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Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 15:57:29 -0700
From: Scott Bergeson <[e-mail]>
Subject: FW: LEG-ALERTS 3-2: HUGE VICTORY FOR GUN OWNERS!

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WE DID IT FOLKS! WE DID FAR BETTER THAN ANY OF US COULD HAVE EXPECTED!
THANKS TO ALL OF YOU!

The tally: Of 17 anti-gun bill, only 5 passed - and not one contained
"major" gun control. Twelve anti-gun bills were defeated or never had
a vote. In addition, both asset forfeiture bills went down. One pro-gun
bill passed.

The list:
Anti-gun bills that passed:
HB 161: Juvenile Brady (Tyler): Unconstitutional "ex post facto" law.
Includes juvenile records in background checks.
HB 176: Weapons Restrictions for Mentally Ill (G. Cox): Deals only with
REPORTING to BCI, not prohibited persons. Requires reporting of anyone
who has EVER been committed to a mental institution, and anyone subject
to a "protective order". This information will be used, in conjunction
with other bills, to deny firearms rights.
HB 245: Safety in Public Schools (Wright): Expulsion of students who
bring guns to school. Mandatory expulsion for real guns, conditional
expulsion for toy guns. NO mandatory expulsion for violent crimes that
do not involve guns. (It is already illegal for anyone other than a law
enforcement officer or CCW permittee to bring a gun to school, so this
is unnecessary!)
HB 372 - Concealed Firearms (Garn, Cox, Waddoups): Allows BCI to revoke
certification of concealed carry instructors; makes other minor changes
to concealed carry law.
SB 72 - Restricted persons (Spencer): Unconstitutional ex post facto law.
Revokes firearms rights for life for anyone who has ever been committed
to a mental institution. Revokes rights for 7-10 years for anyone
adjudicated delinquent for a felony level offense. Revokes rights for
life for anyone in possession of a firearm and a Schedule I controlled
substance (street drug).

Anti-gun bills that were defeated:
HB 95 - Weapons Amendments (Jones) Would have mandated background checks
and registration for all private firearms transfers at gun shows. In order
to enforce this, all attendees at gun shows would have to be registered.
HB 174 - Public Safety Fee Process Revisions (Chard) Would have allowed
BCI to raise fees for background checks and permits (among others) without
legislative oversight.
HB 248 - Weapons Restrictions - Houses of Worship, Residences and Schools
(Jones) Would have banned firearms in schools, churches and private
residences unless the person carrying the firearm had prior permission to
do so.
HB 363 - Gun Restriction Amendments (G. Cox) Would have revoked firearms
rights for juveniles adjudicated delinquent for felony offenses or anyone
ever committed to a mental institution. Would have revoked rights for
nonviolent misdemeanors.
HB 383 - Revocation of Concealed Firearm Permits (Brown) Would have
outlawed open carry, as well as all shooting sports
SB 32 - Concealed Permit Holders Requirements (R. Allen) Would have
required a marksmanship test to obtain a concealed carry permit.
SB 161 - Restrictions on Weapons - Schools (Beattie) Would have required
a person lawfully carrying a firearm to report to the principal's office
when entering a school and "confess" that he was carrying a firearm.
Would have made it possible for schools to harass or dismiss employees
who chose to carry firearms.
SB 162 - Restrictions on Weapons - Churches (Beattie) Would have required
a person lawfully carrying a firearm to ask permission of a church
authority in order to do so.

Anti-gun bills that never made it to a vote:
SB 44 - Background check on Private Handgun Transfers (Peterson) Would
have required a background check and registration of all private handgun
transfers. Would have allowed local law enforcement to outlaw private
transfers.
SB 79 - Weapons Restrictions Amendments (Spencer) Would have revoked
firearms rights for a long list of misdemeanors
SB 87 - Firearms Amendments - Churches and Residences (Peterson) Would
have banned the lawful carry of firearms in churches and private
residences without prior permission
SB 153 - Criminal Penalty Amendments (Spencer) Would have revoked
firearms rights for a long list of misdemeanors

Pro-gun bills passed:
HB 199 - Limitation of Liability for Gun Manufacturers (Throckmorton)
- - Prohibits frivolous lawsuits against firearms manufacturers.

Asset forfeiture bills defeated:
HB 173 - Computer forfeiture (Buckner) - Would have allowed seizure
of computer equipment and data for trivial offenses. Owner would be
required to prove his property's innocence. No provisions for payment
of legal fees for innocent owners.
HB 124 - Asset Forfeiture (Wright, Swallow) - Did not address problem
of federal adoption of forfeitures, without which other reforms are
not effective. Bill sponsors agreed to hold this bill for future study.

