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From: "Fred & Rickie Yopp" <yopp@rightathome.com>
Subject: GH/PC: Matt/Ellen/Grace
Date: 01 Mar 1998 21:35:07 -0800
Who would everyone like to see Matt with? I can't believe he will hook up
with Ellen. Is that her name,the doctor who is over the interns? Matt and
Grace are great together. Would like to see Scotty, Kevin and Luke
together trying to help Matt. Wouldn't they be great together? Maybe even
Mac could get involved and they could all be in drag. What a riot that
would be.
On General Hospital, what is the deal with Mac and why was he kidnapped?
Stupid story line don't you think. Hope Brenda and Jax's get together
soon. They're great together.
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From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
Subject: GH/PC: ADMIN: List Down
Date: 02 Mar 1998 12:08:35 -0800
As far as I can tell, the lists have been up and down since the end of the
weekend. Please do not post "test" messages to the list.
Unfortunately, xmission.com is closed today due to weather conditions, so
we are going to have to wait for them to stabilize their system.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
Taiyin
"By all means, please, sacrifice me on the
altar of your amusement. It's the least I
can contribute to your evening." -- Kevin
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From: Shele <taiyin@xmission.com>
Subject: GH/PC: GH - SOD awards details?!
Date: 03 Mar 1998 18:45:15 -0800
Hi to all!!!
I was just wondering if anyone on this list would be so kind as to
give some details in regards to Vanessa Marcil, Ingo & Tyler on the SOD
awards (as to what they were wearing, how V & I were when they presented,
when they won, etc....) I missed the awards because I was travelling out of
town & forgot to set my VCR!!!! Thanks in advance!!!!!!!
Victoria :)
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From: "Fred & Rickie Yopp" <yopp@rightathome.com>
Subject: GH/PC: general hospital/portcharles
Date: 02 Mar 1998 19:00:45 -0800
Does anyone know how Rubys health is. When I seen her a couple of days
ago, she looked like she could hardly work and breathing was hard for her.
She is such a great actress, hope her health is okay.
I sincerely hope Jason raises Micheal don't you? I can't imagine AJ being
a dad and letting the Q's tell him what to do. What will happen to Alan
when is caught popping pills. Will he admit he is addicted. Could be a
good story line.
On Port Charles, are going to learn more about Chris's background. He is
so shady. Who is he having to pay money to and why? Hope Matt and Grace
get together instead of ELLEN!!
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From: "Julie Saker" <jesaker@hotmail.com>
Subject: GH/PC: Re: Matt/Ellen/Grace
Date: 03 Mar 1998 08:20:34 PST
>Who would everyone like to see Matt with? I can't believe he will
>hook up with Ellen. Is that her name,the doctor who is over the
>interns? Matt and Grace are great together.
oh my. i couldn't DISagree with you more, on almost all counts! :)
starting with this one. matt and grace do NOTHING for me. in fact,
grace in general does nothing for me. ellen, on the other hand, is
INTERESTING. plus, i think she has WAY more chemistry with matt than
grace does. could be just because tptb have developed ellen much more
than they have grace...but that's also probably a pretty good indication
that those two are the ones who will wind up together.
>Would like to see Scotty, Kevin and Luke together trying to help
>Matt. Wouldn't they be great together? Maybe even Mac could get
>involved and they could all be in drag. What a riot that would be.
well...maybe. i'd rather see matt, ellen, and mike though. i think
scotty and kevin have been through enough cloak and dagger stuff right
now, and have more important things to worry about than an intern they
barely know. and luke and mac, who are both similarly wrapped up in
their own stories right now, don't even KNOW the guy. yeah, i think
that crew could be good for a caper or two, but i don't think any of
them need that right now, nor do i think this is the right caper. mike,
however, has made it more than clear that he'd LOVE to help out, so i
hope they go that route. he's been collecting surrogate sons ever since
sonny left--so what's one more?
on a related story...is that chris PURE EVIL or what??? ok, it was one
thing (and one pretty nasty thing) to make matt fear for his life and
run him out of town to eliminate him as competition for the quartermaine
residency. but to now basically sign his execution order?!? i hope the
gunman gets the wrong intern. there is NO call for that level of hatred
from chris...
>On General Hospital, what is the deal with Mac and why was he
>kidnapped? Stupid story line don't you think.
don't know yet. someone is plotting to kill jax and frame mac, is all
i've been able to deduce thus far. it annoyed me at first, because it
was taking SUCH a long time to develop, and then when v was briefly
involved, it got interesting again (maybe just because i missed v!), but
now that she's gone again...<yawn>
>Hope Brenda and Jax's get together soon. They're great together.
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOKAY. <deep breath> HERE'S the one where i REALLY
disagree with you! was anyone ELSE alternating between hysterical
laughter and screaming at braindead to stop being such an idiot during
her proposal yesterday? i mean, come ON...what an IDIOT! i nearly
stood up and CHEERED when jax said it was "too late" for them to be
anything but friends. (NEARLY, because i KNOW, with guza penning the
words, that he didn't really mean it...<sigh>)
first of all, why would she think that now, after completely dropping
him for sonny, that jax would WANT her back--knowing full well that he
would always be second best. and secondly, why would she think her
self-described "best friend" would go along with this scheme to make
SUCH a major decision, on the spur of the moment, when she has just
barely gotten over a nervous breakdown induced by her LAST fiance???
(incidentally, if the breakdown IS over...that was the shortest recovery
I'VE ever seen. she had, what, ONE therapy session with gail???)
come on...this child isn't stable enough to pick out a COUCH, for god's
sake...let ALONE someone to spend the rest of her LIFE with!!!
obviously, i don't want them to put j&b back together EVER (if only
because jax, god-like creature that he is, deserves FAR better than what
brenda has become)...but if they DO pair them up again (okay, let's be
realistic, WHEN they do), i REALLY hope it isn't anytime soon. and i
mean at least a year down the road. ideally, after sonny has come back
for a guest stint, allowing brenda to get some MUCH-needed closure to
that relationship, which despite her claims of stability, she still
doesn't have. (witness her hostility to jason, for example)
okay, change of subject. i can get MUCH too involved in that one! :)
so, speaking of jason, what is WITH robin lately??? now, i used to like
her, but yesterday? GO CARLY!!! YOU TELL HER! "queen of angels"
indeed. what a sanctimonious, judgmental little thing she's getting to
be. and what's with this robin radar that jason seems to have,
appearing everytime she gets within ten feet of that bridge?
<sigh> guza, guza, guza...what have you done to robert and anna's
daughter? and WHY?
julie
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From: Amy Schatz <starbuck@csrlink.net>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: Re: Mac Storyline & Brenda/Jax
Date: 03 Mar 1998 11:56:30 -0500
>At 08:20 AM 3/3/98 PST, you wrote:
>>On General Hospital, what is the deal with Mac and why was he
>>kidnapped? Stupid story line don't you think.
>
>don't know yet. someone is plotting to kill jax and frame mac, is all
>i've been able to deduce thus far. it annoyed me at first, because it
>was taking SUCH a long time to develop,
It was taking *forever*!! And it still is. Geez...and it's so boring.
Until they get to a part where Jax is actually in danger, I have to stop
myself from falling asleep.
And if Tess can't even manage to keep Mac tied up, how are we supposed to
believe she's capable of an intricate assasination attempt? Please...
>>Hope Brenda and Jax's get together soon. They're great together.
>
>OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOKAY. <deep breath> HERE'S the one where i REALLY
>disagree with you!
And I have to disagree with you. :D I love Brenda and Jax. I detested
Sonny more than I will ever be able to explain. I thought he treated
Brenda really bad, and was not good for her at all. But that's just MHO. :-)
> was anyone ELSE alternating between hysterical
>laughter and screaming at braindead to stop being such an idiot during
>her proposal yesterday?
I do agree with this part (except for the 'braindead' comment:). It was
ridiculous of Brenda to ask JAx to marry her *at this time*. SHe hurt him
terribly. I don't know why she thought he'd just want to jump right back
in...
> i mean, come ON...what an IDIOT! i nearly
>stood up and CHEERED when jax said it was "too late" for them to be
>anything but friends. (NEARLY, because i KNOW, with guza penning the
>words, that he didn't really mean it...<sigh>)
I don't understand something. Do you actually think that Sonny was better
for Brenda than Jax? Or do you just hate Brenda? <g>
>first of all, why would she think that now, after completely dropping
>him for sonny, that jax would WANT her back--knowing full well that he
>would always be second best.
Very true. I'm sure that's exactly what Jax is thinking. He probably
thinks Brenda's just bored or something, and wants to get back with him for
fun. And like you say later on (I snipped it to save space:), Jax is right
not to agree so soon after Brenda's mental problems.
>(incidentally, if the breakdown IS over...that was the shortest recovery
>I'VE ever seen. she had, what, ONE therapy session with gail???)
LOL. That's TV for you. It's like her miraculous two week recovery from a
months long dependency on pain medication. ;-) I wish we could see Brenda
going to therapy once in a while, but I guess not....
>come on...this child isn't stable enough to pick out a COUCH, for god's
>sake...let ALONE someone to spend the rest of her LIFE with!!!
>obviously, i don't want them to put j&b back together EVER (if only
>because jax, god-like creature that he is, deserves FAR better than what
>brenda has become)
Ahhh...now I understand (and I agree that Jax is a "god-like creature"),
and I can see your point of view. However, I think that Brenda is a far
better person than she was when she was with Sonny. She has become a
little more independent, she's getting back on her feet job-wise, and she's
working through her feelings/problems with Sonny. It's better than the
sniveling, simpering, co-dependent girl she used to be when Sonny had her
under his spell... Some more work, and she'll be good enough for Jax. Oh,
and I love it that Brenda has to work to win Jax back! :D
>...but if they DO pair them up again (okay, let's be
>realistic, WHEN they do), i REALLY hope it isn't anytime soon. and i
>mean at least a year down the road.
And I will be happy when they do...*IF* they do it right this time. :) And
I think it'll probably be sooner than a year.
>okay, change of subject. i can get MUCH too involved in that one! :)
>so, speaking of jason, what is WITH robin lately??? now, i used to like
>her, but yesterday? GO CARLY!!! YOU TELL HER! "queen of angels"
>indeed.
WHAT?? Carly is SO WRONG!!
> what a sanctimonious, judgmental little thing she's getting to
>be.
Doesn't it bother you that Carly has no intentions of *ever* telling AJ
that he has a child? I mean, no matter what AJ did, he still deserves to
know. But Carly is too happy with Jason's money to care. And she's even
believing her own lie that Jason is the father. Calling him "daddy" is
ridiculous. She makes me crazy. I want someone...ANYONE...to tell AJ!!
And although it might not be Robin's place to tell AJ, she had every right
to voice her opinion.
> and what's with this robin radar that jason seems to have,
>appearing everytime she gets within ten feet of that bridge?
LOL!!! You're so right!! Yesterday Robin barely stepped onto the bridge,
and Jason was there... You know, I actually don't want her with Jason
anymore...not if he's going to stay the person he's become. How he can say
he'll never tell AJ, and still sleep at night is beyond me. Carly is
changing him...and it's not into something good... I'd rather see Robin
with Nikolas, because he'd treat her better...and it would make Sarah mad,
which is always a plus. <g>
Amy
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From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: Re: Mac Storyline & Brenda/Jax
Date: 03 Mar 1998 09:30:42 -0800
Julie wrote:
>
>> was anyone ELSE alternating between hysterical
>>laughter and screaming at braindead to stop being such an idiot during
>>her proposal yesterday?
You actually watched it? My, my, I'm impressed.
I love my "Fast-forward" button.
At 11:56 AM 3/3/98 -0500, Amy Schatz wrote:
>
>I don't understand something. Do you actually think that Sonny was better
>for Brenda than Jax? Or do you just hate Brenda? <g>
I think the appeal of Sonny and Brenda *is* the fact that they were SO
unhealthy and dysfunctional. I think at one time or another everyone falls
for someone who is COMPLETELY wrong for them, and it's nice fantasy to see
some other screwed up, against-all-odds couple actually make it.
As for the individual characters... I can't stand either Jax or Brenda
individually. I *loved* Sonny more than I could say. And now, I'm
disliking Jax more and more each day with this whole docks/Jason thing.
In the beginning I loved Sonny and Brenda (until she wore the wire). But
by the time Sonny married Lilly (the only soap character I have EVER truly
hated), they needed to cut the whole thing loose. But they didn't and we
got that triangle nightmare, and IMO that storyline did irreperable damage
to all three characters.
Julie again:
>>okay, change of subject. i can get MUCH too involved in that one! :)
>>so, speaking of jason, what is WITH robin lately??? now, i used to like
>>her, but yesterday? GO CARLY!!! YOU TELL HER! "queen of angels"
>>indeed.
AMEN! Carly hit the nail on the head so many times -- a few low-blows to
be sure, but Robin had them coming in a big way. Jason told her what he
told her because he TRUSTED her and because her feelings are important to
him. No matter what she thinks of the situation it is not her place to
tell AJ one WORD. She can harrange Jason from here until the middle of
next century if she wants (though I won't watch it), but SHE has no right
to do it herself.
Amy again:
>
>Doesn't it bother you that Carly has no intentions of *ever* telling AJ
>that he has a child?
Nope. It bothers me more that AJ has returned to the Q fold. If AJ was
still on his own, calling the shots in his own life, and making his own
decisions entirely independent of the family, then I would. But AJ is
proving Jason's point: the Q's being the brain-washing from childbirth.
And Michael doesn't stand a chance in hell of keeping out from under the
collective thumb of the family if he gets shunted off to them to raise.
I think it's the EXACT same thing as Lois running like hell to keep Brooke
Lynn out of their clutches.
And whatever motives Carly has, which are easily debateable, I think
Jason's are very close to Lois's and I agree with both of them.
>I mean, no matter what AJ did, he still deserves to
>know. But Carly is too happy with Jason's money to care. And she's even
>believing her own lie that Jason is the father. Calling him "daddy" is
>ridiculous.
I think her argument is that Jason is Michael's "daddy" is every way that
counts. Jason loves him, feeds him, changes him, puts him down, etc.
There is NOTHING Jason wouldn't do for him. IMO *that* is more of a father
than the sperm donor.
>She makes me crazy. I want someone...ANYONE...to tell AJ!!
>And although it might not be Robin's place to tell AJ, she had every right
>to voice her opinion.
I don't have a problem with her telling them both that they are wrong. Let
her scream and yell and badger the hell out of them if she wants. It's
just threatening to tell AJ herself that I have a problem with.
Well, I take that back, what I REALLY have a problem with is Guza turning a
character that I absolutely ADORE into such a sanctimoious and judgemental
brat. Carly was right about one thing: I think Robin is WAY too used to
being able to tell Jason that he's doing something "wrong" (by her esteemed
standards) and then having him "follow orders" (to coin Carly's phrase). I
think that's what's making Robin so crazy now -- no matter how many times
she says he should, Jason is still refusing to let the Q's in Michael's life.
