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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 15:26:46 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (yello) SHUTUP!

- --On whose authority do you act?--

Please people! Your arguements are why I have been deleting messages to the
list before they are read. Stop quibbiling like children about who can spit
and piss farther. there is new stuff coming out and Goddammit if no one can
help me find it in Seattle (no flames to those who have offered to sell me
theirs or where to order in Europe).

If you're going to argue, how about private email between the warring
factions? What a concept!! Honestly, more than list doesn't interest me but
should the sheer volume of postings warrant it, I will be supportive of it.
Should some of the kiddies take a nap?

I have probably 1/2 of the Yello knowledge of anyone else on this list. I
subscribed to learn more about them and be "taught" the ins and outs of the
Yello listening culture. Sheesh, I never even heard of the ReWatch just a
couple of months ago, but if all that members do is argue, then I will be
"taught" how to argue too.

CP


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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 22:35:13 +0200
From: Marko Patsikka <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (yello) SHUTUP!

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> --On whose authority do you act?--
>
> Please people! Your arguements are why I have been deleting messages to the
> list before they are read. Stop quibbiling like children about who can spit
> and piss farther. there is new stuff coming out and Goddammit if no one can
> help me find it in Seattle (no flames to those who have offered to sell me
> theirs or where to order in Europe).

Flames?? Is this normally way how You call help in US??

I'm really suprised about Your comment (am I understand it right?),
someone are ready to buy extra record and send it to You and take only
his charges and you call it flame. :-(


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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 19:13:08 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (yello) Yello's Homebase

In a message dated 16/02/99 20:05:52 GMT Standard Time, [e-mail]
writes:

<< I didn't say it's a privilege. Yes, I think I understand their music,
 that's why I don't have troubles understanding their web pages. But
 I don't say it is a necessary condition. I don't know whether you
 understand Yello's music or not. The point is that you are complaining
 about the homepage and I, like many others, just enjoy it as it is,
 because it is worth it. >>

I think it's now been established that any "problems" with the "Eccentrix"
content have arisen from the way in which the way the web page appears in
different browsers. The feature the web designers incorporated in this page
simply does not work with IE4 unless it is running in full-screen mode. Thus
this has nothing at all to do with whether one "understands" Yello or not -
rather it is something that the designers employed by Yello should have taken
account of given the number of people who use IE.

Andrew


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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 08:55:19 +0000
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (yello) Homebase

>>>Thus this has nothing at all to do with whether
one "understands" Yello or not - rather it is something
that the designers employed by Yello should have taken
account of given the number of people who use IE.

Yes. Also, - I used Netscape Communicator on the
Web Page and was ONLY able to view the scrollbar
at the bottom of the page, when I removed the
Navigation bar (at the top) from view.

In addition, since it was myself who originally posted the
question to the list about how the recently updated screens
were to be navigated, - I apologize for any subsequent
'disagreements' that I may have instigated.

Regards,
James




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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 06:58:32 +0100
From: "Mathias af Jochnick" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (yello) SHUTUP!

>I'm really suprised about Your comment (am I understand it right?),
>someone are ready to buy extra record and send it to You and take only
>his charges and you call it flame. :-(


Makke, I think he meant to say that his comment was NOT a 'screw-You-all' to
those who had offered him help. He just wants to get the album in Seattle,
without all the mailing hassle.


Still no signs of Eccentrix in Sweden. What the hell are they doing??

/Mathias



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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 01:07:38 -0600
From: Mayer <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) Eccentrix in the USA

I found a local record store in my town (Madison, Wisconsin) willing to
order Eccentrix for me, charging $30.99.  If anybody in the US is
interested in contacting them, email me and I'll send the phone number.

davy



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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 15:42:18 +0000
From: Nathan Lloyd <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (yello) Eccentrix in the UK?

What do I do to get hold of Eccentrix?  What action are people in the UK  =20
taking to get their copy?

If anyone has had any success ordering through mainstream music shops, ie =20=
=20
Virgin, HMV or Our Price or through a reputable import company I would  =20
appreciate it if they could let me know=2E=2E=2E=2E

Cheers

Nathan =20



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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 10:31:09 -0600
From: Duane <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) The Yello site

In response to the Yello sight being difficult. It is. The sight could
be unique and still fast and effective. Here is an example
http://www.eye4u.com/home/index.htm
Could you imagine this with loops from Yello?
Just a thought.



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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 11:39:24 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (yello) Record Mergers

This being off-topic, but those of us trying to find the really hard stuff
from our favorite artists may want to speed up our searches. Several large
record labels (Island, Virgin, HMV, Atlantic, et al) have merged and have
announced cutbacks on signed artists by as much as 75% and have forced some
groups to buy back copies of their releases. What a shame as now I get to hear
Hootie and the Blowfish and Celine Dion style performed by 75 different acts,
and not the really relevant, progressive, and stylish beats by groups most of
us never heard of. Don't know if I heard it here first, but has been confirmed
by several on a few other lists.

