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From: zorn-list-owner@xmission.com
To: zorn-list-digest@xmission.com
Subject: zorn-list Digest V2 #13
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zorn-list Digest Thursday, 5 September 1996 Volume 02 : Number 013
In this issue:
Re: MASADA LIVE/Jazz Door.
Re: MASADA LIVE/Jazz Door.
Re: Laswell Live
Painkiller reissues?
Re: "Harass" with Derek Baily and Zorn
Bible Launcher
Harras and silence
Re: Bible Launcher
Re: Harras and silence
eskelin
Jaron Lanier
Re: eskelin
New Tzadiks for November posted
Re: New Tzadiks for November posted
Re: New Tzadiks for November posted
Zorn at Bumbershoot?
Re: Zorn at Bumbershoot?
Masada Tour
Re: frisco patton/zorn gig
Re: Masada Tour/Masada on NPR radio
Re: B. Previte, A. Fier, A. Parkins
Re: human feel
Masada in Philadelphia
naked city vocalist
Re: naked city vocalist
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From: Stefan.Negele@munich.netsurf.de (Stefan Negele)
Date: Sun, 25 Aug 96 01:18:03 MEZ
Subject: Re: MASADA LIVE/Jazz Door.
> 3)Is it really Kenny Wollesen on drums? It does sound like joey. I think
Patrice already provided you with the venue info, so the only thing left
to say is that it is indeed Kenny Wollesen on drums. I mean. he's in the
video.. and just in case I wouldn't know what he looks like.. John said
his name a couple of times, which of course has been cut out for the CD.
:) take care of you
Stefan
- --
EMail: Stefan.Negele@munich.netsurf.de
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From: IOUaLive1@aol.com
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 19:50:33 -0400
Subject: Re: MASADA LIVE/Jazz Door.
In a message dated 96-08-23 23:59:56 EDT, stickman@warwick.net (Stickman)
writes:
> 1) Date of show
> 2)Venue
> 3)Is it really Kenny Wollesen on drums?
It is in fact a show from Hamburg, 11/12/94 like Patrice stated. I have an
FM of this show, and I compared them and it is the same. And it is
definitely Kenny Wollensen.
This particular lineup did play at the Knitting Factory in NY, in January of
'94 I believe. I think this boot cd company just uses incorrect venues to
try and conceal the source of the show. I heard Zorn say once (jokingly),
"That boot sounds pretty good, I oughta put that out myself.."
IOUaLive1@aol.com
------------------------------
From: IOUaLive1@aol.com
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 19:50:33 -0400
Subject: Re: Laswell Live
In a message dated 96-08-24 10:21:58 EDT, gimpys@earthlink.net (Deborah
Christman) writes:
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From: pauljay@connexus.apana.org.au (Paul Jacobson)
Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 11:00:10 +1000
Subject: Painkiller reissues?
Hi,
I picked up a tzadik catalog (put out by the Australian distributor)
yesterday which lists a number of upcoming release in the tzadik archival
series.
These included Painkiller's Guts of a Virgin, Buried Secrets and Execution
Ground (3CD). Also listed is The Parachute Years (3CD) which I assume would
include Archery which was released on Parachute.
Does anyone have any information as to when these releases are due out or
the track listing of the Parachute Years set?
Peace
Paul
------------------------------
From: Wlt4@aol.com
Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 18:08:24 -0400
Subject: Re: "Harass" with Derek Baily and Zorn
Here's my review from the current issue of Option:
DEREK BAILEY/JOHN ZORN/WILLIAM PARKER//Harras
Sure, you know that free improvisation is generally more fun
to read about than to hear. It too often results in a
cacophonous austerity that tries to banish much of what
makes music so vital. Not Harras, which is vital,
smart and altogether seductive. That's not just the result
of these musicians' remarkable talents and vast experience;
God knows, they've each had less than fascinating moments.
But the three lengthy tracks here (recorded live at the
Knitting Factory) don't avoid the music's sensual nature.
Saxist Zorn will blow an extended bluesy melody while Bailey
throws brittle fragments of guitar underneath. Parker may
respond with a flurry of bass runs. A couple of minutes
later, the mood will have shifted. Zorn now worries over a
series of staccato notes that Parker is prodding with his
bass. Bailey's slurred electric guitar phrases keep the
peace. On paper, this sounds arbitrary. On record, it's
lively with an understandable flow that makes Harras
an ideal album for both neophytes and fans. Be sure to
listen for the "hidden" track: the last piece abruptly
stops like the recorder had been shut off. There's five
minutes of silence and then an introspective Bailey solo.
