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Subject: port-charles-digest V1 #29
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port-charles-digest Thursday, March 5 1998 Volume 01 : Number 029
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Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 17:10:10 -0800
From: tvplist@ix.netcom.com
Subject: GH/PC: Sonny/Brenda and (gag me!!!) Miguel
julie wrote>> did i think sonny was good for brenda? well, i don't
think a mobster in general is good for ANYONE in his life--occupational
hazards being what they are. but i did think s&b had something. they
definitely had that spark that made them fun to watch. but then...
they threw lily into the mix. <shudder>>>>
no no NO!!...BIGGER SHUDDER....remember mr menudo himself, the hair
flipping Miguel???? Now THAT guy set my teeth on edge. I remember
thinking GH had hit an all time low during his tenure.
Now regarding Brenda and her various love interests--I thought she and
Sonny had incredible chemistry, but I think he'd exude charisma if
paired with a troll. The guy could "act", plain and simple. I'd like to
see him come back if only to play opposite Luke. They were truly equals.
karen
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Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 17:40:08 -0500
From: Amy Schatz <starbuck@csrlink.net>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: Sonny/Brenda and (gag me!!!) Miguel
>At 05:10 PM 3/3/98 -0800, tvplist@ix.netcom.com wrote:
>julie wrote>> did i think sonny was good for brenda? well, i don't
>think a mobster in general is good for ANYONE in his life--occupational
>hazards being what they are. but i did think s&b had something. they
>definitely had that spark that made them fun to watch. but then...
>they threw lily into the mix. <shudder>>>>
>
>no no NO!!...BIGGER SHUDDER....remember mr menudo himself, the hair
>flipping Miguel???? Now THAT guy set my teeth on edge. I remember
>thinking GH had hit an all time low during his tenure.
LOL!!! Yeah, he was truly annoying. And that whole thing with him and
Brenda made her look *so* bad. My sister, to this day, does this thing
where she'll flip her hair over to one side, get a glazed look in her eyes,
and say, "Lily..." in that Miguel accent. Too funny. :-)
Amy
"Thou knowest tonight, and wilt know tomorrow
This mark of my shame, this seal of my sorrow."
Samuel Taylor Coleridge, "Christabel"
Visit my homepage: http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/asimov/114/index.html
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and more!!
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Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 19:57:49 -0800
From: tvplist@ix.netcom.com
Subject: Re: GH/PC: Sonny/Brenda and (gag me!!!) Miguel
amy wrote>> My sister, to this day, does this thing
where she'll flip her hair over to one side, get a glazed look in her
eyes, and say, "Lily..." in that Miguel accent. Too funny. :-)>>
Ah yes...I can hear that little clipped "Leelee, Leelee" now. No loss
when he left to go on "tour"...
karen
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Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 06:59:01 PST
From: "Julie Saker" <jesaker@hotmail.com>
Subject: GH/PC: Re: Sonny/Brenda and (gag me!!!) Miguel
karen wrote:
>no no NO!!...BIGGER SHUDDER....remember mr menudo himself, the hair
>flipping Miguel???? Now THAT guy set my teeth on edge. I remember
>thinking GH had hit an all time low during his tenure.
EEEEEEEEEEWWWWW! you are so right on that one. about the only thing i
can say about miguel, is that he and lily TRULY deserved each other!
>Now regarding Brenda and her various love interests--I thought she
>and Sonny had incredible chemistry, but I think he'd exude charisma
>if paired with a troll. The guy could "act", plain and simple. I'd
>like to see him come back if only to play opposite Luke. They were
>truly equals.
true, true. and i loved him with robin and stone, and jason. i
DEFINITELY liked him much better than brenda, even back when brenda used
to be a character i could stomach for more than five seconds at a time.
incidentally, taiyin...yes, i actually DID watch the brenda/jax
proposal, although i COMPLETELY understand the ff urge! but truly, it
was great comic relief! (and REALLY good target practice, too, when
brenda started the bit about only ever being happy when she was with
jax. i'm getting REALLY good at nailing her right between the eyes with
all SORTS of objects. tv guide is particulary aerodynamic.)
julie
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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 19:00:41 -0800
From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
Subject: GH/PC: The Ghost of Stone
Wow.
That was impressive.
I loved that Robin mentioned Stone today to Mac and Felicia.
As stupid as parts of this are (not even a MENTION of Kevin and
Lucy?!??!?!?), that was cool.
Taiyin
"What did I do before I had you?"
- --"You were lost and confused."