Misc. losses
HB 296 - Prevention of Retaliatory Lawsuits (Lockhart) Would have
prevented lawsuits designed to silence activists. The Senate
repeatedly refused to vote on this bill, so it expired at midnight.


Full voting records are not yet available. However, once they are,
voting records and the UTGuns legislative ratings will be made public.

Full report on the shameful and deceitful goings on during the last
hours of the session to follow! However, Rep. John Swallow deserves
a LOT of credit for being the ONLY Representative trying to work WITH
gun owners.

Thanks to ALL of you for your hard work, calls, letters, attendance
at hearings, etc. The 2000 legislative session was a huge victory
for gun owners, and YOU deserve credit! THANK YOU! Your dedication
is very much appreciated!

Unfortunately, now is not the time to relax! While final ratings
are not yet available, the number of solidly pro-gun, pro-rights
legislators on the Hill is ZERO! If you don't want to spend another
two years battling full time just to slow down the destruction of
your rights, you need to get involved and help us CLEAN HOUSE (and
Senate)! This is the ONLY way (or at least the only peaceful way)
to restore and defend our rights!

Please take a minute NOW to go to the UTGuns Delegate information
and sign-up page at http://www.utguns.freeservers.com/volunteer.html.
We have good, principled, pro-gun, pro-liberty people running for
office, but they need YOUR help! PLEASE join us! The rights you save
will be your own!

Thanks again!
Sarah

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Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 17:04:26 -0700
From: Scott Bergeson <[e-mail]>
Subject: FW: LP RELEASE: Child Shooting

Study: Gun training (not gun bans) can help reduce tragic child violence

WASHINGTON, DC -- The shooting of a Michigan 6-year-old may focus renewed
attention on a federal study with an unconventional conclusion: Giving kids
more access to guns may actually help reduce such tragic incidents in the
future, the Libertarian Party said today.

"Instead of using the death of Kayla Rolland as an excuse to impose more gun
control, politicians like Bill Clinton should read this study -- since it
demonstrates that children who are taught by parents to use guns responsibly
are far less likely to commit crimes," said Steve Dasbach, the party's
national director.

"No, we can't say that this particular shooting could have been prevented --
or that this troubled 6-year-old should have been given a gun by his equally
troubled parents. But what we can say is that, in general, the most
effective way to reduce firearm-related violence among children is to buy
them a gun and teach them how to use it responsibly."

That surprising discovery is contained in a study by the federal government
entitled, "Urban Delinquency and Substance Abuse," which was conducted from
1993-1995 by the U.S. Department of Justice's Office of Juvenile Justice and
Delinquency Prevention.

In an effort to determine the relationship between "problem behaviors" like
drug use, teen pregnancy, and crime, child psychologists tracked 4,000 boys
and girls aged 6 to 15 in Denver, Pittsburgh, and Rochester, NY.

The findings were a slap in the face to "conventional wisdom" about children
and guns, said Dasbach -- and a sharp rebuke to Bill Clinton's renewed calls
for mandatory trigger locks and other gun control measures in the wake of
Tuesday's shooting in Mount Morris Township, Michigan.

According to the study:

* Children who get guns from their parents don't commit gun crimes (0%),
while children who get illegal guns are very likely to do so (21%).

* Children who get guns from parents are less likely to commit any kind of
street crime (14%) than children who have no gun in the house (24%) -- and
are dramatically less likely to do so than children who acquire an illegal
gun (74%).

* Children who get guns from parents are less likely to use drugs (13%) than
children who get illegal guns (41%).

"Boys who own legal firearms have much lower rates of delinquency and drug
use [than boys who get illegal guns] and are even slightly less delinquent
than non-owners of guns," the study reported.

"The evidence is in: When it comes to preventing youthful violence,
responsible parents and the Second Amendment apparently work better than
politicians' irresponsible proposals, such as so-called smart-gun technology
or mandated safety locks," said Dasbach.

Are Libertarians saying that every parent should buy their child a gun?

"Of course not," said Dasbach. "Deciding whether to give your son or
daughter a gun -- and teaching them how to use it -- is a serious decision
that every parent will have to make. Many parents will properly decide that
their children are not mature enough to learn how to use a gun safely. But
the point is: Responsible parents are better able to make that decision than
a bunch of irresponsible politicians in Washington, DC.

"Such an enlightened approach to gun ownership will not bring Kayla Rolland
back to life," Dasbach acknowledged. "But it would make it less likely that
another Kayla Rolland would die in such a tragic and pointless incident. And
that would be a step in the right direction."