(Avant, Disk Union, 2-3 Kanda Awajicho, Chiyoda-ku, Tokyo
101, Japan) -- Lang Thompson
Most of my other reviews are available on my website
http://members.aol.com/wlt4/index.htm
------------------------------
From: Andy Marks <amarks@parrot.mts.com>
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 96 08:02:32
Subject: Bible Launcher
Does anyone know what's up this "Bible Launcher" release? The Tzadik web site
lists it as post-poned until February 1997, but I saw it in the
store the other day. I also seem to recall someone posting here
about it's delay as well.
- -------------------------------------
E-mail: amarks@parrot.mts.com
Date: 8/26/96
Time: 8:2:32 AM
This message was sent by Chameleon
- -------------------------------------
------------------------------
From: Nathaniel Dorward <ndorward@is.dal.ca>
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 10:32:07 -0300 (ADT)
Subject: Harras and silence
Got _Harras_ a little while ago, and hadn't listened to all of it till
this morning. Great stuff, especially once the group digs in on the 2nd
and 3rd tracks. HOWEVER..... as I'm sitting here enjoying it, and Zorn's
squalling blissfully, the CD cuts off into silence. This is at about the
23-minute mark in the 3rd track. I'm completely mystified. Furthermore,
after five minutes' more silence, then finally Bailey enters, playing very
quietly.
So what gives? Is this a flaw in the CD or something deliberate?
(There's a 1-1/2 minute dead silence on _Saisoro_ which _is_ definitely
deliberate: but here the silence comes in the middle of a climax--the
musicians haven't stopped playing.) Is this on all the copies of
_Harras_ or just mine?
Nate Dorward.
------------------------------
From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <proussel@ichips.intel.com>
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 08:21:58 -0700
Subject: Re: Bible Launcher
On Mon, 26 Aug 96 08:02:32 Andy Marks wrote:
>
> Does anyone know what's up this "Bible Launcher" release? The Tzadik web site
> lists it as post-poned until February 1997, but I saw it in the
> store the other day. I also seem to recall someone posting here
> about it's delay as well.
Steve Smith from Koch (Tzadik distributor) posted a week ago about the record
being postponed. Surprisingly, few people mentioned that they found a copy of
it at various Borders locations. I found my copy yesterday at Tower Records
(Portland, OR). With only Borders having it, it could have been a mistake
(sending the records to them and changing (Tzadik) their minds at the very
last minute), but with Tower Records having it also, I feel that the idea
of postponing the record got... postponed :-). Any precision Steve?
Patrice.
------------------------------
From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <proussel@ichips.intel.com>
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 08:23:41 -0700
Subject: Re: Harras and silence
On Mon, 26 Aug 1996 10:32:07 -0300 (ADT) Nathaniel Dorward wrote:
>
> Got _Harras_ a little while ago, and hadn't listened to all of it till
> this morning. Great stuff, especially once the group digs in on the 2nd
> and 3rd tracks. HOWEVER..... as I'm sitting here enjoying it, and Zorn's
> squalling blissfully, the CD cuts off into silence. This is at about the
> 23-minute mark in the 3rd track. I'm completely mystified. Furthermore,
> after five minutes' more silence, then finally Bailey enters, playing very
> quietly.
>
> So what gives? Is this a flaw in the CD or something deliberate?
> (There's a 1-1/2 minute dead silence on _Saisoro_ which _is_ definitely
> deliberate: but here the silence comes in the middle of a climax--the
> musicians haven't stopped playing.) Is this on all the copies of
> _Harras_ or just mine?
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
187 - HARRAS: Derek Bailey, John Zorn, William Parker
1/ Morning Harras 10:19
2/ Noon Harras 8:59
3/ Evening Harras 36:01
Recorded by James McLean live at the Knitting Factory, New York City
Produced by John Zorn and Derek Bailey
Derek Bailey: guitar; John Zorn: alto; William Parker: bass.
1995 - Avant (Japan), Avan 056 (CD)
Note: the silence on the track #3 has the following explanation:
"According to Derek Bailey, the abrupt cutoff was planned. Derek wanted
to end it "on a high". The Bailey solo material appended after the silence
was apparently Zorn's idea." (thanks to Peter Stubley/Lynn Rardin)
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Patrice.
