCED EP BY SP.FLY BUT
COULD NEVER TRACK IT DOWN. ANYONE GOT ANY MORE INFO???REGARDS KEVIN M.
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 09:43:56 -0400
From: pm.carey@utoronto.ca (Patrick Carey)
Subject: Re: Review: David Shea, Satyricon
>Great review, I'll have to have another listen to Satyricon.
>>...I read somewhere recently an unfavorable review of the entire album
>>that Shea had made with a group of traditional Italian musicians, but here
>>as one of many colors it works quite well.
>But for the record, what is this other album you mention?
It's called "The Poem De Nuestra Signora" and it's on the Italian
label More Music (MOMUS008-CD).
- -Patrick
np: Alan Lamb - "Primal Image"
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 05 Oct 1997 09:59:03 -0400
From: Perfect Sound Forever <perfect-sound@furious.com>
Subject: ....... about Quine and Harry Smith
Glad to see that Quine is getting some recognition, he's one of the most
under-rated guitarists around. He did some amazing work with Richard
Hell/Voidoids and later with Matthew Sweet, Lloyd Cole, Brian Eno (NERVE
NET) and Lou Reed (BLUE MASK, LEGENDARY HEARTS, LIVE IN ITALY). Recently,
he's been playing in a band with a guy named Michael Maxwell at some small
clubs here in NYC- in the ads, Quine's name is printed large (as it should
be).
Nice to see that BASIC (his LP with Fred Maher) is getting reissued.
Really unique stuff- some ambient, some twangy guitar, lotsa interesting
rhythms. Definitely worth an investment of your pesos.
Someone asked about the Harry Smith boxset also in the last digest. You
can order it from Folkways:
Call 1-(800) 410-9815 (U.S. only, 9am - 5pm EST)
Outside U.S. Call (301) 443-2314
I'm seen the major store chains carry this also- some as cheap as 50 bucks.
It's an amazing music archive and Zorn was right to rave about it.
I might as well mention that we have an article about Smith, culled from
the liner notes- tributes by Peter Stampfel, John Fahey and Allen Ginsberg:
http://www.furious.com/perfect/harrysmith.html
Jason
Perfect Sound Forever
Warped perspectives on all types of music
perfect-sound@furious.com
http://www.furious.com/perfect
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 05 Oct 1997 07:51:16 -0700
From: Jeff Spirer <jeffs@hyperreal.org>
Subject: Re: ....... about Quine
At 09:59 AM 10/5/97 -0400, Perfect Sound Forever wrote:
>Glad to see that Quine is getting some recognition, he's one of the most
>under-rated guitarists around. He did some amazing work with Richard
>Hell/Voidoids
He was amazing live with them, much more intense than on the Voidoid
recordings, with the exception of the original EP with Blank Generation on
Terry Ork's label, which had a blistering, angular guitar line. The only
thing I have heard similar is some of Buckethead's stuff.
Jeff Spirer
Axiom/Material
http://www.hyperreal.org/axiom/
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 11:46:12
From: Jesse Simon <umsimo10@cc.UManitoba.CA>
Subject: Re: Willner
At 10:57 AM 10/5/97 +0100, molony wrote:
>THER'S ALSO BEEN A COUPLE OF PRODUCTIONS I THINK FOR THE KNITTING FACTORY
>LABEL. SPANISH FLY?? ALSO I HEARD OF A WILNER PRODUCED EP BY SP.FLY BUT
>COULD NEVER TRACK IT DOWN. ANYONE GOT ANY MORE INFO???REGARDS KEVIN M.
Indeed Hal Willner produced Spanish Fly's first album "Rags to Britches" on
Knitting Factory Works. It's an excellent album of loosely strung improv,
strangely arranged covers and other cool sounds courtesy of Tronzo (slide
guitar), Marcus Rojas (tuba) and Steven Bernstein (trumpet). The EP was
released on John Flansburgh's Hello Record Label and I don't believe it was
Willner produced. The EP was included on their second album "Fly by Night",
on Accurate Records.