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Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 17:09:25 -0800
From: Joe Waldron <[e-mail]>
Subject: KING COUNTY (WA) GUN POLL

Gun-grabbing King County Executive Ron Sims has placed a gun
question on the weekly poll at the KC web site.  Located in the
column on the left (where else?), the question reads, "In
general, do you think that laws covering firearm sales should be
more strict, less strict, or kept the same?"

Your proper response would be appreciated.  (BTW, this is the
King County of Kellerman "43 times" fame.)

Many thanks to King County Councilman Kent Pullen for the early
warning.  The poll will remain on the site through next
Thursday.

The web site is located at http://www.metrokc.gov/exec/

Thanx,
Joe W

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Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 17:07:33 -0700
From: charles hardy <[e-mail]>
Subject: Fw: March 5 columns -- blame schools, not guns

Thought some here might find this perspective interesting...


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Charles C. Hardy
Utah Coordinator--Women Against Gun Control
<[e-mail]>

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From: Vin Suprynowicz <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 15:49:26 -0800
Subject: March 5 columns -- blame schools, not guns

    FROM MOUNTAIN MEDIA
    EDITORS NOTE: A SHORTER VERSION, AT 850 WORDS, ALSO MOVES
    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE DATED MARCH 5, 2000
    THE LIBERTARIAN, By Vin Suprynowicz
    Government schools: a deadly experiment


    It isn't really about race. It hardly suffices for the
"multiculturalists" that the children of successful black judges and
movie
stars now go peacefully to school with wealthy white kids (for which
equality under capitalism, let us give thanks.) Nor have they ever much
cared that the main victims of their racial quotas (at least here in the
West) turned out to be not "sons of slave-owners," but rather deserving
Asians, whose forebears were also an oppressed minority.

  No, the goal of the "multiculturalist" movement -- a goal so dominant
that even basic literacy is happily sacrificed -- is to infiltrate the
American middle class with the offspring of the liberals' "new
plantation,"
the fatherless welfare homes of our crime-infested inner cities.

  The result? A six-year-old boy -- passed from hand to hand since his
father was jailed for a home invasion and finally living in a fatherless
crack house full of drugs, stolen guns, and other loot -- shot a
first-grade classmate to death in Michigan this week.

  Such crimes occur only in the mandatory government schools. In private
schools -- where admission is selective and voluntary, and kids who stab
each other with pencils are expelled -- such horrors are virtually
unknown.
Nor do we see home-schoolers committing such crimes (though the statists
never tire of warning us home-schooled children will not be "properly
socialized"!)

  This tiny killer is not some innocent who picked up an unfamiliar
object
and brought it to "show-and-tell." While on parole in December, his
father,
Dedric Owens, asked the child why he had committed violent offenses that
led to his earlier suspensions from school -- suspensions at the age of
six.

  According to Genessee County Sheriff Robert Picknell, "He said that the
kid told him he did it because 'I hate them.' "

  Gee, where could the kid have copped that attitude, in a society where
whites who victimize blacks because of their skin color receive "hate
crime
sentence enhancements," while racism is hardly ever mentioned in the
prosecution of black murderers who declare "You're all white trash,
racist
pigs" (this week's guest quote courtesy of one Ronald Taylor, charged in
Wilkinsburg, Pa. in the shooting deaths of three white males -- two
others
critically wounded -- after he apparently grew upset that white workmen
worked too slowly repairing his broken door.)

  In the real world, tens of thousands more parents of children now
interned in these squalid government camps -- operated more and more on
the
model of penal institutions, complete with body searches and metal
detectors, properly preparing their little inmates for the police state
of
our future -- will now quietly move their kids into private schools, or
finally resolve to homeschool their children, regardless of the financial
sacrifice required.

  But since it's "politically incorrect," don't expect to hear about this
swelling tide on TV.

  Instead, the national whining will be the usual, "Whatever can we do to
rid ourselves of these dreaded guns?"

  The standard lie is that guns are more readily available and accepted
these days, when in fact child gunshot deaths have been dropping for
decades, and our nation is currently seized in a paroxysm of paranoia
about
these tools of freedom: Airport police now seizing the little plastic
guns
that come with Christmas G.I. Joe sets; while our banks (I mean Citibank,
subject of a national boycott by the Second Amendment Foundation after
closing the account of the Nevada Pistol Academy for being a "gun-related
business"), insurance companies (like the ones that now refuse fire and
liability coverage to Las Vegas pawn shops that deal in guns), fire
marshals (I refer to the guys who now seek to ban "Cheaper Than Dirt" for
selling ammo via mail-order out of Fort Worth, Tex., as that company has
done for years), and even national shipping firms (let's hypothetically
call one of them "UPS") either raise rates, cut off service, or threaten
to
arrest legal, licensed firearms dealers as though they were spreading the
bubonic plague.