And while I agree, on PRINCIPLE, that AJ should have a right to know his
son, the fact remains that Keesha hit the nail on the head when she said
that AJ didn't really want to be the father, he just wanted *something.*
And I think when you combine all the factors, Jason is much better suited
to being the father at this point.
Besides, this kind of secret is what makes for good soaps. ;-)
>with Nikolas, because he'd treat her better...and it would make Sarah mad,
>which is always a plus. <g>
LOL! Only if she was mad enough to leave town.
Taiyin
"By all means, please, sacrifice me on the
altar of your amusement. It's the least I
can contribute to your evening." -- Kevin
<taiyin@taiyin.net> http://www.taiyin.net/
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From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: Re: Matt/Ellen/Grace
Date: 03 Mar 1998 09:37:49 -0800
At 08:20 AM 3/3/98 PST, Julie Saker wrote:
>
>INTERESTING. plus, i think she has WAY more chemistry with matt than
>grace does.
I agree with that one (shocker, huh? ;-)). Matt and Ellen's chemistry is
fabulous and I am SO happy that they are finally actually getting on with
this.
>could be just because tptb have developed ellen much more
>than they have grace...but that's also probably a pretty good indication
>that those two are the ones who will wind up together.
No doubt. I do like Grace, but not with Matt. I liked her better as a
friend to the interns.
>them need that right now, nor do i think this is the right caper. mike,
>however, has made it more than clear that he'd LOVE to help out, so i
>hope they go that route. he's been collecting surrogate sons ever since
>sonny left--so what's one more?
No kidding. I *love* the two of them together, I wish we got to see them
more often. Too bad so much of their relationship is implied or happens
off-screen.
>on a related story...is that chris PURE EVIL or what???
No kidding! I don't think Cagey's hex on him is enough punishment for
THAT! Yikes. I think they are trying to show how desperate Chris is, but
it's coming across as not much more than vindictive and cruel.
>was taking SUCH a long time to develop, and then when v was briefly
>involved, it got interesting again (maybe just because i missed v!), but
>now that she's gone again...<yawn>
I was really hoping she'd be sticking around for a while with this
storyline. I think she'll be back for a while, but not nearly enough for
my tastes.
Taiyin
"By all means, please, sacrifice me on the
altar of your amusement. It's the least I
can contribute to your evening." -- Kevin
<taiyin@taiyin.net> http://www.taiyin.net/
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From: "Julie Saker" <jesaker@hotmail.com>
Subject: GH/PC: Re: Mac Storyline & Brenda/Jax
Date: 03 Mar 1998 12:01:49 PST
amy wrote:
>And if Tess can't even manage to keep Mac tied up, how are we
>supposed to believe she's capable of an intricate assasination
>attempt? Please...
LOL! very good point. i don't buy tess at all--she irks me. as does
this storyline, most of the time. but i'm JUST curious enough as to
who's behind this plot, and why, that i'll give it the benefit of the
doubt for a LITTLE while longer. (although i AM pissed that mac and
felicia were so wrapped up in this little scheme that they never DID
acknowledge that felicia's "bestest friend" lucy was DYING over on
pc...)
>And I have to disagree with you. :D I love Brenda and Jax. I
>detested Sonny more than I will ever be able to explain. I thought
>he treated Brenda really bad, and was not good for her at all. But
>that's just MHO. :-)
>I don't understand something. Do you actually think that Sonny was
>better for Brenda than Jax? Or do you just hate Brenda? <g>
now THAT'S a complex question. i was a s&b fan from day one--back when
they were both decently written and complex characters. brenda was a
spoiled willful brat, sonny was a brooding mobster with dubious morals,
and they were great fun to watch. and they were HOT HOT HOT!
then, during the whole stone/aids saga, tptb really developed sonny into
an AMAZING charater. i LOVED sonny from the beginning, but this just
cemented it even more. (now...would i, in real life, get involved with
an ex-drug-pushing/prostituting current mob boss, no matter how big his
hidden heart of gold? not likely. but this IS just a soap! :) did i
think sonny was good for brenda? well, i don't think a mobster in
general is good for ANYONE in his life--occupational hazards being what
they are. but i did think s&b had something. they definitely had that
spark that made them fun to watch. but then...
they threw lily into the mix. <shudder> and i'm with taiyin on this
one:
>But by the time Sonny married Lilly (the only soap character I have
>EVER truly hated), they needed to cut the whole thing loose. But
>they didn't and we got that triangle nightmare, and IMO that
>storyline did irreperable damage to all three characters.
yes. that was the beginning of the end, and by the time we were into
full s/b/j mode, it was too late to do anything about it. all THREE
characters suffered dreadfully from that one. i'm one of those rare s&b
fans who actually LIKED jax. he was such fun at the beginning, when he
was after lois (not that i wanted him to succeed THERE either...this man
REALLY needs to find a woman of his OWN!) i even (perish the thought!)
liked j&b together for a while--during their whole malibu trip and all
that. but what killed it for me was the marriage ultimatum, and then
the miranda thing. he very clearly knew brenda was still in love with
sonny, and yet he strongarmed her into marrying him anyway, all the
while never telling her that he had a secret first wife dead and buried
in the past...that to me is no more of a healthy relationship than what
s&b had.
HOWEVER...even though i no longer wanted j&b together, and really was
still rooting for s&b, the reunion was a HUGE disappointment, handled
terribly, leading to the ridiculous on-the-run-with-goldilocks
storyline, the tiger key mess, and the biggest travesty i've ever
witnessed on any television show ever, the wedding-that-wasn't, the
write-off of sonny, and the ensuing revision of history to portray sonny
as the antichrist and the root of all that is evil in port charles.
(which they are STILL doing, by the way! what was that tirade from
brenda yesterday about the only time she was ever happy being when she
was with jax?!? HELLO? did they WATCH the old tapes??? but i
digress...) i did NOT like the post-reunion s&b relationship, with her
tagging along behind sonny like a puppy dog, doing whatever he said
without question. nor did i like the new jax--who was doing basically
the same thing to brenda that she was doing to sonny. and the new
sonny--don't get me STARTED on that whole leaving-brenda-at-the-altar
thing. if i could get my hands on richard culliton for just FIVE
minutes...but i digress yet again.
>Ahhh...now I understand (and I agree that Jax is a "god-like
>creature"), and I can see your point of view. However, I think that
>Brenda is a far better person than she was when she was with Sonny.
>She has become a little more independent, she's getting back on her
>feet job-wise, and she's working through her feelings/problems with
>Sonny. It's better than the sniveling, simpering, co-dependent girl
>she used to be when Sonny had her under his spell... Some more work,
>and she'll be good enough for Jax.
see, now, my point of view on this is that jax was right--it IS too
late. just as, by the time the whole lily/wire mess was over, it was
really too late for s&b, it is now WAY too late for j&b. just as there
are EXTREMELY few circumstances under which i would now, after the
damage done to sonny's character, be able to accept brenda ever taking
him back if he were to return (say, he underwent a forced lobotomy on
the way to the church, or was kidnapped and replaced with his evil twin
Rainy), i can also not handle JAX taking BRENDA back. in my eyes, it's
extremely close to the same scenario. and since i'm SURE everyone would
agree that brenda would be an idiot to take sonny back--why does
everyone think jax should do the same with brenda?
>I think it'll probably be sooner than a year.
sadly, so do i.
>WHAT?? Carly is SO WRONG!!
>Doesn't it bother you that Carly has no intentions of *ever* telling
>AJ that he has a child?
and taiyin wrote:
>No matter what she thinks of the situation it is not her place to
>tell AJ one WORD. She can harrange Jason from here until the middle
>of next century if she wants (though I won't watch it), but SHE has
>no right to do it herself.
i agree with taiyin. i think carly's motives are less than admirable,
and i agree, in theory, that a.j. has a right to know that he has a son.
however, there is NO WAY this is robin's secret to tell.
Amy again:
>Doesn't it bother you that Carly has no intentions of *ever* telling
>AJ that he has a child?
and taiyin:
>while I agree, on PRINCIPLE, that AJ should have a right to know his
>son, the fact remains that Keesha hit the nail on the head when she
>said that AJ didn't really want to be the father, he just wanted
>*something.* And I think when you combine all the factors, Jason is
>much better suited to being the father at this point.
ditto. it's not like carly and aj had a RELATIONSHIP--they had one
drunken night, followed by a LOT of bad blood. aj doesn't want this
child because he wants a child--he wants this child to (a) get himself
into his family's good graces by producing an heir, and (b) to hurt
carly. he wants to take michael away and "raise" him (boarding school,
anyone?) WITHOUT carly, poisoning this child against his mother (who has
done a lot of things to deserve that--but NONE of them to her son). and
carly knows that if aj or the q's get their hands on this child, she
will NEVER have a chance to be his mother, or to even ever see him
again. i don't deny that a.j. has a legal and moral right to know he
has a son--but i don't think this situation is so cut-and-dry. which is
why it makes for GREAT soap story! :)
amy:
>Calling him "daddy" is ridiculous.
taiyin:
>I think her argument is that Jason is Michael's "daddy" is every way
>that counts. Jason loves him, feeds him, changes him, puts him down,
>etc. There is NOTHING Jason wouldn't do for him. IMO *that* is more
>of a father than the sperm donor.
i'm with taiyin again. tell me you can look at jason holding and
talking to that baby and say he's NOT the father in every way that
counts. yes, a.j. hasn't had the opportunity to be the dad. and maybe,
if he did, he would be a good one too. but as long as he's after that
baby for purely vindictive reasons, and wants to tear him away from his
mother--i can't side with him on this one.
>And although it might not be Robin's place to tell AJ, she had every
>right to voice her opinion.
agreed. but this new incarnation of robin drives me insane. like
taiyin said:
>Well, I take that back, what I REALLY have a problem with is Guza
>turning a character that I absolutely ADORE into such a sanctimoious
>and judgemental brat. Carly was right about one thing: I think
>Robin is WAY too used to being able to tell Jason that he's doing
>something "wrong" (by her esteemed standards) and then having him
>"follow orders" (to coin Carly's phrase).
couldn't have said it better myself! :)
>Besides, this kind of secret is what makes for good soaps. ;-)
and that, after all, is the bottom line. at least we have something to
ARGUE about now! :)
julie
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Subject: GH/PC: Sonny/Brenda and (gag me!!!) Miguel
Date: 03 Mar 1998 17:10:10 -0800
julie wrote>> did i think sonny was good for brenda? well, i don't
think a mobster in general is good for ANYONE in his life--occupational
hazards being what they are. but i did think s&b had something. they
definitely had that spark that made them fun to watch. but then...
they threw lily into the mix. <shudder>>>>
no no NO!!...BIGGER SHUDDER....remember mr menudo himself, the hair
flipping Miguel???? Now THAT guy set my teeth on edge. I remember
thinking GH had hit an all time low during his tenure.
Now regarding Brenda and her various love interests--I thought she and
Sonny had incredible chemistry, but I think he'd exude charisma if
paired with a troll. The guy could "act", plain and simple. I'd like to
see him come back if only to play opposite Luke. They were truly equals.
karen
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From: Amy Schatz <starbuck@csrlink.net>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: Sonny/Brenda and (gag me!!!) Miguel
Date: 03 Mar 1998 17:40:08 -0500
>At 05:10 PM 3/3/98 -0800, tvplist@ix.netcom.com wrote:
>julie wrote>> did i think sonny was good for brenda? well, i don't
>think a mobster in general is good for ANYONE in his life--occupational
>hazards being what they are. but i did think s&b had something. they
>definitely had that spark that made them fun to watch. but then...
>they threw lily into the mix. <shudder>>>>
>
>no no NO!!...BIGGER SHUDDER....remember mr menudo himself, the hair
>flipping Miguel???? Now THAT guy set my teeth on edge. I remember
>thinking GH had hit an all time low during his tenure.
LOL!!! Yeah, he was truly annoying. And that whole thing with him and
Brenda made her look *so* bad. My sister, to this day, does this thing
where she'll flip her hair over to one side, get a glazed look in her eyes,
and say, "Lily..." in that Miguel accent. Too funny. :-)
Amy
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From: tvplist@ix.netcom.com
Subject: Re: GH/PC: Sonny/Brenda and (gag me!!!) Miguel
Date: 03 Mar 1998 19:57:49 -0800
amy wrote>> My sister, to this day, does this thing
where she'll flip her hair over to one side, get a glazed look in her
eyes, and say, "Lily..." in that Miguel accent. Too funny. :-)>>
Ah yes...I can hear that little clipped "Leelee, Leelee" now. No loss
when he left to go on "tour"...
karen
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From: "Julie Saker" <jesaker@hotmail.com>
Subject: GH/PC: Re: Sonny/Brenda and (gag me!!!) Miguel
Date: 04 Mar 1998 06:59:01 PST
karen wrote:
>no no NO!!...BIGGER SHUDDER....remember mr menudo himself, the hair
>flipping Miguel???? Now THAT guy set my teeth on edge. I remember
>thinking GH had hit an all time low during his tenure.
EEEEEEEEEEWWWWW! you are so right on that one. about the only thing i
can say about miguel, is that he and lily TRULY deserved each other!
>Now regarding Brenda and her various love interests--I thought she
>and Sonny had incredible chemistry, but I think he'd exude charisma
>if paired with a troll. The guy could "act", plain and simple. I'd
>like to see him come back if only to play opposite Luke. They were
>truly equals.
true, true. and i loved him with robin and stone, and jason. i
DEFINITELY liked him much better than brenda, even back when brenda used
to be a character i could stomach for more than five seconds at a time.
incidentally, taiyin...yes, i actually DID watch the brenda/jax
proposal, although i COMPLETELY understand the ff urge! but truly, it
was great comic relief! (and REALLY good target practice, too, when
brenda started the bit about only ever being happy when she was with
jax. i'm getting REALLY good at nailing her right between the eyes with
all SORTS of objects. tv guide is particulary aerodynamic.)
julie
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From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
Subject: GH/PC: The Ghost of Stone
Date: 05 Mar 1998 19:00:41 -0800
Wow.
That was impressive.
I loved that Robin mentioned Stone today to Mac and Felicia.
As stupid as parts of this are (not even a MENTION of Kevin and
Lucy?!??!?!?), that was cool.
Taiyin
"What did I do before I had you?"
--"You were lost and confused."
