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zorn-list Digest          Tuesday, 20 August 1996      Volume 02 : Number 011

In this issue:

    Masada - Bar Kokhba
    Re: Masada - Bar Kokhba
    Re: zorn-list Digest V2 #10
    Rockit Mail-Order in LA
    Re: Masada - Bar Kokhba
    Re: zorn-list Digest V2 #10
    Re: Christian Marclay on CD??
    Egg Radio
    Re: Egg Radio
    cynical
    Re: cynical
    Re: cynical
    Re: cynical
    Re: cynical
    DIW
    Re: cynical
    Re: cynical
    fan the flames
    Knitting Factory Dates of Interest
    Re: fan the flames
    Film Works
    frisco patton/zorn gig
    Re: fan the flames
    Re: Film Works
    Re: fan the flames
    Re: Film Works
    "Harass" with Derek Baily and Zorn

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From: [e-mail] (Andrew D. Boyko)
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 11:46:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Masada - Bar Kokhba

The dopes at Borders have done it again.  I just picked up the
2-disc Masada Chamber Ensembles disc, "Bar Kokhba", for $15.99,
a week before its release date.  Bless their cluelessness.
Check the Borders near you for a copy of your own, unless the
Borders near you is in Pentagon City, VA.

Sounds pretty darn good, so far.  Many of the the tracks are
on the Masada CDs, judging from the names I recognize.

Andrew Boyko  [e-mail]

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From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 12:34:51 -0700
Subject: Re: Masada - Bar Kokhba

On Wed, 14 Aug 1996 11:46:17 -0700 (PDT)  Andrew D. Boyko wrote:
>
> The dopes at Borders have done it again.  I just picked up the
> 2-disc Masada Chamber Ensembles disc, "Bar Kokhba", for $15.99,
> a week before its release date.  Bless their cluelessness.
> Check the Borders near you for a copy of your own, unless the
> Borders near you is in Pentagon City, VA.
>
> Sounds pretty darn good, so far.  Many of the the tracks are
> on the Masada CDs, judging from the names I recognize.

Which is the entry... 200 in the discography!

    Patrice.

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From: [e-mail]
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 17:33:51 -0400
Subject: Re: zorn-list Digest V2 #10

Speaking of Bobby Previte, just thought I'd mention that he was in town
(Boston @ Sculler's Jazz Club) with Jane Ira Bloom, Mark Dresser, and Julien
Priester last week.  INCREDIBLE!  Period!  He's one of the greatest drummers
I've ever seen live.  And of course the others are certainly no "Slouches"
either.  Interesting enough, He claimed when I was talking to him that his
music is really more "rock" than "Jazz."
Not sure if he meant his recent endeavors more than past projects or what.  I
don't own any of his solo stuff...YET.  His collaborations with E#/Carbon are
certainly more "rock" in my opinion, but I generally don't have big hang-ups
with needing to label and catagorize.  I gave that up around the time Sonic
(Cicconey) Youth covered Madonna.

Any opinions on the "Rock" or "Jazz" question?  Most importantly, which solo
disc do I start with?

Jonathan LaMaster

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From: [e-mail] (Patrick Carey)
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 17:17:33 -0500
Subject: Rockit Mail-Order in LA

Hi,

I was wondering if anyone out there who is familiar with a mail-order place
in the Los Angeles area called ROCKIT, that specializes in Japanese
imports, could email me some info on how to contact them ... i.e. a
phone/fax number, address, email address etc.  I called information for the
LA area (213, 310 & 818 area codes) and came up with two places with that
name, neither of which dealt with anything music related.

Any information would be much appreciated.

Thanks


- -Patrick



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From: Me <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 17:45:15 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re: Masada - Bar Kokhba

On Wed, 14 Aug 1996, Andrew D. Boyko wrote:

> The dopes at Borders have done it again.  I just picked up the
> 2-disc Masada Chamber Ensembles disc, "Bar Kokhba", for $15.99,
> a week before its release date.  Bless their cluelessness.
> Check the Borders near you for a copy of your own, unless the
> Borders near you is in Pentagon City, VA.

Hey now, it's not very nice to call someone helping you out a dope, now is
it? :)  Anyways, yes, I found said CD at my local Borders as well.  Also
picked up the new Anthony Coleman CD _Selfhaters_.

> Sounds pretty darn good, so far.  Many of the the tracks are
> on the Masada CDs, judging from the names I recognize.