  Imagine the public sitting similarly silent if such a full-court press
were now being applied to the First Amendment, making it progressively
harder for private churches or newspapers to stay in business.

  This in distinct contrast to the peaceful 1950s, when fewer than half
our
kids finished high school (no "drop-out crisis" perceived) and when
- -- as recalled by retired Las Vegas auctioneer Robert Deiro -- the
basement
of Frazier Hall held an armory full of M-1 Garands and a rifle range used
for authorized practices and matches of Las Vegas High School's
award-winning rifle team.

  Gun control has been tried. In Australia, criminals now more confident
their victims will be disarmed have increased armed robberies by 44
percent.

  In England, where they finally finished banning civilian ownership of
handguns completely last year, staid London newspapers now dub industrial
Manchester "Gunchester," and the once proudly unarmed British bobbies
complain they're completely outgunned by youth gangs who now simply stock
up on fully-automatic AK-47 assault rifles, fresh out of the containers
in
which they arrive daily from Eastern Europe.

  To the extent that they do work, civilian gun bans lead to genocide, as
Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership have exhaustively
demonstrated. But apparently guns still make a handy voodoo doll in which
our statist media can stick their pins, in preference to focusing on the
real problem: the fact that fruitcake bureaucrats now control our
children's lives from ages 6 to 18.

  There, in keeping with the flawed 1930s notion that there exist "a
limited number of jobs" which must be protected for adult male heads of
household (the same justification employed to pressure "Rosie the
Riveter"
out of the workforce in 1946, and to set earnings limits on Social
Security
beneficiaries, which goofiness the House of Representatives finally voted
to overturn only this week) our children are rounded up, bored to tears,
and increasingly treated like dangerous inmates until they end up (start
ital)acting(end ital) like dangerous inmates.

  Take, for example, the reason I found myself talking to Mr. Deiro this
week. He called to explain how his son, Guy Robert Deiro, who now runs
the
family auction business (and who just finished a two-year stint as
president of the Boys and Girls Club of Henderson) decided to do a good
deed recently, hiring a 17-year-old kid from a fatherless Las Vegas home
to
work as a runner -- driving contracts around town -- in his after-school
hours, at $9 per hour.

  Because he hired the lad 28 days prior to his 17th birthday, the
younger
Mr. Deiro relates, the state Labor Department fined him $2,800 and
threatened to add penalties of 6 percent per day for any additional days
he
employed the young man, unless the lad took a mandated $3,000 commercial
driving course.

  "I had to let him go," Guy Robert Deiro explains. "He can't afford
$3,000
to go to some dumb driving school. In addition to the $9 an hour, I was
paying his car insurance, plus 21 cents a mile. I thought I was doing the
kid a favor -- frying hamburgers and french fries is more dangerous than
this job, and it was a way for him to learn the business, work his way
up.
It's absolutely absurd. It's big government getting in the way of people
trying to hire kids and show 'em a work ethic."

  Yet let some such lad eventually turn to a life of crime as the only
option left him by our meddlesome government masters, and what will we
hear?

  "How could this have happened? It must be the guns."


Vin Suprynowicz is assistant editorial page editor of the Las Vegas
Review-Journal. His book, "Send in the Waco Killers: Essays on the
Freedom
Movement, 1993-1998," is available by dialing 1-800-244-2224; or via web
site http://www.thespiritof76.com/wacokillers.html.

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Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 16:44:46 -0700
From: charles hardy <[e-mail]>
Subject: Guns in School study info from World Congress of Families

I have no info other than that which I am passing along here and have not
even looked at the web links.  But I thought you might find this
interesting.


- -----Original Message-----
From: World Congress of Families [mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: Friday, March 03, 2000 9:10 AM

An easier-to read, formatted, HTML version is normally available by 9AM
CT on the issue date at http://www.worldcongress.org/WCF/wcf_update.htm

Copyright ⌐ 2000 The Howard Center, All rights reserved

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   World Congress of Families Update, Online!
                  6 March 2000
                Volume 01 Issue 01
             A Free Email Newsletter
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[snip]

