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From: zorn-list-owner@xmission.com
To: zorn-list-digest@xmission.com
Subject: zorn-list Digest V2 #24
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zorn-list Digest Tuesday, 12 November 1996 Volume 02 : Number 024
In this issue:
Re: Masada Chamber Parts
Buckethead
Re: Buckethead
Mr Bungle percussionist
Laswell/Namlook
Re: Bailey/Metheny
Re: Bennik/Douglas's Serpentine
Re: Bar Kokhba in France
Re: The Cabinnet
Re: Laswell/Namlook
Re: Mr Bungle percussionist
masada in nyc
Re: Laswell/Namlook
Re: Laswell/Namlook
Prelapse at the Knitting Factory
Discography of John Zorn version 10.0 just out
THE ART OF REMEMRANCE - SIMON WIESENTHAL (fwd)
Re: Masada Chamber Parts
Hellborg, Lane, Q-258
Masada in Boston
Zorn / Chadbourne
Re: Masada in Boston
Re: Zorn / Chadbourne
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From: terry kroetsch f <tkroetsc@mach1.wlu.ca>
Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 21:34:33 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Masada Chamber Parts
We, a new music org. in Ontario, are considering performing Masada
Chamber Ensembles " Bar Kokhba" (in part or full) live next year. Does
anyone know I would go about getting the score or parts or both for this?
Thanks,
NUMUS c/o Terry Kroetsch
P.S. personal request: can someone tell me how many albums have been
released by Medeski, Martin and Wood? Also, has anyone heard the Hellborg,
Lane and Apt.Q.258? And whats with three name bands....
------------------------------
From: kevinn@seis.com (Kevin Neales)
Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 22:50:05 -0500
Subject: Buckethead
I've heard about a few new Buckethead albums
Buckethead "Plays Disney"
Praxis"Live"
Arcana II
Does anybody know when any of these might be released.
Kevin Neales
kevinn@seis.com
------------------------------
From: Jeff Spirer <jeffs@hyperreal.com>
Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 19:28:25 -0800
Subject: Re: Buckethead
At 10:50 PM 11/10/96 -0500, Kevin Neales wrote:
>I've heard about a few new Buckethead albums
>Buckethead "Plays Disney"
>Praxis"Live"
>Arcana II
>
>Does anybody know when any of these might be released.
Praxis Live in Europe will be released early next year on a new label that
will put out Bill Laswell CDs.
Arcana II will be released in the first half of next year on Axiom.
I talked with Buckethead about the Disney album about six months ago and he
said he hadn't recorded it yet, at that time. That fact combined with the
erratic release and distribution of Avant makes it anyone's guess.
I also get asked regularly about the Praxis studio album that was supposed
to come out on SubMeta. That project has been shelved indefinitely.
There will be another Buckethead solo CD, label will be announced later.
Jeff Spirer
http://www.hyperreal.com/axiom/
Axiom Records/Material Communications
------------------------------
From: Adam Ritchie <ritchie@satech.net.au>
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 22:43:34 +1030
Subject: Mr Bungle percussionist
Hi there,
I recently saw Mr bungle in Adelaide, Australia a couple of weeks ago
which was one of the most amazing shows I've experienced apart from MTM,
Le Fura De Baus from Spain. Anyway, what I wanted to know was who was
the percussionist on the Australian Tour? Was it Ed Mann from the Frank
Zappa group because I read in a local street mag that the percussionist
was an x-Zappa player. Anyone know? Thanks
Ritchie (Chimera)
------------------------------
From: Adam Ritchie <ritchie@satech.net.au>
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 22:49:48 +1030
Subject: Laswell/Namlook
Hi there,
I recently purchased a Bill Laswell CD entitled Psychonavigation which
is in collaboration with Pete Namlook. I'm curious to what Pete Namlook
does(Excuse my lack of knowledge)? Is he a keys player, programmer,
type person because there are some excellent sounds on this disc.