-- Lucy and Kevin
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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 21:31:18 -0600
From: "Lydia Salaiz" <lsalaiz@intplsrv.net>
Subject: GH/PC: GH: Kevin & Lucy
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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 22:01:06 -0800
From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: GH: Kevin & Lucy
At 09:31 PM 3/4/98 -0600, Lydia Salaiz wrote:
>>>>
<excerpt>Taiyin wrote that there was no mention of Kevin or Lucy, I just
finished watching GH and Kevin and Lucy sent Mac and Felicia an empty box
as a present with a note attached. I can't remember everything in the
note, but Mac did say that Kevin was his best friend. Even Felicia
mentioned Kevin's name.
</excerpt><<<<<<<<
Oops. You're right. I spoke too soon. I hadn't seen the last five
minutes yet.
I'm happy now that I've seen it.
Taiyin
"What did I do before I had you?"
- --"You were lost and confused."
-- Lucy and Kevin
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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 22:03:39 -0800
From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
Subject: GH/PC: Engagement Party
They sure shoveled it on today, didn't they?
It was kind of hard to keep a straight face through the round after round
after round of "thank you for restoring my faith in humanity" stuff. Yikes.
I do wish they'd get on with this. <sigh>
Taiyin
"What did I do before I had you?"
- --"You were lost and confused."
-- Lucy and Kevin
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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 05:22:15 -0800
From: "Fred & Rickie Yopp" <yopp@rightathome.com>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: GH: Kevin & Lucy
What was the empty box suppose to represent? Did I miss something? I
really hope Mac and Felicia end up getting married. I think they are great
together.
- ----------
> From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
> To: Port Charles/General Hospital <port-charles@xmission.com>
> Subject: Re: GH/PC: GH: Kevin & Lucy
> Date: Thursday, March 05, 1998 10:01 PM
>
> At 09:31 PM 3/4/98 -0600, Lydia Salaiz wrote:
>
> >>>>
>
> <excerpt>Taiyin wrote that there was no mention of Kevin or Lucy, I just
> finished watching GH and Kevin and Lucy sent Mac and Felicia an empty box
> as a present with a note attached. I can't remember everything in the
> note, but Mac did say that Kevin was his best friend. Even Felicia
> mentioned Kevin's name.
>
>
>
> </excerpt><<<<<<<<
>
>
> Oops. You're right. I spoke too soon. I hadn't seen the last five
> minutes yet.
>
>
> I'm happy now that I've seen it.
>
>
> Taiyin
>
> "What did I do before I had you?"
>
> --"You were lost and confused."
>
> -- Lucy and Kevin
>
> -
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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 06:36:17 PST
From: "Julie Saker" <jesaker@hotmail.com>
Subject: GH/PC: Re: Engagement Party
first things first...
Happy Birthday Taiyin! :)
now back to our regularly scheduled program:
taiyin wrote:
>They sure shoveled it on today, didn't they?
>
>It was kind of hard to keep a straight face through the round after
>round after round of "thank you for restoring my faith in humanity"
>stuff. Yikes.
yeah...what was UP with that? i mean, they're getting MARRIED, not
giving birth to the messiah or anything. i think these people in port
charles need to get out more! :)
i agree though...i did think it was so sweet that robin mentioned stone.
(except, was the poor guy doing ANYTHING but matchmaking on his
deathbed? "sonny and brenda will get together," "felicia and mac will
get together"...well, he's 0 for 1 so far, with the jury still out on
#2!)
"Fred & Rickie Yopp" wrote:
>What was the empty box suppose to represent? Did I miss something?
somebody with a better memory will have to help me out on this one. the
note said something to the effect of, "nothing we could give you could
mean as much as you two getting married means to us," or something
similar to that sentiment.
>I really hope Mac and Felicia end up getting married. I think they
>are great together.
is anybody else getting the feeling, after yesterday's excess
(ESPECIALLY the robin/stone thing) that they may end up being
guilt-tripped into getting married??? well, not exactly, because that
would be pretty pathetic. but guilt-tripped into examining their true
feelings, and subsequently realizing they really DO want to get married.
because they certainly were laying it on a little thick yesterday...
julie
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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:34:40 -0500
From: Danielle Graham <DGraham@bn.com>
Subject: GH/PC: FW: GH
> ----------
> From: Danielle Graham
> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 1998 10:31 AM
> To: 'portcharles@xmission.com'
> Subject: GH
> Sensitivity: Private
>
> yeah, puh-lease already w/Felicia & Mac we're only friends. Did anyone
> catch the look Felicia threw @Mac when he read the card from Lucy &
> Kevin, when he said, that's why "he's" my best friend? What was the
> deal w/that??? I also think they will get married & "act" like neither
> one of them wanted to do it. Someone in the town will have to mention
> them getting married to little Maxi....also I can't wait to see the
> fallout from Lucky finding out about dad raping mom years ago! It's
> been way too long for this to be addressed by TPTB. Finally, something
> more for Tony Geary to sink his teeth in......gotta love Luke!
