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zorn-list Digest           Thursday, 4 July 1996       Volume 02 : Number 002

In this issue:

    tzadik website
    Dick-Heads
    "tzadik" meaning
    Problems?
    Re: "tzadik" meaning
    Sharrock
    "tzadik" pronounciation
    BrasilZorn em Portugues
    Re: BrasilZorn em Portugues
    Re: "tzadik" pronounciation
    Re: "tzadik" meaning
    Re: Sharrock
    Re: Tzadik or acappella
    NY Central Park concert
    Re: NY Central Park concert
    Masada in the park
    Zorn in the Park
    Brazilian Scores
    No Takers Yet
    What Shall I Do On Vacation
    masada gig
    Buckethead live at the Wetlands
    Elliot Sharp/Zeena Parkins at the Middle East down on 7/6
    Who All is goonna be in Central Park???
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From: john shiurba <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 10:55:32 +0000
Subject: tzadik website

this should be of interest to the list (fwd from micc):

> Hello everyone.  Just wanted you to know that, at long last, the complete
> Tzadik listings on the Koch website have been updated.  They are now current
> through the nine releases coming in August 1996 (including the two-CD
> Chamber Masada recording "Bar Kokhba"), plus mentions of releases even
> further off (Naked City and Painkiller reissues, more film music) and lots
> of useful and amusing links.  If you're interested, go, go, go.  And I
> promise it'll get more and more refined as I learn more about programming.
>
...
> By the way, overzealous little dope that I am, I forgot to mention that the
> url for the Tzadik part of the Koch website is
> http://kochint.com/tzadik.html  ---
> sorry about that.

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http://www.sfo.com/~shiurba

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From: [e-mail] (Ray Peck)
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 15:09:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Dick-Heads

>Tshirt that said "I'm a dickhead".  How's that for a jazz club?

This is most likely a Dick Dale shirt.  This guy almost certainly came
to see Bill.


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From: [e-mail]
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 19:03:47 -0400
Subject: "tzadik" meaning

Maybe this is old news but the Joy of Yiddish says tzaddik (spelled with two
d's) means "a most righteous man" though the second definition may be more
appropriate in this context, "a holy man; a man of surpassing virtue and
(possibly) supernatural powers."

Lang Thompson
http://members.aol.com/wlt4/index.htm

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From: [e-mail]
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 19:15:31 -0400
Subject: Problems?

I've made several posts over the past couple of weeks that don't seem to show
up on the list.  Is this an AOL problem, something with the Zorn list or just
my perception?

Lang Thompson

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From: "Allen Huotari" <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 96 09:47:39 PST
Subject: Re: "tzadik" meaning

     it has been explained to me (by Judeo-Christian scholars) that the
     core of the word "tzadik" is "righteous" and has various implications

     the example that was given to me is that an auto mechanic upon finely
     tuning a car could pronounce that beautiful purring hum as "tzadik"
     (i.e., righteous...perhaps this is similar to using the word
     "righteous" in a so-called "hip" or "slang" fashion?)

     therefore objects and/or individuals could be described as possessing
     the quality of or actually being innately "tzadik"

     imho, this is one of the best possible names for a recording label

______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Subject: "tzadik" meaning
Author:  [e-mail] at smtpgate
Date:    6/19/96 4:08 PM


Maybe this is old news but the Joy of Yiddish says tzaddik (spelled with two
d's) means "a most righteous man" though the second definition may be more
appropriate in this context, "a holy man; a man of surpassing virtue and
(possibly) supernatural powers."

Lang Thompson
http://members.aol.com/wlt4/index.htm


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From: [e-mail] (Sean Terwilliger )
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 10:05:47 -0700
Subject: Sharrock

Has anyone heard the new Sharrock on enemy? Is it a best of? or a remix
album???

