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From: [e-mail] (Craig Hull)
Subject: (yello) re: PropellerHeads
Date: 02 Nov 1999 13:25:36 +1000


Shane wrote:
>The PropellerHeads are definitly a goodtime.[snip]
>Definitly worth a listen!!! If anyone one this list hasn't, do. Like Yello,
>Like Heads....

When I first heard them, I was a bit disappointed actually. They have grown
on me a little since then, but they are not up the the standard of Yello
yet, IMHO. Perhaps they will improve with time. I just don't think their
music has the character or personality that Boris and Dieter can generate.
Its a pretty tough comparison though.

Craig.




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From: [e-mail] (Craig Hull)
Subject: (yello) The long wait down under
Date: 02 Nov 1999 18:17:06 +1000


Hello friends,

just wanted to know how any of the other Aussies are going trying to get
their hands on the new music.

Has anyone had any luck at a record store?

I placed an order this morning for the Squeeze Please single. Should be
here in a couple of weeks, but I am never too sure whether or not to trust
them. This was at HMV here in Brisbane by the way. They didn't have Motion
Picture on their list yet, but if they manage to get the single in, they
should eventually be able to get the full cd in.

Rocking Horse Records in the city didn't know anything about it. (But I did
manage to pick up Stellar Supreme, by Cosmic Baby, which I had been
searching for for 3 years, so the trip wasn't wasted. Great album).

Regards,
Craig.




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From: "Simon McBurney" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) The long wait down under
Date: 03 Nov 1999 07:27:49 +1000


Hiya Craig.

I haven't tried myself yet, but "Rockaway Records" at Paddington (107
Latrobe Tce) may be of some help. I've used them in the past, and they've
seemed to come through with the good most of the time.
Let me know if you have any luck.

Your fellow Australian Brisbanite (that is I live is Brisbane as well.
(Arana Hills Actually)
Simon McBurney



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From: "Juno ." <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) Business Abbreviations
Date: 02 Nov 1999 23:30:25 GMT


For a long time, I've seen little extensions on the end of record company
names on the back of my favorite CD's :

(ex: London Records "Ltd."; "Inc." ; etc.)

I know where most of these are from, but can someone tell me what the
follwing extensions actually mean ? :

"GmBh" (Germany)

"Pty." (Australia ?)

"Pte." (Asia ?)

"NV" (Belgium ?)

"BV" (Netherlands ?)

"KK" (Japan)

"S.A." (France ?)

"Srl" (Italy)

I was just curious, as this is something that has been puzzling me for a
long time. :-)

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From: [e-mail] (Craig Hull)
Subject: (yello) Re: The long wait down under
Date: 03 Nov 1999 13:08:12 +1000


Shaun wrote:
>anyway; i orded squeeze from a UK site; and will probably enmd up doing the
>same for the album when i got some dosh

I don't have a credit card, which makes ordering over the net more difficult.

>As with the last 2 albums; i dont expect to see anying of them out here

Pocket Universe has been around in a few stores. Haven't seen anything of
the remix cd though.

Craig.




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From: Sheldon Stern <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) Trade
Date: 02 Nov 1999 19:52:12 -0800


Would anyone like to trade for a 3x12'' On Track?

I am looking for :
The Original Swiss IT Splash 12''


Please email me privately if interested.

Thanks

Sheldon

Ps. I may settle for the Race, & Goldrush cdvideos



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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?VIALLE_Gr=E9gory?= <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (yello) Business Abbreviations
Date: 03 Nov 1999 06:24:29 +0100


>
> "S.A." (France ?)
>
> "Srl" (Italy)
>
> I was just curious, as this is something that has been puzzling me for =
a
> long time. :-)

S(oci=E9t=E9) A(nonyme) or S(oci=E9t=E9) A(nonyme) =E0 R(esponsabilit=E9)=
 L(imit=E9e) -
S.A. or S.A.R.L. in France





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From: "Shaun Turner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Fw: (yello) Business Abbreviations
Date: 03 Nov 1999 21:42:13 +1100



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>
> "Pty." (Australia ?)

yes; usualy associated with  Ltd ie Sony Music Pty Ltd

It's all to do with company registration laws





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From: "Franz Gall" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) Fw: YELLO-Dieter Meier bei Harald Schmidt
Date: 03 Nov 1999 15:00:45 +0100


Hi,
just received this message below. It says, that Dieter Meier will be on
German TV today night at the Harald-Schmidt-Show. This show is an almost
perfect copy of the Dave-Letterman-Show and very well known in Germany. I
will send a report tomorrow. I assume this message comes from my
subscription to a yello related news letter at mercury records.
Cheers
Franz
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Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 1999 2:49 PM


> Hallo Yello-Fans,
>
> hier ein brandaktueller YELLO-Newsflash: Dieter Meier wird am Mittwoch,
dem
> 3.11.99, bei der Harald Schmidt-Show zu Gast sein. Zu sehen ist das Ganze
> auf SAT1, Beginn: 23:15!!
>
> Euer Yello Webteam
> www.mercuryrecords.de
> www.yello.ch
>
>



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From: Georg Plank <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) RE: Business Abbreviations
Date: 03 Nov 1999 08:21:18 +0100


> "GmBh" (Germany)

is written G.m.b.H. or Ges.m.b.H. and means:
"Gesellschaft mit beschr=E4nkter Haftung"

As far as I know, this is a sort of company that
has a special agreement with the community.
So if the company closes the government has
only limited access to the private investors of the former company.
This means that the investor looses the money he put into the company
when it is closed, but the community or the government has no access
to his private money.

The same for all the other comanies (ltd. srl. sra. and so on...)

Yours,
Georg Plank G.m.b.H.





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From: Antti Koivum{ki <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) I have it!
Date: 04 Nov 1999 14:36:15 +0200 (EET)


Hello all!

I have Motion Picture. And it is a great album. I just love it.

Very cool, very nice. Very Yello. Better than Pocket Universe. Probably
one of the best Yello albums ever. Have to listen to it a couple more
times just to make sure, though.

Antti.

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From: "Franz Gall" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) Dieter Meier at Harald Schmidt Show on German TV
Date: 04 Nov 1999 13:49:00 +0100


Hi,
I watched the Harald Schmidt Show on German TV SAT1 yesterday evening.
Dieter Meier appeared as a guest. He talked with Harald for about 5 minutes.
Dieter appeared very relaxed and self-assured. Harald Schmidt tried to do
jokes about the Swiss tardiness, but Dieter did not follow this jokes.
Example: when they came to Dieter's daughter's favourite music style techno,
Harald said: Techno goes like boom-boom-boom-boom-boom, in Switzerland it's
more like booom     -    booom     -    booom     -    booom

- Dieter gave a short review of his activities: 1st single was 'cry for
fame' on Peripheric Perfume
- Appeared in Swiss magazine 'Life & Style'; Harald showed two pages with
four homes of Dieter; Dieter said, that he is not the owner of all 4 homes;
he considers them as garages for his projects
- Dieter is still working on movie now named 'lightmaker'. Funny thing is,
that as the production lasts over 10 years now, the actors also get older;
now he is creating the soundtrack for the movie
- Dieter is the father of 4 childresn, the eldest one is a 15 year old
daughter. She likes Techno
- When he started with yello, they thought of beeing 'verwurzelte
provinzielle Dilletanten'. [Maybe somebody has an idea how to translate
this]. They never had plans to become famous or even trendsetters for music.

I did some screenshots from my TV, the quality is not so good, but I think,
you can get an impression. Please check out
http://franzgall.tripod.com/dieter_meier_at_harald_schmidt.htm

Cheers
Franz



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: RE: (yello) Dieter Meier at Harald Schmidt Show on German TV
Date: 04 Nov 1999 14:01:57 +0100


Hi !

Thanks for making the intervju as well as the screenshots available for us.
I think that 'verwurzelte provinzielle Dilletanten' should be something like
"Deeply Rooted provincial Dilettants" or maybe amatuers instead of
dilettants.