>
>
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Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 07:35:53 -0800
From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: Re: Engagement Party
At 06:36 AM 3/5/98 PST, Julie Saker wrote:
>
>Happy Birthday Taiyin! :)
Thank you, Julie.
>yeah...what was UP with that? i mean, they're getting MARRIED, not
>giving birth to the messiah or anything. i think these people in port
>charles need to get out more! :)
LOL!! No kidding. A little bit of "Oh, it's so sweet you two found each
other again" is one thing, but damn, they were really pouring it on
yesterday. The guests needed hip waders. Freakish.
>i agree though...i did think it was so sweet that robin mentioned stone.
>(except, was the poor guy doing ANYTHING but matchmaking on his
>deathbed? "sonny and brenda will get together," "felicia and mac will
>get together"...well, he's 0 for 1 so far, with the jury still out on
>#2!)
That did seem a little strange, in actuality. I'm just happy anytime there
is any real acknowledgment of history.
>somebody with a better memory will have to help me out on this one. the
>note said something to the effect of, "nothing we could give you could
>mean as much as you two getting married means to us," or something
>similar to that sentiment.
Nope, that's what it said all right. The box wasn't actually empty, we
just didn't see what was in it. I was happy to see they did at least
RECOGNIZE K&L's absence and Lucy being in GH.
>is anybody else getting the feeling, after yesterday's excess
>(ESPECIALLY the robin/stone thing) that they may end up being
>guilt-tripped into getting married??? well, not exactly, because that
>would be pretty pathetic. but guilt-tripped into examining their true
>feelings, and subsequently realizing they really DO want to get married.
Could me. Mostly it looked like they were realizing exactly why they
WOULDN'T ever actually get married.
I don't know, I just want some progress here...
Taiyin
"What did I do before I had you?"
- --"You were lost and confused."
-- Lucy and Kevin
- -
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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 11:23:01 -0500
From: Amy Schatz <starbuck@csrlink.net>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: Engagement Party
>At 10:03 PM 3/5/98 -0800, you wrote:
>They sure shoveled it on today, didn't they?
>It was kind of hard to keep a straight face through the round after round
>after round of "thank you for restoring my faith in humanity" stuff. Yikes.
No kidding!! My God, I think I went into sugar shock from all that
over-the-top sweetness...
The only saving grace was the Liz and Lucky stuff. :) And today looks like
another good L&L day! :D
>I do wish they'd get on with this. <sigh>
I wish they'd get on with it, or kill us all quickly. <g> It's becoming
painful...
And Tess looking menacingly at Jax is not "moving the story forward" in my
book.
Amy
"Thou knowest tonight, and wilt know tomorrow
This mark of my shame, this seal of my sorrow."
Samuel Taylor Coleridge, "Christabel"
Visit my homepage: http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/asimov/114/hello.html
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and more!!
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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 11:25:50 -0500
From: Amy Schatz <starbuck@csrlink.net>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: FW: GH
>At 10:34 AM 3/5/98 -0500, you wrote:
>> yeah, puh-lease already w/Felicia & Mac we're only friends.
It's tired by now...we all know that they want to be more than friends.
Just let them admit it.
> Did anyone
>> catch the look Felicia threw @Mac when he read the card from Lucy &
>> Kevin, when he said, that's why "he's" my best friend? What was the
>> deal w/that???
I wanted to ask about that, too. I did not get that look AT ALL. It's
like she thought Mac either wasn't Kevin's best friend, or she thought that
Mac, acting as Jimmy, shouldn't have known that. Or...something else that
I cannot fathom. Can anyone shed some light?
Amy
"Thou knowest tonight, and wilt know tomorrow
This mark of my shame, this seal of my sorrow."
Samuel Taylor Coleridge, "Christabel"
Visit my homepage: http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/asimov/114/hello.html
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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:40:29 -0500
From: Danielle Graham <DGraham@bn.com>
Subject: GH/PC: GH ENGAGEMENT
> Did anyone
>> catch the look Felicia threw @Mac when he read the card from Lucy &
>> Kevin, when he said, that's why "he's" my best friend? What was the
>> deal w/that???
I wanted to ask about that, too. I did not get that look AT ALL. It's
like she thought Mac either wasn't Kevin's best friend, or she thought
that
Mac, acting as Jimmy, shouldn't have known that. Or...something else
that
I cannot fathom.
Maybe, Felicia was just thinking that Mac would say that Kevin was his
bestfriend, but "James" would think she was, since he's really
affectionate. Maybe the look was given to alert him that perhaps Tess
was looking. It's a thought!.....Also, agree the best part was with
Lucky & Liz. But isn't it amazing how he did a complete 360 degree turn
on her! He's now like....Sarah, who? I don't blame him on that one. And
how cute are they together?