-- Lucy and Kevin
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From: "Lydia Salaiz" <lsalaiz@intplsrv.net>
Subject: GH/PC: GH: Kevin & Lucy
Date: 04 Mar 1998 21:31:18 -0600
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From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: GH: Kevin & Lucy
Date: 05 Mar 1998 22:01:06 -0800
At 09:31 PM 3/4/98 -0600, Lydia Salaiz wrote:
>>>>
<excerpt>Taiyin wrote that there was no mention of Kevin or Lucy, I just
finished watching GH and Kevin and Lucy sent Mac and Felicia an empty box
as a present with a note attached. I can't remember everything in the
note, but Mac did say that Kevin was his best friend. Even Felicia
mentioned Kevin's name.
</excerpt><<<<<<<<
Oops. You're right. I spoke too soon. I hadn't seen the last five
minutes yet.
I'm happy now that I've seen it.
Taiyin
"What did I do before I had you?"
--"You were lost and confused."
-- Lucy and Kevin
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From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
Subject: GH/PC: Engagement Party
Date: 05 Mar 1998 22:03:39 -0800
They sure shoveled it on today, didn't they?
It was kind of hard to keep a straight face through the round after round
after round of "thank you for restoring my faith in humanity" stuff. Yikes.
I do wish they'd get on with this. <sigh>
Taiyin
"What did I do before I had you?"
--"You were lost and confused."
-- Lucy and Kevin
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From: "Fred & Rickie Yopp" <yopp@rightathome.com>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: GH: Kevin & Lucy
Date: 05 Mar 1998 05:22:15 -0800
What was the empty box suppose to represent? Did I miss something? I
really hope Mac and Felicia end up getting married. I think they are great
together.
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> From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
> To: Port Charles/General Hospital <port-charles@xmission.com>
> Subject: Re: GH/PC: GH: Kevin & Lucy
> Date: Thursday, March 05, 1998 10:01 PM
>
> At 09:31 PM 3/4/98 -0600, Lydia Salaiz wrote:
>
> >>>>
>
> <excerpt>Taiyin wrote that there was no mention of Kevin or Lucy, I just
> finished watching GH and Kevin and Lucy sent Mac and Felicia an empty box
> as a present with a note attached. I can't remember everything in the
> note, but Mac did say that Kevin was his best friend. Even Felicia
> mentioned Kevin's name.
>
>
>
> </excerpt><<<<<<<<
>
>
> Oops. You're right. I spoke too soon. I hadn't seen the last five
> minutes yet.
>
>
> I'm happy now that I've seen it.
>
>
> Taiyin
>
> "What did I do before I had you?"
>
> --"You were lost and confused."
>
> -- Lucy and Kevin
>
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From: "Julie Saker" <jesaker@hotmail.com>
Subject: GH/PC: Re: Engagement Party
Date: 05 Mar 1998 06:36:17 PST
first things first...
Happy Birthday Taiyin! :)
now back to our regularly scheduled program:
taiyin wrote:
>They sure shoveled it on today, didn't they?
>
>It was kind of hard to keep a straight face through the round after
>round after round of "thank you for restoring my faith in humanity"
>stuff. Yikes.
yeah...what was UP with that? i mean, they're getting MARRIED, not
giving birth to the messiah or anything. i think these people in port
charles need to get out more! :)
i agree though...i did think it was so sweet that robin mentioned stone.
(except, was the poor guy doing ANYTHING but matchmaking on his
deathbed? "sonny and brenda will get together," "felicia and mac will
get together"...well, he's 0 for 1 so far, with the jury still out on
#2!)
"Fred & Rickie Yopp" wrote:
>What was the empty box suppose to represent? Did I miss something?
somebody with a better memory will have to help me out on this one. the
note said something to the effect of, "nothing we could give you could
mean as much as you two getting married means to us," or something
similar to that sentiment.
>I really hope Mac and Felicia end up getting married. I think they
>are great together.
is anybody else getting the feeling, after yesterday's excess
(ESPECIALLY the robin/stone thing) that they may end up being
guilt-tripped into getting married??? well, not exactly, because that
would be pretty pathetic. but guilt-tripped into examining their true
feelings, and subsequently realizing they really DO want to get married.
because they certainly were laying it on a little thick yesterday...
julie
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From: Danielle Graham <DGraham@bn.com>
Subject: GH/PC: FW: GH
Date: 05 Mar 1998 10:34:40 -0500
> ----------
> From: Danielle Graham
> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 1998 10:31 AM
> To: 'portcharles@xmission.com'
> Subject: GH
> Sensitivity: Private
>
> yeah, puh-lease already w/Felicia & Mac we're only friends. Did anyone
> catch the look Felicia threw @Mac when he read the card from Lucy &
> Kevin, when he said, that's why "he's" my best friend? What was the
> deal w/that??? I also think they will get married & "act" like neither
> one of them wanted to do it. Someone in the town will have to mention
> them getting married to little Maxi....also I can't wait to see the
> fallout from Lucky finding out about dad raping mom years ago! It's
> been way too long for this to be addressed by TPTB. Finally, something
> more for Tony Geary to sink his teeth in......gotta love Luke!
>
>
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From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: Re: Engagement Party
Date: 06 Mar 1998 07:35:53 -0800
At 06:36 AM 3/5/98 PST, Julie Saker wrote:
>
>Happy Birthday Taiyin! :)
Thank you, Julie.
>yeah...what was UP with that? i mean, they're getting MARRIED, not
>giving birth to the messiah or anything. i think these people in port
>charles need to get out more! :)
LOL!! No kidding. A little bit of "Oh, it's so sweet you two found each
other again" is one thing, but damn, they were really pouring it on
yesterday. The guests needed hip waders. Freakish.
>i agree though...i did think it was so sweet that robin mentioned stone.
>(except, was the poor guy doing ANYTHING but matchmaking on his
>deathbed? "sonny and brenda will get together," "felicia and mac will
>get together"...well, he's 0 for 1 so far, with the jury still out on
>#2!)
That did seem a little strange, in actuality. I'm just happy anytime there
is any real acknowledgment of history.
>somebody with a better memory will have to help me out on this one. the
>note said something to the effect of, "nothing we could give you could
>mean as much as you two getting married means to us," or something
>similar to that sentiment.
Nope, that's what it said all right. The box wasn't actually empty, we
just didn't see what was in it. I was happy to see they did at least
RECOGNIZE K&L's absence and Lucy being in GH.
>is anybody else getting the feeling, after yesterday's excess
>(ESPECIALLY the robin/stone thing) that they may end up being
>guilt-tripped into getting married??? well, not exactly, because that
>would be pretty pathetic. but guilt-tripped into examining their true
>feelings, and subsequently realizing they really DO want to get married.
Could me. Mostly it looked like they were realizing exactly why they
WOULDN'T ever actually get married.
I don't know, I just want some progress here...
Taiyin
"What did I do before I had you?"
--"You were lost and confused."
-- Lucy and Kevin
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From: Amy Schatz <starbuck@csrlink.net>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: Engagement Party
Date: 05 Mar 1998 11:23:01 -0500
>At 10:03 PM 3/5/98 -0800, you wrote:
>They sure shoveled it on today, didn't they?
>It was kind of hard to keep a straight face through the round after round
>after round of "thank you for restoring my faith in humanity" stuff. Yikes.
No kidding!! My God, I think I went into sugar shock from all that
over-the-top sweetness...
The only saving grace was the Liz and Lucky stuff. :) And today looks like
another good L&L day! :D
>I do wish they'd get on with this. <sigh>
I wish they'd get on with it, or kill us all quickly. <g> It's becoming
painful...
And Tess looking menacingly at Jax is not "moving the story forward" in my
book.
Amy
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From: Amy Schatz <starbuck@csrlink.net>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: FW: GH
Date: 05 Mar 1998 11:25:50 -0500
>At 10:34 AM 3/5/98 -0500, you wrote:
>> yeah, puh-lease already w/Felicia & Mac we're only friends.
It's tired by now...we all know that they want to be more than friends.
Just let them admit it.
> Did anyone
>> catch the look Felicia threw @Mac when he read the card from Lucy &
>> Kevin, when he said, that's why "he's" my best friend? What was the
>> deal w/that???
I wanted to ask about that, too. I did not get that look AT ALL. It's
like she thought Mac either wasn't Kevin's best friend, or she thought that
Mac, acting as Jimmy, shouldn't have known that. Or...something else that
I cannot fathom. Can anyone shed some light?
Amy
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From: Danielle Graham <DGraham@bn.com>
Subject: GH/PC: GH ENGAGEMENT
Date: 05 Mar 1998 11:40:29 -0500
> Did anyone
>> catch the look Felicia threw @Mac when he read the card from Lucy &
>> Kevin, when he said, that's why "he's" my best friend? What was the
>> deal w/that???
I wanted to ask about that, too. I did not get that look AT ALL. It's
like she thought Mac either wasn't Kevin's best friend, or she thought
that
Mac, acting as Jimmy, shouldn't have known that. Or...something else
that
I cannot fathom.
Maybe, Felicia was just thinking that Mac would say that Kevin was his
bestfriend, but "James" would think she was, since he's really
affectionate. Maybe the look was given to alert him that perhaps Tess
was looking. It's a thought!.....Also, agree the best part was with
Lucky & Liz. But isn't it amazing how he did a complete 360 degree turn
on her! He's now like....Sarah, who? I don't blame him on that one. And
how cute are they together?
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From: Amy Schatz <starbuck@csrlink.net>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: GH ENGAGEMENT
Date: 05 Mar 1998 11:49:46 -0500
>At 11:40 AM 3/5/98 -0500, you wrote:
>I wanted to ask about that, too. I did not get that look AT ALL. It's
>like she thought Mac either wasn't Kevin's best friend, or she thought
>that
>Mac, acting as Jimmy, shouldn't have known that. Or...something else
>that
>I cannot fathom.
>
>Maybe, Felicia was just thinking that Mac would say that Kevin was his
>bestfriend, but "James" would think she was, since he's really
>affectionate. Maybe the look was given to alert him that perhaps Tess
>was looking. It's a thought!.....
That's all I could come up with. But they didn't really make it clear
enough. I mean, if after Mac said that, they had cut to a shot of Tess
looking as nasty as she can muster, then cut back to Felicia's weird look,
I could have seen it. This way it's like they cut off an extra line or
something.
>Also, agree the best part was with
>Lucky & Liz. But isn't it amazing how he did a complete 360 degree turn
>on her!
I know!! He's finally woken up!! :D
> He's now like....Sarah, who? I don't blame him on that one.
Me, either. And he hardly even looks at Sarah anymore when they're
together. Too cute. :D
> And how cute are they together?
Beyond cute. My sister wants them to get married right now. <G>
Amy
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From: Danielle Graham <DGraham@bn.com>
Subject: GH/PC: GH ENGAGEMENT PARTY
Date: 05 Mar 1998 12:02:37 -0500
What's the deal w/Tony anyway? So, he slept with Carly who's his
stepdaughter. There's no blood relation there. And with that "do" he has
going? Out in the papers now, it's stating Michael gets kidnapped this
week. Gee, Tony just happens to go bonkers and declare he's leaving PC.
Little too obvious on that one. I guess we're s'posed to believe he's
gonna do it. Stranger things have happened before! Did anyone catch the
little glare Tony & Luke exchanged? They looked like they were going to
start laughing at any minute. Probably from the hoopla that Mac &
Felicia was doing the marriage bit for the entire town.
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From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: Engagement Party
Date: 05 Mar 1998 09:04:52 -0800
At 11:23 AM 3/5/98 -0500, Amy Schatz wrote:
>
>No kidding!! My God, I think I went into sugar shock from all that
>over-the-top sweetness...
And it was coming from EVERYONE. I think Luke was about the only person
who wasn't gushing at them.
>The only saving grace was the Liz and Lucky stuff. :) And today looks like
>another good L&L day! :D
No kidding! I still can't get over how incredible a job they are both
doing with this. It's hard to reconcile this Lizzie witht he annoying,
smoking, wannabe twit who first arrived in town last summer. I'm glad,
though. There is just so much meat to this story and I'm really glad that
she is being able to prove she can handle it so well.
>I wish they'd get on with it, or kill us all quickly. <g> It's becoming
>painful...
Especially the less-than-successful attempts at comedy that get thrown in
there, too.
>And Tess looking menacingly at Jax is not "moving the story forward" in my
>book.
I missed that. I'm a little heavy-handed on my fast-forward button and
people/stories that annoy me are rarely spared.
Taiyin
"By all means, please, sacrifice me on the
altar of your amusement. It's the least I
can contribute to your evening." -- Kevin
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From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: FW: GH
Date: 05 Mar 1998 09:09:02 -0800
At 11:25 AM 3/5/98 -0500, Amy Schatz wrote:
>
>I wanted to ask about that, too. I did not get that look AT ALL. It's
>like she thought Mac either wasn't Kevin's best friend, or she thought that
>Mac, acting as Jimmy, shouldn't have known that. Or...something else that
>I cannot fathom. Can anyone shed some light?
Could've been guilt. I mean, lying to everyone is already not cool --
which they know (and which is EXACTLY the same thing that K&L got finished
doing). Maybe it's more a matter of "Geez, Lucy was on her death bed and
Kevin STILL went to all this trouble for some fake engagement because we
are lying to him. Ouch."
Probably not, but this storyinline is getting so tiresome that I have to
find my interest where ever I can get it. ;-)
Taiyin
"By all means, please, sacrifice me on the
altar of your amusement. It's the least I
can contribute to your evening." -- Kevin
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From: Amy Schatz <starbuck@csrlink.net>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: Engagement Party
Date: 05 Mar 1998 12:31:59 -0500
>At 09:04 AM 3/5/98 -0800, you wrote:
>>No kidding!! My God, I think I went into sugar shock from all that
>>over-the-top sweetness...
>
>And it was coming from EVERYONE. I think Luke was about the only person
>who wasn't gushing at them.
And thank God for that!! At least there was one person there whom I didn't
suspect of being a secret Hallmark agent. <g>
>>The only saving grace was the Liz and Lucky stuff. :) And today looks like
>>another good L&L day! :D
>
>No kidding! I still can't get over how incredible a job they are both
>doing with this.
Neither can I!! This is a far cry from Lucky's oh-so-dramatic gambling
storyline from yore.
> It's hard to reconcile this Lizzie witht he annoying,
>smoking, wannabe twit who first arrived in town last summer.
They've really changed her around - for the better. Cause I hated both Liz
and Sarah when they first arrived. Now I just hate Sarah. :-)
> I'm glad,
>though. There is just so much meat to this story and I'm really glad that
>she is being able to prove she can handle it so well.
They better be nominated for Emmy's!!! :D
>>I wish they'd get on with it, or kill us all quickly. <g> It's becoming
>>painful...
>
>Especially the less-than-successful attempts at comedy that get thrown in
>there, too.
LOL. I know...that's the most painful part, I think. :)
>>And Tess looking menacingly at Jax is not "moving the story forward" in my
>>book.
>
>I missed that. I'm a little heavy-handed on my fast-forward button and
>people/stories that annoy me are rarely spared.