------------------------------
From: "M.Ho" <mus4mth@atlas.vcu.edu>
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 96 13:26:25 EDT
Subject: eskelin
I just put in an order for Ellery Eskelin's The Sun Died with Marc
Ribot and Kenny Wolleson. Has anyone heard it or can provide a review? I
know that thay played the Whatis Jazz? festival--did anyone check it
out. I'm just very anxious because I think these three guys are
incredble on their own, no less as a trio. Also, does anyone know what
album it was that Eskelin played with Jim Black?
------------------------------
From: seanter@ix.netcom.com (Sean Terwilliger )
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 10:58:35 -0700
Subject: Jaron Lanier
I recently came across a Jaron Lanier CD. Does anyone know anything
about this? Who is on it? What it sounds like???
- -Sean
------------------------------
From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <proussel@ichips.intel.com>
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 11:25:55 -0700
Subject: Re: eskelin
On Mon, 26 Aug 96 13:26:25 EDT "M.Ho" wrote:
>
> I just put in an order for Ellery Eskelin's The Sun Died with Marc
> Ribot and Kenny Wolleson. Has anyone heard it or can provide a review? I
> know that thay played the Whatis Jazz? festival--did anyone check it
> out. I'm just very anxious because I think these three guys are
> incredble on their own, no less as a trio. Also, does anyone know what
> album it was that Eskelin played with Jim Black?
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
018 - JAZZ TRASH: Ellery Eskelin
1/ Jazz Trash (Eskelin) 7:20
2/ Harmonia (Eskelin) 3:57
3/ Jargon (Eskelin) 12:44
4/ Interfaith (Eskelin) 5:07
5/ Untitled One (Eskelin) 8:14
6/ Rain (Eskelin) 5:24
7/ Trip Wire (Eskelin) 13:00
8/ 100 Days (Eskelin) 7:01
9/ 40 West (Eskelin) 8:25
Recorded on October 27 & 28, 1994 at Clinton Studio B, New York City
Produced by Karl Hereim
Ellery Eskelin: tenor; Andrea Parkins: accordion, sampler; Jim Black: drums.
1995 - Songlines (Canada), SGL 1506-2 (CD)
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
021 - THE SONGLINES ANTHOLOGY: various artists
This record features Dave Douglas' Tiny Bell Trio, Ellery Eskelin, Andy
Laster's Hydra, the Patrick Zimmerli Ensemble, Babkas, the Ben Monder Trio,
Paul Plimley, Francis Houle & Andreas Kahre, Matt Rogalsky, Human Feel, The
Recyclers.
Ellery Eskelin plays on one track:
?/ Untitled One (Eskelin) 7:54
Recorded live at the Knitting Factory, New York on March 20, 1994
Ellery Eskelin: tenor; Andrea Parkins: accordion, organ; Jim Black: drums.
1996 - Songlines (Canada), SGL 4201-2 (CD)
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
*** - ???: Ellery Eskelin
Ellery Eskelin: tenor; Andrea Parkins: accordion, sampler; Jim Black: drums.
1997 - Hat ART (Switzerland), ??? (CD)
Note: not released yet (planned in 1997).
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------
From: Steve Smith <ssmith@kochint.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 11:54:18 -0700
Subject: New Tzadiks for November posted
Hi MICC and Zornlisters:
Information about the seven new Tzadik releases for November, including
two NEW volumes of Zorn's Filmworks and a few more surprises in the
Archival Series "Coming Releases" column, is now posted on the Koch
website:
http://kochint.com/tzadik.html
Enjoy!
Steve
ssmith@kochint.com
------------------------------
From: "M.Ho" <mus4mth@atlas.vcu.edu>
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 96 12:52:26 EDT
Subject: Re: New Tzadiks for November posted
Just took a look at the Tzadik November releases and came across the
Lunatic Fringe series. What is the basis for this series? Just
curious.
------------------------------
From: john shiurba <shiurba@sfo.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 14:16:49 +0000
Subject: Re: New Tzadiks for November posted
> Information about the seven new Tzadik releases for November, including
> two NEW volumes of Zorn's Filmworks and a few more surprises in the
> Archival Series "Coming Releases" column, is now posted on the Koch
> website:
i'm glad to see that "Godard" and "Parachute Yrs" will be available soon.
What is Naked City "Black Box" ?