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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 11:49:46 -0500
From: Amy Schatz <starbuck@csrlink.net>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: GH ENGAGEMENT
>At 11:40 AM 3/5/98 -0500, you wrote:
>I wanted to ask about that, too. I did not get that look AT ALL. It's
>like she thought Mac either wasn't Kevin's best friend, or she thought
>that
>Mac, acting as Jimmy, shouldn't have known that. Or...something else
>that
>I cannot fathom.
>
>Maybe, Felicia was just thinking that Mac would say that Kevin was his
>bestfriend, but "James" would think she was, since he's really
>affectionate. Maybe the look was given to alert him that perhaps Tess
>was looking. It's a thought!.....
That's all I could come up with. But they didn't really make it clear
enough. I mean, if after Mac said that, they had cut to a shot of Tess
looking as nasty as she can muster, then cut back to Felicia's weird look,
I could have seen it. This way it's like they cut off an extra line or
something.
>Also, agree the best part was with
>Lucky & Liz. But isn't it amazing how he did a complete 360 degree turn
>on her!
I know!! He's finally woken up!! :D
> He's now like....Sarah, who? I don't blame him on that one.
Me, either. And he hardly even looks at Sarah anymore when they're
together. Too cute. :D
> And how cute are they together?
Beyond cute. My sister wants them to get married right now. <G>
Amy
"Thou knowest tonight, and wilt know tomorrow
This mark of my shame, this seal of my sorrow."
Samuel Taylor Coleridge, "Christabel"
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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:02:37 -0500
From: Danielle Graham <DGraham@bn.com>
Subject: GH/PC: GH ENGAGEMENT PARTY
What's the deal w/Tony anyway? So, he slept with Carly who's his
stepdaughter. There's no blood relation there. And with that "do" he has
going? Out in the papers now, it's stating Michael gets kidnapped this
week. Gee, Tony just happens to go bonkers and declare he's leaving PC.
Little too obvious on that one. I guess we're s'posed to believe he's
gonna do it. Stranger things have happened before! Did anyone catch the
little glare Tony & Luke exchanged? They looked like they were going to
start laughing at any minute. Probably from the hoopla that Mac &
Felicia was doing the marriage bit for the entire town.
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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 09:04:52 -0800
From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: Engagement Party
At 11:23 AM 3/5/98 -0500, Amy Schatz wrote:
>
>No kidding!! My God, I think I went into sugar shock from all that
>over-the-top sweetness...
And it was coming from EVERYONE. I think Luke was about the only person
who wasn't gushing at them.
>The only saving grace was the Liz and Lucky stuff. :) And today looks like
>another good L&L day! :D
No kidding! I still can't get over how incredible a job they are both
doing with this. It's hard to reconcile this Lizzie witht he annoying,
smoking, wannabe twit who first arrived in town last summer. I'm glad,
though. There is just so much meat to this story and I'm really glad that
she is being able to prove she can handle it so well.
>I wish they'd get on with it, or kill us all quickly. <g> It's becoming
>painful...
Especially the less-than-successful attempts at comedy that get thrown in
there, too.
>And Tess looking menacingly at Jax is not "moving the story forward" in my
>book.
I missed that. I'm a little heavy-handed on my fast-forward button and
people/stories that annoy me are rarely spared.
Taiyin
"By all means, please, sacrifice me on the
altar of your amusement. It's the least I
can contribute to your evening." -- Kevin
<taiyin@taiyin.net> http://www.taiyin.net/
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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 09:09:02 -0800
From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: FW: GH
At 11:25 AM 3/5/98 -0500, Amy Schatz wrote:
>
>I wanted to ask about that, too. I did not get that look AT ALL. It's
>like she thought Mac either wasn't Kevin's best friend, or she thought that
>Mac, acting as Jimmy, shouldn't have known that. Or...something else that
>I cannot fathom. Can anyone shed some light?
Could've been guilt. I mean, lying to everyone is already not cool --
which they know (and which is EXACTLY the same thing that K&L got finished
doing). Maybe it's more a matter of "Geez, Lucy was on her death bed and
Kevin STILL went to all this trouble for some fake engagement because we
are lying to him. Ouch."
Probably not, but this storyinline is getting so tiresome that I have to
find my interest where ever I can get it. ;-)
Taiyin
"By all means, please, sacrifice me on the
altar of your amusement. It's the least I
can contribute to your evening." -- Kevin
<taiyin@taiyin.net> http://www.taiyin.net/
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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 12:31:59 -0500
From: Amy Schatz <starbuck@csrlink.net>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: Engagement Party
>At 09:04 AM 3/5/98 -0800, you wrote:
>>No kidding!! My God, I think I went into sugar shock from all that
>>over-the-top sweetness...
>
>And it was coming from EVERYONE. I think Luke was about the only person
>who wasn't gushing at them.