CP


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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 11:49:52 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (yello) The Yello site

In a message dated 2/17/99 11:29:35 AM Eastern Standard Time, [e-mail]
writes:

> http://www.eye4u.com/home/index.htm

I cant belive you mentioned this site. I personaly think this is the best
looking site on the net and am in prossess of learning Flash to make my own
Yello site like it.

Julian


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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 16:55:50 +0000
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (yello) Labels

>>Several large record labels (Island, Virgin,
 HMV, Atlantic, et al) have merged and have announced
cutbacks on signed artists by as much as 75% and have
forced some groups to buy back copies of their releases.

If I understand correctly, this is quite significant -
does this mean quantity in actual production is cut back?
By 'forcing some groups' do you mean that if a party wishes
a release to stay available, that it's in their own interests
to buy copies while still in production?

I knew the record industry was in a kind of recession, but this
is quite drastic.

Regards,
James




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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 12:01:59 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (yello) The Yello site

That site also is one of my favorites.
Check this one out ,I am sure you will like it.

http://www.gabocorp.com/

This is why I bought stock in macromedia :-)

[e-mail] wrote:
>
>
> > http://www.eye4u.com/home/index.htm
>
> I cant belive you mentioned this site. I personaly think this is the best
> looking site on the net and am in prossess of learning Flash to make my own
> Yello site like it.
>


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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 11:55:19 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (yello) The Yello site

In a message dated 17/02/99, 10:29:35, [e-mail] writes:
<<In response to the Yello sight being difficult. It is. The sight could
be unique and still fast and effective. Here is an example
http://www.eye4u.com/home/index.htm
Could you imagine this with loops from Yello?
Just a thought.>>

This is indeed a very impressive site - well worth looking at.

Andrew



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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 15:28:54 +0100
From: "Daniel Svensson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (yello) Please

Until recently this forum has been a very warm and hospitable place to fl=
oat
away into. But now I sense a certain kind of evilness lurking around. Can=
=B4t
we just stay friends the way we always have been. I don=B4t like to read
postings where people are arguing about nonsense. I like to read postings
about Yello or funny stories. Let people have the opinions they want to
have, and say what they want to say, but ask yourself, do I really need t=
o
say this? Is it possible I might hurt someone?

For example, you don=B4t like that Jonas have an information list of his =
own,
let him have one, if you don=B4t like it, don=B4t subscribe to it. Someon=
e wrote
in one mail that Jonas wasn=B4t the only one who could give information, =
of
course he isn=B4t but on the other hand, he has never asserted that he is.

So I just beg you one more time keep this a discussion forum not a debate
forum.




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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 12:36:39 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (yello) Check out Artists, Insiders Speculate About Effects Of Universal/Polygram Merg

 Still off-Yello topic, but pertinent to the record industry:

As per previous post about massive record mergers and the emails about my
sources, here's a couple links detailing what all is (and already has
happened) going on:

 <A HREF="http://wallofsound.go.com/news/stories/layoffs012999.html">Click
here: Music Industry Prepares for Massive Layoffs              </A>

<A HREF="http://www.mtv.com/news/gallery/w/whitez990122.html">Click here:
Artists, Insiders Speculate About Effects Of Universal/Polygram Merger As D-
Day Comes</A>

 <A HREF="http://www.mtv.com/news/headlines/990210/story3.html">Click here:
Recording Industry Unveils "Madison Project" In Response To MP3</A>


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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 22:22:24 +0000
From: [e-mail]
Subject: RE: (yello) Eccentrix in the UK?

> What do I do to get hold of Eccentrix?  What action are people in the UK
> taking to get their copy?
Well I haven't seen Eccentrix in any high street stores , but I am
ordering it from The Esprit catalogue thing :P
Perhaps" MVC"  Might have it, that is a good UK store, I got
Solid Pleasure, Zebra, Pocket Universe and One Second from there..
And when I asked last week in Gloucester for Eccentrix they said
it would be in within a week...
> If anyone has had any success ordering through mainstream music shops, ie
> Virgin, HMV or Our Price or through a reputable import company I would
> appreciate it if they could let me know....


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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 14:16:33 +1000
From: [e-mail] (Craig Hull)
Subject: (yello) She's Got a Gun question

OK, this is a fairly trivial question, but hopefully someone will be able
to satisfy my curiosity.

On the track listing for Eccentrix Remixes, "She's Got a Gun (live at the
Palladium N.Y.)" is listed as running for 4.08. But on my copy of the
Goldrush maxi-single, on side two, "She's Got a Gun (live at the Palladium
N.Y.)" is listed at 4.20. Can anyone explain the discrepancy? Did Boris do
some "fine-tuning" for the remixes album?

Craig.

"I pull my gun once"
"I pull my gun twice"




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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 01:11:56 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (yello) She's Got a Gun question

I haven't done any side by side analysis but I seem to hear more of  what I'd
call an Arabic sort of overtone weaved into this version.

While I'm at it I should comment that the new release seems to make a pretty
good soundtrack for Southern California, maybe life in general.

That song that has the James Bond/Get Smart feel (Topaz?) was playing in the
car as I waited near a park for my kids. A squirrel was darting about
nervously & seems to move in perfecet accord with the song.

