***** While FOT may be defunct in the technical sense, their releases are
still available from Ponk, the Kaiser included. (And after misattributing
that other album to Atavistic, you may be wise to doubt my word.)
Lang Thompson
In a message dated 96-11-18 11:38:20 EST, ssmith@kochint.com (Steve Smith)
writes:
<< Aw, geez. Seth has just pointed out the error in my Kaiser post.
Cuneiform is most certainly not defunct. I was in fact thinking of THE
FIVE HEAVENLY TRUTHS on FOT. >>
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From: Wlt4@aol.com
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 01:01:27 -0500
Subject: Song-Poem Website
Thought some of you Rodd Keith fans might be interested. It's at
http://www.channel1.com/users/fxxm/
Lang Thompson
http://members.aol.com/wlt4/index.htm
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From: martinj@SONOMA.EDU
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 00:57:10 -0800 (PST)
Subject: I was wondering...
Does anyone know anything about the possibility of there being another
Painkiller album one day? I know zorn & laswell are probably the 2
busiest people on the planet, but have they scrapped the project, or will
it surface again? Anyone?
J.M.
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From: Steve Smith <ssmith@kochint.com>
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 10:55:19 -0800
Subject: Re: Henry Kaiser
Wlt4@aol.com wrote:
>
> ***** While FOT may be defunct in the technical sense, their releases are
> still available from Ponk, the Kaiser included. (And after misattributing
> that other album to Atavistic, you may be wise to doubt my word.)
Aw, hey, not me. Not after accidentally proclaiming Cuneiform dead! :)
But yes, you raise a point I'd forgotten. I'd heard about Ponk from
Henry a while back but totally spaced.
And in continuing to do penance to Cuneiform, I'd also like to mention
one more recent Kaiser disc worth checking out. THE SIAMESE STEPBROTHERS
(Cuneiform Rune 72, 1995) is quite the interesting record... it pairs
Henry with Bruce Anderson (whom I believe is formerly of MX-80 Sound...
anyone care to confirm?), early Grateful Dead keyboardist Tom Constanten,
drummer Lukas Ligeti (son of the famous Hungarian composer I think)
and bassist Dale Sophiea. Remarkably cliche-free drum, inventive
guitar playing, and an eclectic selection of tunes ranging from
free improvs to Miles Davis's "Agharta Prelude," Sonny Sharrock's
"Blind Willie" and a Tom Constanten solo performance of Scriabin's
Etude for Piano, Op. 42, No. 3 (which fits nicely into recent
discussion of the classical pieces on GRAND GUIGNOL). Some of it
reminds me of Crazy Backwards Alphabet... some doesn't.
Henry also has a new band with last of the Zappa Band stunt guitarists
Mike Kenneally, but I haven't heard it and can't remember the details.
Steve Smith
ssmith@kochint.com
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From: slawlor <slawlor@gwis.com>
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 11:07:28 -0500 (EST)
Subject: first exposure
>Hi there. I'm not sure if I shared this with you guys or not, so if I
>have, please forgive the repetition.
>The first time I ever heard John Zorn was in 1989 on a public radio
>station, though I didn't know who it was until 6 years later. I heard
>this really wacked out piece with screaming, mumbling voices, and a ton
>of changes in the piece. It was around 25 minutes long or so, and the
>only thing I remember about the piece other than the craziness, was that
>it had something to do with Mike Hammer. I recorded the piece, but
>didn't catch what the announcer had said about the song on tape. I gave
>it to a friend of mine, and 5 or 6 years later, I was visiting him and we
>found this thing and started listening to it. "I still don't know what
>the hell this thing is, and I'm not sure how to find out." I had said to
>him.
>well, I got an internet account and left a note on rec.music.newage
>giving a description of the song and what I remember the announcer saying
>about it. For some reason, I thought I remember him saying it was on
>Windham Hill. (I know, you're all rolling on the floor laughing right
>about now. haha)
>I got a response back a few days later saying that it was a piece called
>Spilaine on Nunsuch by John Zorn. So, I got it and that's how I heard
>about John Zorn. A friend of mine, when I told him that it was Zorn who
>did that crazy song said that Zorn was probably the electronic equivilent
>to Cecil Taylor. Is he right about that do you think? Well, that's my
>story. Bye.
scott K. Lawlor
3358 Prange Dr.
Cuyahoga Falls, OH. 44223
Phone, 330-922-4895
http://w3.gwis.com/~slawlor
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From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <proussel@ichips.intel.com>
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 08:50:23 -0800
Subject: Re: first exposure
On Tue, 19 Nov 1996 11:07:28 -0500 (EST) slawlor wrote:
>
> >Hi there. I'm not sure if I shared this with you guys or not, so if I
> >have, please forgive the repetition.