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9. Family Research Abstract of the Week
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 ôPublic officials concerned about studentsÆ bringing guns to school have

pushed hard for stricter gun-control laws.  Maybe they need to redirect
some of their activism into initiatives to pass tougher divorce-control
laws.  In a study recently completed at Indiana University - Purdue
University, Ft. Wayne, researcher David C. May identified family
structure
as a stronger predictor of carrying guns to high school in Mississippi, a

state with a particularly high rate of gun ownership.  data collected
from
about 5,000 students indicate that youth from single-parent or
ædisruptedÆ
families were æsignificantly more likely than their counterparts from
two-parent homes to carry firearms to school.Æ  What is more, this
linkage
between family structure and gun-carrying persists even in multi-variable

statistical models which take into account such things as æneighborhood
civility,Æ æfear of criminal victimization,Æ and æsocial control.Æö
(Source: David C. May, ôScared Kids, Unattached Kids, or Peer Pressure:
Why
Do Students Carry Firearms to School?ö Youth & Society, Vol. 31, No. 1
(September 1999), pp. 100-127.)
 You will find over 1,000 of similar research abstracts on the ôMembersö
section of The Howard Center web site at http://www.profam.org


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Charles C. Hardy
Utah Coordinator--Women Against Gun Control
<[e-mail]>

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Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 08:07:29 -0700
From: Scott Bergeson <[e-mail]>
Subject: NRA Directors

NRA voting members please take note.

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Subject: [Fwd: NRA E.V.P. Wayne LaPierre gives 2nd amendment rights away!]
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 17:36:41 -0700
From: "Arnold J. Gaunt" <[e-mail]>

Please read through the following message.  It helps to explain why
the NRA Executive Vice President so strongly supports Orrin Hatch.
They both support the enactment of more gun control.

If you are a voting member of the NRA (as I am), register your
opposition by voting for those who are in the DO NOT VOTE FOR: list
in the political advertisement immediately preceding the ballot
package in the March magazine.  These 14 director candidates will
oppose the gun control agenda being pursued by the NRA.

Arnold

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Subject: NRA E.V.P. Wayne LaPierre gives 2nd amendment rights away!
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 17:55:43 -0600
From: GOA-Texas <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]

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    NRA E.V.P. Wayne LaPierre gives 2nd amendment rights away!

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Just more hard proof of how we desperately need to elect staunch pro-gun
NRA Board of Directors that will not compromise our 2nd amendment rights
away. LaPierre & Heston need to be given their walking papers too. To voice
your disgust with NRA policies, first of all, VOTE the compromisers out by
going to http://www.goa-texas.org/BoD-1.htm then call the NRA and voice your
disgust at:

1-800-NRA-3888  or  1-703-267-1000  or e-mail: [e-mail]

Additional NRA abuses can be found at http://www.goa-texas.org/NRA.htm

Time to light up Congressional switchboards and apply the heat! For a list
of phone numbers for U.S. House of Representatives and Senators, go to:

http://www.gunowners.org/h106th.htm

http://www.gunowners.org/s106th.htm

With Respect,

Gun Owners Alliance
Chris W. Stark - Director

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http://www.nealknox.com/alerts/msg00249.html

     March 4 Neal Knox Update - President Clinton has called a
meeting for Tuesday with Congressional leaders to demand passage of
his package of gun laws.

     On Wednesday, he was on the NBC Today show and CBS Dan Rather
declaring that NRA has a stranglehold on Congress and is opposed
to all gun laws.

     On Thursday, NRA E.V.P. Wayne LaPierre was on NBC Today
detailing what all new gun proposals NRA supported.  He listed last
June's House-approved gun package which included a requirement that
dealers sell trigger locks with each handgun, requiring NICS checks
on pawn shop redemption's, banning importation of over-10-round
magazines not included in the 1994 ban, prohibiting "unsupervised"
access by juveniles to "assault weapons" and high-cap magazines, a
lifetime ban on gun ownership for juveniles convicted of violent
offenses, and mandatory background checks on buyers from gun shows
table operators.

     While show host Katie Couric wasn't impressed by the list of
gun laws NRA supports,  NRA members lit up NRA's phones
and the Internet, insisting that many of those provisions violated
the Second Amendment.

     LaPierre informed Couric that it was the House Democrats, with
White House backing, who killed the entire gun package because it
didn't have Sen. Lautenberg's draconian gun show background check
bill -- which could kill gun shows due to its almost impossible-to-meet
requirements on show sponsors.

     Sen. Lautenberg, during a press conferences with Sens. Richard
Durbin and Charles Schumer this week, stated that his intent was to
eliminate gun shows entirely.  His amendment would go a long ways
toward that goal.

     With Clinton declaring that his trigger lock package would
have saved the First Grader killed in Michigan -- which is patently
ludicrous since the murder gun was stolen and found in a crack
house -- most of the focus of Tuesday's meeting is likely to be
directed toward trigger locks.