And thank God for that!! At least there was one person there whom I didn't
suspect of being a secret Hallmark agent. <g>
>>The only saving grace was the Liz and Lucky stuff. :) And today looks like
>>another good L&L day! :D
>
>No kidding! I still can't get over how incredible a job they are both
>doing with this.
Neither can I!! This is a far cry from Lucky's oh-so-dramatic gambling
storyline from yore.
> It's hard to reconcile this Lizzie witht he annoying,
>smoking, wannabe twit who first arrived in town last summer.
They've really changed her around - for the better. Cause I hated both Liz
and Sarah when they first arrived. Now I just hate Sarah. :-)
> I'm glad,
>though. There is just so much meat to this story and I'm really glad that
>she is being able to prove she can handle it so well.
They better be nominated for Emmy's!!! :D
>>I wish they'd get on with it, or kill us all quickly. <g> It's becoming
>>painful...
>
>Especially the less-than-successful attempts at comedy that get thrown in
>there, too.
LOL. I know...that's the most painful part, I think. :)
>>And Tess looking menacingly at Jax is not "moving the story forward" in my
>>book.
>
>I missed that. I'm a little heavy-handed on my fast-forward button and
>people/stories that annoy me are rarely spared.
Well, I had to suffer through it in real time. <g> And it was at the end,
when V is asking Jax about that company. And they zoom in on Jax, then he
gets blurry and they focus on Tess staring daggers at him.
Happy birthday, BTW!!! :D
Amy
"Thou knowest tonight, and wilt know tomorrow
This mark of my shame, this seal of my sorrow."
Samuel Taylor Coleridge, "Christabel"
Visit my homepage: http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/asimov/114/hello.html
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and more!!
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Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:47:50 -0500
From: Danielle Graham <DGraham@bn.com>
Subject: GH/PC: GH ENGAGEMENT PARTY
And thank God for that!! At least there was one person there whom I
didn't
suspect of being a secret Hallmark agent. <g>
Luke and Hallmark being mentioned in the same topic?
Neither can I!! This is a far cry from Lucky's oh-so-dramatic gambling
storyline from yore.
Since I just about forgot about the gambling storyline, I guess that
tells everyone how good that was.
, wannabe twit who first arrived in town last summer.
> It's hard to reconcile this Lizzie witht he annoying,
>smoking
They've really changed her around - for the better. Cause I hated both
Liz
and Sarah when they first arrived. Now I just hate Sarah. :-)
> I'm glad,
>though. There is just so much meat to this story and I'm really glad
that
>she is being able to prove she can handle it so well.
They better be nominated for Emmy's!!! :D
I think you're being a little premature on the Emmy status just yet!
Finally, Lucky is getting a girl! Did anyone buy the story of him going
on a date...did I doze off that day....with a girl & she cut her pizza
w/a fork & a knife! Lucky & Liz always did have the chemistry from day
one. I did however like the tough chick act she was trying to pull off.
>>And Tess looking menacingly at Jax is not "moving the story forward"
in my
>>book.
That cracked me up! 2 private detectives and an ex-cop know that Tess
is the "bad girl" yet, no one keeps a close eye on her? We all saw that
one across the room. V can tap a public phone in seconds, get
fingerprints off a glass & conclude their not Mac's in a dark hallway,
but put the girl right in front of her face...hmmm
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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 11:38:57 PST
From: "Julie Saker" <jesaker@hotmail.com>
Subject: GH/PC: L&L rape article (old spoiler included)
apparently gh has hit the mainstream! this was in the ny post--an
article about the revisiting of the luke and laura rape. a slight
spoiler, which has already been posted here, is included, so...
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julie
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THE SAD TRUTH: IT WAS RAPE!
By JOSEF ADALIAN
THE producers of "General Hospital" are about to take a
sledgehammer to the popular myths surrounding the storybook
romance of daytime's most famous couple: Luke and Laura.
Starting tomorrow, the long-running ABC soap will begin a
multiweek storyline in which young Lucky Spencer (Jonathan
Jackson) finds out that his father Luke (Anthony Geary) raped his
mother Laura (Genie Francis) months before the two became
lovers.
Lucky's discovery will allow "GH" to revisit the sordid origins of
Luke and Laura's relationship - details which are
well-remembered by the soap's hard-core fans, but which have
been virtually ignored by the soap for nearly 20 years. Geary says
he was shocked when the "GH" writers told him about the new
storyline.
"My first reaction was that it was a big can of worms that could
eat us alive," Geary remembers. "I was terrified, basically."
Casual viewers who know of Luke and Laura only from the
couple's high-rated 1982 wedding might be shocked when they
find out the real story behind the romance.
Back in 1979, Luke Spencer and Laura Baldwin were merely
good pals who worked together at Luke's Campus Disco. Laura
was married, but the sexual tension between the 17-year-old
Laura and the older Luke was clear.