Kindest regards
:-)
Eric


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From: "Per-Stian Vatne" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) 38 in Norway
Date: 04 Nov 1999 20:59:12 +0100



Yello's "Motion Picture" is this weeks 38th best selling record in Norway(!)
on the official chart (http://www.vg.no/rampelys/musikk/lista/).

How is Yello doing in other countries? Anyone better? :)

Regards,
Per-Stian



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From: "Shaun Turner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) Motion Picture on CD Universe
Date: 05 Nov 1999 17:17:05 +1100


Got this in the mail today; Figured people would be interested

Shaun


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Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 4:58 PM



 Dear Shaun,

 We thought you'd be interested to know that the new CD Motion Picture by
 Yello will be available 11/9/99.

 We have found that many customers like to pre-order upcoming releases by
 their favorite artists.  At CD Universe, we make it easy.  Most new items
 are released on Tuesday.  As long as you place your pre-order by 2 p.m. EDT
 (18:00 GMT) on the Friday before the release date, we'll send your order
   out on Monday, the day before the release date.

 We've got lots more great music and special promotions on our web site,
 http://www.cduniverse.com
>
 Here is the exact url:
 http://www.cduniverse.com/asp/albuminfo.asp?lc=76648+560902&frm=mm_11-4-99
 to your featured new release.

 If that link doesn't contain updated information use the following url:
 http://www.cduniverse.com/a.asp?a=Yello&frm=mm_11-4-99






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From: Czibor <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) Records for sale from my collection
Date: 06 Nov 1999 18:55:22 +0100


Hi, I have a lot of CDs and vinyl records for sale from my
collection,
covering a lot of different electronic styles: techno, house,
ambient,
electronic body music, some samplers...

Please go to
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/6297/venta_eng.txt to
see a
full listing.

Thanks,

Carlos.



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From: Chris Norton <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) Re: Business abbreviations
Date: 07 Nov 1999 20:47:15 +1100


Very boring subject but:

Pty Ltd means Proprietary Limited - that is, only specific people can buy
shares in the company.  It is a private company and is not listed on the
stock exchange.

Companies that are just 'Ltd' (limited) are listed on the stock exchange.

"Limited" means that if the company goes bust, then the shareholders are
not personally liable to pay the debts of the company.  The most they have
to pay is any amount they still owe on shares they are holding.

Now, back to Yello...


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From: Daniel Svensson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) Ok so which song is your favorite?????????
Date: 09 Nov 1999 15:41:46 +0100


Tell us about your favorite song on the new album, mine is "Get On"




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From: Antti Koivum{ki <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (yello) Ok so which song is your favorite?????????
Date: 09 Nov 1999 16:59:19 +0200 (EET)


On Tue, 9 Nov 1999, Daniel Svensson wrote:

> Tell us about your favorite song on the new album, mine is "Get On"

I really can't tell the absolute favorite yet.

But I did play "Houdini" last Friday night when I was dj'ing. It sounded
really great, and dancing people didn't seem to mind too much this
stranger track (compared to the hit parade prior to Houdini). "Get On" is
also a very good track.

Btw, are there many dj's on this list? I am by no means a pro, djing is
merely a dear hobby for me. But I do get paid most of the times I play, so
I guess I am a semi-pro dj. Or something. I can't even beat-mix that good
or do any other cool tricks, though.

And I would also like to hear what the dj's say when you haunt them with
your wishes for Yello. I usually get replys like "Don't have any with me
right now" or "I just might have 'The Race' on some of my compilations".

Yours,

Antti, a.k.a. dj koivu

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (yello) Ok so which song is your favorite?????????
Date: 09 Nov 1999 11:45:05 EST


In a message dated 09/11/99 15:01:25 GMT Standard Time, [e-mail] writes:

<< > Tell us about your favorite song on the new album, mine is "Get On"

 I really can't tell the absolute favorite yet.

 But I did play "Houdini" last Friday night when I was dj'ing. >>

All I can say is thank god for the internet, otherwise I'd be oblivious to
both the question and answer. Yesterday was a wonderful day, an excellent
Jane Siberry concert and "Motion Picture" arriving through my letterbox. It's
a sad reflection on a country that has always considered itself some kind of
epicentre for "pop" music that this CD is not even being released here.

So I've managed to give it six or seven listenings (I recorded it onto
minidisc last night so I could listen to it cycling into work) and yet again
Yello fail to disappoint, they're just streets ahead of anyone else working
in this field (with the exception of Kraftwerk, though Mouse on Mars and To
Rococo Rot increasingly bode well for the future).

Favourite Track ? - well yes "Houdini" is very good. I do have a penchant for
"Shake and Shiver" and "Point Blank" but the whole CD is wonderful.

I used to DJ years ago, at all nighters at the Scala Cinema here in London. I
would always play Yello. I go to clubs very rarely now and most of the places
in London its not exactly de rigueur  to make requests. Still a place that
likes to think of itself as so hip can't remain in ignorance of music of this
quality for much longer......... can it ??

Andrew

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From:   Juhana Sadeharju <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (yello) Ok so which song is your favorite?????????
Date: 09 Nov 1999 18:50:46 +0200


>Tell us about your favorite song on the new album, mine is "Get On"

Track 2 is very good. Sorry, Yello website thinks Lynx is not a good enough
at viewing text parts of the Motion Picture pages. That is, can't get the
track titles. (Lynx is able to view text but frames too! I simply don't
understand webmakers why they even bother to write texts like "Sorry. Only
with Frames here." --- tell me at least one webbrowser which cannot show
frames! It is not the Lynx.)

Your suggestion "get on", turns out to be too repeative in this contest
but I always listen to it first! Heh, it is good as well.

"Shake and shiver" must be my second favourite. "Point Blank" has great
sounds and great mode. I think Point Blank borrowed one rhythm melody
from Tremendous Pain/Hell Mix -- check it out! (Anyone has Hell Mix
as mp3 or such?)

Track 4 and the last track are my least favourites even I don't skip them.

Yours,

Juhana


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From: "Juno ." <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) An Early Farewell :-(
Date: 09 Nov 1999 17:48:29 GMT


Hello everyone !!!! :-)

As I have one week left before I leave for the black pit of despair which is
Basic Military Training (lol), I just wanted to give an early goodbye to
everyone on all four of my favorite lists.

You have all been very fun and interesting people to chat with, teaching me
many valuable things regarding the love of music and technology. I will
definitely miss all of the silly flame wars and annoying post questions that
had been mentioned fifty million times before (;-) . It felt damn good to be
part of four groups of individuals who respect the masters of the music game
the same way that I do.

I don't know for sure when I'll be back online; maybe within the next three
to six months. I really have no idea what the fuck the future holds, but so
far I see plenty of recording, traveling, and meeting lots of new people. If
I get to be stationed in Germany, I might plan on bringing some friends over
to see Kraftwerk at Expo 2000.

Anyways, I want to keep it short and sweet, so let me just say that I love
all you guys and that I will miss you all very much from the bottom of my
heart.

God Bless all of you forever. :-)

Josh E. (Juno)

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From: Roger Schweizer <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (yello) Ok so which song is your favorite?????????
Date: 09 Nov 1999 21:30:07 +0100


Hi all

My is favorit songs are
1. prisoner of his mind
2. time freeze (wonderful piano !)
3. Point Blank
4. Croisssant bleu
5. get on

greeting
Roger


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> Tell us about your favorite song on the new album, mine is "Get On"
>



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From: "Per-Stian Vatne" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (yello) Ok so which song is your favorite?????????
Date: 10 Nov 1999 00:00:37 +0100


| Tell us about your favorite song on the new album, mine is "Get On"

"Point Blank", no doubt. But I really like tracks 3, 4 and 10 as well,
and... well... it's just a great new album! Best one since "Flag".

Just waiting for singles and different (Yello!) remixes now; have anybody
heard any rumours about which is going to be the next single, actually?