Ritchie (Chimera)
------------------------------
From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <proussel@ichips.intel.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 08:24:31 -0800
Subject: Re: Bailey/Metheny
On Sat, 9 Nov 1996 13:32:50 +0200 (GMT+0200) silver whale wrote:
>
> On Fri, 8 Nov 1996 Wlt4@aol.com wrote:
> > A lot of you probably already know about this but in case you don't: I j=
> ust
> > talked to Mark at the Knitting Factory and he said that Bailey is coming =
> over
> > to NYC soon for two days in the studio and two live shows with Metheny, t=
> he
> > best of which will be collected for an album. This is apparently the sol=
> e
> > purpose for Bailey's trip so it may be the last chance to see him in the =
> US.
>
> "Last chance"? Is there something that I don=B4t know... I must confess I=
> =20
> don=B4t have the faintest idea of mr Bailey=B4s age..., I know he has been=
> =20
> around for some time, thought...
Born on January 29, 1930 in Sheffield (UK).
Patrice.
------------------------------
From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <proussel@ichips.intel.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 08:34:51 -0800
Subject: Re: Bennik/Douglas's Serpentine
On Sat, 9 Nov 1996 08:08:22 -0800 (PST) Holtby wrote:
>
> >Richie wrote:
> >>There's also mentioned that a new Dave Douglas solo project
> >>and a Tiny Bell Trio releases. Anyone have more info?
> >
> >Dave told me in July that a live TBT will be recorded this fall and
> >released early in 97.
> >His Sanctuary project -- two trumpets, two samplers, two basses and two
> >drums -- is supposed to be out on the Avant label very soon.
> >
> >Dave said that beyond these, he's also planning to release an orchestral
> >work with Friedlander and Surin soloing, something with Trilok Gurtu and
> >duos with Kenny Wheeler. These last two were still in the planning stages.
> >
> >James Hale
> >Music Journalist
> >Ottawa
> >
> >
> >
> > I, too began salivating when I saw the Clusone Trio/Dave Douglas disc
> pending upon reading the Dave Douglas Discography. I queried Rykodisc on this,
> however, and was informed that, although they were touring together, no
> plans were in place regarding recording.
> Does Rykodisc/Grammavision speak the truth, or does the Zorn-list
> know better?
Jon Abbey told me about it. He talked to Ernst Reijseger briefly during the
last Victoriaville festival and Ernst mentioned that they had recorded a record
with Dave Douglas that would be released on Gramavision.
But, as all we know, between record projects and what ends up in the stores,
a lot can happen :-).
Patrice.
------------------------------
From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <proussel@ichips.intel.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 08:40:01 -0800
Subject: Re: Bar Kokhba in France
On Sat, 9 Nov 1996 23:33:19 +0100 Olivier Nguyen Van Tan wrote:
>
> BTW, do you hear the CD LengthChe (or something like that...) of Naked =
> City?
> Is it worth a lot of money (226 francs or more than 40 $) for 32 =
> minutes?
Knowing that it will be reissued on Tzadik with TORTURE GARDEN, je
garderai mes precieux FF.
Patrice.
------------------------------
From: herb@eskimo.com (Herb Levy)
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 11:07:41 -0800
Subject: Re: The Cabinnet
>Would this be Gerry Hemmingway? I saw him for a measly $5.00 canadian at
>the Guelph jazz festival and he blew me away. Anyone who can keep an
>audience rivitted for an hour with a solo drum-set concert is amazing. I
>bought two of his CDs: 'solo acoustic works 1983-1994' and 'solo
>electro-acoustic works 1983-1994' and both are increadible. Listening to
>the solo acoustic stuff in the dark is spookier than anything else i've
>heard...he uses every extended technique you can use on the drums, and
>adds more of his own. His electro-acoustic stuff is also brilliant. Wow.
>
The Hemingway solo discs ARE really good. Random Acoustics discs (and lots
of other European improv etc., are also usually available in the States
from Rastascan Records, from Gino Robair of the SF Bay area group Splatter
Trio:
Rastascan
P O Box 3073
San Leandro, CA 94578
e-mail: <ginorobair@aol.com>
North Country may also have them.