Luke finally acted on his attraction to Laura one late night in
October 1979, when Laura discovered him crying at the Campus
Disco's bar. Worried that he's about to be killed by mobster
Frank Smith, Luke admits his love for Laura.
"It's like some kind of sickness, eating me up - and I can't
concentrate on anything. And in my business, that's dangerous,
baby," Luke told Laura.
After telling Laura that he's constantly dreaming about "holding
you in my arms and making love to you," Luke then forces her to
dance with him as Herb Alpert's "Rise" plays in the background.
Laura pleads with Luke to let her go home, but instead, he rapes
her (though viewers never see the act itself.)
Rather than turn Luke in to the police, Laura fell in love with her
attacker - and married him three years later. While the rape has
been mentioned since then, "GH" producers tended to portray the
incident as a "seduction" instead of what it really was: rape.
"They probably downplayed it," Pat Fili-Krushel, president of
ABC Daytime, told The Post yesterday. "But what they were
trying to avoid was sending a message that women fall in love
with their rapists."
Now, ABC and "GH" are trying to send another message: Rape
is rape - and it's always bad.
"It was not acceptable then, no matter what the town said or the
press said," says "GH" executive producer Wendy Riche, who
was not with the show during the original Luke and Laura
storyline.
Still, "We didn't approach it as "let's make amends'," Riche adds.
"We didn't feel guilty or felt like we had to."
The new storyline begins tomorrow when Lucky's half-brother
tells him Luke raped their mother, Laura. Lucky tries to find out
whether the charge is true - and next Friday, March 13, Lucky
will confront Luke with the rape accusation. On Monday, March
16, Luke will explain what happened, delivering an emotional
five-minute monologue. Since Francis is not currently on the
show, Laura will not be involved in the plot.
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me again. i really hope they do an extended flashback of
the original scene--i've always wanted to see it...this
could be my chance! hope they do...
julie
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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 11:40:31 -0800
From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: L&L rape article (old spoiler included)
At 11:38 AM 3/5/98 PST, Julie Saker wrote:
>will confront Luke with the rape accusation. On Monday, March
>16, Luke will explain what happened, delivering an emotional
>five-minute monologue. Since Francis is not currently on the
>show, Laura will not be involved in the plot.
Oh man, it kills me that Genie isn't here for this. It's absolutely
painful to have all this go down without her. Geez.
Yesterday when Lucky was talking to Liz about the fact that because of her
he now has a better understanding of what his mother went through -- he
should have been able to have that conversation with Laura, too. I think
it's relaly cool that the show is giving Genie this kind of leeway, but I
really, really, REALLY wish she'd come back. At least part time for this
storyline.
>me again. i really hope they do an extended flashback of
>the original scene--i've always wanted to see it...this
>could be my chance! hope they do...
"Luke and Laura: Lovers on the Run" tape series released by ABC has this on
it. I have volume 2 (though I haven't watched it yet, so I don't know what
is exactly on each volume).
Taiyin
"By all means, please, sacrifice me on the
altar of your amusement. It's the least I
can contribute to your evening." -- Kevin
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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 12:17:17 PST
From: "Julie Saker" <jesaker@hotmail.com>
Subject: GH/PC: Re: GENIE, COME BACK!!!!!
taiyin wrote:
>Oh man, it kills me that Genie isn't here for this. It's absolutely
>painful to have all this go down without her. Geez.
>
>Yesterday when Lucky was talking to Liz about the fact that because
>of her he now has a better understanding of what his mother went
>through -- he should have been able to have that conversation with
>Laura, too. I think it's relaly cool that the show is giving Genie
>this kind of leeway, but I really, really, REALLY wish she'd come
>back. At least part time for this storyline.
i TOTALLY agree!
a question--is is at ALL within the realm of possibility that she IS
coming back (or is already back) and tptb are just managing to keep a
VERY tight lid on that fact to surprise everyone? i know in this day of
rampant spoilers, almost NOTHING stays a secret...so would it be even
possible to do it that way if tptb wanted to? because can you imagine
how unbelievably cool it would be to just have her SHOW UP one of these
days?
i know, not likely. tptb would want to milk that news for all it was
worth, for publicity and stuff. but still...wouldn't it be cool?
just call me pollyanna...
julie
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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 12:26:48 PST
From: "Julie Saker" <jesaker@hotmail.com>
Subject: GH/PC: Re: Engagement Party
amy wrote:
>I wish they'd get on with it, or kill us all quickly. <g> It's
>becoming painful...
>
>And Tess looking menacingly at Jax is not "moving the story forward"
>in my book.