Jesse
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 14:00:02 -0800
From: Herb Levy <herb@eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: zorn-list Digest V2 #130
Brian Beuchaw wrote:
>
>On Fri, 3 Oct 1997, Herb Levy wrote:
>
>> The final disc of the set is an expanded CD which, in addition to more than
>> 40 minutesd of music, includes QuickTime videos (of performers as well as
>> some of Smith's own experimental films), interviews, and lots more on the
>> music and Smith, as well.
>>
>> Herb Levy
>> herb@eskimo.com
>
>Um, I don't remember any videos of performers (just of SMith's films and a
>clip of him accepting a Grammy and another clip or two of him), which is
>kinda disappointing. It does have audio interviews with some of the
>performers (or their wives), but AFAIK, no videos of the performers.
Bad copy editing on my part, I moved some words around & left the
parenthetical comment about interviews in the wrong place. Sorry for the
lack of clarity.
For the couple of folks looking for the set: The Anthology of American Folk
Music is released by Smithsonian Folkways recordings, distributed by Sony
Music Special Products. The Web site for Smithsonian Folkways is
<http://www.si.edu/organiza/offices/folklife/folkways/>.
Check it out.
Bests,
Herb
Herb Levy
herb@eskimo.com
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 17:25:50 -0400 (EDT)
From: IOUaLive1@aol.com
Subject: Re: ....... about Quine
Robert Quine and Jody Harris recorded "Yes It Is", on the cd "Come Together:
Guitar Tribute to the Beatles Vol.2", which was produced by Mike Mainieri.
It was released in 1995.
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 05 Oct 1997 14:55:39 PDT
From: "Tim Schelfhout" <s_tim@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Zorn Spirit ?
//A speedy (private) response from another list member makes me think
//I
//should stress this was a rumor with a capital R. I don't put much
//credence in it, but it made me wonder if O'Rourke was playing guitar
//or something else.
I can assure you O'Rourke WAS playing the guitar ... and VERY original
as well. The guitar was accompanied with a sampler though and it sounded
really weird.
As a matter of fact, they're playing right now again in the same line-up
(T. Kondo, Z. Parkins, O'Rourke, DJ Low, ...). Unfortunately, I
couldn't go tonight, coz' I had to babysit.
Timpy
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Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 20:33:21 -0400 (EDT)
From: penwaves@mindspring.com (joel lewis)
Subject: RE: robert quine
there was a quine/fred maher (ex-material drummer) out about 15 years ago
on e.g. records-- all instrumental, nice. not sure if ever reissued. also
am told that a lou reed live in italy had los of quine
joel lewis
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 21:01:46 -0400 (EDT)
From: Christopher Hamilton <chhst9+@pitt.edu>
Subject: Re: ....... about Quine
On Sun, 5 Oct 1997, Jeff Spirer wrote:
> He was amazing live with them, much more intense than on the Voidoid
> recordings, with the exception of the original EP with Blank Generation on
> Terry Ork's label, which had a blistering, angular guitar line. The only
> thing I have heard similar is some of Buckethead's stuff.
Which Buckethead are you thinking of? I've never heard anything of his
I'd describe as angular, and I'd like to check it out.
Chris Hamilton
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 22:39:32 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ethan <eclauset@webslingerZ.com>
Subject: info on harry smith
for info on harry smith and some stills from his films check out
http://152.175.1.205/NISmith.html
http://www.absolutvodka.com/panushka/history/profiles/smith_h/indexbz.html
http://www.si.edu/folkways/
you can order the anthology of american folk music for $85.00 ppd. from
the smithsonian. (ouch.)
here's a blurb from the first URL, above:
Harry always considered himself more a painter than a filmmaker, and the
distinctions were sometimes moot; e.g., he created the first
frame-by-frame hand-painted films in America in the early 1940's. He was
among the first American artists to exhibit at the Louvre, around 1951,
in a two-man show with Marcel Duchamp.