Per-Stian



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From: "Paul Hill" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) favorite song
Date: 09 Nov 1999 18:58:00 -0500


My personal favorite is a toss up between Get On, Liquid Lies and Time
Freeze.  But they're all great, it's a wonderful album.  I especially like
the jazzier tunes.

Paul from Ohio, USA

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> Tell us about your favorite song on the new album, mine is "Get On"
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From:   Juhana Sadeharju <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (yello) Ok so which song is your favorite?????????
Date: 10 Nov 1999 15:49:45 +0200


>From:   "Per-Stian Vatne" <[e-mail]>
>
>and... well... it's just a great new album! Best one since "Flag".

PU and this album have really good sounds. For some reason Zebra
is most popular CD here. I know Zebra was blamed at the time but
it is not that bad. My wife said the new album is a bit slack
compared to Zebra when I played Zebra to get change from MP.

All Yello albums have had been good but I always get ideas on what
the next album should have differently!

I just love those sweeping vocal morph (whatever) sounds on MP.
Zebra has them at least in Move Dance Be Born, PU has them, and now
MP. Boris mentioned Supernova and Nord Lead synths in the recent chat
but I'm not sure if they do the thing. Anyone?

By the way, I downloaded immediately manuals for both of them. Check
www.novationusa.com and www.clavia.se. Even if you have some other
modular synth or softsynth such as Csound, you could pick up a few
thousand Nord Modular patches --- the file format seems to be plain
ascii and it is documented. But anyone know how those vocal morphs
actually works? Weblinks would be nice too.

Yours,

Juhana


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (yello) favorite song
Date: 10 Nov 1999 09:40:08 EST


Three listens so far; still not ready to give a favorite.

Don't have a copy yet?

http://cgi.ebay.aol.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=195119875

minimum was $18.00

FG


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Subject: (yello) I just read this...
Date: 10 Nov 1999 09:13:25 -0800


I was reading a book called The Complete Cross-Referenced Guide to the Baby
Buster Generation's Collective Unconscious that claims they are "A
Dictionary of Cultural Literacy for Humans who grew up in the '80s" by Glenn
Gaslin and Rick Porter.  (A very long title for a book!)  I thought they had
something interesting to say about our favorite group, Yello.

I quote:

Yello
Rare is the person who owns any album by this music group.  Rarer still is
the person who doesn't recognize the mechanized, guttural "Oh yeah" and
"Chk, chka-chkk-aahh" from it's one known song, featured in Ferris Bueller's
Day Off, The Secret of My Success, Twix commercials, and uncountable
sporting events.  See also Bueller, Ferris

So I looked up the see also reference
Quote:

Bueller, Ferris
A hero.  See also Hughes, John

They didn't even put a photo of Boris and Dieter next to the entry and do
you really think of Yello's music and mechanized and guttural?  I can see
some of the music of Yello as mechanized or guttural but I got the
impression that the authors didn't really give Yello a chance.

IMHO.

At least they got Ferris Bueller right.


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From: "Per-Stian Vatne" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (yello) I just read this...
Date: 10 Nov 1999 18:59:58 +0100


| Yello
| Rare is the person who owns any album by this music group.  Rarer still is
| the person who doesn't recognize the mechanized, guttural "Oh yeah" and
| "Chk, chka-chkk-aahh" from it's one known song, featured in Ferris
Bueller's
| Day Off, The Secret of My Success, Twix commercials, and uncountable
| sporting events.  See also Bueller, Ferris

Well... some people might have heard the track "The Race" as well, don't you
think? Sporting events, commercials, movies... :) Don't know who wrote this,
but I'm not quite sure his local copy of "Collective Unconscious" is totally
up to date

Tracks from "Motion Pictures" are already being used as background music on
a popular morning show on the biggest local radio here in Norway. And I just
stopped by a new documentary (or something) on the TV with tracks from
"Baby" as music throughout the program.

And... wow(!)... Yello's great album "Motion Picture" is this weeks fastest
climbing in the official charts for Norway. Up from 39 to 21 since last
week. Interesting to see more people are getting it. There's also a comment
regarding Yello, I'll post it later...

Regards,
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Subject: Re: (yello) I just read this...
Date: 10 Nov 1999 13:15:17 EST


In a message dated 10/11/99 17:14:39 GMT Standard Time, [e-mail]
writes:

<< I can see
 some of the music of Yello as mechanized or guttural but I got the
 impression that the authors didn't really give Yello a chance.  >>

The fact that these same people refer to the character of Ferris Bueller as a
"hero" , speaks volumes to me of the likely validity of any of their opinions.

I once had the misfortune to see this film and found the central character to
be a nauseating little prick, not surprisingly I walked out after 15 minutes
annoyed that I had wasted my money and time on such unadulterated rubbish.

One day Yello's music will find it's way onto the soundtrack of a film that's
actually worthwhile.....


Andrew

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From: "Juno ." <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) OT: More Computer Stuff
Date: 11 Nov 1999 01:34:44 GMT


Well, I apologize if this topic bored some of you out there the first time
it was mentioned, but that's what you have delete buttons for.

;-P

Anyways, as I had talked about before, I had waged the war in my head about
converting to Mac over PC (especially in regards to music making).

Although I will keep my PC for now, it will definitely go in the closet once
I get my hands on my new Mac system soon.

But there's just one problem. :-0

I originally said that I would start saving up for a G4 tower, but now the
new iMac DV systems have really caught my attention.

The new iMac DV's have now inlcuded all of the features that I originally
wanted in the first editions :

350 or 400 G3 Processors
100 Mhz System Bus
64 or 128 MB RAM
2 Fire Wire Ports
6, 10, 0R 13GB Ultra ATA Drives
8 MB Video RAM
ATI Rage 128 Card (2x AGP)
4x DVD-ROM
Harmon Kardon speakers
iMovie video software

Plus, I've always wanted to get into video editing. I've been thinking of
building a site to house all of my rare Art Of Noise footage on, but I don't
have a video capture device.

So now the debate is, which one should I buy ?

To paraphrase a statement made by Apple, they said that you would only need
a G4 over an iMac if you needed a bigger monitor
(??? Monitors are sold separately from the G4 towers), needed PCI expansion,
or if you needed more than a maximum of 512 MB of RAM.

Surely that'a a faulty statement.

I like the iMac because it's truly plug-and-play, and everything is so
compact and easily accessible (ever have to change an audio cable from the
back of a large tower case ? It's quite a bitch when you have little room to
move around !!!!).

Plus, I love the flavors (hey, when will we see a Lemon model ?)

:-)

But I want the G4 for its brute-strength processing.

Either way, both models will be faster than the newest Pentiums (according
to Apple's tests LOL) .

So what do you Mac Addicts think ? : New iMac, or new G4 ?

BTW : I know that there are USB MIDI boxes available for the Mac, but are
there any full-fledged USB audio cards/boxes out there ? I know that Roland
and Edirol released their UA-100 Audio Canvas, but its interface software is
specifically for PC. I really want to start doing 24-bit recording.

Thanks again for putting up with my long-ass posts.

;-P

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Subject: Re: (yello) OT: More Computer Stuff
Date: 11 Nov 1999 00:28:02 EST


To give you insight on whether you'll be better off with a PC vs. a G4 will
depend on how much you "work" system. I use both platforms and both operate
differently depending on what you use them for.

The PC will generally work fine, and has the most video/capture/edit software
titles available, and may be the way to go if you have little money to
invest. However, Windows is notoriously famous for freezing up on you, and
you'll need to run NT on the PC if you expect to work non-stop without
interruptions. The G4 is designed to be a clydesdale/quarterhorse
combo-speed, and a bulletproof operating system. Apple is great (although not
yet as cheap as PCs) for video, and IMHO, the quality is superior, and the
processors are more efficient.

It'll be a big decision for you especially if you intend to dump a lot of $$$
into your set up. My advice would be to talk to a few video pros in the
industry who use each system to help you decide what's best for you. They'll
know what works, and what doesn't.

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From: "Oleg Skrynnik" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) Squeeze Please is on air on Russian local radio station!
Date: 11 Nov 1999 09:10:40 +0300


It's wonderful!