Herb Levy
herb@eskimo.com
------------------------------
From: martinj@SONOMA.EDU
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 11:56:22 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: Laswell/Namlook
Hi.
Pete namlook, I believe, is a keyboardboard player. He has his own FAX
label with upwards of 250 (yes, 250) releases on it. He is an ambient
artist who seems to never sit still (much like bill laswell). If you
want some more goos stuff, check out Transonic 3: Future Primitive. It's
on his Fax label, and I think is really cool. That's about all I know of
the man. To my knowledge, he has no web page, buy it's worth checking
anyway. OK. bye.
Josh Martin
On Mon, 11 Nov 1996, Adam Ritchie wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> I recently purchased a Bill Laswell CD entitled Psychonavigation which
> is in collaboration with Pete Namlook. I'm curious to what Pete Namlook
> does(Excuse my lack of knowledge)? Is he a keys player, programmer,
> type person because there are some excellent sounds on this disc.
>
> Ritchie (Chimera)
>
------------------------------
From: john shiurba <shiurba@sfo.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 12:54:36 -0700
Subject: Re: Mr Bungle percussionist
> I recently saw Mr bungle in Adelaide, Australia a couple of weeks ago
> which was one of the most amazing shows I've experienced apart from MTM,
> Le Fura De Baus from Spain. Anyway, what I wanted to know was who was
> the percussionist on the Australian Tour? Was it Ed Mann from the Frank
> Zappa group because I read in a local street mag that the percussionist
> was an x-Zappa player. Anyone know? Thanks
it was probably Willie Winant who also plays on the most recent record.
- --
shiurba@sfo.com
http://www.sfo.com/~shiurba
------------------------------
From: "John E. Young" <youngje@well.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 14:19:45 -0800 (PST)
Subject: masada in nyc
i don't know if anybody's posted about this yet, but i just saw in
the latest knitting factory mailing that masada will do 2 shows a
night there from dec. 6-12. time for a trip to the big city...
jy
------------------------------
From: mturner@netcom.com (Mark Turner)
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 14:40:58 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: Laswell/Namlook
> Hi.
> Pete namlook, I believe, is a keyboardboard player. He has his own FAX
> label with upwards of 250 (yes, 250) releases on it. He is an ambient
> artist who seems to never sit still (much like bill laswell). If you
> want some more goos stuff, check out Transonic 3: Future Primitive. It's
> on his Fax label, and I think is really cool. That's about all I know of
> the man. To my knowledge, he has no web page, buy it's worth checking
> anyway. OK. bye.
> Josh Martin
I think TRANSONIC 3 is a fine release, but I should point out that
Pete Namlook himself does not play on this one. Instead, it is Robert
Musso, Bill Laswell's sometime engineer. I believe Laswell also
plays bass on this release.
And there is an excellent Fax web page at:
http://www.hyperreal.com/music/labels/fax/discog.html
- --
Mark Turner
mturner@netcom.com
------------------------------
From: pauljay@connexus.apana.org.au (Paul Jacobson)
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 10:30:08 +1100
Subject: Re: Laswell/Namlook
martinj@SONOMA.EDU wrote:
> To my knowledge, he has no web page, buy it's worth checking
> anyway. OK. bye.
There is in fact a FAX home page at hyperreal:
http://www.hyperreal.com/music/labels/fax
which has info about Pete Namlook, a complete discography for the label and
sublabels and links to reviews.
I'd second the recommendation of Transonic 3 and extend it to include
Transonic 1 and 2. Transonic 1 is due to be reissued on the Ambient World
label in the near future and Transonic 2 may still be available (despite
runs limited to 1000 copies). Transonic is Bob Musso with some help from
Laswell on various tracks. Worth checking out are Laswell's other
collaborations on the label, although these may be getting hard to find.
Peace out
Paul
webpages:> http://connexus.apana.org.au/~pauljay
------------------------------
From: "Mason Wendell" <prelapse@pop.tiac.net>
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 18:41:39 +0000
Subject: Prelapse at the Knitting Factory
Good Golly Miss Molly!