LOL! now, a question...mr. hardy boy himself mac scorpio was the FIRST
to jump to a completely LUDICROUS conclusion, that tess was planning to
take out jason, based on NOTHING whatsoever. but after her reaction to
his friendliness towards jax, which seemed to me to be a little
excessive, he wasn't the LEAST bit suspicious of THAT???
sheesh. where's v when you need her...they really DO need to get things
going. although, with a wedding date of april 18, at least we know
they'll have to wrap it up by then! :)
hey, wouldn't it be cute if mac and felicia and kevin and lucy had a
double wedding? (i know, i know...i can hear taiyin now, screaming that
after ALL they've been through, kevin and lucy deserve to have the
wedding of our...um, i mean THEIR...dreams ALL TO THEMSELVES. and i do
agree...but i STILL think it would be cute! and at least it would set
a date! :)
julie
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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 12:44:55 PST
From: "Julie Saker" <jesaker@hotmail.com>
Subject: GH/PC: oh thank GOD...(robin spoilers!)
all i can say is it's about TIME they gave this girl something to do!
anyway, spoilers below...
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>These came from Soap Opera Weekly Magazine, which I got in the mail
>yesterday (I subscribe to it and Soap Opera Digest)
>
>Coming next week:
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>1. Katherine blasts Stefan for his treatment of Robin.
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>2. Helena confronts Robin!!
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>And coming up the week after next:
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>Robin makes a discovery that puts her in jeopardy!!
THANK GOD!!! she finally gets to do something besides preach! and if
we can pull out some of that scorpio/cassadine history...she could
actually be watchable again! (who knows, maybe they even had a REASON
for mentioning that she can shoot the other day!)
god i miss robert and anna. they could keep laura gone FOREVER if i
could have either of THEM back...
julie
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Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 13:03:56 PST
From: "Julie Saker" <jesaker@hotmail.com>
Subject: GH/PC: more gh spoilers!
again from pc online...some pretty good stuff coming up!
julie
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WEEK OF MARCH 9-13, 1998
courtesy of Soap Opera Weekly, Soap Opera Update, Soap Opera News,
Soap Opera Magazine and other sources!
Important Stuff:
MONDAY: Lucky digs into Nikolas' accusations ò Bobbie blames Carly for
Michael's kidnapping
TUESDAY: ò Edward finds himself at the center of the kidnapping
investigation ò Lucky uncovers disturbing old documents at General
Hospital
WEDNESDAY: ò Amy finds Alan passed out with a bottle of pills
THURSDAY: ò Taggert convinces Jason to go to extremes ò Katherine throws
a shower for Felicia
FRIDAY: ò Brenda makes a new attempt to win back Jax ò Luke finds Lucky
packing
More Stuff:
Katherine blasts Stefan for his treatment of Robin.
Lucky looks into Nikolas' accusations about the Spencer family's
history, and doesn't like what he finds.
Brenda continues her campaign to win back Jax, despite his insistence
that it won't work.
When Amy catches Alan red-handed, he tries to blame a recent event for
his long-standing problem.
Felicia uses what should be a happy occasion to break disappointing
news.
Helena confronts Robin.
Audrey continues to distance herself from Liz, as Liz and Lucky realize
the severity of what's happening to Liz.
Jason agrees to cooperate with the police.
Tess puts "James" to the test as Mac and Felicia realize who Tess'
target really is.
The FOLLOWING week:
Stefan rocks Nikolas with news about Robin (on March 16)
Edward makes a surprise TV appearance (on March 17)
Luke gives Nikolas a warning
Brenda plans a romantic getaway for herself and Jax
Robin makes a discovery that puts her in jeopardy
Sonny Returns to GH for Primetime Special
Maurice Benard has returned to the set to tape scenes for the General
Hospital 35th Anniversary Primetime Special that will air on April 2nd.
The special will also feature new segments taped by Genie
Francis (Laura), who remains on maternity leave. Other former stars
participating in the anniversary show include Finola Hughes (ex-Anna),
Rena Sofer (ex-Lois), Jack Wagner (ex-Frisco) and John Stamos.
More highlights: Anthony Geary (Luke) will serve as host for the
hour-long retrospective and appears in an opening sketch with actress
Kathy Kinney (Mimi, The Drew Carey Show). Interviews with current
cast members will include Geary, Genie, Jacklyn Zeman (Bobbie), Brad
Maule (Tony), Stuart Damon (Alan), and Leslie Charleson (Monica). Pairs
of popular actors introducing the show's various decades will include
Zeman and Kin Shriner (Scotty), Kimberly McCullough (Robin) and John J.
York (Mac) and Vanessa Marcil (Brenda) and Ingo Rademacher (Jax).
There will be a humorous song, written and performed by Maule, which
viewers will be treated to during the special's closing credits. Also
memorable clips from favorite GH episodes, past and present.