Best wishes,
Oleg.





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From: "Vinnie" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) Re: yello-digest V2 #164
Date: 10 Nov 1999 17:25:13 -0000


Hi all,

Oh I despair! I keep reading all this "what's your favourite track" stuff
and I haven't heard the single or the album. "Order it off the net you
whinger!" you might say. Can't do, my bank account is currently frozen after
some unscruplous people got hold of my card details and used them to
subscribe me to some phoney webspace thing (I already have 3 lots of free
webspace for Blank's sake!). Does anyone in the know have a future release
date for Yello in UK?

>From: Antti Koivum{ki <[e-mail]>

>But I did play "Houdini" last Friday night when I was dj'ing. It sounded
>really great, and dancing people didn't seem to mind too much this
>stranger track (compared to the hit parade prior to Houdini).

Nice that Yello get played in a club at all! They are completely dancable to
my mind (and I've been quite a keen clubber in my time) and yet they don't
get played. I believe this is because they have "too much" personality in
their music, which leads DJs too consider them a commercial/pop act. If only
their music was completely instrumental and nondescript eh? (Ha!)

>And I would also like to hear what the dj's say when you haunt them with
>your wishes for Yello.

Where I go it just isn't done, and they wouldn't have any anyway. The last
time I got to dance to Yello was early on one night and it was a mix of
Jungle Bill. It didn't exactly fill the floor though.


>From: [e-mail]

>It's a sad reflection on a country that has always considered itself some
>kind of epicentre for "pop" music that this CD is not even being released
>here.

Very nicely put! If Yello were 30 years younger with one fifth of their
brains, one hundreth of their talent and one thousandth of their taste they
could form a boy band and prance around miming to someone elses songs or do
the old sit on a stool wearing polo neck sweaters singing painfully sincere
songs that your grandmother would like bit. It makes me so mad - mad enough
to KILL!

>Favourite Track ? - well yes "Houdini" is very good. I do have a penchant
for
>"Shake and Shiver" and "Point Blank" but the whole CD is wonderful.

Oh stop it please!

>Still a place that
>likes to think of itself as so hip can't remain in ignorance of music of
this
>quality for much longer......... can it ??

Don't bet on it matey!


yours despairingly,

Vinnie

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From:   Juhana Sadeharju <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (yello) OT: More Computer Stuff
Date: 11 Nov 1999 22:01:02 +0200


>From:   "Juno ." <[e-mail]>
>
>Well, I apologize if this topic bored some of you out there the first time
>it was mentioned, but that's what you have delete buttons for.

Now I'm getting tired for that kind of stupidy.
Please delete this guy from these mailing lists.

Juhana


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (yello) OT: More Computer Stuff
Date: 11 Nov 1999 19:02:30 EST


Get with me. I'm an apple rep.



In a message dated 11/10/99 8:35:28 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

> Well, I apologize if this topic bored some of you out there the first time
>  it was mentioned, but that's what you have delete buttons for.
>
>  ;-P
>
>  Anyways, as I had talked about before, I had waged the war in my head
about
>  converting to Mac over PC (especially in regards to music making).
>
>  Although I will keep my PC for now, it will definitely go in the closet
once
>
>  I get my hands on my new Mac system soon.
>
>  But there's just one problem. :-0
>
>  I originally said that I would start saving up for a G4 tower, but now the
>  new iMac DV systems have really caught my attention.
>
>  The new iMac DV's have now inlcuded all of the features that I originally
>  wanted in the first editions :
>
>  350 or 400 G3 Processors
>  100 Mhz System Bus
>  64 or 128 MB RAM
>  2 Fire Wire Ports
>  6, 10, 0R 13GB Ultra ATA Drives
>  8 MB Video RAM
>  ATI Rage 128 Card (2x AGP)
>  4x DVD-ROM
>  Harmon Kardon speakers
>  iMovie video software
>
>  Plus, I've always wanted to get into video editing. I've been thinking of
>  building a site to house all of my rare Art Of Noise footage on, but I
don't
>
>  have a video capture device.
>
>  So now the debate is, which one should I buy ?
>
>  To paraphrase a statement made by Apple, they said that you would only
need
>  a G4 over an iMac if you needed a bigger monitor
>  (??? Monitors are sold separately from the G4 towers), needed PCI
expansion,
>
>  or if you needed more than a maximum of 512 MB of RAM.
>
>  Surely that'a a faulty statement.
>
>  I like the iMac because it's truly plug-and-play, and everything is so
>  compact and easily accessible (ever have to change an audio cable from the
>  back of a large tower case ? It's quite a bitch when you have little room
to
>
>  move around !!!!).
>
>  Plus, I love the flavors (hey, when will we see a Lemon model ?)


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From: "Per-Stian Vatne" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) Do not underestimate the dark side...
Date: 12 Nov 1999 01:15:08 +0100



Well, not exactly, but here is what the biggest Norwegian newspaper comments
to Yello being this weeks fastest climbing album on the national charts -
directly translated from Norwegian:

"Old men must not be underestimated! Dieter Meyer and Boris Blank in swiss
Yello still attracts people/buyers with their ("cinematic"? "movielike"?)
kind of music. Not at all unfair, when knowing Yello was far ahead of their
time for a lot of years."

Hmm... This newspaper definitely thinks Yello is not ahead anymore. That
they are getting old is harder to argue with :)  But who cares really, when
they still make music like "Point Blank" and "Prisoner of his mind"?
Excellent album!

Regards,
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From: "Juno ." <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) NEW KRAFTWERK SINGLE - 12/6/99
Date: 12 Nov 1999 01:48:17 GMT


K R A F T W E R K -  E X P O   2 0 0 0

EMI ELECTROLA 8879842 (Maxi-CD Single)

RELEASE DATE : 12/6/99 (Germany only ?)


From de.rec.music.elektronisch: (Thanks Klaus Zaepke)

[...]

Tracklisting:

1 Expo 2000 Kling Klang Mix 2000 6.48
2 Expo 2000 Kling Klang Mix 2001 6.50
3 Expo 2000 Kling Klang Mix 2002 5.36
4 Expo 2000 Radio Mix 3.35

[...] Credits:

Music Data - Hutter, Schneider, Hilpert.
Kling Klang Musik/Sony Music Publishing
Engineer - Fritz Hilpert
kling klang studio P 1999

The copyright in this sound recording is owned by Kraftwerk under exclusive
licence to EMI Electrola GmbH C 1999 EMI Electrola GmbH

Kling Klang Produkt 1999 Ralf Hutter Florian Schneider

Doepfer, Steinberg, Kawai, TC-Electronic, TC Works, Modern Concepts.Net,
Quasimidi

Original Expo Logo Qwer C Expo2000 Hannover Layout Lmp


If you don't believe it, go to http://www.emimusic.de , and do a search for
Expo 2000. This info is practically hidden from the site, as I guess EMI
Germany wants to keep it a secret.


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Subject: RE: (yello) Do not underestimate the dark side...
Date: 12 Nov 1999 07:41:38 GMT


>"Old men must not be underestimated! Dieter Meyer and Boris Blank in
swiss
>Yello still attracts people/buyers with their ("cinematic"?
"movielike"?)
>kind of music. Not at all unfair, when knowing Yello was far ahead of
their
>time for a lot of years."

A review is a review, good or bad.

I still cannot understand why they choose not to sell in UK.

I've ordered it, I await.... I tried to download the RAM files with
lynx, but my PC claims they are corrupt... :(

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From: "Robert B" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) My opinion: Motion Picture
Date: 12 Nov 1999 10:30:49 -0600


Well, I've heard the album... initial impression: what are they smoking?
They need to stop.

I really do not like the new album very much.

I own a lot of Yello, I was one of the very few that liked Pocket Universe
and Zebra tremendously. I think these two albums are their strongest works
followed closely by Baby.