Well, I had to suffer through it in real time. <g> And it was at the end,
when V is asking Jax about that company. And they zoom in on Jax, then he
gets blurry and they focus on Tess staring daggers at him.
Happy birthday, BTW!!! :D
Amy
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From: Danielle Graham <DGraham@bn.com>
Subject: GH/PC: GH ENGAGEMENT PARTY
Date: 05 Mar 1998 12:47:50 -0500
And thank God for that!! At least there was one person there whom I
didn't
suspect of being a secret Hallmark agent. <g>
Luke and Hallmark being mentioned in the same topic?
Neither can I!! This is a far cry from Lucky's oh-so-dramatic gambling
storyline from yore.
Since I just about forgot about the gambling storyline, I guess that
tells everyone how good that was.
, wannabe twit who first arrived in town last summer.
> It's hard to reconcile this Lizzie witht he annoying,
>smoking
They've really changed her around - for the better. Cause I hated both
Liz
and Sarah when they first arrived. Now I just hate Sarah. :-)
> I'm glad,
>though. There is just so much meat to this story and I'm really glad
that
>she is being able to prove she can handle it so well.
They better be nominated for Emmy's!!! :D
I think you're being a little premature on the Emmy status just yet!
Finally, Lucky is getting a girl! Did anyone buy the story of him going
on a date...did I doze off that day....with a girl & she cut her pizza
w/a fork & a knife! Lucky & Liz always did have the chemistry from day
one. I did however like the tough chick act she was trying to pull off.
>>And Tess looking menacingly at Jax is not "moving the story forward"
in my
>>book.
That cracked me up! 2 private detectives and an ex-cop know that Tess
is the "bad girl" yet, no one keeps a close eye on her? We all saw that
one across the room. V can tap a public phone in seconds, get
fingerprints off a glass & conclude their not Mac's in a dark hallway,
but put the girl right in front of her face...hmmm
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From: "Julie Saker" <jesaker@hotmail.com>
Subject: GH/PC: L&L rape article (old spoiler included)
Date: 05 Mar 1998 11:38:57 PST
apparently gh has hit the mainstream! this was in the ny post--an
article about the revisiting of the luke and laura rape. a slight
spoiler, which has already been posted here, is included, so...
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THE SAD TRUTH: IT WAS RAPE!
By JOSEF ADALIAN
THE producers of "General Hospital" are about to take a
sledgehammer to the popular myths surrounding the storybook
romance of daytime's most famous couple: Luke and Laura.
Starting tomorrow, the long-running ABC soap will begin a
multiweek storyline in which young Lucky Spencer (Jonathan
Jackson) finds out that his father Luke (Anthony Geary) raped his
mother Laura (Genie Francis) months before the two became
lovers.
Lucky's discovery will allow "GH" to revisit the sordid origins of
Luke and Laura's relationship - details which are
well-remembered by the soap's hard-core fans, but which have
been virtually ignored by the soap for nearly 20 years. Geary says
he was shocked when the "GH" writers told him about the new
storyline.
"My first reaction was that it was a big can of worms that could
eat us alive," Geary remembers. "I was terrified, basically."
Casual viewers who know of Luke and Laura only from the
couple's high-rated 1982 wedding might be shocked when they
find out the real story behind the romance.
Back in 1979, Luke Spencer and Laura Baldwin were merely
good pals who worked together at Luke's Campus Disco. Laura
was married, but the sexual tension between the 17-year-old
Laura and the older Luke was clear.
Luke finally acted on his attraction to Laura one late night in
October 1979, when Laura discovered him crying at the Campus
Disco's bar. Worried that he's about to be killed by mobster
Frank Smith, Luke admits his love for Laura.
"It's like some kind of sickness, eating me up - and I can't
concentrate on anything. And in my business, that's dangerous,
baby," Luke told Laura.
After telling Laura that he's constantly dreaming about "holding
you in my arms and making love to you," Luke then forces her to
dance with him as Herb Alpert's "Rise" plays in the background.
Laura pleads with Luke to let her go home, but instead, he rapes
her (though viewers never see the act itself.)
Rather than turn Luke in to the police, Laura fell in love with her
attacker - and married him three years later. While the rape has
been mentioned since then, "GH" producers tended to portray the
incident as a "seduction" instead of what it really was: rape.
"They probably downplayed it," Pat Fili-Krushel, president of
ABC Daytime, told The Post yesterday. "But what they were
trying to avoid was sending a message that women fall in love
with their rapists."
Now, ABC and "GH" are trying to send another message: Rape
is rape - and it's always bad.
"It was not acceptable then, no matter what the town said or the
press said," says "GH" executive producer Wendy Riche, who
was not with the show during the original Luke and Laura
storyline.
Still, "We didn't approach it as "let's make amends'," Riche adds.
"We didn't feel guilty or felt like we had to."
The new storyline begins tomorrow when Lucky's half-brother
tells him Luke raped their mother, Laura. Lucky tries to find out
whether the charge is true - and next Friday, March 13, Lucky
will confront Luke with the rape accusation. On Monday, March
16, Luke will explain what happened, delivering an emotional
five-minute monologue. Since Francis is not currently on the
show, Laura will not be involved in the plot.
me again. i really hope they do an extended flashback of
the original scene--i've always wanted to see it...this
could be my chance! hope they do...
julie
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From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: L&L rape article (old spoiler included)
Date: 05 Mar 1998 11:40:31 -0800
At 11:38 AM 3/5/98 PST, Julie Saker wrote:
>will confront Luke with the rape accusation. On Monday, March
>16, Luke will explain what happened, delivering an emotional
>five-minute monologue. Since Francis is not currently on the
>show, Laura will not be involved in the plot.
Oh man, it kills me that Genie isn't here for this. It's absolutely
painful to have all this go down without her. Geez.
Yesterday when Lucky was talking to Liz about the fact that because of her
he now has a better understanding of what his mother went through -- he
should have been able to have that conversation with Laura, too. I think
it's relaly cool that the show is giving Genie this kind of leeway, but I
really, really, REALLY wish she'd come back. At least part time for this
storyline.
>me again. i really hope they do an extended flashback of
>the original scene--i've always wanted to see it...this
>could be my chance! hope they do...
"Luke and Laura: Lovers on the Run" tape series released by ABC has this on
it. I have volume 2 (though I haven't watched it yet, so I don't know what
is exactly on each volume).
Taiyin
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altar of your amusement. It's the least I
can contribute to your evening." -- Kevin
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From: "Julie Saker" <jesaker@hotmail.com>
Subject: GH/PC: Re: GENIE, COME BACK!!!!!
Date: 05 Mar 1998 12:17:17 PST
taiyin wrote:
>Oh man, it kills me that Genie isn't here for this. It's absolutely
>painful to have all this go down without her. Geez.
>
>Yesterday when Lucky was talking to Liz about the fact that because
>of her he now has a better understanding of what his mother went
>through -- he should have been able to have that conversation with
>Laura, too. I think it's relaly cool that the show is giving Genie
>this kind of leeway, but I really, really, REALLY wish she'd come
>back. At least part time for this storyline.
i TOTALLY agree!
a question--is is at ALL within the realm of possibility that she IS
coming back (or is already back) and tptb are just managing to keep a
VERY tight lid on that fact to surprise everyone? i know in this day of
rampant spoilers, almost NOTHING stays a secret...so would it be even
possible to do it that way if tptb wanted to? because can you imagine
how unbelievably cool it would be to just have her SHOW UP one of these
days?
i know, not likely. tptb would want to milk that news for all it was
worth, for publicity and stuff. but still...wouldn't it be cool?
just call me pollyanna...
julie
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Subject: GH/PC: Re: Engagement Party
Date: 05 Mar 1998 12:26:48 PST
amy wrote:
>I wish they'd get on with it, or kill us all quickly. <g> It's
>becoming painful...
>
>And Tess looking menacingly at Jax is not "moving the story forward"
>in my book.
LOL! now, a question...mr. hardy boy himself mac scorpio was the FIRST
to jump to a completely LUDICROUS conclusion, that tess was planning to
take out jason, based on NOTHING whatsoever. but after her reaction to
his friendliness towards jax, which seemed to me to be a little
excessive, he wasn't the LEAST bit suspicious of THAT???
sheesh. where's v when you need her...they really DO need to get things
going. although, with a wedding date of april 18, at least we know
they'll have to wrap it up by then! :)
hey, wouldn't it be cute if mac and felicia and kevin and lucy had a
double wedding? (i know, i know...i can hear taiyin now, screaming that
after ALL they've been through, kevin and lucy deserve to have the
wedding of our...um, i mean THEIR...dreams ALL TO THEMSELVES. and i do
agree...but i STILL think it would be cute! and at least it would set
a date! :)
julie
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Subject: GH/PC: oh thank GOD...(robin spoilers!)
Date: 05 Mar 1998 12:44:55 PST
all i can say is it's about TIME they gave this girl something to do!
anyway, spoilers below...
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>These came from Soap Opera Weekly Magazine, which I got in the mail
>yesterday (I subscribe to it and Soap Opera Digest)
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>Coming next week:
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>1. Katherine blasts Stefan for his treatment of Robin.
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>2. Helena confronts Robin!!
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>And coming up the week after next:
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>Robin makes a discovery that puts her in jeopardy!!
THANK GOD!!! she finally gets to do something besides preach! and if
we can pull out some of that scorpio/cassadine history...she could
actually be watchable again! (who knows, maybe they even had a REASON
for mentioning that she can shoot the other day!)
god i miss robert and anna. they could keep laura gone FOREVER if i
could have either of THEM back...
julie
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Subject: GH/PC: more gh spoilers!
Date: 05 Mar 1998 13:03:56 PST
again from pc online...some pretty good stuff coming up!
julie
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WEEK OF MARCH 9-13, 1998
courtesy of Soap Opera Weekly, Soap Opera Update, Soap Opera News,
Soap Opera Magazine and other sources!
Important Stuff:
MONDAY: Lucky digs into Nikolas' accusations ò Bobbie blames Carly for
Michael's kidnapping
TUESDAY: ò Edward finds himself at the center of the kidnapping
investigation ò Lucky uncovers disturbing old documents at General
Hospital
WEDNESDAY: ò Amy finds Alan passed out with a bottle of pills
THURSDAY: ò Taggert convinces Jason to go to extremes ò Katherine throws
a shower for Felicia
FRIDAY: ò Brenda makes a new attempt to win back Jax ò Luke finds Lucky
packing
More Stuff:
Katherine blasts Stefan for his treatment of Robin.
Lucky looks into Nikolas' accusations about the Spencer family's
history, and doesn't like what he finds.
Brenda continues her campaign to win back Jax, despite his insistence
that it won't work.
When Amy catches Alan red-handed, he tries to blame a recent event for
his long-standing problem.
Felicia uses what should be a happy occasion to break disappointing
news.
Helena confronts Robin.
Audrey continues to distance herself from Liz, as Liz and Lucky realize
the severity of what's happening to Liz.
Jason agrees to cooperate with the police.
Tess puts "James" to the test as Mac and Felicia realize who Tess'
target really is.
The FOLLOWING week:
Stefan rocks Nikolas with news about Robin (on March 16)
Edward makes a surprise TV appearance (on March 17)
Luke gives Nikolas a warning
Brenda plans a romantic getaway for herself and Jax
Robin makes a discovery that puts her in jeopardy
Sonny Returns to GH for Primetime Special
Maurice Benard has returned to the set to tape scenes for the General
Hospital 35th Anniversary Primetime Special that will air on April 2nd.
The special will also feature new segments taped by Genie
Francis (Laura), who remains on maternity leave. Other former stars
participating in the anniversary show include Finola Hughes (ex-Anna),
Rena Sofer (ex-Lois), Jack Wagner (ex-Frisco) and John Stamos.
More highlights: Anthony Geary (Luke) will serve as host for the
hour-long retrospective and appears in an opening sketch with actress
Kathy Kinney (Mimi, The Drew Carey Show). Interviews with current
cast members will include Geary, Genie, Jacklyn Zeman (Bobbie), Brad
Maule (Tony), Stuart Damon (Alan), and Leslie Charleson (Monica). Pairs
of popular actors introducing the show's various decades will include
Zeman and Kin Shriner (Scotty), Kimberly McCullough (Robin) and John J.
York (Mac) and Vanessa Marcil (Brenda) and Ingo Rademacher (Jax).
There will be a humorous song, written and performed by Maule, which
viewers will be treated to during the special's closing credits. Also
memorable clips from favorite GH episodes, past and present.
Lucky Uncovers Disturbing Hospital Records
Nikolas' accusations about Luke's past with Laura hit Lucky hard. He
attacks Nikolas' words with the force of a true Spencer. Believing
there's a possibility that the information was wrong, Nikolas questions
Stefan about the facts. Stefan assures him that it is all true, but
warns Nikolas that Luke will retaliate if he learns where Lucky got the
scoop.
Knowing of Scott's relationship with his mother before Luke came into
the picture, Lucky turns to him for answers, but finds him
uncooperative. Later the GH records department confirms Lucky's fears
when he discovers some disturbing documents. Meanwhile, Lucky continues
to be Liz's biggest support as she deals with the repercussions of her
rape. Dealing with her problems serves to emphasize the pain and
humiliation of what she went through.
ABOUT THE KIDNAPPING: Jason and Carly are staggered to learn that baby
Michael has been kidnapped. Jason wants to handle the situation his own
way, but both Taggert and Garcia have plans of their own. They suggest
that Jason and Carly keep quiet about the situation, but Carly insists
on calling Bobbie, who throws it back in Carly's face that she is the
cause of her baby being in danger. Meanwhile, the authorities believe a
Quartermaine is the prime suspect.
Brenda Will Do Anything to Win Back Jax
Brenda is trying to woo Jax the way he wooed her but it's not really
Brenda, explains head writer Robert Guza, Jr. She gives him a set of
adventure books and gets him his favorite Irish oysters. [oh GAG!!! i'm
sorry, i COULDN'T let that pass without comment...julie] Jax enjoys
being on the receiving end, but he doesn't reciprocate Brenda's romantic
overtures. "The central issue is that Brenda has chosen Sonny," Guza
continues. "She has to get past Sonny, and deep down they both know that
Jax is wildly amused and having a great time with all of these
extravagant gestures and fun stuff, but he still knows that wall between
them has not been dealt with."
Although Jax knows Brenda loves him - and he also knows he loves her -
he doesn't know if they will wind up together. [obviously he hasn't
been reading any of guza's numerous interviews. -j ] Guza notes that
Jax is "the huge risk taker - that's the big gamble. He loves the game
above everything else. He's the corporate raider who buys up all these
companies and sells them off because there is no challenge in running
them. The challenge is in the conquest. This is the one challenge he
can't be sure he will win." [yawn]
The uncertainty of their future will come into even stronger focus
shortly when a dramatic turn of events stops being humorous and becomes
life-and-death. "In the course of this mini-arc," Guza says, "Brenda has
to deal with a situation in which she has to come to terms with her
horrible anger against Sonny."