Later, same day,  two overweight black women were power-walking  past my house
as I sat in the car pounding "More" out. They thumpity thumped on by,
unbeknownst to them,  marching to the beat.

That evening, family in tow, I was at a stop light and this guy who appeared
to be a boxer out for a run (hands taped like one) shuffle stepped waiting for
the same light. "How, How" was on & my kids pointed out before I noticed that
he too was in time with the music.

I'm not saying that this riivals  the Dark Side of the Moon/ Wizard of Oz
association but...


Regards,
      Fred


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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 23:16:09 -0800
From: Sheldon Stern <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (yello) She's Got a Gun question

[e-mail] wrote:

>
> Later, same day,  two overweight black women were power-walking  past my house
> as I sat in the car pounding "More" out. They thumpity thumped on by,
> unbeknownst to them,  marching to the beat.
>
> That evening, family in tow, I was at a stop light and this guy who appeared
> to be a boxer out for a run (hands taped like one) shuffle stepped waiting for
> the same light. "How, How" was on & my kids pointed out before I noticed that
> he too was in time with the music.
>
> I'm not saying that this riivals  the Dark Side of the Moon/ Wizard of Oz
> association but...
>
> Regards,
>       Fred
>

Gee Fred, are you sure that the producers of the new VW Jetta commercial didn't
put you up to this??

Sheldon



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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 09:24:48 +0000
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (yello) Off-Topic

Over the weekend I bought the new 'Fat Boy Slim' album. In terms of style,
- - I liken it
to the Prodigy, - but with more emphasis on 'sampling' - and more noticably
it has the 'humour'
which was present in Yello's more earlier music, with the samples not just
'tacked on' to the music.

'Rockerfella Skank' and 'Praise You' have already been released - (I've no
idea how popular
these tracks were in other countries), but it is the other tracks that
utilize samples well, - and unlike the
Prodigy and FSOL et al; - there aren't parts of the album where it can
occasionally,  - 'grind' making it
unlistenable. -

Each track has been worked on, and thought about. And, also, the two tracks
mentioned above are so
'vastly' different - that the very diversity of the styles impresses the
listener. This was what impressed me about
 Yello.

Regards,
James




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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 08:47:38 -0700
From: Lazlo Nibble <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (yello) The Yello site

On Wed, Feb 17, 1999 at 10:31:09AM -0600, Duane wrote:

> In response to the Yello sight being difficult. It is. The sight could
> be unique and still fast and effective. Here is an example
> http://www.eye4u.com/home/index.htm

Fast and effective?  This site took two minutes to enter and when it was
finished, all I got was the music and a blank page -- and I'm using a
relatively recent browser (Netscape 4.05).

Flashy design does not make a site any good.

- --
    Lazlo Nibble - [e-mail] - http://www.studio-nibble.com
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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 11:31:49 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Re: (yello) The Yello site

In a message dated 18/02/99, 09:50:37, [e-mail] writes:
<<Fast and effective?  This site took two minutes to enter and when it was
finished, all I got was the music and a blank page -- and I'm using a
relatively recent browser (Netscape 4.05).

Flashy design does not make a site any good.
>>

It may well be that you need the shockwave plug-in, which you can get from
www.macromedia.com and maybe this also explains why it took so long to load.

When you see the site in it's full glory, I think you might change your mind
:)

Andrew


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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 21:10:56 +0200 (EET)
From: Antti Koivum{ki <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (yello) SHUTUP!

On Wed, 17 Feb 1999, Mathias af Jochnick wrote:

> Still no signs of Eccentrix in Sweden. What the hell are they doing?

Well I'm happy to tell that I bought my own copy of Eccentrix today.
Finland is therefore a better place to live in than Sweden. Right? ;)

 [writing dead.letter][antti koivumaki <[e-mail]>]   - oh yeah -
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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 21:54:52 +0100
From: Georg Plank <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (yello) She's Got a Gun question

> ....was in time with the music.
>
> I'm not saying that this rivals  the Dark Side of the Moon/ Wizard of O=
z
> association but...

Just switch on your TV and wait for the commercials.
When you are playing Yello instead of the original score - it will be nea=
rly
always in time (exception for washing powder spots)

Maybe our world was build around Yello=B4s music - who knows ....

Yours,
G E O R G





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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 09:16:57 +0000
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (yello) Esprit Update

Hi all,
     Just to let you know, anybody who reserved a copy of
Eccentrix with Esprit - they recieved their first batch Wednesday
night, and everybody who has reserved a copy should
get theirs by the weekend or early next week at the latest.

Regards,
James




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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 22:13:45 +0000
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (yello) Boris equipment...

Does anyone know what equipment Boris uses to create his songs?
Does he stick to the same equipment each time or.change from Album to
Album... I have heard sounds used in earlier albums that have been
used for more  recent recordings..

P.S.
I have a Good Condition   Clare Que Si  LP , I picked up today at my
local record store for 10 pounds..
If anyone is interested , let me know :)



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