Now, let me sum up the good points about Motion Picture:

The following tracks are okay (in my order, best to weakest): Point Blank,
Get On, Squeeze Please, Houdini

As for the rest... they are perhaps the weakest Yello tunes I've ever heard.
I am not happy with this new album at all. In past experience, I was happy
with every new album that came along immediately. Now, as a fairly die hard
fan, I will continue to listen to this new album and hope I will "see the
light" eventually, since I feel as if I *must* like it basically because
it's Yello.

I have not received my fix. :P




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From:   Juhana Sadeharju <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (yello) NEW KRAFTWERK SINGLE - 12/6/99
Date: 12 Nov 1999 19:57:21 +0200


>From:   "Juno ." <[e-mail]>
>
>K R A F T W E R K -  E X P O   2 0 0 0

Hey, grow up! Stop posting non-yello articles to Yello list.
Simply: don't crosspost!

Also, your article generates more noise to lists if more people
start replying to your articles. And certainly annoy people who are in
several of those mailing list and have to see your postings multiple
times.

Juhana


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Subject: Re: (yello) NEW KRAFTWERK SINGLE - 12/6/99
Date: 12 Nov 1999 13:17:18 EST


In a message dated 12/11/99 18:02:08 GMT Standard Time, [e-mail]
writes:

<< Hey, grow up! Stop posting non-yello articles to Yello list.
 Simply: don't crosspost!
  >>

Actually I greatly appreciated receiving this post and I'm sure I can't be
the only person on this list who also likes Kraftwerk.

On the other mailing lists I subscribe to people frequently discuss or
mention information regarding artists other than the one that's the direct
subject of the list and nobody tells them to "grow up".

Andrew

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From:   Juhana Sadeharju <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (yello) NEW KRAFTWERK SINGLE - 12/6/99
Date: 12 Nov 1999 20:42:10 +0200


>From:   [e-mail]
>
>Actually I greatly appreciated receiving this post and I'm sure I can't be
>the only person on this list who also likes Kraftwerk.

Sure you are!
I'm also interested in Kraftwerk but I think we should respect the charter
of the mailing list and not post non-Yello mails here. It is ok if we
compare Yello and Kraftwerk or such (see the recent article series
on what else music Yello fans listens to). But that Kraftwerk announce
had nothing to do with Yello, period.

I'm sure there are more glueless people like you who don't mind
crossposting and charters, but you all can grow up to respect other readers!
If my tone is rather unrespective, it is only because you're just looking
at a mirror and see how unrespective mails were posted.

I'm interested in Kraftwerk and I'm interested in audio software/hardware,
but we should take them elsewhere.

>On the other mailing lists I subscribe to people frequently discuss or
>mention information regarding artists other than the one that's the direct
>subject of the list and nobody tells them to "grow up".

And? The point!? "Make noise until it really starts disturbing readers."
That is why I say "grow up".

I guess I have the right to express my opinion about spams. I would not
like to unsubscribe this list due noise. Please stop!

Juhana


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From: "Robert B" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) Re: My opinion: Motion Picture
Date: 12 Nov 1999 20:48:18 -0600


Well, yes -- I would say that I do like techno sound. But I love "Baby" all
the same. Baby is incredible! Full, clean acoustic sound. That's why it
ranks in my top three Yello albums.

I would say that of the three I mentioned, they are my favourite in this
order: Zebra, Pocket Universe, and Baby. But don't misunderstand, all three
of these are nearly equal in my book and all get nearly equal playing time
(with Zebra edging out slightly). Zebra has to be the best album ever, in my
opinion. Night Train is simple fabulous!

I really enjoyed Pocket Universe's experiemental/conceptual feel. It was
really original, cutting edge stuff. It still is very, very unique even two
and a half years later.

But Motion Picture isn't really all that ground breaking. When I listen to
Yello albums, each one progresses. Motion Picture is the first album that
doesn't seem to really go anywhere. It's more of a rehash or "fresh look" at
older concepts and older sounds. This is what disappointed me. I was
expecting something "all new". While the songs themselves are new, the sound
they provide isn't necessarily.

Just my nine cents of commentary in this one dime world.

-- Robert



> It seems to me you like more of the techno sound. I seems like you do not
> like the more acoustic sound. Don't get me wrong electronic dance is my
main
> listening everything from pop to techno and house. I love all that stuff
but
> nothing ever compares to the sound of Yello between the "You gotta say
yes"
> to "Baby" its the most amazing music. I love the Techno albums of Yello
and
> all the remixes but just something about that period witch is magical.
Which
> brings me to the point that the new album sounds more like that period
with
> Zebra thrown in the mix.
> Personally the new album is amazing. The most I have been happy with a
Yello
> album since Baby.
>
> Love you all
>
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From: Roger Schweizer <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) Re: My opinion: Motion Picture
Date: 13 Nov 1999 22:06:15 +0100


For Me:
Night Train is the best Yello song

greeting
Roger


>I would say that of the three I mentioned, they are my favourite in
this
>order: Zebra, Pocket Universe, and Baby. But don't misunderstand, all
three
>of these are nearly equal in my book and all get nearly equal playing
time
>(with Zebra edging out slightly). Zebra has to be the best album ever,
in my
>opinion. Night Train is simple fabulous!





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From: marcolphus <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) to FTP-holder
Date: 13 Nov 1999 22:44:39 +0100


Hey, "Point Black" is only 3:38, you probably missed something, right?
(original is 6:13 long)
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Subject: Re:  (yello) Re: My opinion: Motion Picture
Date: 13 Nov 1999 19:18:13 EST



But Motion Picture isn't really all that ground breaking. When I listen to

>
Yello albums, each one progresses. Motion Picture is the >first album that
>
doesn't seem to really go anywhere. It's more of a rehash or >"fresh look" at
>
older concepts and older sounds. This is what disappointed >me. I was
>
expecting something "all new". While the songs themselves >are new, the sound
>
they provide isn't necessarily.

Good point but...
Yello has always recyled their sounds. I hear sounds and musical phrases in
Pocet U that date back to Claro Que Si.
This album is new to me. It's much jazzier and housier than ever before.
Night train is one of my very favorites too.
Well just my thoughts are Yello always sounds like Yello. No matter what. I
always hear sounds though out the entire album spetrum that are borrowed from
each other.

:)
Julian


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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?VIALLE_Gr=E9gory?= <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) Croissant Bleu
Date: 14 Nov 1999 13:37:23 +0100


It's some bad english to french translation sentences but the words of th=
e
song are exactly those one :

Quand j'ai vu vos yeux, la premi=E8re fois, j'=E9tais perdu...
Je suis venu =E0 la Cl=F4serie des Lilas tr=E8s souvent
On attends pour ces moments divines, pour toute la vie
Mon coeur a =E9t=E9 prit par joie et mal

Quand je suis avec vous
Je suis perdu, just for few
Quand je suis amoureux
C'est la peur, juste un peu

C'=E9tait en octobre, il y a 2 ans
Et c'=E9tait la troisi=E8me que je vous ai vu
J'ai pas eu le courage pour ces premiers mots impossibles
Et m=EAme r=E9fl=E9chir sur ce probl=E8me pour commencer une conversation=
 =E9tait un
clich=E9

Quand je suis avec vous
Je suis perdu, just for few
Quand je suis amoureux
C'est la peur, juste un peu

J'=E9tais bien plac=E9 au bar et camoufl=E9 derri=E8re un livre tr=E8s im=
portant
Avec un sourire dans les yeux, vous m'avez demand=E9...
"Quel est le titre de votre livre ?"
Et j'ai r=E9pondu, apr=E8s une pause assez artificielle : "Je ne sais pas=
 !!!!"