Too early for me to offer up a review of either one yet, seeing as how
it has been a pretty healthy week for improv stuff (Ornette released two
albums as well), but what I've listened to on the Masada CD has been great
so far.  Small groups re-interpreting the songs.

Out 2 Lunch With Lunchmeat,

Paul
[e-mail]


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From: "Joseph Zitt" <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 23:52:10 +0000
Subject: Re: zorn-list Digest V2 #10

On 14 Aug 96 at 8:55, [e-mail] wrote:

> From: Steve Smith <[e-mail]>
>
> P.S.  Haven't had a chance to update the Tzadik website to reflect this, but
> the Bible Launcher disc scheduled for August 20 has been indefinitely
> postponed, for remixing and rerecording.  No copies were shipped out, so the
> original version is not likely to become an ultra-rare variant collectable
> available for obscene prices anytime in the future.

Is this different from the Bible Launcher disc that showed up
yesterday at Borders here? (I was tempted to get it, but narrowed
down to the Masada double-disc (was that supposed to be at the
single-disc price at which I got it?) and the Shelley Hirsch "O
Little Town of East New York", both of which were there for the first
time, as was Ikue Mori's new one.)

(I'd be listening to the Masada now, but having heard that David
Tudor passed away Tuesday, I'm listening to his Neural Synthesis.)
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From: scott mclemore <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 12:39:17 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Christian Marclay on CD??

Hey, I have one piece by Marclay on a live compilation that Einstein
Records put out.  It's a bunch of stuff recorded at the Roulet loft.

______________________________________________________________________________
Scott McLemore----------------------------------------------------------------
- ----------Drummer/Composer----------------------------------------------------
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

On Sun, 11 Aug 1996, Herb Levy wrote:

> >> Is there a collected works of Christian Maclay recording in existence or in
> >> the works?  If not, I would at least be interested in a rundown of his
> >  ^^^^^^^^^
> >
> >No. I am not even sure if I know of any living composer with such collected
> >works :-).
>
> This'd probably be impossible for improvisors, but a few people who "only"
> compose come pretty close.
>
> One example that comes to mind is Conlon Nancarrow, an American expatriate
> composer living in Mexico City, who primarily writes for player pianos.
> All but his last 3 or 4 pieces (a little more than half an hour) are
> available on CD.
>
>
> Herb Levy
> [e-mail]
>
>
>

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From: [e-mail] (Les Rhoda)
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 20:52:19 -0400
Subject: Egg Radio

I've been blissed out on Frisell's "Quartet" for a while now, and I
have a question...

The theme to "Egg Radio" at once seemed mighty familiar... like a TV
show theme from the early 80's or something... then I realized the
melody is from "Wave" by A.C. Jobim. Or is it?

Wondering,
Les

- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
Les Rhoda                        "If you can't lick 'em, stick 'em on
 533 Clark Island Rd.                    with a big piece of tape"
Clark Island, Me. 04859
    http://inferno.asap.um.maine.edu/emp/les
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LOOKING FOR ZORN, FRISELL, NEGATIVLAND, MMW etc.
and all those funky lo-fi tapes you did in your basement....
- ---------------------------------------------------------------------


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From: [e-mail] (Ashley Capps)
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 13:41:08 -0400
Subject: Re: Egg Radio

>I've been blissed out on Frisell's "Quartet" for a while now, and I
>have a question...
>
>The theme to "Egg Radio" at once seemed mighty familiar... like a TV
>show theme from the early 80's or something... then I realized the
>melody is from "Wave" by A.C. Jobim. Or is it?

I'm not sure, but it seems to me based on an old schlocky tune which starts
with the line "I'm gonna love you for a thousand years. .  ."

Ashley



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From: "M.Ho" <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 96 15:38:26 EDT
Subject: cynical

Does anyone have Zorn's Cynical Hysterie Hour?  Is it in print or
will it ever be (re)released?

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From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 17 Aug 1996 14:16:16 -0700
Subject: Re: cynical

On Fri, 16 Aug 96 15:38:26 EDT  "M.Ho" wrote:
>
> Does anyone have Zorn's Cynical Hysterie Hour?  Is it in print or
> will it ever be (re)released?

This is one of Zorn's hardest to find records! Because of CBS/Sony pathetic
job (they released a record that they did not even try to distribute outside
Japan), Zorn tried to get the rights back to him. He wrote them but never
got an answer (he event tried to pay to get the rights back to him!). Net
result: unlikely to see it in the near future :-(.