     Virginia Rep. Tom Davis, chairman of the Republican House
reelection effort, sponsored the amendment requiring handguns to be
sold with trigger locks or other security devices last June.  With
NRA's blessing, it passed 311-115.

     Gov. George Bush said Wednesday that if such a bill came to
his desk he would sign it, but he felt use of such devices should
be up to the homeowner.  He asked if advocates of requiring
trigger locks to be kept installed wanted Federal "trigger lock
police" to assure compliance.

     The sticking point in Clinton's package is, as it was last
June, the NRA-backed gun show amendment by Rep. John Dingell, which
would impose workable requirements on gun show promoters and allow
an "Instant Check" to take no more than 24 hours instead of
Lautenberg's five business days.

     Clinton is again unlikely to allow the NRA-backed package to
pass unless it has the NRA-opposed Lautenberg's gun show amendment,
for he wants to keep the gun issue alive, particularly "trigger
locks."

     However, if the press begins to report the political game-
playing over trigger locks, Clinton and the Republican leadership,
at least Speaker Dennis Hastert and Judiciary Chairman Henry
Hyde -- might yet agree to pass the trigger lock bill and the other
NRA-backed provisions.

     The reaction of other House Republicans, led by Majority
Leader Dick Armey and Whip Tom Delay, and the 40 or so pro-gun
Democrats, led by Rep. Dingell, is a bigger question.

     Clinton may well figure that he has more than enough other
pending gun law demands to take nine-tenths of a loaf now, but I
don't expect that to happen until he's had a few more months to
wring the maximum crocodile political tears out of trigger locks.

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     Isn't it amazing that a reportedly recent Houston sharpened
screwdriver murder of one grade school kid by another has had no
national publicity?  And that this week's killing of two women by
three American kids who heaved large rocks off a highway overpass
in Germany, has gone almost unnoticed?


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Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 10:31:42 -0700
From: Scott Bergeson <[e-mail]>
Subject: FW: HCI Conceals Data

ALERT FROM JEWS FOR THE PRESERVATION OF FIREARMS OWNERSHIP
America's Aggressive Civil Rights Organization

For Immediate Release: U.S. NewsWire -- Full National Circuit distribution
Text Length: 376 words

HCI Conceals Data to Mislead President, Press and Public on Child Deaths


President Clinton, using Handgun Control Inc. (HCI) figures, recently
asserted that "13 kids" are killed by guns each day in America. "That
statement is fraudulent," according to civil rights activist Aaron Zelman.
"Americans should demand full disclosure. WeÆre getting half-truths and
lies."

Documents obtained from HCI reveal the deception: the "13 kids" figure
includes people "ages 19 and under." Using that category, legal adults ages
18 and 19 are misleadingly counted as "kids." Zelman noted "if a salesman
sold you a home or car by giving you doctored information, then you could
sue him for fraud. HCI is steering Clinton to defraud Americans using trick
data."

Using the deceptive HCI figures, the Clinton administration claims that more
victim disarmament laws (euphemistically called "gun control") will save
young childrenÆs lives. Actual data from the National Center for Health
Statistics (NCSH) prove otherwise. Less than 0.3% of all victims of lethal
misuse of firearms were children under 5 years of age. Less than .07% of
the total deaths from firearms misuse were accident victims under age 5.

"Saying that toddlers are shooting one another with guns is an outright
lie," Zelman stated. "Americans prevent crimes about 5,500 times per day
using firearms. HCI is concealing that fact."

NCSH reported firearms-related deaths in America for 1997 totaling 32,436.
There were 9 victims under one year of age, 75 victims between one and four
years of age, and 546 victims between five and fourteen years of age. These
figures correspond to 0.03%, 0.23%, and 1.6%, respectively. "The true
figures show that over 98% of people killed by firearms misuse are not young
children," Zelman observed.

So-called "gun safety devices" can have little or no effect on firearms
misuse. Linda Gorman, a researcher at the Independence Institute, recently
concluded that "most of the proposed Æsafe storageÆ measures can be defeated
by 15-year-olds." Devices such as mandatory trigger locks would not "have
much effect on suicides or homicides in older age groups," Gorman noted.

Darrell Huff, author of How to Lie With Statistics, wrote that "a
well-wrapped statistic is better than HitlerÆs Æbig lieÆ; it misleads, yet
it cannot be pinned on you." Zelman vowed his organization would "pin
these false stats on the people who try to fool the American public."