- -Seam

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From: "Allen Huotari" <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 96 12:30:47 PST
Subject: "tzadik" pronounciation


>>>>>>imho, this is one of the best possible names for a recording label

>>>agreed!  but how do you pronounce it?

roughly "tzah-deek" with an accent on the second syllable and a soft "t" at the
beginning

or so I'm told (by aforementioned scholars)

ready to stand corrected if anyone out there can comment authoritatively







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From: Ivoboll Eb <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 20:06:37 +0300
Subject: BrasilZorn em Portugues

   Da=ED galera do Zorn list:
=20
Alguem fala portugues por a=ED,escrevam.
  Eu toco sax, e gostaria de saber se alguem pode me dizer onde=20
  encontrar partituras do Mestre Zorn.

  Ivoboll Eb.=20
 =20


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From: "Patrice L. Roussel" <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 16:53:36 -0700
Subject: Re: BrasilZorn em Portugues

On Thu, 20 Jun 1996 20:06:37 +0300  Ivoboll Eb wrote:
>
>    Da=ED galera do Zorn list:
> =20
> Alguem fala portugues por a=ED,escrevam.
>   Eu toco sax, e gostaria de saber se alguem pode me dizer onde=20
>   encontrar partituras do Mestre Zorn.
>
>   Ivoboll Eb.=20

In English, please.

    Patrice.

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From: [e-mail] (Eylon Israeli)
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 03:19:00 +0300
Subject: Re: "tzadik" pronounciation

At 12:30 PM 6/20/96 PST, Allen Huotari wrote:
>
>>>>>>>imho, this is one of the best possible names for a recording label
>
>>>>agreed!  but how do you pronounce it?
>
>roughly "tzah-deek" with an accent on the second syllable and a soft "t" at
the
>beginning
>
>or so I'm told (by aforementioned scholars)
>
>ready to stand corrected if anyone out there can comment authoritatively
>

well, no soft "t" there. The TZ should be pronounced (like the hebrew letter
"Tzadi")
like in the infamous "Tze-Tze fly".




[e-mail]

The Morpheus Equation: Start + Middle + End = Sand


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From: [e-mail] (Eylon Israeli)
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 03:18:49 +0300
Subject: Re: "tzadik" meaning

At 09:47 AM 6/20/96 PST, Allen Huotari wrote:
>     it has been explained to me (by Judeo-Christian scholars) that the
>     core of the word "tzadik" is "righteous" and has various implications
>

ok, this is Israel calling.

Tzadik comes from the "Tzedek" which is simply "Justice" (althought 'simply'
is a hard thing to say regarding such an old language...)

"Tzadik" is not simply righteous but has more religious and good human-relation
perfections... sort of.   Anyway, Tzadik's logo is the hebrew letter "Tzadi"
which is called in general lingo "Tzadik" (Don't ask me why, it's just the
way we speak here).

I guess it also has some Kabbahlistik conotations as well but not many can
answer that.



[e-mail]

The Morpheus Equation: Start + Middle + End = Sand


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From: Christopher Hamilton <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 06:30:25 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Sharrock

On Thu, 20 Jun 1996, Sean Terwilliger wrote:

> Has anyone heard the new Sharrock on enemy? Is it a best of? or a remix
> album???
>
> -Seam


It's a best-of.  I believe the tracks have been remastered, but there's
no radical remixing to my ears.  It's very nicely done for what it is.

cjh

Chris Hamilton
Dept. of Philosophy
University of Pittsburgh
USA


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From: Barry Gilbert <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 08:06:11 -0500
Subject: Re: Tzadik or acappella

- -- [ From: Barry Gilbert * EMC.Ver #2.3 ] --

Does Theo Bleckmann  have any recordings?  Do you?

Also, are you sure you want to give us Shelley Hirsch's home phone number?

In response to Nicholas Vassiliou's suggestion about Mike Patton, I just
bought it based on your recommendation.  I like the experimental nature,
his playfulness.  Having racks of digital delays and signal processors, his
techniques aren't so much of a mystery to me. What IS a mystery to me is
how he didn't get kicked out of all those hotel rooms where the pieces were
recorded.

I also woudn't call this recording 'acapella' as the dsp equipment could be
called an instrument.