    Patrice.


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From: [e-mail] (Jeff Spirer)
Date: Sat, 17 Aug 1996 15:53:11 -0700
Subject: Re: cynical

At 2:16 PM 8/17/96, Patrice L. Roussel wrote:

>This is one of Zorn's hardest to find records! Because of CBS/Sony pathetic
>job (they released a record that they did not even try to distribute outside
>Japan), Zorn tried to get the rights back to him. He wrote them but never
>got an answer (he event tried to pay to get the rights back to him!). Net
>result: unlikely to see it in the near future :-(.

I would only add that this is exactly what Sony did to Buckethead's _Giant
Robot_ CD.

Jeff
[e-mail]
http://www.hyperreal.com/axiom/



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From: [e-mail]
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 20:02:17 -0400
Subject: Re: cynical

Does ANYBODY have a copy of the Cynical laserdisc?  Or even a label and
catalog number so I can hunt it down..

[e-mail]

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From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 09:29:02 -0700
Subject: Re: cynical

On Sun, 18 Aug 1996 20:02:17 -0400  [e-mail] wrote:
>
> Does ANYBODY have a copy of the Cynical laserdisc?  Or even a label and
> catalog number so I can hunt it down..

- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

080 - CYNICAL HYSTERIE HOUR: John Zorn

  Music for a Japanese children's cartoon show.

    1989 - CBS/Sony (Japan), 24DH 5291 (CD)

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081 - CYNICAL HYSTERIE HOUR - TRIP COASTER: John Zorn

    1989 - CBS/Sony (Japan), 10EH 3327 (3" CD)

  See CYNICAL HYSTERIE HOUR (1989) for further references.

- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Good luck to get it :-).

    Patrice.

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From: "M.Ho" <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 96 14:33:52 EDT
Subject: DIW

Does DIW have a catalog or a website?  Also someone mentioned a
while back that DOugie Bowne was to have a trio album out on DIW.
Any release date?

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From: [e-mail]
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 17:13:12 -0400
Subject: Re: cynical

In a message dated 96-08-19 12:29:24 EDT, [e-mail] (Patrice
L. Roussel) writes:

> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

> --
>
>  080 - CYNICAL HYSTERIE HOUR: John Zorn
>
>    Music for a Japanese children's cartoon show.
>
>      1989 - CBS/Sony (Japan), 24DH 5291 (CD)
>
>

- -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -
>
>  081 - CYNICAL HYSTERIE HOUR - TRIP COASTER: John Zorn
>
>      1989 - CBS/Sony (Japan), 10EH 3327 (3" CD)
>
>    See CYNICAL HYSTERIE HOUR (1989) for further references.
>
>

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So does the laserdisc NOT EXIST??  These listings are for a regular and a 3"
cd, correct?  I'd really like to see the visuals that go along with the
music.

[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Jeff Spirer)
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 15:07:54 -0700
Subject: Re: cynical

At 2:13 PM 8/19/96, [e-mail] wrote:

>>  080 - CYNICAL HYSTERIE HOUR: John Zorn

>>
>>  081 - CYNICAL HYSTERIE HOUR - TRIP COASTER: John Zorn

>I'd really like to see the visuals that go along with the
>music.

I have both of these.  If someone has a web page to put them on, I will
scan them and send them to the right place.


Jeff
[e-mail]
http://www.hyperreal.com/axiom/



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From: Mark Corroto <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 20:52:26 -0500
Subject: fan the flames

Just got a copy of new Derek Bailey
Avant 060  called " guitar, drums , 'n' bass"

it's derek and drum programmed by DJ Ninj

I gotta say, Derek has been very creative lately with the Laswell, Tony
Williams, "Harass" and Ruins disk.

Only 39:00 minutes of music though

Mark Corroto
SoS Jazz

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From: Steve Smith <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 10:58:47 -0700
Subject: Knitting Factory Dates of Interest

Greetings, gang.

While coasting around the Knitting Factory site today, I came upon a few dates germane
to a couple of recent threads:

Oct. 8 - Marty Ehrlich and Tim Berne, Bobby Previte's Weather Clear, Track Fast (Main
Space)
Oct. 12 - Hank Roberts (AlterKnit)
Oct. 18-19 - Masada Chamber Ensemble - Bar Kokhba (Main Space)

Lots of advance warning for you to schedule your New York vacation!