Quand je suis avec vous
Je suis perdu, just for few
Quand je suis amoureux
C'est la peur, juste un peu

Quand je suis avec vous
Je suis perdu, just for few
Quand je suis amoureux
C'est la peur, juste un peu

Quand je suis avec vous
Je suis perdu, just for few
Quand je suis amoureux
C'est la peur, juste un peu




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From: Michael Weintroub <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) Thanks guys
Date: 15 Nov 1999 00:07:52 +0200


Hello Yello Fellows

Just a quick note to thank Mark, Andrew and a few others for your help in downloading
Squeeze Please so I can see and hear the track. I love it!!
And for pointing me in the right direction for ordering Motion Picture.
I know.....it's very similar to other Yello stuff...but hey!! it's still a great sound!
Hoping to get it within a week. Comments will follow soon after.

Move..... Dance..... Be born!
Mike


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From: "Andy Jackson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (yello) NEW KRAFTWERK SINGLE - 12/6/99
Date: 15 Nov 1999 09:10:54 GMT


> I'm also interested in Kraftwerk but I think we should respect the charter
> of the mailing list and not post non-Yello mails here. It is ok if we
> compare Yello and Kraftwerk or such (see the recent article series
> on what else music Yello fans listens to). But that Kraftwerk announce
> had nothing to do with Yello, period.

I wasn't aware we had a 'charter' here. And I'm sorry to hear that
some people on this list are so focused that they can't bear to see
anything besmirching the purity of the Yello content on this list.

Crossposting of junk is a pain, true, but we need to get things in
perspective here...we're talking about Kraftwerk, here. This news
should be on the main national news broadxast, never mind the Yello
list.

I've grown tired of the authoritarian introspectivity of this list
over the last year, and I only stay tuned for news of the band. I
doubt whether Yello live in their own little world where people
aren't allowed to talk about anything other than the one subject
which brought them together - Yello music. They'd probably be pretty
disparaging of such a rule/charter-dominated fan list. They are
artists...they experiment and draw influences from around them. They
have their ears and eyes open to what's going on in the world. That's
how they make such great music. It's a pity this list is dominated by
such a parochial attitude.

> And? The point!? "Make noise until it really starts disturbing readers."
> That is why I say "grow up".

It's only you who seem to have been disturbed, Juhana...or do you
speak for others who didn't dare post a response here?

> I guess I have the right to express my opinion about spams. I would not
> like to unsubscribe this list due noise. Please stop!

I don't want to upset anyone here, but I don't regard Kraftwerk as
too off-topic to mention once! Now, if you all start to speculate on
the state of the US financial system or whether the British monarchy
has a place in society then I think we'd be right to draw the line.
But Kraftwerk?

I'll decide what I'm interested in and what I'm not and I'll do any
censoring that needs to be done here at my PC rather than ask
everyone else to censor themselves before they post to the list.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (yello) NEW KRAFTWERK SINGLE - 12/6/99
Date: 15 Nov 1999 11:56:06 EST


I personally am glad you posted about the new Kraftwerk. I expect for others
and my self to let this list know about good music. We listen to Yello so you
know we listen to good music.
I was subscribed to Kraftwerk list but there is so much postings that I
didn't care about that I got off it. Its nice to hear about other great
groups on here such as Kraftwerk or William Orbit (new Madonna album coming
out soon and his own classical album in Jan 17)

Love you guys. Chill out. World piece!

Julian


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From: "Adelka" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) some thoughts about Motion Picture
Date: 18 Nov 1999 17:34:59 +0300


Well,  finally i got Motion Picture. Here is my opinion about this album.
First of all, this album is GREAT, as other Yello albums. Motion Picture
proves another time that Boris never repeats himself. I don't know why do
some of you think that this album sounds like 80s' albums. I didn't notice
anything which would be comparable to Flag, One Second and other albums. The
only exception is Squeeze Please (this is the reason why this composition is
more a hit than any others). Of course, there is something reminding old
times. It's maybe more complicated structure of sounds than in Pocked
Universe. It can remind 80s. But the kind of sounds totally changed. It's
more "new" than "old" Yello. But it's STILL Yello. The music became less
melodic and less ironic, if you know what i mean. But it became cooler and
more rhythmic. This is the great music for dance. Listening to this album,
it's impossible not to move a body. For anyone who loves Yello, this album
is perfect.  One of the most attractive traits of Yello is that you never
know what kind of music they will produce the next time. You always expect
something new and surprising. And finally you get it. Motion Picture is very
good confirmation of it!

Best,

Olga

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A little boy came to a circus with his father. A compere has come to  area
and announced, "Now you will see deadly piece! Our acrobat will jump down
into the barrel of water from the dome!"
Than the acrobat came. He was lifted up to the dome. All the spectators have
standed still. Than the acrobat jumped down into the barrel and took leave.
Little boy. "Dad, i don't understand one thing. This piece was called deadly
but noone has died... Dad, what's the matter with you??!! DAD!!!..."



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (yello) some thoughts about Motion Picture
Date: 18 Nov 1999 17:52:53 EST


In a message dated 11/18/99 9:20:45 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

> proves another time that Boris never repeats himself. I don't know why do
>  some of you think that this album sounds like 80s' albums. I didn't notice
>  anything which would be comparable to Flag, One Second and other albums.
The

Not literally but same nuances.


Julian


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From: "Vinnie" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) Re: yello-digest V2 #166
Date: 18 Nov 1999 20:28:41 -0000


Yello there

At last I have been sent by a very kind person a recording of "Motion
Picture". Naughty, yes, but when it (eventually??) gets released in UK I
faithfully promise to get the CD so Dieter can buy some golf tees or
something.
Anyway... after initial hmmm? Oh yeah? and ahhh... I gotta say YES! First
impression was that it was a little samey, at least mood-wise. Not one
quarter as "wacky" and absurdist as some of their other albums, but for me
that's a good thing as I always preferred their classy side; Lost Again, not
Bananas To The Beat etc. The beats are fairly non-pacey. I'd heard people
saying it was a return to the Yello of old but I disagree. Only the single
sounds like old stuff and to my mind it's the worse track on the album! I'm
glad they have delved into the slinkier, deeper side of techno rather than
slamming up the BMPs as they did with tracks like Resistor (too
undignified!) Actually tracks like "Houdini" remind me of Fluke (though
Fluke pinched Yello's style first of course). A big difference on this album
is Boris's (slightly disappointing) use of fairly generic techno-ish sounds.
This is evident on Distant Mirror though then again this is one of my
favourites tracks. I love "Point Blank"! Very classy indeed and it really
moves along and creates one of those famous "sound-pictures", as does the
incredible "Cyclops". Despite the rather inappropriate image of a giant
mythical one-eyed monster, this is music to shake the end of the 20th
century! Someone said that they wish Yello's music could appear in something
other than crappy films. Indeed. Tracks like this one and "Sweet Thunder"
are crying out to be soundtracks for something suitably epic. All in all MP,
like PU, shines when Yello look forward and not back.

Vinnie

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From: David John <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) Yello on Swiss Radio
Date: 22 Nov 1999 15:55:56 +0100


Hi all,

My source in the Swiss alps submitted this to my site today:


"This Saturday (27-11-1999) will be a interview with Dieter Meier and Boris
Blank on DRS3, a Swiss radiochannel. In the radioshow Kosmos from 17:00 to
20:00. The program will be a top 5 on Boris and Dieters favorite music in
the eighties."


-A shame I don't have DRS3 on my radio here in Denmark, and I bet I'm not
the only one on this list with that problem, hehe

Maybe one of you from Switzerland will make a short transcript to the list
- or maybe even make it available on the site....?  (David x'ing his fingers)



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (yello) I beg you :)
Date: 22 Nov 1999 11:12:51 EST


Can someone that has relations with the Yello offices.
Please beg them for me to put out the video's on DVD.

I'm sick of waiting.

Julian


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From: "Jennifer and H" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) Motion Picture
Date: 23 Nov 1999 08:17:20 +1300


Hi!

Couldn't agree more - you sum up my thoughts about the album completely.

There are a few tracks that remind me of Fluke's "Techno Rose Of Blighty",
and some of the vocals from the "Oto" album, and I still think (after
several listens) Squeeze Please is the worst track on the album.  When I
heard it for the first time, my thought was "NO!!  Boris, you're too
talented to put out another wacky latino-dance-trombone-thing that sounds
not quite like "The Race" ... and it did take me a few listens to "get" the
album proper.