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Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2000 07:58:51 -0700
From: Scott Bergeson <[e-mail]>
Subject: FW: Cato Daily Dispatch - 3/8

BAD AIM ON GUNS

President Clinton earned a strong rebuke from Sen. Orrin Hatch (R - Utah),
chairman of a House-Senate negotiating committee on gun control, after a
much publicized Oval Office meeting where the president pressured Congress
to act on gun legislation, according to The New York Times.
(http://www.nytimes.com/yr/mo/day/news/washpol/clinton-guns.html) "We're
poles apart on what can or cannot be done," Sen. Hatch said. He accused the
White House of trying to ban gun shows and refused to convene his committee.

Clinton renewed his call for gun restriction yesterday by releasing a
Justice Department study which claims that juvenile homicides and suicides
decline when youths have less access to guns, according to The Washington
Post (http://washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A22040-2000Mar6.html) "This
study shows the single best thing we can do to reduce juvenile violent crime
is to keep guns out of the hands of young people," said Bruce Reed,
Clinton's top domestic adviser.

Administration officials said House Republicans and Democrats possibly will
reach an accord on gun shows, which would put heavy pressure on the Senate
to join. They noted that in yesterday's meeting, the House GOP leader on the
issue, Rep. Henry J. Hyde (R - Illinois), sounded more conciliatory than
Hatch. Referring to the leader of the House Democratic conferees, Rep. John
Conyers Jr. (D - Michigan), Hyde told reporters: "John Conyers and I are
going to work hard to see what accommodation we can reach. . . . We can make
progress outside a formal conference meeting."

The GOP is showing signs of caving in once again and reaching an
"accommodation" with President Clinton and his agenda. In "The Facts About
Gun Shows," (http://www.cato.org/dailys/01-10-00.html) Associate Policy
Analyst David B. Kopel demonstrates that there is no "gun show loophole."
"Despite what some media commentators have claimed," he writes, "existing
gun laws apply just as much to gun shows as they do to any other place where
guns are sold." Attempts to shut down gun shows are simply further attacks
on the First and Second Amendments. In "Fighting Back: Crime, Self-Defense,
and the Right to Carry a Handgun,"
(http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa-284es.html) Jeffrey R. Snyder disproves
many of the common misconceptions about handguns including the myth that
"more guns cause more violence."

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Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2000 21:25:42 -0700
From: Scott Bergeson <[e-mail]>
Subject: FW: GOUtah! Alert #51 - 9 March 2000

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GOUtah! Alert #51 - 9 March 2000

Today's Voice of Liberty:

"If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything."--Randy Travis,

2000 UTAH LEGISLATIVE SESSION IS OVER! MASSIVE CAMPAIGN TO VETO SB72 BEGINS!

The 2000 Utah Legislative Session has ended, with gun owners suffering
minimal damage to their gun rights, due in large part to your effective
involvement in the mainstream political process. We'll have a full recap
of all the bills and voting records shortly.

One dangerous gun bill was slipped through literally at the last second.
SB 72-4th Substitute will deny lifetime gun rights to any individuals with
a civil commitment for any mental health needs whatsoever, including those
who might have suffered from mental exhaustion or depression and need a few
days of in-patient rest and medication, and for those have been fully cured
of their mental health problems.

We ask all Utah gun rights activists to Call Gov. Mike Leavitt TODAY at
[phone] and ask him to VETO HB 72-S4.

Governor Mike Leavitt
210 State Capitol
Salt Lake City, UT 84114
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]
E-mail: [e-mail]

GOV. LEAVITT RANCH OUTING CORRALS BIG CAMPAIGN BUCKS, INCLUDING FROM THE NRA

An excerpt from the Deseret News, 8 March 2000

Written by By Bob Bernick Jr., Deseret News Political Editor

"Gov. Mike Leavitt is one of the most successful fund-raisers in Utah
political history. But who would pay $10,000 a person to meet with him and
half a dozen other GOP governors?

That answer is now public with new filings of one of Leavitt's political
action committees. The $10,000-per-person fund-raiser was a two-day event
last September at the Leavitt family ranch outside Loa, Wayne County.

Some are the usual donors to Utah campaigns: Novell, Kennecott and Union
Pacific. In fact, Kennecott and one of its subsidiaries each gave $10,000.

But there are some new kids on the block, too.

The National Rifle Association gave $10,000 for the exclusive Sept. 24, 25
weekend that included fly fishing, hunting and singing around the campfire.
The governor was not the NRA's favorite person last summer as he advocated
for a special session on gun violence and school safety. But after
Republicans in the Utah House declined the special session, Leavitt, while
denying he was backing away from the controversial issue, didn't openly
speak out in favor of gun control during the 2000 session.

That issue, Leavitt says, will go to the people now via a citizen
initiative petition."