Cheers...
- --
=======================================================================
Steve Smith <[e-mail]>
Manager Publicity & Promotion, KOCH International L.P.
2 Tri-Harbor Court, Port Washington, NY 11050

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From: Me <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 10:02:52 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re: fan the flames

On Mon, 19 Aug 1996, Mark Corroto wrote:

> Just got a copy of new Derek Bailey
> Avant 060  called " guitar, drums , 'n' bass"
>
> it's derek and drum programmed by DJ Ninj
>
> I gotta say, Derek has been very creative lately with the Laswell, Tony
> Williams, "Harass" and Ruins disk.

Where did you pick this one up?  I called Cadence this morning to see if
they had it (I've been waiting for this one for awhile now) and they said
they didn't have it in stock yet.

Thanks,

Paul
[e-mail]


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From: "J.Ross" <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 11:25:40 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Film Works

Hey Hey everyone,
    I've heard a lot about the Film Works cd's and am interested
in buying, but I live in a sort of back woods place...Most of the
record stores look at you funny when you ask if they have Zorn or
anything like that...So to buy anything cool around here, you have to
special order it...What would be the recommend Film Works
CD to purchace?

thanks
J-


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From: [e-mail] (david m rothbaum)
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 10:38:15 -0700
Subject: frisco patton/zorn gig

did anyone go?  if so id be interested in hearing a reveiw of the gig.

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From: Torsten Nielsen <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 20:11:53 +0200 (METDST)
Subject: Re: fan the flames

On Mon, 19 Aug 1996, Mark Corroto wrote:

> Just got a copy of new Derek Bailey
> Avant 060  called " guitar, drums , 'n' bass"
>
> it's derek and drum programmed by DJ Ninj

I thought it was called "Jungle" It is Bailey's jungle techno album, right?


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From: Steve Smith <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 14:28:02 -0700
Subject: Re: Film Works

J.Ross wrote:
>
> Hey Hey everyone,
>         I've heard a lot about the Film Works cd's and am interested
> in buying, but I live in a sort of back woods place...Most of the
> record stores look at you funny when you ask if they have Zorn or
> anything like that...So to buy anything cool around here, you have to
> special order it...What would be the recommend Film Works
> CD to purchace?
>
> thanks
> J-

Both are terrific, but only the first volume actually has Zorn playing on
it, so that gives it the edge for me.  Plus you'll be able to decide from
that one whether you want to acquire more.

Enjoy!
Steve
- --
=======================================================================
Manager Publicity & Promotion, KOCH International L.P.
2 Tri-Harbor Court, Port Washington, NY 11050
<[e-mail]>

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From: Mark Corroto <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 15:35:18 -0500
Subject: Re: fan the flames

Torsten Nielsen wrote:
>
> On Mon, 19 Aug 1996, Mark Corroto wrote:
>
> > Just got a copy of new Derek Bailey
> > Avant 060  called " guitar, drums , 'n' bass"
> >
> > it's derek and drum programmed by DJ Ninj
>
> I thought it was called "Jungle" It is Bailey's jungle techno album, right?

Not really a jungle record
although there are remixes, Bailey is Bailey
Techno always seems so flat, contrived, un-human
Derek's guitar work over programmed drums is quite intelligent

Purists will scoff, but i really liked Arcana with Laswell and Williams
and with the DJ, new listeners will get hooked by the beats
and eventually LISTEN to the guitar

Mark

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From: "Yeah-shure, Nah...er...ve'-so'n" <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 15:58:15 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Film Works

On Tue, 20 Aug 1996, J.Ross wrote:

> Hey Hey everyone,
>     I've heard a lot about the Film Works cd's and am interested
> in buying, but I live in a sort of back woods place...Most of the
> record stores look at you funny when you ask if they have Zorn or
> anything like that...So to buy anything cool around here, you have to
> special order it...What would be the recommend Film Works
> CD to purchace?
>
> thanks
> J-
>
>

I'd buy the first one first, since it's longer, has zorn playing on it,
has more variety, and is more in line with zorn's jump-cut insanity.  The
second one is atmospheric, but more homogeneous all the way through and
so, to me, not as crazy and fun as the first one.

The third one, of which i've only heard tell in song and ledgend, has
Masada on the first twelve tracks, i think.  That sounds very cool.

- -jascha

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From: "Yeah-shure, Nah...er...ve'-so'n" <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 15:59:13 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: "Harass" with Derek Baily and Zorn

What is this album like?

- -jascha



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