News and Notes
Nancy Lee Grahn (Alexis) welcomed her first child, a girl, Kate, in Los
Angeles early the morning of Feb. 24. Mom and baby are doing fine. Among
the actors who have auditioned for the role of Jerry, Jax's
brother, are Don McVicar, who is on the recurring status as Clarke on
B&B, and Michael Corbett, ex-Michael, Ryan's Hope.
SPRING PREVIEW
The effects of Liz's rape continue to be far reaching. And even though
there will be some resolution in the "whodunit" aspect, much more
important are the psychological ramifications of the unfolding events
on people such as Lucky, who finds himself in the throes of reconciling
himself with Luke's deceit. In his anger and devastation, Lucky winds up
aligning himself with Luke's most dangerous adversary. Luke is also
furious and goes after Stefan and Nikolas. The whole melee drives a
further wedge between Bobbie and Luke. Look for everything to come to a
head at a huge social event at Wyndemere.
Everyone is a suspect in Michael's kidnapping, but once the guilty party
is discovered, according to Guza, "The punishment isn't quite what was
anticipated for the guilty party, so Carly will take the law into her
own hands."
Carly makes another bold move when, for the first time in her life, she
begins to understand what it feels like to be secure. As she gets closer
to her son and knows she can depend on Jason, in typical Carly
fashion, she goes a little overboard and jeopardizes that security. At
the same time, Carly's behavior brings out the fighter in Robin that
we've so rarely seen.
Brenda continues her campaign to win Jax back despite his resistance,
but the situation takes a much more serious turn when she and Jason are
thrown together in a life-or-death situation, propelling Brenda
back to what happened at the altar with Sonny. Guza says the
relationship between Brenda and Jax reaches a climax, and adds that,
"The thing that's been between them all along comes between them for
one final time."
Tess and company finally make their move on their target - Jax - but,
"The person who gets it is not the person we think is going to get it,"
says Guza. "And the person behind it is not who we think is behind it."
A new character will be introduced following the attempt on Jax's life.
Through all of this, Mac and Felicia are stuck together.
Tony continues to battle the demons that took him over when B.J. died.
Alan, too, is waging war with his own demons, and Taggert pursues him
with a vengence in order to get to Jason. When Alan's drug supply begins
to dry up, desperation takes over. Ultimately, Alan's problem claims
other victims, including people he cares about very deeply - people who
are going to suffer as a result.
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From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: more gh spoilers!
Date: 05 Mar 1998 14:01:25 -0800
At 01:03 PM 3/5/98 PST, Julie Saker wrote:
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Now THIS I am *dying* to see. Wow.
>himself with Luke's deceit. In his anger and devastation, Lucky winds up
>aligning himself with Luke's most dangerous adversary. Luke is also
>furious and goes after Stefan and Nikolas. The whole melee drives a
>further wedge between Bobbie and Luke. Look for everything to come to a
>head at a huge social event at Wyndemere.
You know, as much as it annoys me (and BOY does it annoy me) that Guza
tends to turn GH into "The Cassadine and Spencer Show" I must confess, that
the reprocussions from Lizzie's story are making for some incredible grist
for the mill around there.
>fashion, she goes a little overboard and jeopardizes that security. At
>the same time, Carly's behavior brings out the fighter in Robin that
>we've so rarely seen.
I've been waiting for YEARS for them to stop making Robin the local patron
saint, but turning her into a preachy, sanctimonious snot was not what I
had in mind, either. I hope whatever this means is better than the past
few weeks have been when it comes to Robin.
Taiyin
"By all means, please, sacrifice me on the
altar of your amusement. It's the least I
can contribute to your evening." -- Kevin
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From: Amy Schatz <starbuck@csrlink.net>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: oh thank GOD...(robin spoilers!)
Date: 05 Mar 1998 21:42:47 -0500
>At 12:44 PM 3/5/98 PST, you wrote:
>god i miss robert and anna. they could keep laura gone FOREVER if i
>could have either of THEM back...
I totally agree!
Robert and Anna were my absolute favorite characters on GH. I loved them.
That whole storyline where Anna was kidnapped by that Grant Putnam guy was
one of my favorites!
And that whole storyline where they kinda realized they still liked each
other, and then got back together was great.
I miss them so much. Why don't they come back and make me happy? <g>
Amy
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From: Danielle Graham <DGraham@bn.com>
Subject: GH/PC: GH
Date: 06 Mar 1998 10:34:05 -0500
please, please, please tell me that TPTB are not putting Robin together
w/Nikolas! It certainly would stir up the ol' Spencer/Cassadine story,
but c'mon now. No way did I ever buy Tyler being the 17 yr. old Nikolas,
now he's gonna be the "younger" guy to Robin. I must say though, if this
story would give Robin some back bone, fire away guys. This Lucky/Liz
pairing is the best couple in such a long time. Isn't it funny that they
are the L&L of the 90's, when the L&L of the 80's was in fact Luke &
Laura...Lucky's parents? Seemed a little funny!
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From: "Gina Clayton" <GCLAYTON@LES.LES.SC.EDU>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: Re: GENIE, COME BACK!!!!!
Date: 06 Mar 1998 13:09:39 EST5EDT
> a question--is is at ALL within the realm of possibility that she IS
> coming back (or is already back) and tptb are just managing to keep a
> VERY tight lid on that fact to surprise everyone? i know in this day of
> rampant spoilers, almost NOTHING stays a secret...so would it be even
> possible to do it that way if tptb wanted to?
they did it with Lily's death. We had some idea what was going on,
but it never hit the newstands that LM was leaving the show until
after it happened. I hope that Genie is going to surprise us.
> i know, not likely. tptb would want to milk that news for all it was
> worth, for publicity and stuff. but still...wouldn't it be cool?
I don't know about that.....I would have doing a dance if I had known
in advance that Lily was leaving the show. (before I realized how
her death was going to come about) the fans felt very strongly about
her and the whole J/B/S/L storyline, so I wouldn't put it past them
to do it again with Genie knowing how much everyone wants her back.
gina
> just call me pollyanna...
> julie
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From: Danielle Graham <DGraham@bn.com>
Subject: GH/PC: GENIE??
Date: 06 Mar 1998 14:03:11 -0500
> a question--is is at ALL within the realm of possibility that she IS
> coming back (or is already back) and tptb are just managing to keep a
> VERY tight lid on that fact to surprise everyone?
I'm hoping along with everyone else that perhaps, Genie is on her way
back. Also, has anyone ever noticed, when a character is coming back,
hints are dropped, like mentioning them more than before...Nikolas'
letter, Lucky, Luke & Bobby mentioning her name...then the
kicker....usually showing pictures! Did anyone catch the scanning of the
pictures on the refrigerator @the Spencer house? Then again...Lily's
death was a shocker!
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From: "Julie Saker" <jesaker@hotmail.com>
Subject: GH/PC: Re: GENIE??
Date: 06 Mar 1998 13:32:38 PST
Danielle Graham wrote:
>Also, has anyone ever noticed, when a character is coming back,
>hints are dropped, like mentioning them more than before...Nikolas'
>letter, Lucky, Luke & Bobby mentioning her name...then the
>kicker....usually showing pictures! Did anyone catch the scanning of
>the pictures on the refrigerator @the Spencer house?
we'd have to have been blind to miss it--they certainly did it enough!
(did anybody else find it odd that they would have such OLD pictures on
their refrigerator??? one of those luke & laura pics was positively
ANCIENT!) but yeah...it definitely seems possible that they're hinting.
i hope...
on the other hand, it would be pretty impossible to do this storyline
without at least MENTIONING laura! (and EQUALLY dumb to do it without
her there, if you ask me...we all know she has to come back EVENTUALLY,
being under contract and all. so wouldn't you think they would have
waited? which also gives me some hope that she'll be heading back
soon.) oh well, we shall see...
julie
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From: Danielle Graham <DGraham@bn.com>
Subject: GH/PC: GH-Genie?
Date: 06 Mar 1998 16:48:29 -0500
Did anyone catch the scanning of
>the pictures on the refrigerator @the Spencer house?
we'd have to have been blind to miss it--they certainly did it enough
The point about seeing the pix is, 1st of all w/Laura, I don't think
they'd be crazy enough to even imagine recasting Genie, Bob Guza has
said in interviews he'd do "anything" to get her to come back. And
regarding the contract issue, people have been released from their
contracts early for many reasons. (Melissa Reeves-Days of Our Lives is
an interesting candidate here!) I agree, I can't even believe that GH
would go full steam ahead w/this storyline w/out Laura front & center.
There's going to be the most important point of view missing from this
story, the victim, being Laura (but how many victims end up marrying the
rapist, really???). This could make things more viotile being Luke &
Lucky & that may just be where all the storyline lies!
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From: tvplist@ix.netcom.com
Subject: GH/PC: Brad Maule Interview (HUGE SCOOP)
Date: 08 Mar 1998 01:21:47 -0800
I just read the new Brad Maule TV Guide interview at:
http://www.tvgen.com/tv/magazine/980309/soaps.htm
It contains new info about the kidnapping and a plot involving Robin, so
if you don't want a glimpse down the road, don't read it.
Enjoy!!
karen
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From: "Julie Saker" <jesaker@hotmail.com>
Subject: GH/PC: Fwd: logan pre-SOD Award chat
Date: 09 Mar 1998 10:26:01 PST
logan's another one i really miss!!! found this on pc online. i've
missed his style so much, i couldn't even bring myself to edit out the
non-gh stuff (sorry 'bout that! it's fairly minimial, though--i think
his gh-bias is back!) but it's 100% spoiler-free (a tad out-dated, if
anything) so read on...
enjoy!
julie
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>Transcript from Logan's Pre-SOD Awards Chat
>
>Michael Logan: Hi folks! Thanks for joining me on the eve of the Soap
>Opera Digest awards which (despite that snarky comment from Miss Mimi
>Torchin in a recent issue of SOW)absolutely is the zenith of awards
>shows. I'm thrilled to be back online with you mouse pushin' wackos.
>I've missed y'all, in fact I've been going through dish withdrawal.
>So let's get crackin'!
>
>DynaRider asks: How will GH fare in the awards show?
>
>Michael Logan: I expect GH to do rather well. Best show should be a
>toss up between it and DAYS and trust me if Wendela winds up at the
>podium there are going to be some boos (and they won't all be coming
>from Ken Corday). Though the re-vote is obviously going to be fair
>and square, I do predict there is going to be some resentment if GH
>wins. I wouldn't even dare predict if the lead actress will go to
>Vanessa or Eileen, that one's too close to call, but I do think
>Ingo will win as well as Steve Burton and Sarah Brown. I truly hope
>John Ingle does not win because he bugs the crap out of me.
>
>Jenna_marie_98 asks: Hi Logan! Run into any stars yet??
>
>Michael Logan: Well, as I was driving to the grocery store this
>morning, I saw Leslie Charleson picking up her dry cleaning. Does
>that count?
>
>CHIEFKCJOE asks: Michael, you had a long talk with Kim Zimmer on the
>cloning subject. Did she seem proud of the story, or was she a bit
>hesitant?
>
>Michael Logan: Well, as you can tell from her first sentence where
>she says ''the whole damn thing scares me'' she's definitely >hesitant,
yet at the same time she's doing backflips. Not only did
>she get Cynthia Watros out of her face but she'll now be costarring
>with herself. The gal's in hog heaven... Though I haven't had a
>chance to go online lately I've been told that the response from the
>fans to the cloning story isn't all that positive and several of you
>are poking holes in your God Rauch voodoo dolls. However, I must tell
>you that this idea did not emanate from Rauch or his writers or any
>of the suits at P&G but rather it came from Miss Wendy Fishman at CBS
>who is the network exec in charge of ATWT and GL. This does not
>remotely surprise me as I worked with Miss Fishman at E! when I did
>Pure Soap and I can tell you that she is a major Days of our Lives
>fan, like, she never misses an episode. I'll say no more on that
>subject, but I'm not as bothered by this cloning story as most folks
>seem to be. Maybe I just got swept away in Zimmer's exuberance over
>the plot possibilities, but I think this actually might turn out very
>interesting and I would like to give these folks a chance. I suspect
>we'll be able to get past the weirdo cloning part of the story just
>fine and we'll eventually treat this like any other lookalike story.
>
>Michael Logan: On the subject of lookalikes, as interested as I am to
>see Ellen Wheeler return to AW as Marley, I can't help but be
>disappointed that Jensen Buchanan won't continue in both roles,
>especially after seeing today's episode, in which Jensen was so very
>moving co-starring with herself in those Vicky/Marley scenes. I think
>Jensen is doing the very best work anybody has ever done on a soap
>(an overstatement I know, but then I'm prone to them...).
>
>Michael Logan: Also, call me certifiable, but I must admit that
>Cullitoon is doing a fabulous job with the Shane/Michael deaths, and
>the acting has been beyond compare: Eplin, Peluso and (quelle
>surprise) Anna Stuart who all these years has never made an
>impression on me one way or the other. They've all been so
>magnificent, I want to hand them all Emmys. But there are no
>superlatives good enough to apply to Miss Buchanan.
>
>GCorey5103 asks: Logan I miss you on TV Guide, your replacements are
>complete bores who lack the wit and greatness you have.
>
>Michael Logan: Well, thank you, I guess. I must say I have not
>checked out the work my successors are doing. I don't believe in
>looking back. The day I left Pure Soap I never watched that show
>again either.
>
>Michael Logan: So I'm just going to have to take your word for how
>unfabulous they are.
>
>DynaRider asks: Did NLG name her baby Michaela?
>
>Michael Logan: Good grief no! Where do these rumors get started?
>
>Michael Logan: The baby's name is Katharine Grace. She was
>born last Tuesday morning 4:30 am-ish 6 pounds, 2 ounces.
>Everybody is doing sweller than swell, though Nancy did have
>to leave GH two weeks earlier than expected. This apparently didn't
>post that much of a problem. Guza just sent Alexis off to Jakarta.
>
>EllenRena asks: What is your sense about having only SOD subscribers
>vote? Which soaps will get the edge?
>
>Michael Logan: I think it's a great idea and wish they'd thought of >it
sooner because past SOD award ceremonies would have come out quite
>a bit different. By not being able to buy up unlimited issues at the
>news stand, any ballot stuffing shenanigans are eliminated. In a
>weird way, I think we should all really thank Wendela for being so,
>for lack of a better word, ingenious.
>
>Zara_79 asks: Do you think that Days of Our Lives will receive any
>awards?
>
>Michael Logan: Yes. I think they will get the best couple with John
>and Marlena.
>
>Michael Logan: They probably have a very good chance at Best Show,
>Jensen Ackles as newcomer, Ivan as scene stealer. Though I'd love to
>see Cynthia Watros win as villainess, Alison Sweeney is a formidable
>competitor.