But on the whole it is a very good album ... probably not as good as PU, but
you can't have everything.  But it's still better than "Baby" and "Zebra"
which in my mind are still the two most disappointing albums although there
are a couple of fabulous moments and tracks on both of these ... and it was
nice to seem them getting darker again after the frivolous "Baby".

Favourite track on the album at the moment: "Croissant Bleu".  Going through
a rather French phase at the moment ... probably listening to Air's "Moon
Safari", and Laila France's "Orgonon" too much ... or is it the cheese? ...
:)

Old Dieter really should do more vocals in French ... he sounds really cool,
very sophisticated ... although maybe if he did we wouldn't get new words in
the English language like "uniwerse" (see "Domingo") ... which would be a
pity.

Best regards

Schtick



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (yello) Motion Picture
Date: 22 Nov 1999 19:49:36 EST


In a message dated 22/11/99 19:20:32 GMT Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< and I still think (after
 several listens) Squeeze Please is the worst track on the album. >>

Just a quick defence of this track, it was the first I heard as while I was
waiting for my copy of MP to arrive from mainland Europe, I downloaded the
video from the MTV site. At first I didn't like it, I thought they were just
retreading old ground......  but now I actually like it a great deal.

It's interesting however to hear how other people's opinions differ though.
"Baby" is just about my favourite Yello album apart from "Stella" and a
measure of how much I now like "MP" is that I'd say it's their best album
since "Baby". I think Air sound like elevator music to be frank........ but I
do like the Laila France album (though I've always been a big Momus fan
anyway).

Andrew

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (yello) Motion Picture
Date: 22 Nov 1999 23:17:12 EST




<< Old Dieter really should do more vocals in French ... he sounds really
cool,
 very sophisticated . >>

I was wondering how this sounded to the French speaking audience. Is it
"foreigner" French or is he in a comfort zone??

Interesting how there seem to be two camps of thought where Baby & Zebra are
concerned. My thoughts concerning these two releases for years has been that
Boris needs an outside producer. Sort of an, "All work and no play makes Jack
a dull boy" thing.

I too went through a period of closet disappointment the first few listens
then had the songs grow on me. I have always regarded jazz as sort of pompous
and snooty but decided the jazzy parts were thoughtful and not without a
sense of humor.

The "Babylon" track stands out musically though some of the rhymes make me
uncomfortable. Trite? Mundane? not sure-rarely do lyrics affect me  but they
just seem awkward.  That Blender song on Baby was a good example of the same
sentiment.

I like the croissant song too. Is it about food? Hope not.

Regards,
FG


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From: "Vinnie" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) Re: yello-digest V2 #167
Date: 22 Nov 1999 16:27:03 -0000


Yello again,

Last time I wrote..

>it really
>moves along and creates one of those famous "sound-pictures", as does the
>incredible "Cyclops". Despite the rather inappropriate image of a giant
>mythical one-eyed monster, this is music to shake the end of the 20th
>century!

..after I sent that one it occured to me that Boris Blank has one eye and
that he may have named this awesome instrumental after himself?! Whoops!! Oh
dear...

Vinnie

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From: Cliff Tuel <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (yello) Motion Picture
Date: 22 Nov 1999 22:10:05 -0800


Has anyone received Motion Picture from CDUniverse yet?  I ordered it there
after a recommendation on this list, and it still hasn't made its way to
California. :-(  Anyone want to make a better recommendation?

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From: "M.D. Mackey" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (yello) Motion Picture
Date: 23 Nov 1999 08:07:13 +0000 (GMT)


>
> << Old Dieter really should do more vocals in French ... he sounds really
> cool,
>  very sophisticated . >>
>
> I was wondering how this sounded to the French speaking audience. Is it
> "foreigner" French or is he in a comfort zone??

From my wife's reactions (she's a fluent French speaker), it couldn't
be anything other than Swiss French (quite a thick accent), and it's
fairly idiomatic.

> Interesting how there seem to be two camps of thought where Baby & Zebra are
> concerned. My thoughts concerning these two releases for years has been that
> Boris needs an outside producer. Sort of an, "All work and no play makes Jack
> a dull boy" thing.

FWIW I think Baby is one of Yello's best, but was rather disappointed with Zebra.
Where does that put me? I wasn't sure about MP at first, but it's growing on me.
That's a fairly sure sign that it will become a firm favourite.

> I like the croissant song too. Is it about food? Hope not.

My French is fairly awful, but parts of the lyrics are along the lines of "When I am
with you, I am in fear, just a little." More or less :)

--
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From: Mark Pulley <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (yello) Motion Picture
Date: 24 Nov 1999 01:52:42 +1100


>Subject:     Re: (yello) Motion Picture
>Sent:        23/11/19 1:45 AM
>Received:    23/11/99 7:28 PM
>From:        [e-mail]
>To:          [e-mail]
>
>I like the croissant song too. Is it about food? Hope not.

Yuk. Blue croissants... (Must be mouldy ones)

Mark
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From: "Shaun Turner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (yello) Motion Picture
Date: 23 Nov 1999 18:15:24 +1100


I sent  off a message yesterday to find out what's going on. I received a
message saying if I ordered the Friday before it released it would be
dispatched on the Monday. I cant tell you I am somewhat disappointed. I did
receive excetrix remixes this week from cduniverse, and am very impressed
with yello's effort there.

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>
> Has anyone received Motion Picture from CDUniverse yet?  I ordered it
there
> after a recommendation on this list, and it still hasn't made its way to
> California. :-(  Anyone want to make a better recommendation?
>
> --
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From: Juhana Sadeharju <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (yello) Re: yello-digest V2 #166
Date: 23 Nov 1999 09:29:11 +0200


>From:   "Vinnie" <[e-mail]>
>
>saying it was a return to the Yello of old but I disagree. Only the single
>sounds like old stuff and to my mind it's the worse track on the album!

Yep. I too get the same feeling about that Squeeze Please track.
It is different from the rest. I would like to hear if there is some
good reason for it -- is it made much earlier than other tracks?
Or were it added after hearing that there is a similar song (with respect
to mambo rhythm, whatever) at top ten quite recently?

>glad they have delved into the slinkier, deeper side of techno rather than
>slamming up the BMPs as they did with tracks like Resistor (too

I don't see similarities between those two.

>undignified!) Actually tracks like "Houdini" remind me of Fluke (though
>Fluke pinched Yello's style first of course). A big difference on this album
>is Boris's (slightly disappointing) use of fairly generic techno-ish sounds.

He uses them pretty well. He seem to use the same composition methods
than used with Temendeous Pain (Bible Mix etc.) but this time he got
the technique more transparent. But I'm not expert on these...

I miss more occasional sound effects. Some female voices as addition
to Dieter's voice. Well, these could be considered as wishes for the
next album!

Sincerely,

Juhana


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (yello) Yello Items For Sale
Date: 24 Nov 1999 03:31:34 -0800


Hi

I have the following items for sale, please email me to make me an offer or for more information.

Yello Jungle Bill UK CD Single
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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?VIALLE_Gr=E9gory?= <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) Croissant Bleu
Date: 25 Nov 1999 12:50:41 +0100


> I was wondering how this sounded to the French speaking audience. Is it
> "foreigner" French or is he in a comfort zone??

I'm french and I can say it's some collegian french words badly translated,
no more sophisticated !!! Sad that Dieter doesn't worked anymore on this
song, it could be nicer I think and music is nice behind ! I'll do a
translation of the song soon



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (yello) Croissant Bleu
Date: 25 Nov 1999 08:17:16 EST


In a message dated 25/11/99 11:58:34 GMT Standard Time, [e-mail]
writes:

<< I'm french and I can say it's some collegian french words badly translated,
 no more sophisticated !!! Sad that Dieter doesn't worked anymore on this
 song, it could be nicer >>

I think this song is a distant 'relation' of "Otto di Catania". There I
remember him saying that the vocal line was pretty much done in one take and
of course that his Italian was by no means perfect. I would imagine therefore
that the same applies with "Croissant Bleu" and that he would argue that if
he'd tried to perfect his French the performance itself would have lost
something in the process.