Barry Gilbert
Boulder, CO
- -------- REPLY, Original message follows --------

Theo Bleckmann is an interesting and talented vocalist. He plays with
Meredith Monk and Kirk Nurock and Mark Dresser and Ben Monder and me among
others. You can reach him at [phone].

Then of course there's Shelley Hirsch at [phone].



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From: James A Sellers <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 20:09:49 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: NY Central Park concert

Could somebody please offer me information about Praxis performing
in central park on july 13?

What is the lineup of musicians?
Where and when is the show to be played?
How can I purchase tickets?

I would appreciate any help you can offer. Seeing buckethead live
(and hopefully page hamilton as well) would be incredible.

thanks!

- -jim

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From: [e-mail] (Jeff Spirer)
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 07:17:22 -0700
Subject: Re: NY Central Park concert

At 5:09 PM 6/23/96, James A Sellers wrote:
>Could somebody please offer me information about Praxis performing
>in central park on july 13?
>
>What is the lineup of musicians?

Praxis is Bill, Bucket, Brain and DXT.

Sola, Pheeroan akLaff, Last Poets, and Rob Swift and X-Men.

Invisible Scratch Pickles were scratched from the lineup due to travel issues.

>Where and when is the show to be played?

I will have exact details later this week.  It is where the free shows
usually are.

>How can I purchase tickets?

You can send me a check for $100 and I will send you a beautiful
hand-painted ticket, or you can just show up early and get in for free.
>
>I would appreciate any help you can offer. Seeing buckethead live
>(and hopefully page hamilton as well) would be incredible.

Page Hamilton is not on the bill.


Jeff
[e-mail]
http://www.hyperreal.com/axiom/



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From: "Yeah-shure, Nah...er...ve'-so'n" <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 12:48:22 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Masada in the park

Although i have no real way of getting to central park on july 6th, i'm
going to try to go anyway to see the summerstage masada gig... could
someone please tell me some more info, like when and where in the park
this phenomenon is to be found?

Does anyone know if masada are doing any more gigs at the knit soon??
There's no listing on the hjomepage, but i think the list only goes up to
july anyway.  I'd much rather see them there than in the park.

- -jascha

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From: [e-mail] (m. rizzi)
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 11:00:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Zorn in the Park

    I grabbed this from a posting in alt.music.alternative.female,
    can't vouch for veracity...

    "Yoko is playing in Central Park in NYC on July 6th --
     free show w/John Zorn and Cibo Matto."


    mike 'wishing his trip to NYC was earlier in July'

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                      http://www.meer.net/~browbeat/
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From: Ivoboll <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 12:30:16 +0300
Subject: Brazilian Scores

Hello!
=20
I'm a brazilian saxophonist and i'm looking for John Zorn scores. Does
anybody know any ftp or www site? If you have it and can send as an
attachment, I can looking for some brazilian music scores to send you.

Ivoboll.
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From: [e-mail] (m. rizzi)
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 17:36:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: No Takers Yet

    No volunteers to watch the zorn-list
    operation while I'm on vacation all
    summer?

    It's okay by me, just keep in mind
    non-automated requests will have to
    wait until my return.

    mike rizzi
    owner zorn-list
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From: Me <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 21:26:27 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: What Shall I Do On Vacation

     First, I feel I have to apologize for the crosspost (although it's an
interesting combination, I must say).  However, the bulk of the message
would be the same no matter what list I sent it to, so I don't think it's
too big a deal.  Just keep in mind that if you reply to my message,
please delete the names of the other lists in the header you dont
subscribe to or else your mail will likely bounce back.

     Anyways, next week I'll be going to New York City.  I'll be there
from the morning of the 3rd until the evening of the 7th.  My agenda is
pretty loose.  So far all I know is that I'll be seeing George Clinton
and the P-Funk All-Stars on both the 4th and the 5th, and I'll be going
back to Central Park the next day to catch Masada (my 1st time ever
seeing John Zorn Live!).  The rest of the time is pretty flexible.  I'd
like to hear any suggestions on what I should do to amuse myself, clubs,
record stores, guided tours of Greenpoint Studios (just kidding, Jeff!),
etc.  Either send the replies directly to me, or, if they contain
information that is related to the list, post 'em for all to see.  Two
questions that I hope someone could answer for me are:

1) Anyone know what time Masada/Cibo Matto/Ono starts on the 6th.