>
>Margie85 asks: Do you think ATWT is finally on an UPSWING??
>
>Michael Logan: It appears to be. But then it also appeared to be a
>year ago when Diego was murdered. So I'm going to wait a while
>before making any pronouncements.
>
> Soapy_Waters asks: What's your take on the Kevin switcheroo at OLTL?
>
>Michael Logan: I think it's detestable.
>
>Michael Logan: Nothing against Tim Gibbs (though I do think he's too
>damn skinny to be a Buchanan), but I find Kevin Stapleton to be
>rather good and I think he got a real raw deal. But then, that's our
>JFP. ... :)
>
>Michael Logan: She's always had a habit of gathering her forces (i.e.
>stars she's worked with in the past) as some sort of cushion against
>who knows what (probably the suits who will eventually fire her). As
>always, she's dangling A Martinez (I recall these same rumors when
>JFP was at GL and AW) but at this point the official word from ABC is
>that A wants to see if he can get a pilot -- pilot season is now in
>progress -- before he makes a decision to go back to soaps.
>
>Sense1972 asks: GH seems to be leaning toward a possible return of
>Laura.Do you know if and exactly when Genie Francis will return to
>GH?
>
>Michael Logan: I believe that article in Soap Opera Magazine was a
>bunch of PR hooey on Genie's part. She is not returning to the show
>in the near future. Though she is still contracted to the network and
>must return at some point (or face what?... a lawsuit?) they are
>proceeding without her. She did however return to tape a little bit
>for the 35 anniversary special.
[damn--there goes my surprise theory. i've never known logan to
out-and-out lie. if he can't or doesn't want to tell, he'll say that he
can't or won't say, or ignore the question entirely. but lie... <sigh>
guess we shouldn't expect her back anytime soon...]
>
>Rcaden asks: Are you surprised that GH is going back to Luke's rape
>of Laura? I'm abso-freaking-lutely stunned.
>
>Michael Logan: That Guza sure has spine! I don't want to say too much
>about this right now because my column next week is all about Lucky
>finding out that Luke raped Laura. The interview is with Tony Geary
>who is very surprised that they've drug this particular skeleton out
>of the closet. I think it's going to be disturbing and amazing drama.
>When you think about it, no other genre can possibly explore a near
>20 year arc of a story like this. Already the sequences leading up to
>this with Jonathan Jackson and Geary have been remarkable. It's very
>bold. And I hope Wendela keeps her hooks off the story and lets Guza
>do his thing.
>
>
>EllenRena asks: Did I actually hear you say something positive about
>Culliton? Are you sure you're not an imposter?
>
>Michael Logan: LOL! Trust me Ellen, I'm as shocked as you are.
>
>Guest asks: Where can we expect the Labines to land next?
>
>Michael Logan: Frankly I can't imagine the Labines landing anywhere
>any time soon. Certainly ABC will not welcome them back. P&G seems to
>be comfortably staffed on all three shows right now. And they stand a
>snowball's chance in hell of working on Days or a Bill Bell show.
>
>Michael Logan: On that subject, I'm deeply disturbed by the rumors
>that JFP plans to phase out the Labine's great creation, Mel, because
>I very much believe those rumors are true. Word is, Kale Browne is
>being groomed to be a permanent fixture on the show, but I would
>think any other soap would be foolish not to grab up Stephen Markle.
>Oh, speaking of Markle, I realize this is SOD awards day, I wanted to
>share some interesting news with you about the Emmy ballot... which I
>got a look at this morning.
>
>Michael Logan: Mercifully, some of the usual suspects are not on the
>ballot (Jess Walton, fr'instance) but some who should've pulled a
>Candice Bergen (Justin Deas, fr'instance) did not. (Are we doomed to
>see him win Emmy #7?) Some lead actors -- at least in my mind they're
>leads -- put themselves in supporting which was all the rage last
>year -- Vanessa Marcil, Kimberlin Brown, Grant Aleksander, and
>Stephen Markle among them, and not that they stand much chance of
>being nominated -- Kristian Alfonso, Krista Allen-Morritt and Hunter
>Tylo. And several supporting folks (again, they're supporting in my
>opinion) put themselves in the lead category -- Sandra Nelson, Judi
>Evans Luciano, Tonya Lee Williams, Anthony Herrera, James Kiberd,
>Michael O'Leary, Kristoff St. John, and Jackie Zeman (well, I always
>waffle with her... Lead?... supporting?... Oh who cares, she's the
>best.)
>
>Michael Logan: Other oddities: Adrienne Frantz has put herself on the
>ballot in two different categories, which may be a first. She's up
>for supporting actress for SB and younger actress for B&B . Also a
>first: as you may or not know the ballot contains a photo of each
>actor, Tim Adams of SB chose to use a photo of himself without a
>shirt -- usually not the image one projects when trying to get an
>acting award. Nomination day is March 11. The Today Show will air
>some of the nominations that morning at 8:30 am ET.
>
>Rizz2u asks: What's with the rumor about Dee Hall wanting a leave
>from the show?
>
>Michael Logan: It's my understanding that the Queen of the Night
>wants a Jensen Buchanan schedule. (Too bad she's not a Jensen.)
>
>Michael Logan: However, I hear Days is not interested in negotiating
>such a deal and is playing hard ball with her Apparently, NBC which
>did not know anything about these contract troubles was quite shocked
>to find out about this.
>
>Shawna76 asks: Does SOD already know the results for tomorrow?
>
>Michael Logan: Absolutely not. This is as legit as every other award
>show.Only the accountants know the winners.
>
>Sabryn asks: Will you do another chat with SOD when the Emmy
>nominations are announced?
>
>Michael Logan: Absolutely, but nobody's asked me.
>
>SODhost: Well, will ya?
>
>Michael Logan: Call my agent.
>
>SODhost: Now who's playing hard ball?
>
>CHIEFKCJOE asks: Is Lisa Brown headed back to ATWT now permanently,
>since Rauch let her go as Nola on GL?
>
>Michael Logan: Unfortunately, no, not at this time. I usually hate to
>see these veterans go, but this Nola character has not really worked
>since Lisa returned to the show. (I blame the writers for this, not
>Lisa.) So I can't say this dismissal has come as a stunner.
>
>Sense1972 asks: What do you think about the acting and transformation
>of Brad Maule'character Tony Jones on GH? Do you think there is any
>possibility of him being connected to Lizzies attack in the park?
>
>Michael Logan: Baby you ain't seen nothin yet.
>
>Michael Logan: No he's not connected to that, but there's some really
>wacko stuff coming up.
>
>Michael Logan: Brad's performance is very Travis Bickle. This is
>going to be very interesting to watch unfold. He's always been one of
>my favorites and I think it's so amazing that he's getting all this
>story attention, considering he's a forty-ish kinda guy. It breaks
>all the rules and I love Guza for that. I remember talking with Brad
>right after the Emmy ceremony when he lost his much deserved award
>for the BJ story and he was very despondent, as well he should
>have been, and felt that that story was probably the last one he
>would ever get in this demo-mad world of daytime drama. But he's
>remained at the fore front ever since.
>
>Stefanie_D asks: Hi Logan! When will the big ''veronica'' reveal come
>on Y&R?
>
>Michael Logan: I'm not sure about the reveal date, but the
>you-know-what really hits the fan in this story the third week of
>March. BB keeps claiming this will be the most powerful story he's
>ever done on Y&R which is a very risky remark to make but then, he's
>always had balls of titanium.
>
>Pagan15 asks: What's the best soap on now-a-days?
>
>Michael Logan: Right now, this week, today it's GH. Guza has done a
>spectacular job getting the show back in shape. Call me daffy, but
>even the Webber twits are wonderful in this rape story. Herbst
>especially. (Now you really know I'm not Logan, but his evil clone
>with bad taste.)
>
>Michael Logan: The chemistry between Kimberly McCullough and the
>artist formerly known as Tyler Baker has been very interesting. I
>think we've got a supercouple in the making. On the downside, I
>really hate the Mac/Mac story and truly detest what is being done
>with the Quartermaines.
>
>Shawna76 asks: Who of the Soap Digest nominees will also be on the
>emmy ballot in your opinion?
>
>Michael Logan: Jensen Buchanan... Judi Evans Luciano...Steve
>Burton... Sarah Brown... Cynthia Watros, Jensen Ackles...
>
>DianneO asks: Please, for us MPW's, do a weekly SOD chat. Please, oh
>please.
>
>Michael Logan: Send your cards and letters to Lynn Leahey, but send
>your cash to me. I love you guys! And would truly love to do this
>more often. They tell me that I'm out of time now, so we'll see ya!
>Thanks for joining me!
>
>
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From: "Fred & Rickie Yopp" <yopp@rightathome.com>
Subject: GH/PC: Carly
Date: 09 Mar 1998 21:14:31 -0800
How stupid can you been to leave your baby to answer the phone. Why didn't
Carly take the baby with her? Then to look under the sofa for the baby.
Get real!!!! Why in the world did she call Bobbi?
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From: Danielle Graham <DGraham@bn.com>
Subject: GH/PC: GH/PC - Carly
Date: 10 Mar 1998 09:09:37 -0500
How stupid can you been to leave your baby to answer the phone. Why
didn't
Carly take the baby with her? Then to look under the sofa for the baby.
Get real!!!! Why in the world did she call Bobbi?
That was hysterical. Yeah, and where were any of the bodyguards when
this happened? The best was Carly looking under the sofa!....Also, how
did Lucky know who to just find the info regarding the rape in the park?
I know Nikolas, thru his miraculous recovery, told him to check out Oct.
8th, but really.
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From: Cagey <cagey@geocities.com>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: Carly
Date: 10 Mar 1998 16:02:49 -0800
One of the Yopps wrote:
>How stupid can you been to leave your baby to answer the phone. Why didn't
>Carly take the baby with her? Then to look under the sofa for the baby.
>Get real!!!! Why in the world did she call Bobbi?
Both Taiyin and I missed Friday's GH, so I'd be glad if someone filled me
in on the exact details? Didn't Carly have a bodyguard with her, or do
they only protect her when she's in the penthouse. I realize that for
Michael to get snatched there couldn't have been a guard there <g>, but I'm
fuzzy on the mechanics of being a mobster's moll ;)
As for "How stupid...." Granted, it probably wasn't the wisest thing in
the world that Carly's ever done. But if you're in a public place in which
you are well known, it's not that unlikely that you would rather leave the
kid in his stroller, content, than carry him with you to answer the phone a
few feet away. In normal circumstances, you would probably expect the kid
to be fine.
Of course, Taiyin and I both missed Monday's GH as well <grrrr>, but I
caught today's, and was very impressed.
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John Ingle was superb. Hands down, absolutely wonderful, both in his
reactions to the cops and his interaction with Carly. Go John.
And Taggert's "pep talk" was fabulous <g>.
--kg
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From: "Fred & Rickie Yopp" <yopp@rightathome.com>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: Carly
Date: 10 Mar 1998 16:16:59 -0800
Carly didn't have a bodyguard with her. When she was told she had a phone
call went to the desk and left the stroller behind. I know it's only a
soap, BUT she could have taken the stroller with her. When she started
looking for the baby, the first place she looked was under the sofa, as if
he got out and crawled under it. I still don't know why she called Bobbi.
She said she was the first person she thought of. Thats kind of hard to
understand. Then Bobbie turned to her and reamed her out for not being more
carefully with the baby, and was real rude to Carly. I guess it wouldn't
be a soap otherwise would it? Rickie
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> From: Cagey <cagey@geocities.com>
> To: port-charles@lists.xmission.com
> Subject: Re: GH/PC: Carly
> Date: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 4:02 PM
>
>
> One of the Yopps wrote:
>
> >How stupid can you been to leave your baby to answer the phone. Why
didn't
> >Carly take the baby with her? Then to look under the sofa for the baby.
> >Get real!!!! Why in the world did she call Bobbi?
>
> Both Taiyin and I missed Friday's GH, so I'd be glad if someone filled me
> in on the exact details? Didn't Carly have a bodyguard with her, or do
> they only protect her when she's in the penthouse. I realize that for
> Michael to get snatched there couldn't have been a guard there <g>, but
I'm
> fuzzy on the mechanics of being a mobster's moll ;)
>
> As for "How stupid...." Granted, it probably wasn't the wisest thing in
> the world that Carly's ever done. But if you're in a public place in
which
> you are well known, it's not that unlikely that you would rather leave
the
> kid in his stroller, content, than carry him with you to answer the phone
a
> few feet away. In normal circumstances, you would probably expect the
kid
> to be fine.
>
> Of course, Taiyin and I both missed Monday's GH as well <grrrr>, but I
> caught today's, and was very impressed.
> S
> P
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>
> John Ingle was superb. Hands down, absolutely wonderful, both in his
> reactions to the cops and his interaction with Carly. Go John.
>
> And Taggert's "pep talk" was fabulous <g>.
>
> --kg
>
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From: Danielle Graham <DGraham@bn.com>
Subject: GH/PC: GH-Scotty
Date: 11 Mar 1998 08:40:11 -0500
How cool was it to see Scotty Baldwin actually back on GH? Bob Guza is
using all the people he can, since Genie isn't there, to give the full
info on the Laura rape story! How about Lucky just strolling into the
records room & accessing the computer? Doesn't anyone work there?
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From: Danielle Graham <DGraham@bn.com>
Subject: GH/PC: Emmys
Date: 11 Mar 1998 09:06:55 -0500
has anyone heard the Emmy nominations this a.m.? Was anyone from GH
nominated?
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From: "Gina Clayton" <GCLAYTON@LES.LES.SC.EDU>
Subject: GH/PC: Emmy Nominations
Date: 11 Mar 1998 11:30:51 EST5EDT
Here are the nominations as I heard them..