(GOUtah! Note: It would seem, even in light of all the strident anti-gun
efforts of Gov. Leavitt over the last 7 years, that the NRA is still
willing to toss a $10,000.00 donation at his reelection campaign to insure
4 more years of the same gun-banning agenda.)

REP. DAVE JONES CALLS IT QUITS - BLAMES UTAH'S GUN RIGHTS ACTIVISTS AND THE GOP.

Rep. Dave Jones, Utah House Minority leader, threw in the towel on his
decade long-legislative career this week, leaving the State Legislature due
to his lack of success in promoting his strident anti-gun agenda. He stated
that he was disgusted with both the GOP and with the pro-gun forces in
Utah, saying in a farewell press conference that "Any kook with e-mail can
stampede the herd," at the Utah Legislature.

No hard feelings in our saying good-bye, Dave. You were a most worthy
adversary in the political struggle to protect gun rights. We're sure there
are plenty more anti-gun politicians where you came from.

As for the 'gun rights wranglers', we'll keep expanding our communications
network, training pro-gun delegates, registering and educating pro-gun
voters, working with the media, and in general 'riding herd' on our gun
rights. We aim to deliver the herd without losing a single gun right to the
anti-gun wolves or civil rights rustlers.

Get along, little Davy, back to the bunkhouse.

PROVO POLICE TO USE TAX-FUNDED FEDERAL GRANT TO BUY CITIZEN'S GUNS FOR DESTRUCTION

Provo police intend to purchase guns from Utah residents next month with a
$21,000 taxpayer-funded federal grant. Police hope the gun buyback will
collect and destroy some 300 guns. Provo police seized a total of 13 guns
from criminals last year. Only three homicides involving guns were reported
in Provo from 1996 to 1999.

The gun buyback is part of a $2.4 million program recently launched by the
U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) to take citizen's
firearms off the streets. Funding of Provo's buyback project was made
possible by the Provo City Public Housing Authority, which diverted $15,000
of a HUD grant toward the plan. HUD added an additional $6,500 contribution.

Police will give a maximum gift certificate of $50 per gun. Provo's Police
Department is scheduled to host its gun buyback from 9 a.m. to noon March
11, and from 5 to 8 p.m. March 16, at the Eldred Center, 270 W. 500 North
in Provo. Sellers do not have to be Provo residents but will have to show
identification.

If you'd like to offer your thoughts about this abuse of both taxpayer
funds and the Second Amendments, please contact:

Mayor Lewis K. Billings
Provo City Hall
PO Box 1849
Provo, Utah 84603
Phone [phone]
Email: [e-mail]

Chief Greg Cooper
Provo City Police Department
PO Box 1849
Provo, Utah 84603
Phone [phone]

Provo City website: http://www.provo.org

PEDIATRICIANS TO QUESTION KIDS ABOUT GUNS

Pediatricians want to talk to your children about guns in your home during
routine checkups, following new guidelines from the American Academy of
Pediatrics. Doctors want to question both parents and children early and
often on issues like guns in the home, family stress and discipline.

Parents should be the main focus until children reach school age and are
old enough to communicate with their doctors, and the practice should
continue through adolescence, according to updated guidelines in the March
issue of the academy journal Pediatrics.

In a policy statement in the January 1999 issue of Pediatrics, pediatricians
were urged to take an active role in preventing youth violence. Pediatricians
in Utah have been at the forefront of the anti-gun crusade for several years.

For More Information: American Academy of Pediatrics site:
http://www.aap.org.

DOCTORS VS. GUN OWNERS: WHO'S SAFER?

from the Benton County News Tribune 17 November, 1999.

Consider the following statistics:

Number of physicians in the U.S.: 700,000

Accidental deaths caused by physicians per year: 120,000

Accidental deaths per physician: 0.171

Number of gun owners in the U.S.: 80,000,000

Number of accidental gun deaths per year (all age groups): 1,500

Accidental deaths per gun owner: 0.0000188

Therefore, are doctors approximately 9,000 times more dangerous than gun owners?

GOUTAH! GUN RIGHTS (AND WRONGS) QUOTE-WATCH

"I think it's going to be interesting, I have a gut feeling most of
these guns will be guns that maybe weren't operable. Is it a good idea?
Yeah. I think if a person doesn't feel comfortable with a gun in their
home, they ought to turn it in. But I think it will be interesting to see
what kinds of guns people turn in. Are we going to see any major assault
rifles? I don't know. Actually, I'm just dying to see the first one because
I don't know what to expect."

- -- Provo Police Sgt. Lee Upchurch, assigned to oversee the gun buyback
program for the Provo City police, as quoted in the Deseret News.

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