Monolingual English speakers like myself would struggle to tell the
difference anyway :)

Andrew

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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?VIALLE_Gr=E9gory?= <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) Croissant Bleu
Date: 25 Nov 1999 21:24:45 +0100


>Subject:     Re: (yello) Motion Picture
>Sent:        23/11/19 1:45 AM
>Received:    23/11/99 7:28 PM
>From:        [e-mail]
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>
>I like the croissant song too. Is it about food? Hope not.

Croissant Bleu should seen like a part of the moon called "croissant"
because of the form in French !

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From: Sheldon Stern <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (yello) Croissant Bleu
Date: 25 Nov 1999 14:15:03 -0800




VIALLE Gr=E9gory wrote:

> >I like the croissant song too. Is it about food? Hope not.
>
> GREG ;o)

I sure hoped it would be:)Chefshelly




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From: Michael Weintroub <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) Motion Picture
Date: 26 Nov 1999 00:15:30 +0200


>Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 22:10:05 -0800
>From: Cliff Tuel <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Re: (yello) Motion Picture
>
>Has anyone received Motion Picture from CDUniverse yet?  I ordered it there
>after a recommendation on this list, and it still hasn't made its way to
>California. :-(  Anyone want to make a better recommendation?

Hi Cliff. Well, I'm experiencing a similar situation with my order for MP from
Frontstage (a Belgian site). I ordered it on 13 November, where they quoted one
week's delivery, and I'm still waiting!!!!! That's Belgium to UK. Not exactly
a vast journey! Oh well, I'm sure it will be worth it in the end.
Then I can jump in with the others and give "MY" opinion.
Bet the bloody thing arrives in the post tomorrow, now that I've posted this!!!

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From: "Bo Andersen" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (yello) Motion Picture
Date: 26 Nov 1999 09:38:07 +0100


>Has anyone received Motion Picture from CDUniverse yet?  I ordered it there
>after a recommendation on this list, and it still hasn't made its way to
>California. :-(  Anyone want to make a better recommendation?

I got mine from Swiss www.directmedia.ch about a week after it was released
(I'm in Denmark)

bo



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From: "Andy Jackson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (yello) Motion Picture delivery from Belgium!
Date: 26 Nov 1999 09:01:51 GMT



> Hi Cliff. Well, I'm experiencing a similar situation with my order for MP from
> Frontstage (a Belgian site). I ordered it on 13 November, where they quoted one
> week's delivery, and I'm still waiting!!!!! That's Belgium to UK. Not exactly
> a vast journey! Oh well, I'm sure it will be worth it in the end.
> Then I can jump in with the others and give "MY" opinion.
> Bet the bloody thing arrives in the post tomorrow, now that I've posted this!!!

I ordered from FrontStage too...both MP and the Squeeze Pleaze
single. They mailed me yesterday to say that MP was on the way
after a 3 week wait (it was being backordered) and that Squeeze
was still being waited for. They've been good at staying in touch
and I am quite impressed, even though the delivery has been
relatively slow. It'll probably arrive today or tomorrow, so fear not
Mike!


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From: "Mayer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) Motion Picture in USA
Date: 26 Nov 1999 04:37:26 -0600


Hey Americans!
While my local music shops don't expect to see Motion Picture without
special ordering it, I see that it is now available on CDNOW.com for $20.99,
which isn't too bad for an import.

I've had a good experience with cdnow in the past, so I would recommend
them.

davy
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From: "Robert B" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) Motion Picture $9.95 in USA.. read on
Date: 26 Nov 1999 12:33:37 -0600


Even though I overall am unimpressed with Motion Picture, I decided to apply
my bargain huntin' skillz to finding an inexpensive way to order MP in the
USA.

As it turns out, Buy.com has MP for $19.95. They are offering free shipping
for the rest of the year. They also have coupons. $10 off any order. So, as
you can see... $9.95 is a fair price for an import. :)

If you're a new Buy.com customer, use this coupon ($10 off you first order):

http://www.buy.com/promo/89420005.asp

Have fun! :)

(they also sell ... everything almost -- it's a good site)




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From: nic <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) first impressions of motion picture
Date: 26 Nov 1999 21:38:55 GMT


so here it is, thanks to www.eil.com in the UK at 17.99 UKP

the album has a dark but jazzy feel to it, and i can hear why it
reminds you of the yello of 'old'. yello does not really date.

the sound is very full, like pocket universe pushing my system to it's
sonic abilities. it's not as 'frantic' an album as past albums, this
is more laid back, slower bpm, sounding more purposeful.

squeeze please almost sounds out of place on this album, but it fits
in with the overall feel. motion picture is an ideal title, it does
call to mind scenes, particularly from detective movies.

anyway i shall be fully road testing the album Sat 27th. I have two
days of VMS operating system upgrades, hardware and reclustering, this
will be the accompaniment!

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From: "Ms Oscar" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (yello) Motion Picture $9.95 in USA.. read on
Date: 28 Nov 1999 18:16:14 PST


Unfortunately, you can only use the coupon once and it has to be sent to you
from a third party vendor.  They are still offering free shipping thru
tonight.

beth

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Even though I overall am unimpressed with Motion Picture, I decided to apply
my bargain huntin' skillz to finding an inexpensive way to order MP in the
USA.

As it turns out, Buy.com has MP for $19.95. They are offering free shipping
for the rest of the year. They also have coupons. $10 off any order. So, as
you can see... $9.95 is a fair price for an import. :)

If you're a new Buy.com customer, use this coupon ($10 off you first order):

http://www.buy.com/promo/89420005.asp

Have fun! :)



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From: "Gary Wingert [earthlink]" <[e-mail]>
Subject:  RE: (yello) Motion Picture $9.95 in USA.. read on
Date: 29 Nov 1999 20:28:26 -0800


Hmmm, beth, it's more like an e-coupon.  Yes, you can use only once, but I
just used it and they deducted $10 from my order.  Just launch that URL and
click Add to Basket, and you're on your way..

wingo

Ms Oscar said:

> > Unfortunately, you can only use the coupon once and it has to be
> > sent to you
> > from a third party vendor.  They are still offering free shipping thru
> > tonight.
> >
> > beth



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From: "Ms Oscar" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (yello) Motion Picture $9.95 in USA.. read on
Date: 30 Nov 1999 03:02:16 PST


it didn't work for me when i tried it.  no matter.

beth

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Hmmm, beth, it's more like an e-coupon.  Yes, you can use only once, but I
just used it and they deducted $10 from my order.  Just launch that URL and
click Add to Basket, and you're on your way..

wingo




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From: Michael Weintroub <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) IT'S ARRIVED!!
Date: 01 Dec 1999 00:02:54 +0200


EUREKA!!!

17 days after placing the order, Motion Picture is here!
I've only given it the one playing so far and my verdict
is BRILLIANT!!! WONDERFUL!!! WELL WORTH THE WAIT!!!
Why this gem is not available in the UK, I'll never know.
There's such a haunting mix of albums from the past which
crops up in many of the tracks. It gives me a warm comfortable
feeling. Like meeting up with old friends.
Outstanding tracks first off have to be Houdini, Squeeze Please
(which I feel fits perfectly within this production), Shake and
Shiver and Point Blank.
My tastebuds were aroused from the mono samples downloaded from
the net. And to hear them now in full blown stereo reminds me
of the time I had my ears syringed... when everything became so
crystal clear and sharp.
I'll need a few more plays to be more specific on reviewing.
There's only one thing that bothers me. Normally when you play
an album for the first time there are a few great tracks and
the rest grow on you with time.
But with this one........... I love them all!!!
Either they will get boring or I will reach cosmic ecstasy!
Here's hoping for the latter!

Was all that a bit over the top? Aw.... what the hell. I'm happy!

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