GH received a total of 16, coming in third of all the soaps. Y&R
has 18, and AMC has 17. PC received 2. OLTL received 0!!
enjoy!!
gina
Outstanding Drama:
AMC
DOOL
GH
Y&R
Outstanding Leading Actress
Susan Lucci (Erica) AMC
Eileen Davidson (Kristin, Susan, and two other roles ) DOOL
JACKIE ZEMAN GH
Cynthia Watros (Annie) GL
Kim Zimmer (Reva) GL
Outstanding Lead Actor
David Canary (Stuart/Adam) AMC
TONY GEARY GH
KIN SHRINER PC
Eric Braeden (Victor) Y&R
Peter Bergman (Jack) Y&R
Outstanding Supporting Actress
Julia Barr (Brooke) AMC
Amy Carlson (Josie) AW
Amy Ecklund (Abby) GL
VANESSA MARCIL GH
Victoria Rowell (Drucilla) Y&R
Outstanding Supporting Actor
Michael Knight (Tad) AMC
Ian Buchannan (James) B&B
STEVE BURTON GH
Grant Aleksander (Phillip) GL
Scott Reeves (Ryan) Y&R
Outstanding Younger Actress
Rhona Kendrick (Toni)AW
Christie Clark (Carrie) DOOL
SARAH BROWN GH
Carryn Grimes (Cassie) Y&R
Heather Tom (Y&R)
Outstanding Younger Actor
Jensen Ackles (Eric) DOOL
TYLER CHRISTOPHER GH
JONATHON JACKSON GH
Kevin Mambo (Marcus) GL
Bryant Sones (Nate) Y&R)
Joshua Morrow (Nicholas)Y&R
Outstanding Writing
AMC
DOOL
GH
Y&R
Outstanding Direction
ANC
DOOL
GH
Y&R
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From: "Donald K Gooden" <dkgooden@email.msn.com>
Subject: GH/PC: Spoilers and tidbits
Date: 12 Mar 1998 17:55:48 -0500
Spoilers and other various tidbits
Jamila
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Next Week in TV Guide
In next weeks issue of TV Guide, Michael Logan interviews Brad Maule! In the
article he reveals that not only is Tony behind the Baby Michael kidnapping,
but he will be kidnapping Robin too! You can read about it at TV Guide
Online. That article is located at:
http://www.tvgen.com/tv/magazine/980309/soaps.htm
Crossovers
Michael Dietz (Joe Scanlon) is the doctor on call on March 31 when Robin is
brought in for non-AIDS-related pneumonia... Susan Brown (Gail Baldwin)
shows up as the head of a group for rape victims on April 1...
Headwriter Bob Guza shares his thoughts on the possibility of recasting the
part of Laura Spencer, should Genie Francis decide not to return.
Rex goes bye bye
Wayne Northrop's stint as PC's Resident Evil, Rex Stanton, has come to an
end- for now. Rex's parting shots will be on March 10th. But a return for
Rex is definately in PC's future story plans, but not for a while.
Taggert's Home
Real Andrews is back in full force as Taggert, and this time it's for good.
With Soldiers Of Fortune, Inc. canceled- GH offered Andrews a contract and a
bigger role on the show (including a triangle with Justus and Dara).
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From: "Julie Saker" <jesaker@hotmail.com>
Subject: GH/PC: kidnapped babies and emerald rings
Date: 13 Mar 1998 07:28:25 PST
my goodness we've been quiet lately...
two things. first of all, regarding gh--i don't get this whole vow of
secrecy about the kidnapping thing. it makes no sense to me. "go on
acting as normal and don't say anything to everyone"...and, WHAT...
the kidnapper will think, "oh gee, maybe they didn't NOTICE their baby
was gone?!?" if the point here is to not spook the kidnapper, it just
doesn't make much sense to me. OBVIOUSLY the kidnapper knows the baby
is missing, and knows THEY know the baby is missing, and knows they're
not going to just say "oh well, michael's gone. pass the salt please."
so who exactly are they fooling here?
secondly, about pc...WHAT ON EARTH IS LUCY THINKING??? i can understand
this whole staying-married-to-rex-to-bleed-him-dry thing. but wanting
to keep that emerald ring??? how COULD she? if i were kevin i would
NOT be happy about that. and if i were lucy, i wouldn't even WANT it.
i don't care how gorgeous or expensive it is, it would still be a
reminder of HIM. yuck.
that's all for now.
julie
p.s. i lied--one more thing. even I'M getting curious about those
apples now...taiyin, i hope you get to the bottom of this on your set
visit!!!
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From: Danielle Graham <DGraham@bn.com>
Subject: GH/PC: GH - kidnapping
Date: 13 Mar 1998 10:52:56 -0500
my goodness we've been quiet lately..
I was just thinking that, too!
I don't get this whole vow of
secrecy about the kidnapping thing. it makes no sense to me. "go on
acting as normal and don't say anything to everyone"...and, WHAT...
the kidnapper will think, "oh gee, maybe they didn't NOTICE their baby
was gone?!?"
I thoroughly agree w/that! And sorry, the cat's outta the bag that it's
going to be Tony who took Michael. Jason's the head of this s'posedly
huge organization & a doctor can just take a baby and hide him from
them??? It is giving some depth to the story though. Like what else can
surprise Bobbi these days, 1st Carly being her daughter, Luke knowing &
the fact that her ex-husband left her for her daughter.....throw in that
Tony kidnapped her grandson!!! I have to say though, Jackie Zeman is
putting in some stellar performances! And I almost...almost I said..feel
sorry for Carly these days! And wasn't the performance by Real Andrews'
Taggart an applause winner! I'm glad TPTB are giving him some material
to work with. Now, if only Sonny was there for him to play off of! I'm a
dreamer, I admit it!!!
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From: "Gina Clayton" <GCLAYTON@LES.LES.SC.EDU>
Subject: GH/PC: What scenes would you send??
Date: 13 Mar 1998 12:04:09 EST5EDT
this is for a little bit of fun.....now that the emmy nominations
have been announced, what scenes would you send in for each
catagory that GH was nominated for?? I put some ideas in, but I'm
drawing a blank and haven't had time to really think about it.
I believe there is a time limit from which you can pick the scenes
from, but I'm not sure what it is. Anyone know??(can they use
Lizzie's rape stuff?)
HAVE FUN!!
Outstanding Drama: the shooting at Luke's, the black-out at the
Grille, Lucky finding Lizzie in the park and Lizzie at
the spencer's after the rape. (can they use that??)
Outstanding Direction:
Outstanding Writing:
Outstanding Lead Actress:
JACKIE ZEMAN (bobbie) the black-out at the Grille, Stefan throwing
her out of Wyndemere.(lots of good stuff to pick from)
Outstanding Lead Actor:
TONY GEARY (luke) the shooting at Luke's, the recent rape scenes.(the
list goes on...) I also love the scenes between
Alexis and Luke:)
Outstanding Best Young Actor:
TYLER CHRISTOPHER (nikolas) the shooting at Luke's
JONATHON JACKSON (lucky) finding Lizzie in the park (can they use
that??)
Outstanding Young Actress:
SARAH BROWN(carly) take your pick....umm...Carly tearing into Tony,
the black-out the the PC Grille. (the list goes on....)
Outstanding Supporting Actor
STEVE BURTON (jason) the break-up of Robin and Jason at the
hospital
Outstanding Supporting Actress
VANESSA MARCIL (brenda) Sonny leaving her at the alter, her
break-down at the photo-shoot.
Outstanding Art Decoration/Set Decoration/Scenic Design:
Wyndemere (lol)
Outstanding Music Direction&Composition:
J&R song, S&B song..(and the list goes on....)
Outstanding Make-Up:
Outstanding Hair Styling:
Luke and Tony ;) (lol) The Nurse's Ball
Outstanding Costume Design:
The Nurse's Ball
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From: "Gina Clayton" <GCLAYTON@LES.LES.SC.EDU>
Subject: GH/PC: nominations
Date: 13 Mar 1998 11:00:34 EST5EDT
hey everybody!! things sure have been quiet around here. I will
admit GH has been slower lately. What is the overall opinion about
the February sweeps stories?? I think they were good. I hope things
pick up again soon. I heard that Mon. is supposed to be some of Tony
Geary's best acting to date. I can't wait.
Gotta run...going back to work:(:(
BTW.....what do ya'll think about the Emmy Nominations??
see ya!
gina (who keeps chanting TGIF to get me through the day!!:D)
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From: Danielle Graham <DGraham@bn.com>
Subject: GH/PC: GH/PC Nominations
Date: 13 Mar 1998 12:27:57 -0500
I will
admit GH has been slower lately. What is the overall opinion about
the February sweeps stories??
For the most part I think the show's been moving along. There's always
days where the storyline has to be laid out to build up. Take the
Michael kidnapping storyline. There's so many wholes in that story right
now, but I'm sure it'll pan out with so much more later one, especially
w/Tony....Isn't Brad Maule doing some great acting these days? Could
have done w/out the shaving of his head though? (what were they thinking
w/that one???) And who's not waiting for Tony Geary to get some material
to react to??? I can't wait for that one either!!!
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From: Taiyin and Cagey <sigmund@xmission.com>
Subject: GH/PC: Set Tour
Date: 13 Mar 1998 12:15:01 -0800
Well, it's only taken a few days to recover, but Cagey and I are here in
LA, dying of the heat, and I am still a seriously happy camper over the set
tour.
So, details (spoilers at the very end)...
Well, we went on Tuesday morning, we needed to be there at 9:15 a.m.
because Jon and Lynn were both supposed to be taping around 9:00. Of
course I was awake and staring at the ceiling at about 5:00 a.m., so we
were a bit early.
We finally found the right gate and made our way to the studio. We got
pictures of ourselves in front of the Emergency sign that they use on the
oudoor set, which is actually the main enterance to the building.
The girl who was taking us around led us out of the GH building and to the
PC one. We slipped onto the set and made our way to the back, where we sat
(and where I shamelessly drooled) and we watched Jon and Lynn shoot three
of their four scenes. The crew was all very sweet; some of the guys gave
up their chairs so we wouldn't have to stand, and everyone kept offering to
get us something to drink.
Sunny (the girl who was giving us the tour) seemed to think we were bored
with the shooting process. HA! They were having some technical problems,
and you could tell (especially from Lynn) that things were not running as
smoothly as they usually did.
And right about here I have to break and say that Anne and Razz were 100%
dead on with their report: Lynn Herring is beyond beautiful. WAY beyond.
She was gorgeous. Best of all, though, she was gracious and very sweet and
funny and friendly.
So we watched them work and in the middle of it Lisa Ann Hanley, who plays
Julie, showed up and was talking and joking around with the crew while they
were blocking and rehersing for K&L's scenes. Sunny brought her over to
meet us. She was also very sweet and said that she just got online about
four months ago, and is enjoying it, but hasn't got it all figured out yet.
She was very cute and animated, and DAMN, that girl is tiny.
After the third item Sunny went and got Jon and Lynn, because our clock was
ticking down, and, after all, we were there to meet them. She brought them
over and both of them were seriously cool. We told them that we ran a
Kevin & Lucy list, and Lynn, who doesn't have internet conncetivity at all,
wanted to know what exactly that meant. Jon asked if it was like a newsgroup.
Jon, BTW, looked sensational also (big shock there). He was wearing a
gorgeous, slightly billowy, off-white shirt -- almost a poets shirt, dark
charcoal grey pants and a VERY nice dark burgendy blazer.
So we talked for a few minutes, but they had to get back to work and we had
some more stuff to see, so we said good-bye and Sunny took us upstairs to
see who else we could find. We went into the make-up room and Julie Pinson
and Lisa Ann were there.
About that time it occured to me that I forgot to ask Jon and Lynn WHAT the
hell is up with Kin and those apples, so I figured Julie would be the next
best person to ask. She said that Kin just wanted something that he could
turn into an on-running joke, and he did eat apples all the time. It
didn't start out of anything other than Kin's desire for a little amusment.
;-)
So Cagey pulled the apples out of her bag that we bought to give Kin (who
didn't end up coming in until after we left). I pulled out the green one
and handed it to Julie and said: "Here. Give this to Kin -- just for a
little variety."
She laughed and said that they JUST shot an ep where he ate a green apple,
but that she'd give it to him for us.
And Lisa Ann asked whose birthday it was. I'm still not sure where that
question came from, because *I* never said it was my birthday, and for all
I know she was speaking to someone else entirely, but I said that mine was
last week, and she was just really sweet and sincere. (Cagey says: I told
them it was Taiyin's birthday <g>)
So Sunny took us upstairs to the dressing rooms, but most of them were
empty. The only person up there was Michael Deitz. That boy looks AWESOME
in his glasses. Simply awesome. But even cooler was the five and a half
month old puppy he had bounding out the door as soon as he opened it. She
was SO cute, I only wish I remembered her name.
Of course, I chose that moment to have foot-in-mouth disease. The phrase,
"Oh! Even the actors aren't as cute as the puppy!" popped out of my mouth.
Thankfully Cagey smacked me in the arm, because that was NOT what I meant
to say (just shoot me. I've had puppy fever lately and she was ADORABLE).
Sunny then took us downstairs again, and on our way back downstairs we ran
into Nolan North (Chris) and Rib Hillis (Jake) downstairs. They were so
funny. Rib hadn't heard them call his scene, and as Rib went tearing to
the set, Sunny commented to Nolan something along the lines of "Sorry we
stole your playmate." Nolan looked at us and said, "We run around here
like a couple of kids."
But at various times several people put Sunny on the spot a bit and asked
us if we were going to get to see the GH set, too. (Cagey says: I will be
eternally grateful to Lisa Ann--she was the first who asked, and she made
it sound ludicrous that we *wouldn't* see the GH set, and Sunny felt
obliged. Thank you Lisa Ann!!)
Anyway, we headed back to the PC set, because Jon and Lynn were wrapping
up. We were WAY off to the side, but Lynn saw us and waved frantically.
As they wrapped and went to leave, they said good-bye again, and I
shanghaied them for a picture. We got two shots of all four us of. Jon,
me, Cagey, and Lynn all in a line, and then when Sunny asked if we wanted a
second one just in case, Lynn said, "Switch!" and she and Jon switched
places on either end of the line.
We didn't get to talk much, but I did <ahem> manage to ask Jon how long he
planned to keep the beard. <g> He said, "Until I get tired of it." And he
didn't sound as though it would be ANYTIME real soon. He said that he had
to shave it Wednesday night after work for something, but that he'd be
growing it back over the weekend (he and Lynn only worked Monday -
Wednesday this week). (Cagey says: I think Taiyin is just gullible <g>)
Lynn asked if my question about his beard was a complaint and I almost
tripped over my tongue saying no, certainly NOT a complaint. (Cagey says:
She nobly refrained from comment! Bwahaha!)
So Jon and Lynn had to go -- Jon is doing a crossover to GH, and he was
being ushered off to John York's dressing room (after a bit of humorous
commentary on the fact that he still has his OWN dressing room over there
"with his name on it and everything"). So Sunny took us down the set a bit
to see the next scene they were shooting.
Jake, Frank and Lark were in it together, but we didn't get to watch for
long, because we were on the clock and hitting our time limit. (Cagey
says: We didn't get to meet Jay Pickett, but he looks just as intense in
real life as he does onscreen.) So on our way back to the offices (to give
Sunny our addresses so she could send us autographed copies of the script
and pictures) we swung through the GH set. Since we weren't cleared ahead
of time to be there, though, we mostly just walked through -- we saw a few
sets, Cassadines in particular. One of them, though, was one we haven't
seen before. We couldn't tell whose it was supposed to be and Sunny didn't
know, either.
When we got there, though, they were shooting a scene with Jonathon Jackson
(couldn't see who, if anyone, else was in the scene), and Sunny ushered us
out because it was "top secret" and we weren't supposed to see it.