> >The first time I ever heard John Zorn was in 1989 on a public radio
> >station, though I didn't know who it was until 6 years later. I heard
> >this really wacked out piece with screaming, mumbling voices, and a ton
> >of changes in the piece. It was around 25 minutes long or so, and the
> >only thing I remember about the piece other than the craziness, was that
> >it had something to do with Mike Hammer. I recorded the piece, but
> >didn't catch what the announcer had said about the song on tape. I gave
> >it to a friend of mine, and 5 or 6 years later, I was visiting him and we
> >found this thing and started listening to it. "I still don't know what
> >the hell this thing is, and I'm not sure how to find out." I had said to
> >him.
> >well, I got an internet account and left a note on rec.music.newage
^^^^^^
Definitely the news group where to post such enquiry :-).
> >giving a description of the song and what I remember the announcer saying
> >about it. For some reason, I thought I remember him saying it was on
> >Windham Hill. (I know, you're all rolling on the floor laughing right
> >about now. haha)
> >I got a response back a few days later saying that it was a piece called
> >Spilaine on Nunsuch by John Zorn. So, I got it and that's how I heard
> >about John Zorn. A friend of mine, when I told him that it was Zorn who
> >did that crazy song said that Zorn was probably the electronic equivilent
> >to Cecil Taylor. Is he right about that do you think? Well, that's my
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >story. Bye.
And Zorn barely touches any electronic equipment... It makes you wonder if
people really listen to (or maybe they think that making a good statement is more
important as providing a good description).
Patrice.
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From: Jeff Morris <morris@wg.com>
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 12:49:06 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Stuttgart, Germany
Hi. I will be spending some time in Stuttgart this December on business. Does anyone know of any good used record stores ( preferably vinyl ) but cd as well in the Stuttgart area? I collect "avant garde" jazz - stuff like Braxton, AEC, Cecil Taylor, Tim Berne, etc. Also, does anyone knw if there are any good jazz clubs in the Stuttgart area?
Thanks
- - Jeff morris@wg.com
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From: Leon Lee/SYBASE <Leon.Lee@sybase.com>
Date: 18 Nov 96 16:14:13 EDT
Subject: -No Subject-
>The multimedia barrage consisted of video images projected in four places on
>the walls surrounding the stage, but thankfully above stage level. There were
>also overhead projectors superimposing liquidy visuals better suited to
>progrock. The content ranged from very pedestrian psychedelics to belly
dancing
>to grass chewing plains animals. There were brief images of what might have
>been a hebrew ritual but otherwise it was horrible and nothing that Zorn could
>have wanted.
>
>What about this long hair?
>
>The music was astounding. Further evidence that Zorn can do no wrong.
>Hopefully, this Masada project, or some incarnation of it, will last. As a
>vehicle for displaying his skills as an arranger, as well as his melodic and
>harmonic ability, I think Masada is unparalleled.
>
>Forget happy. Joey Baron, the world's most dynamic drummer.
>
>Apologies for any formatting snafus, I'm new at all this.
>
>Sam Jenniches, via the above address.
>ps. thanks rizzi. typed a little too much.
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From: Marcus Klein <101370.2613@compuserve.com>
Date: 19 Nov 96 14:32:54 EST
Subject: Re: new Tzadiks, Masada 7, Bailey's jungle record
>>Consumer buying tip: for those of you living in and about NYC,
>>the Knitting Factory has copies of the new Tzadik CDs (well,
>>the two Zorn releases anyway, not sure about the others),
>>Masada 7 on DIW, and the Derek Bailey jungle record on Avant.
Hi there !
This Bailey record is it really Drum'n'Bass ?
And how is it done, "real" instruments or just samples ?
Thanx,
Marcus Klein
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From: JonAbbey@aol.com
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 14:51:47 -0500
Subject: Re: new Tzadiks, Masada 7, Bailey's jungle record
<<This Bailey record is it really Drum'n'Bass ?
And how is it done, "real" instruments or just samples ?>>
Derek's really playing (maybe I should say he's actually playing) and the
drum'n'bass is supplied by a DJ. IMHO, after a listen or two, I didn't like
it at all. I love Bailey's work in a lot of contexts, but it was tough for me
to concentrate on it here with the mediocre, generic beats being laid down
behind it.
If you're interested in Bailey: Try Aida (solo), Dart Drug, Village Life, the
one with the Ruins (Saisoro?), the Emanem release with Braxton, etc. Pretty
much try any other release he's been on before this one.
If you're interested in jungle: the Metalheadz compilation, the Photek EP, A
Guy Called Gerald-Black Secret Technology. Any of these may make you see what
the fuss is about. But don't listen to the Bailey record and dismiss the
jungle genre because of it.
Zorn's Filmworks V, on the other hand, is superb. Forty-plus short pieces for
a film by a Japanese gay porn director with a band of Zorn, Marc Ribot,
Robert Quine, and Cyro Baptista. Great variety, great music.
Jon
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From: "James L. Kirchmer" <jamesk@jamesk.seanet.com>