- --
shiurba@sfo.com
http://www.sfo.com/~shiurba
------------------------------
From: Some guy <clovell@reed.edu>
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 21:38:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Zorn at Bumbershoot?
Is Zorn appearing at Bumbershoot in Seattle this weekend? Schedules don't
seem to indicate that he is, but I remember listmembers saying he was
supposed to ...
Chris Lovell
clovell@reed.edu
------------------------------
From: herb@eskimo.com (Herb Levy)
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 22:22:04 -0700
Subject: Re: Zorn at Bumbershoot?
Chris Lovell asks:
>Is Zorn appearing at Bumbershoot in Seattle this weekend? Schedules don't
>seem to indicate that he is, but I remember listmembers saying he was
>supposed to ...
I'd forgotten to respond about this before.
I'm not sure who had said that Zorn would be at B'shoot but he is NOT. The
woman who books music for the festival had vaguely looked into Zorn's
availability early on, but nothing ever came of it.
The most Zorn-related music at Bumbershoot may be the Skerik's Smokestack
Lightnin' Improv a ganza, that Wayne Horvitz is playing in, but don't
forget that Lesli Dalaba plays in Jeff Greinke's group Land. Or maybe the
Bush Tetras, but they're probably playing in Portland too.
On the other hand, it doesn't look like Masada is playing in Portland, so
you may want to make plans to come up to Seattle November 16th.
(That goes for you too, of course, Patrice.)
Bests
Herb
Herb Levy
herb@eskimo.com
------------------------------
From: BIRD BRAIN <BIRD_BRAIN@wow.com>
Date: Sun, 1 Sep 1996 23:42:35 -0400
Subject: Masada Tour
Can anyone give me a list of tour dates for Masada? I finally get to hear Zorn
live when Masada comes to Boudler, Co on Nov. 17th. But I'd like to catch
some other shows if they play somewhere else in the Rocky Mtn region.
Kevin Kobielusz
Denver, CO
------------------------------
From: philz <zampino@panix.com>
Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 15:31:06 -0400
Subject: Re: frisco patton/zorn gig
> john shiurba <shiurba@sfo.com> wrote:
>there was a mostly unannounced
>reunion of the group Twins (zorn/ackley/chadbourne/kaiser) who last
>played together about 20 years ago. this was the best thing i've seen zorn
>do, in years. totally amazing improvisation covering the full dynamic
>spectrum from whispering acoustic guitar sounds to full on wailing saxes.
>it was a magic moment, seeing zorn & chadbourne reunited, not to mention
>zorn and kaiser on the same stage (there's no shortage of hostility between
>them!)
Can anyone fill me in on this?- I had no idea that Kaiser and Zorn are in
opposition. If anything I'd expect there to be a common ground between
them, both having worked so broadly in the electro-acoustic world, and both
being excellent improvisers. At least I'm glad to hear that their
animosity doesn't carry over to the stage.
philz
------------------------------
From: IOUaLive1@aol.com
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 01:13:38 -0400
Subject: Re: Masada Tour/Masada on NPR radio
I would like to add that I too would like to see a list of Masada tour dates.
And I just heard it come out of Branford's lips- this Wednesday NPR's "Jazz
Set" will feature an excerpt from a Masada concert!! This will be aired on
88.3 WBGO in Newark, I dont know if the schedule is the same for other
stations, but check it out!
------------------------------
From: scott mclemore <sam@frontier.wilpaterson.edu>
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 17:18:25 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: B. Previte, A. Fier, A. Parkins
FUnny, I just saw Previte's Late Nite Knit thing last night. He's doing a
thing every tues. wherein he and various happy-go-lucky knit guys play
Miles stuff from the Bitches Brew period. I've seen a really great night
of it once with Herb Robertson. But last night Cuong VU played and was
marvelous...Simply Marvelous! And He was dressed extra fancy!!!!! X
______________________________________________________________________________
Scott McLemore----------------------------------------------------------------
- ----------Drummer/Composer----------------------------------------------------
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------
From: scott mclemore <sam@frontier.wilpaterson.edu>
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 17:44:31 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: human feel
Well I'm very into Human Feel. They are: Andrew D'angelo-Alto/b.clarinet;
Chris Speed-tenor/clarinet; Kurt Rosenwinkle-guitar; Jim Black-drums.