First, please let me apologise for such late e-notice about this
show.
So here's the scoop.
Wednesday, November 13 at 9:00 Prelapse will be playing at the
Knitting Factory. The Knit. is at 74 Leonard St. NYC.
In NY take the 1 or 9 train to Franklin St.
So come on down and shake it out.
Mason
************************************************************
* Mason Wendell *
* bassist\composer *
*Prelapse- Naked City's music & new music for loud ensemble*
* http://www.tiac.net/users/prelapse/mwendell.html *
************************************************************
------------------------------
From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <proussel@ichips.intel.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 16:02:15 -0800
Subject: Discography of John Zorn version 10.0 just out
To let you know that I updated the Zorn discography at the WNUR web
site:
http://www.nwu.edu/WNUR/jazz/artists/zorn.john/discog.html
More than 200 records are listed.
Enjoy, and thanks again for the contributors (I hope I did not
forget any names in the credit section),
Patrice.
------------------------------
From: David Newgarden <dn@panix.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 21:19:38 -0500 (EST)
Subject: THE ART OF REMEMRANCE - SIMON WIESENTHAL (fwd)
Here is some info on Philadelphia screening of T.A.O.R. which includes Bar
Kokhba soundtrack. I believe there are more U.S. screenings to follow.
- ---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: 11 Nov 96 21:01:50 EST
From: Werner Schmiedel <100275.2012@CompuServe.COM>
To: David Newgarden <dn@panix.com>
Subject: THE ART OF REMEMRANCE - SIMON WIESENTHAL
Dear Friends,
We are very pleased that our documentary film THE ART OF REMEMBRANCE
- - SIMON WIESENTHAL (a documentary feature by Johanna Heer and Werner
Schmiedel) will have a one week special engagement in Philadelphia at
the RITZ at the Bourse starting from December 11.
As filmmakers we would like to inform as many interested people as
possible about the upcoming screening dates. We would highly appreciate
it if you could recommend the screenings to people you know who might
want to see THE ART OF REMEMBRANCE - SIMON WIESENTHAL.
Many thanks for your attention in this matter.
For further information please feel free to visit our WWW-page at:
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/RLP/sw. html
River Lights Pictures, Inc.
(212) 226-1526
------------------------------
From: IOUaLive1@aol.com
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 01:50:18 -0500
Subject: Re: Masada Chamber Parts
In a message dated 96-11-10 21:46:32 EST, tkroetsc@mach1.wlu.ca (terry
kroetsch f) writes:
> NUMUS c/o Terry Kroetsch
>
> P.S. personal request: can someone tell me how many albums have been
> released by Medeski, Martin and Wood? Also, has anyone heard the Hellborg,
> Lane and Apt.Q.258? And whats with three name bands....
I'm very familiar with the Jonas Hellborg, Shawn Lane, Apt.Q258
collaboration. Improvised fusion at its finest. I saw them recently in NYC,
and Jeff Sipe( Apt. Q258) told me that in the near future they may be doing a
record, produced by Bill Laswell and featuring the nephew of Nusrat Fateh Ali
Khan on vocals. Would be very interesting.
------------------------------
From: seanter@ix.netcom.com (Sean Terwilliger )
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 06:05:26 -0800
Subject: Hellborg, Lane, Q-258
You wrote:
>and Jeff Sipe( Apt. Q258) told me that in the near future they may be
doing a
>record, produced by Bill Laswell and featuring the nephew of Nusrat
Fateh Ali
>Khan on vocals. Would be very interesting.
>
>
Wow! Jeff, any truth to this?
------------------------------
From: Bob Kowalski <BKowalski@genetics.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 09:20:09 -0500
Subject: Masada in Boston
Hi all ~
What does one do in preparation to the attendance of a John Zorn
concert? I've gone to the New England Conservatory to see students
put on a show of Zorn's music (Masada, solo for drums and Naked City.)