Lucky Uncovers Disturbing Hospital Records
Nikolas' accusations about Luke's past with Laura hit Lucky hard. He
attacks Nikolas' words with the force of a true Spencer. Believing
there's a possibility that the information was wrong, Nikolas questions
Stefan about the facts. Stefan assures him that it is all true, but
warns Nikolas that Luke will retaliate if he learns where Lucky got the
scoop.
Knowing of Scott's relationship with his mother before Luke came into
the picture, Lucky turns to him for answers, but finds him
uncooperative. Later the GH records department confirms Lucky's fears
when he discovers some disturbing documents. Meanwhile, Lucky continues
to be Liz's biggest support as she deals with the repercussions of her
rape. Dealing with her problems serves to emphasize the pain and
humiliation of what she went through.
ABOUT THE KIDNAPPING: Jason and Carly are staggered to learn that baby
Michael has been kidnapped. Jason wants to handle the situation his own
way, but both Taggert and Garcia have plans of their own. They suggest
that Jason and Carly keep quiet about the situation, but Carly insists
on calling Bobbie, who throws it back in Carly's face that she is the
cause of her baby being in danger. Meanwhile, the authorities believe a
Quartermaine is the prime suspect.
Brenda Will Do Anything to Win Back Jax
Brenda is trying to woo Jax the way he wooed her but it's not really
Brenda, explains head writer Robert Guza, Jr. She gives him a set of
adventure books and gets him his favorite Irish oysters. [oh GAG!!! i'm
sorry, i COULDN'T let that pass without comment...julie] Jax enjoys
being on the receiving end, but he doesn't reciprocate Brenda's romantic
overtures. "The central issue is that Brenda has chosen Sonny," Guza
continues. "She has to get past Sonny, and deep down they both know that
Jax is wildly amused and having a great time with all of these
extravagant gestures and fun stuff, but he still knows that wall between
them has not been dealt with."
Although Jax knows Brenda loves him - and he also knows he loves her -
he doesn't know if they will wind up together. [obviously he hasn't
been reading any of guza's numerous interviews. -j ] Guza notes that
Jax is "the huge risk taker - that's the big gamble. He loves the game
above everything else. He's the corporate raider who buys up all these
companies and sells them off because there is no challenge in running
them. The challenge is in the conquest. This is the one challenge he
can't be sure he will win." [yawn]
The uncertainty of their future will come into even stronger focus
shortly when a dramatic turn of events stops being humorous and becomes
life-and-death. "In the course of this mini-arc," Guza says, "Brenda has
to deal with a situation in which she has to come to terms with her
horrible anger against Sonny."
News and Notes
Nancy Lee Grahn (Alexis) welcomed her first child, a girl, Kate, in Los
Angeles early the morning of Feb. 24. Mom and baby are doing fine. Among
the actors who have auditioned for the role of Jerry, Jax's
brother, are Don McVicar, who is on the recurring status as Clarke on
B&B, and Michael Corbett, ex-Michael, Ryan's Hope.
SPRING PREVIEW
The effects of Liz's rape continue to be far reaching. And even though
there will be some resolution in the "whodunit" aspect, much more
important are the psychological ramifications of the unfolding events
on people such as Lucky, who finds himself in the throes of reconciling
himself with Luke's deceit. In his anger and devastation, Lucky winds up
aligning himself with Luke's most dangerous adversary. Luke is also
furious and goes after Stefan and Nikolas. The whole melee drives a
further wedge between Bobbie and Luke. Look for everything to come to a
head at a huge social event at Wyndemere.
Everyone is a suspect in Michael's kidnapping, but once the guilty party
is discovered, according to Guza, "The punishment isn't quite what was
anticipated for the guilty party, so Carly will take the law into her
own hands."
Carly makes another bold move when, for the first time in her life, she
begins to understand what it feels like to be secure. As she gets closer
to her son and knows she can depend on Jason, in typical Carly
fashion, she goes a little overboard and jeopardizes that security. At
the same time, Carly's behavior brings out the fighter in Robin that
we've so rarely seen.
Brenda continues her campaign to win Jax back despite his resistance,
but the situation takes a much more serious turn when she and Jason are
thrown together in a life-or-death situation, propelling Brenda
back to what happened at the altar with Sonny. Guza says the
relationship between Brenda and Jax reaches a climax, and adds that,
"The thing that's been between them all along comes between them for
one final time."
Tess and company finally make their move on their target - Jax - but,
"The person who gets it is not the person we think is going to get it,"
says Guza. "And the person behind it is not who we think is behind it."
A new character will be introduced following the attempt on Jax's life.
Through all of this, Mac and Felicia are stuck together.
Tony continues to battle the demons that took him over when B.J. died.
Alan, too, is waging war with his own demons, and Taggert pursues him
with a vengence in order to get to Jason. When Alan's drug supply begins
to dry up, desperation takes over. Ultimately, Alan's problem claims
other victims, including people he cares about very deeply - people who
are going to suffer as a result.
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