As far as I know they all met in Boston while attending Berklee, but moved
to NYC a few years back. Gunther Schuller produced their first CD
"Scatter" which features a bass player:Joe Fitzgerald. They have 2 other
CDs out now, and are all enjoyable by me. Each one seems more focused
than the last. They seem to be the most bandy of all bands that exist in
NEw York. I think they all lived together until recently. They all do
other projects but HF seems to be a major thing for all of them.
Shit, I could be their press secretary!
______________________________________________________________________________
Scott McLemore----------------------------------------------------------------
- ----------Drummer/Composer----------------------------------------------------
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------
From: PQuig99164@aol.com
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 00:30:12 -0400
Subject: Masada in Philadelphia
Masada will be appearing at the International House, 3701 Chestnut St in
Philadelphia on November 3rd at 7:00 P.M. Tickets are $15 (with a $2 service
charge from Upstages (215) 893-1145 press 9 for operator).
It's being described as "out-there Klezmer music by avant-garde improv master
Zorn"
The last, and I think only, time Masada was in Phila was at the Khyber Pass
about three years ago. Marc Ribot on guitar. Great show, why hasn't this
version of the band ever been documented?
------------------------------
From: slawlor <slawlor@gwis.com>
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 01:14:42 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: naked city vocalist
Hi there. I was wondering if any of you guys know if the vocalist on
"Naked city" has any solo material out there and is it as wacky as his
performances on the "Naked City" album? If there is such material, can
you give me some titles and where I might be able to find them? Thanks
for the information.
scott K. Lawlor
3358 Prange Dr.
Cuyahoga Falls, OH. 44223
Phone, 330-922-4895
http://w3.gwis.com/~slawlor
------------------------------
From: daver14@ibm.net (Daver)
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 00:08:59 -0700
Subject: Re: naked city vocalist
>Hi there. I was wondering if any of you guys know if the vocalist on
>"Naked city" has any solo material out there and is it as wacky as his
>performances on the "Naked City" album? If there is such material, can
>you give me some titles and where I might be able to find them? Thanks
>for the information.
Hey.
Umm, yeah, his name is Yamatsuka (or Yamatanka? or??) Eye. His
band, the Boredoms, are, how to put this, REALLY FUCKIN' GREAT! Seriously,
the Boredoms live are quite amazing. Their "style", "sound" or whatever is
all over the map. Some very silly, some studio-noise, some bad disco, and a
lot of very good music, blended like a trashier-influenced Naked City
through the Japanese culture filter. May I humbly suggest Wow 2, a
live-in-the-studio album. It's an import, but if you can find it used, DO
NOT PASS IT UP!! Soul Discharge, on Shimmy Disc is pretty great, and Pop
Tatari, on Warner(?!?) is good too. A warning, they are firm beleivers in
Eno's studio-as-an-instrument idea.
There is an Eye/Zorn disc out on Tzadik, which I have heard once at
work, but it didn't exactly knock my socks off. Eye, I've been told, often
makes some extra money selling tapes of whatever he felt like screaming
into the mike that day. One of a kind items, as it were. This thought kept
popping into my head while listening to the Zorn/Eye CD. But maybe that's
just me.
Once your toes are in the water, good luck, your wallet will need
it. Eye has at least three other side projects besides the Boredoms and
Naked City (may I reccomend UFO Or Die - Cassettetape Superstar), and the
rest of the band likewise. Mostly imports and hard to find.
And while I'm here, might as well mention Eyvand Kang, DJ Olive and
William Hooker ripped some shit up. Hooker and Olive have been touring and
in Seattle were joined by Eyvand Kang, apparently never before having met
or played with Hooker. Hooker said "..who I've never met, but know in
spirit..." and that kinda summed it up.
And while I'm still here, I've heard the Sun City Girls (any other
SCG fans out there?) might be doing a gamelan orchestra show with members
of the Boredoms here in Seattle, and I wouldn't be suprised if Eyvand
showed up there as well. Not a show to be taken lightly.
Sorry if I got carried away, but it's the Boredoms, whaddya expect.
Dave Roos
W = F x D
...I'm goin' to work and this guy gets on the bus, early morning, plenty of
open seats, and sits right down next to this girl. Starts a conversation,
actin' friendly to the trapped girl and when in reponse to his "So, where
ya going to this morning, wanna go to my house?" she sez, "Thanks, but I'm
going to work," and he comes back with "Work = Force x Distance."
No surprise when she got off at the next stop.
------------------------------
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