Actually the question is how to prepare the girlfriend. She's not too
partial to 98 % of my Zorn collection. Then again, she was to mellowed
(read : fast asleep) by the Bill Frisell show about a year ago. At least
she likes listening to Tom Waits, the Lounge Lizards and Michael Nyman.
And I defiantly enjoy the tunes of Bill Morrisey and Greg Brown...
Like many I love talking music but this list often reads like a record swap
meeting filled with stamp collectors. But enough silliness. Chow for
now.
Bob
------------------------------
From: Seth Gordon <killick@connix.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 12:24:47 -0500
Subject: Zorn / Chadbourne
1. Has anyone heard the new Zorn / Chadbourne album? I saw it the other
day and was thinking of getting it, but I put it off. Is it just a bunch
of squeaky noises? Or do they make things a bit more interesting? Is it
similar to the Zorn/Bailey/Parker or the Zorn/Frith albums?
2. Does anyone know just what's going on with the live Naked City album?
After "Zorn Month" at the knit a few years back, the Knit announced they
had taped all the N.C. shows (over ten hours worth, as I remember) and
would release them as a box set, proceeds going to charity. Well...
never heard another thing. Everyone should e-mail the Knit and tell them
to get on the ball with this one. It's been THREE YEARS now!
------------------------------
From: "George Curran <GCURRAN.US.ORACLE.COM>" <GCURRAN@us.oracle.com>
Date: 12 Nov 96 08:59:42 -0800
Subject: Re: Masada in Boston
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You have introduced an interesting topic: how does one approach Zorn's music?
Put another way, how would you introduce a total neophyte to the music? This
introduces questions as to how you categorize Zorn's music. You mentioned the
NEC Zorn fest. If you attended the entire 2 day event, you realized how broad
a range the music extends. Moreover, you do not have to like everything to
appreciate what he has accomplished. I will admit I did not have much fun
listening to Cobra at the Middle East, but I am really looking forward to
Masada at the ICA. I prefer News for Lulu to Naked City. But enough of me, I
am very interested in hearing others recommendations.
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Hi all ~
What does one do in preparation to the attendance of a John Zorn
concert? I've gone to the New England Conservatory to see students
put on a show of Zorn's music (Masada, solo for drums and Naked City.)
Actually the question is how to prepare the girlfriend. She's not too
partial to 98 % of my Zorn collection. Then again, she was to mellowed
(read : fast asleep) by the Bill Frisell show about a year ago. At least
she likes listening to Tom Waits, the Lounge Lizards and Michael Nyman.
And I defiantly enjoy the tunes of Bill Morrisey and Greg Brown...
Like many I love talking music but this list often reads like a record swap
meeting filled with stamp collectors. But enough silliness. Chow for
now.
Bob
- --=_ORCL_9172871_0_11919611121035120--
------------------------------
From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <proussel@ichips.intel.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 10:27:46 -0800
Subject: Re: Zorn / Chadbourne
On Tue, 12 Nov 1996 12:24:47 -0500 Seth Gordon wrote:
>
> 1. Has anyone heard the new Zorn / Chadbourne album? I saw it the other
> day and was thinking of getting it, but I put it off. Is it just a bunch
> of squeaky noises? Or do they make things a bit more interesting? Is it
> similar to the Zorn/Bailey/Parker or the Zorn/Frith albums?
>
> 2. Does anyone know just what's going on with the live Naked City album?
> After "Zorn Month" at the knit a few years back, the Knit announced they
> had taped all the N.C. shows (over ten hours worth, as I remember) and
> would release them as a box set, proceeds going to charity. Well...
> never heard another thing. Everyone should e-mail the Knit and tell them
> to get on the ball with this one. It's been THREE YEARS now!
From what I know, John Zorn does not want the Knitting Factory to release
anything under his name (it took two years and a lot of sweat to get out
the COBRA thing...). Don't know the exact reason why, but having two labels
he completely controls makes me think that he does not need help from
anybody to release his music.
Patrice.
------------------------------
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