He spent years living among American Indian tribes (cf. his recordings
of "Kiowa Peyote Rituals" on Folkways Records), and amassed an important
collection of sacred Indian religious ritual objects, now in a museum in
Stockholm. His other collections included his books (among the largest,
finest private libraries and a fantastic collection of Ukrainian painted
Easter eggs.
He even amassed what was undoubtedly the world's largest collection of
paper airplanes. For forty years, as he found one (and he found them
everywhere), he would note the date and place and file it away. By the
early 80s he had no less than a dozen large boxes. The Smithsonian
Air-Space Museum sent a special courier when he donated the collection.
He also spent years befriending and recording early American folk and
blues musicians, and in the early 1950's issued his multi-volume
"Anthology of American Folk Music" on Folkways Records. He received a
Lifetime Achievement Award at the 1991 Grammy Awards in New York for his
contribution to blues and folk music.
Many of his animated films employ overt magical symbolism, such as FILM
NO. 10, which he described as "an exposition of Buddhism and the
Kabbalah in the form of a collage. The final scene shows Agaric
mushrooms growing on the moon while the hero and heroine row by on a
cerebrum." Another early film was a collaboration with Thelonious Monk
(FILM # 11, MIRROR ANIMATIONS). Among his masterworks is HEAVEN AND
EARTH MAGIC (FILM NO. 12), created in the late 1950's and early '60s by
using chance operations to animate cutouts from old department store
catalogs and books. Smith declared that "my movies are made by God; I am
just the medium for them." His art was pure hermeticism, and he, a
modern Prospero.
e
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 05 Oct 1997 19:50:00 -0700
From: Jeff Spirer <jeffs@hyperreal.org>
Subject: Re: ....... about Quine
At 09:01 PM 10/5/97 -0400, Christopher Hamilton wrote:
>
>
>On Sun, 5 Oct 1997, Jeff Spirer wrote:
>
>> He was amazing live with them, much more intense than on the Voidoid
>> recordings, with the exception of the original EP with Blank Generation on
>> Terry Ork's label, which had a blistering, angular guitar line. The only
>> thing I have heard similar is some of Buckethead's stuff.
>
>Which Buckethead are you thinking of? I've never heard anything of his
>I'd describe as angular, and I'd like to check it out.
I would suggest the first Praxis and the forthcoming Arcana CDs for this.
Jeff Spirer
Axiom/Material
http://www.hyperreal.org/axiom/
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 23:01:27 -0400 (EDT)
From: QUESOMALO@aol.com
Subject: Re: Willner and Spanish Fly
In a message dated 97-10-05 12:52:17 EDT, you write:
<< The EP was
released on John Flansburgh's Hello Record Label and I don't believe it was
Willner produced. >>
This EP was, infact, produced by Wilner. Wilner also supplied some very
amusing background vocals. Come to think of it, there is very little about
this group wich isn't amusing.
-nick
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 00:12:03 -0400
From: Lang Thompson <wlt4@mindspring.com>
Subject: Wilner Poe tribute (+Burroughs box)
Here's what Hal Wilner's been up to, from the Addicted to Noise website:
The works of Beat novelist William Burroughs and gothic novelist/poet Edgar
Allen Poe as interpreted by musicians from Iggy Pop to Laurie Anderson will
be featured on two upcoming box sets.
Closed on Account of Rabies (Nov. 25), a two-CD
set produced by Hal Wilner (Allen Ginsberg, Charles Mingustribute),
features a number of actors/musicians paying homage to America's most
famous dark poet, Poe, who died 150 years ago. Marianne Faithfull, Iggy
Pop, Ken Nordine, Diamanda Galas, the late Jeff Buckley, Dr. John, Deborah
Harry & the Jazz Passengers, actors Christopher Walken, Gabriel Byrne and
director Abel Ferrara are among those celebrating Poe's work on the
collection. The artists will lend their voices to such dark Poe classics as
"The Tell-Tale Heart," "The Raven," "The Black Cat" and "The Masque of the
Red Death."
Released on the same day will be a
still-untitled four-CD set honoring Burroughs (Naked Lunch, Junkie), who died
this year at age 83. The CDs will highlight performances of some of
Burroughs' most well-known works, recorded live between 1971 and 1987.