2) Here in Chicago we have a weekly paper called the Reader that is like
a comprehensive guide to all the goings on in the city (movies, concerts,
etc.)  Does New York have something like this?

Thanks in advance and apologies again for the cross-posting.

Out 2 lunch with lunchmeat (and off 2 NYC soon),

Paul
[e-mail]
    /---\    ATTENTION ALL FUNKATEERS, CLONES, AND P-FUNK PERSONNEL!
   /O _ O\   The Mothership is now boarding for a return trip back to Earth
  /__| |__\  ETA : July 4th, 1996 at 6:00 PM (Earth Time)
 /___|_|___\ Your pilot on this trip : Dr. Funkenstein
   |     |   In-filght movie : Close Encounters Of The Funk Kind


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From: "Yeah-shure, Nah...er...ve'-so'n" <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 13:35:27 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: masada gig

okay...i know that ono, cibo matto and masada are all playing on the 6th,
so here's a silly question: they're each playing their *own* set, right?
I'm assuming they are, but the idea just struck me that maybe there was
some sort of bizzare collaboration lurking in the program somewhere. Eek!

Also, for those of you who have seen concerts in central park before: how
are they?  Can you see/hear anything if you don't happen to be in the
front row?

- -jascha

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From: [e-mail]
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 16:30:13 -0400
Subject: Buckethead live at the Wetlands

Hello everyone,
Just thought I'd let people know that Buckethead will be playing at the
Wetlands in NYC on July 15th.  It's billed as Buckethead, Brain and friends.
 If anyone knows who else might be playing with them, let us know!

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From: Mason Wendell <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 02 Jul 1996 07:25:15 -0400
Subject: Elliot Sharp/Zeena Parkins at the Middle East down on 7/6

Hello to all Zorn-listers and Boss-improv-listers!

Elliot Sharp and Zeena Parkins (together known as "Psycho-acoustic")
will be making the great journey from NYC to Boston on July 6 for a rare
appearance at the Middle East downstairs. E# is a multi-insrumentalist,
playing anything from doubleneck guitar/bass, to clarinet, to
instruments that he makes himself. Zeena Parkins plays electric harp (an
instrument which she designed)and to paraphrase Ellliot, "It's not just
the sound of the electric harp, it's the sound of Zeena's electric
harp." As Psycho-acoustic they have toured Eupope and Japan but this is
their first appearance in the Boston area.

My group Prelapse will also be playing this show. We'll be doing a set
of pieces that John Zorn wrote for Naked City. yes, we are Zorn-approved
#;-).  Our set will consist of material that NC never played or
recorded. Our CD on Avant will be in stores sometime in the coming
months.

Also on the bill will be Debris, who I'm sure are not unknown to folks
on the Boss-improv list. Suffice to say that dull sounds are not in
their vocabulary.

And finally, their will be Saturnalia, making their first appearance
ever. I heard some tracks of their's last night, and I can't tell you
what to expect on Saturday. That's a compliment.

So come on down to hear some great music.
- --
**************************************************************
*                       Mason Wendell                        *
*                     bassist,composer                       *
*Prelapse- Naked City's music and new music for loud ensemble*
**************************************************************

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From: RichardLadew <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 01:02:01 -0400
Subject: Who All is goonna be in Central Park???

Dear fellow Zorn enthusiasts:

I wanted to know how many of us are going to the Masada July 6 show.  I
thought it might be cool for some or all of us to meet face to face before
or after the show.  (Unless it spoils some ultra-cool anonymous comraderie
which I doubt).  I live in New Hampshire, and from reading the list, it
appears that others are also traveling a far distance to check out this
event.  So how 'bout it?  should we come up with some kind of a meeting
plan, or am I just being stupid?
Any feedback would be welcome.

Much Respect,

Rich Ladew
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (m. rizzi)
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 14:41:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: MONTHLY ZORN-LIST INFO PACK (save)

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