The collection was produced by John Giorno, a
long-timefixture on the American poetry scene, who produced a number of
albums on his Giorno Poetry Systems Records in the late-1970s and
early-1980s which featured performances from Burroughs, and musical artists
Patti
Smith, Frank Zappa and Laurie Anderson. The set will feature Burroughs,
known for his dry, laconic reading style, performing selections from his
most famous novels, including, Naked Lunch, The Wild Boys, Nova Express,
The Soft Machine and Junkie. -- Gil Kaufman[Fri., Oct. 3, 1997, 9 a.m. PDT]
Lang Thompson
http://members.aol.com/wlt4/index.htm
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 07:22:00 -0700
From: Jeff Spirer <jeffs@hyperreal.org>
Subject: Re: Wilner Poe tribute (+Burroughs box)
It doesn't sound like Wilner had anything to do with the Burroughs, at
least from what you posted. I couldn't find the original article at AtN's
site.
At 12:12 AM 10/6/97 -0400, Lang Thompson wrote:
>Here's what Hal Wilner's been up to, from the Addicted to Noise website:
>
>The works of Beat novelist William Burroughs and gothic novelist/poet Edgar
>Allen Poe as interpreted by musicians from Iggy Pop to Laurie Anderson will
>be featured on two upcoming box sets.
>
> Closed on Account of Rabies (Nov. 25), a two-CD
>set produced by Hal Wilner (Allen Ginsberg, Charles Mingustribute),
>features a number of actors/musicians paying homage to America's most
>famous dark poet, Poe, who died 150 years ago. Marianne Faithfull, Iggy
>Pop, Ken Nordine, Diamanda Galas, the late Jeff Buckley, Dr. John, Deborah
>Harry & the Jazz Passengers, actors Christopher Walken, Gabriel Byrne and
>director Abel Ferrara are among those celebrating Poe's work on the
>collection. The artists will lend their voices to such dark Poe classics as
>"The Tell-Tale Heart," "The Raven," "The Black Cat" and "The Masque of the
>Red Death."
>
> Released on the same day will be a
>still-untitled four-CD set honoring Burroughs (Naked Lunch, Junkie), who died
> this year at age 83. The CDs will highlight performances of some of
>Burroughs' most well-known works, recorded live between 1971 and 1987.
>
> The collection was produced by John Giorno, a
>long-timefixture on the American poetry scene, who produced a number of
>albums on his Giorno Poetry Systems Records in the late-1970s and
>early-1980s which featured performances from Burroughs, and musical artists
>Patti
>Smith, Frank Zappa and Laurie Anderson. The set will feature Burroughs,
>known for his dry, laconic reading style, performing selections from his
>most famous novels, including, Naked Lunch, The Wild Boys, Nova Express,
>The Soft Machine and Junkie. -- Gil Kaufman[Fri., Oct. 3, 1997, 9 a.m. PDT]
>Lang Thompson
>http://members.aol.com/wlt4/index.htm
>
>
>
Jeff Spirer
Axiom/Material
http://www.hyperreal.org/axiom/
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 23:03:02 -0400
From: Lang Thompson <wlt4@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Wilner Poe tribute (+Burroughs box)
Sorry for the confusion: Wilner is only connected with the Poe tribute.
The info about the Burroughs box was part of the original article & I left
it in, thinking it would be of interest to list subscribers.
The original article is at
http://www.addict.com/MNOTW/lofi/971003/971003_1408.shtml
Lang Thompson
http://members.aol.com/wlt4/index.htm
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 12:50:33 UT
From: peter_risser@cinfin.com
Subject: Execution Ground, Again
All right. I've seen people ask this question several times. I am going to ask
it again. I really really really want a copy of the three CD version of
Execution Ground and someone a long time ago said Tzadik was going to reissue
it.
Is this true, or was it just a rumor? Does anyone know for sure?
If it is true, does anyone know when?
Please, could someone in the know clear this up?
Thanks,
Peter
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