She took us through the halls of GH dressing rooms and we ran smack into
Jon coming out of John York's dressing room, heading towards the set. He
was wearing a very nice dark suit. :-)
She checked the schedule and though there were lots of people on it, the
building was pretty deserted. She went to Billy Warlock's dressing room to
find him and found Real Andrews (Taggart) instead. So he came out and
talked to us. He was SUCH a ham. Cracked me up. He asked us all kinds of
questions, including what we thought of Taggart. I said that I liked
Taggart except when he was sexually harrassing Dara. He got this sort of
crooked smirk on his face and said, "Sexually harrassing? But she's the
ADA, if anyone can smack him down it would be her." At which point I
clarified what I meant: What I don't like is that she lets him get away
with it.
He grinned and said, "Yeah, she shoulda smacked me a couple of times, huh?"
Then he talked about the SOD Awards and how much fun they were. He told us
about a billboard that he and a few other soap guys had (supposedly on
Santa Monica Blvd.). We've been up and down that road about 20 times this
week and have yet to spot it, though. We got a picture with him (Cagey
says: Real has animal magnetism by the barrell-full. Mrrooowr) and then
he told Sunny why we couldn't find any of the people who were on the
schedule: they were all on the schedule because they were updating the
credits, so they all came in, were there for fifteen minutes, and then left.
We said good-bye to him, and headed out. Sunny tried one more time to find
some more people around for us to meet, so Cagey and I waited in the hall,
at which point Cagey pointed out a poster that I SOMEHOW managed to miss:
Kevin and Lucy in a bathtub, fully clothed (or as "fully clothed" as they
EVER dress Lynn, anyway), with Sigmund sitting on the edge. But the
coolest part was that the shot was taken from directly above the tub,
looking straight down on them. Their heads were at opposite ends of the
tub, and their legs were all tangled together, and they were both looking
up at the camera.
At the bottom of the full-sized poster (which I would sell almost any
relative I have to get) there was Lucy's "Chardonnay, Debussy, my man and
my duck" quote from a few years ago. And there was the slogan from one of
their old promos "(more tomorrow)" below that. (At which point I believe I
started ranting, yet AGAIN, about the fact that, the shot of Ned and Lois
hanging on the opposite wall was from that same campaign and that any
online GH fan would have to hurt themselves to try to avoid tripping over
it, but die-hard K&L fans couldn't find THEIR promo shots anywhere to save
their lives. Grump.)
Cagey pointed out that while breaking the glass on the frame, and ripping
the picture from the wall would probably NOT be the coolest idea in the
world, we COULD take a picture of it. So we'll have to wait and see how it
turns out.
Other observations: the sets looked really, really small. It seemed
strange, because they didn't seem NEARLY as big as they do on-screen.
The scenes they shot are on the revised version of the old lighthouse set.
On screen the remodel job annoys me because it looks all beige, and too
similar to the den set for my enjoyment. But in real life the set is
actually a lot of greys and light blues.
Now, spoilers....
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Well, the K&L scenes we saw them shoot were very cool, and DEFINITELY
storyline turning point on a couple of different levels.
For starters, Lucy is reading a murder mystery, written by Anomynon, and
the character named "Nancy" seems to bear an uncanny resemblence to our Ms.
Coe. At the beginning of the ep Lucy is furious and throwing the book
across the room, because Nancy was killed "at the Nurses' Ball." Kevin
walks in the door just as she pelts the book, and then Lucy launches into a
tirade about how she knows that Rex was the author of this book and he's
just doing it to torture her and he's enjoying killing her in effigy.
As Lucy is about to launch into some sort of legal action against Rex, Doc
confesses that he knows who the author is: he wrote the book himself,
while Lucy was living at the hotel and then with Rex. It was his own form
of therapy to deal with everything that happened. And the only reason that
his name wasn't on the cover was because the publisher was trying to drum
up mystery to boost sales.
Lucy's reaction is less than delighted. She is upset that Kevin didn't
tell her, but then the little bit about Lucy not being the world's greatest
secret keeper came up. She tried to defend herself by declaring that she
COULD keep secrets... at which point (thank you, Lynn Latham!!) we get
Kevin reminding her about the time that she took all of his paintings to
the Outback for the whole town to see.
The other interesting bit in there is that **Victor is living with them at
the Lighthouse.**
He returns from a walk to the duck pond as they are discussing the book,
and heads upstairs to take a bath and finish the "remarkable book he found
on the hall table." He takes one look at Kevin, snickers "Anomynon" and
heads upstairs.
And THEN, the last interesting bit, and the one that is in all likelihood,
the BIG storyline on their horizon: apparently at the end of Kevin's book
(which is called "General Homicide," btw) there is a scene that Victor
recognizes (I couldn't hear exactly what it was, because that was the last
scene they shot and we weren't very close to the set at the time, and we
missed most of the rehersals) from Kevin's childhood. Victor says to
Kevin: "I didn't think you remembered that." Kevin's reaction is shock,
because he DOESN'T remember anything and has no idea what Victor is talking
about. (Cagey says: Another possible take, because the dialogue was a bit
vague out of context, is that Kevin somehow vented his feelings about his
relationship with his father in the book, and Victor picked up on it. But
I was further away from the set at that point, so Taiyin probably heard the
dialogue more clearly than I did.)
The whole tone of it, though, was the "beginning of a mystery" thing.
Kevin tried questioning Victor about what he meant, but Victor back-tracked
and never really said.
And then the only non-K&L spoiler we have is kinda spooky, actually: Lark
and Jake start dating, she lies about her name and age, they SLEEP TOGETHER
<shudder> and then Lark sets them both up for Frank to find half dressed in
Jake's apartment.
And, as another aside, I must say that Jay Pickett (Frank) is incredibly
good looking in RL(tm), too. And, as Cagey noted, he is every bit as
intense in real life as he is in character.
Anyway, the scene we watched part of had Frank freaking out and Jake trying
to fix things, while Lark was being a twerp again.
And that was about it. Sunny took us back to the office, we gave her our
addresses, we told her which actors we'd like autographs from, and we split.
(Cagey says: We were supposed to get lunch in the commissary, but they
didn't mention it at all! I'm very bummed about that. Also, we left a
card for Nancy Grahn and the baby. Sunny said that mom and baby are doing
very, very well, and Nancy's still out for maternity leave. And we looked
for Tony Geary's gold Porsche in the parking lot, but didn't seat it.)
And the reason ya'll didn't get this report on Tuesday night was because we
came home and I nearly imploded and it's taken me this long to recover. ;-)
Taiyin and Cagey
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From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: kidnapped babies and emerald rings
Date: 13 Mar 1998 14:12:03 -0800
At 07:28 AM 3/13/98 PST, Julie Saker wrote:
>
>secondly, about pc...WHAT ON EARTH IS LUCY THINKING???
Amne to that. Ugh. She's totally cracked. But thank GODS that kevin
pointed out that, once again, Snotty was sticking his BIG FAT STUPID nose
in something that is NONE OF HIS BUSINESS.
>p.s. i lied--one more thing. even I'M getting curious about those
>apples now...taiyin, i hope you get to the bottom of this on your set
>visit!!!
Yup. Sure did.
Taiyin
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From: AnneBPT <AnneBPT@aol.com>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: Set Tour
Date: 13 Mar 1998 22:09:12 EST
Wow, it sounds like you had a great time! I knew you would though, everyone
down there was really nice to us when we went on the GH set, especially Wally,
Lynn and Jon.
I've been busy with work and life, so not much time to respond lately, but I
had to throw in a minor correction here:
You write:
<< And right about here I have to break and say that Anne and Razz were 100%
dead on with their report: Lynn Herring is beyond beautiful. WAY beyond.
She was gorgeous. Best of all, though, she was gracious and very sweet and
funny and friendly.>>
Nope, I'm not going to say anything like Lynn is not gorgeous. She is still
the most beautiful woman I've ever seen, more so because she is so friendly
and down to earth.
But I didn't go to the GH set with Razz. I went with my friend Maureen who
lives in Boston and flew out with me. It does get confusing since my friend
Mo has been out a few times to LA with me. She's gone to see THL and Mark's
band a couple of times. But anyway, they are two different people. Maybe Razz
agrees with all of us about Lynn, I wouldn't doubt it <g>.
Anne
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From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
Subject: GH/PC: Set Tour Pix
Date: 16 Mar 1998 22:16:16 -0800
Well, Cagey and I managed to only get three pictures (other than the
picture of the poster of K&L -- which DIDN'T TURN OUT!!! <grrrrrrrr>), but
they are up on my K&L Page now.
http://www.taiyin.net/lighthouse/
Under Set Tour.
Taiyin
"What did I do before I had you?"
--"You were lost and confused."
-- Lucy and Kevin
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From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
Subject: GH/PC: Matt (SPOILERS)
Date: 16 Mar 1998 12:31:01 -0800
Whoa.
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Did we not know that was coming or did I just skim through the spoilers too
quickly?
I think Matt should definitely get the Quartermaine Residency now. Alan
and Monica originally wanted it to go to Jason, so I think it's rather
poetic that since Jason gave up medicine for the mob, it should go to Matt,
since he gave up the mob for medicine. ;-)
Taiyin
"By all means, please, sacrifice me on the
altar of your amusement. It's the least I
can contribute to your evening." -- Kevin
<taiyin@taiyin.net> http://www.taiyin.net/
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From: "Fred & Rickie Yopp" <yopp@rightathome.com>
Subject: GH/PC: GH/PC
Date: 16 Mar 1998 12:40:17 -0800
Haven't seen PortCharles or yet. You must be ahead of me seeing the soap.
When will Chris get his come up'ems. He deserves whatever he gets. Why is
he so nasty towards Matt. Why is Chris short of money, and why is he giving
his dad money. Could it be that he is related to the Mancuso Mob Family?
Wouldn't that be a twisted story line.
Would also like to know why Ned is always on AJ's back. He acts like he is
threatened by AJ everytime he comes up with a plan of some sort. Did
something happen in the past that I missed that caused Ned to feel this
way.
Anyone have any input on this.
Rickie:-)
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From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: GH/PC
Date: 16 Mar 1998 12:54:56 -0800
At 12:40 PM 3/16/98 -0800, Fred & Rickie Yopp wrote:
>When will Chris get his come up'ems.
Not for a while, I'm sure.
>He deserves whatever he gets. Why is
>he so nasty towards Matt.
I don't think he's nasty towards Matt, specifically. I think he's
desperate, selfish and totally unethical. But I don't think it's anything
personal towards Matt. I think if it was one of the other interns standing
between him and the Q Residency, he'd be doing the same kinds of things.
>Why is Chris short of money, and why is he giving
>his dad money. Could it be that he is related to the Mancuso Mob Family?
>Wouldn't that be a twisted story line.
<snicker> That would be amusing. Not too likely, though.
And as for Chris' financial troubles... he's not as rich as he leads people
to believe he is. His money all came from an insurance settlement from a
car accident he was in. He's been living off that, and he's near the
bottom of that particular barrel these days. That's why he is desperate to
get the residency: it's the only way to maintain himself in the lifestyle
to which he's become accustomed.
>Would also like to know why Ned is always on AJ's back. He acts like he is
>threatened by AJ everytime he comes up with a plan of some sort. Did
>something happen in the past that I missed that caused Ned to feel this
>way.
There is a lot of old history between those two.
For starters is the fact that AJ and Ned have ALWAYS competed to be the
apple of Edward's eye. No matter how much lip service either of them might
give to not caring what the old man thinks, BOTH of them have been known to
turn themselves into human pretzles to keep him happy.
Jason was the neutral one, who didn't care about ELQ and was too much of a
saint to get involved in the unethical stuff the family was doing, which is
the ONLY reason (IMO) that Ned never competed with him. Jason was going
into medicine, and so he never got involved with ELQ (except to oppose the
incinderator project), and he was never a threat to Ned's position as the
Heir Apparent.
That is another bone of contention between them: Ned actively blames AJ
for Jason's accident. AJ does, too, but to a lesser degree (and not as
much these days as he used to). The rest of the family has, in many ways,
forgiven AJ (as much as any of the Qs are capable of actual forgiveness)
for injuring Jason, but Ned hasn't.
Then there is always Julia Barrett. After Julia left Ned, she got involved
with AJ. That ticked Ned off BIG TIME.
It's just a combination of factors, really. Ned and AJ are in direct
competition with each other on a daily basis, because they choose to work
and function in the same circles. If one of them would remove himself from
ELQ and Edward's domain, they'd probably co-exist a little more easily.
Back in the old days, before Ned married Jennie, Ned's primary competitor
for ELQ and Edward's praise was Alan. Ned and Alan made a vie for control
of ELQ and Ned ended up winning, and that was when Alan returned to
medicine for good. He hasn't looked back since. But shortly after that AJ
became old enough to throw him into that arena to take his father's place.
And since then it's been Alan Junior, instead of Alan Senior, who goes
toe-to-toe with Ned on a regular basis.
Taiyin
"By all means, please, sacrifice me on the
altar of your amusement. It's the least I
can contribute to your evening." -- Kevin
<taiyin@taiyin.net> http://www.taiyin.net/
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From: "Fred & Rickie Yopp" <yopp@rightathome.com>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: GH/PC
Date: 16 Mar 1998 12:58:01 -0800
Thanks for the update Taiyin. Enjoy the message board
----------
> From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
> To: port-charles@lists.xmission.com
> Subject: Re: GH/PC: GH/PC
> Date: Monday, March 16, 1998 12:54 PM
>
> At 12:40 PM 3/16/98 -0800, Fred & Rickie Yopp wrote:
> >When will Chris get his come up'ems.
>
> Not for a while, I'm sure.
>
> >He deserves whatever he gets. Why is
> >he so nasty towards Matt.
>
> I don't think he's nasty towards Matt, specifically. I think he's
> desperate, selfish and totally unethical. But I don't think it's
anything
> personal towards Matt. I think if it was one of the other interns
standing
> between him and the Q Residency, he'd be doing the same kinds of things.
>
> >Why is Chris short of money, and why is he giving
> >his dad money. Could it be that he is related to the Mancuso Mob
Family?
> >Wouldn't that be a twisted story line.
>
> <snicker> That would be amusing. Not too likely, though.
>
> And as for Chris' financial troubles... he's not as rich as he leads
people
> to believe he is. His money all came from an insurance settlement from a
> car accident he was in. He's been living off that, and he's near the
> bottom of that particular barrel these days. That's why he is desperate
to
> get the residency: it's the only way to maintain himself in the
lifestyle
> to which he's become accustomed.
>
> >Would also like to know why Ned is always on AJ's back. He acts like he
is
> >threatened by AJ everytime he comes up with a plan of some sort. Did
> >something happen in the past that I missed that caused Ned to feel this
> >way.
>
> There is a lot of old history between those two.
>
> For starters is the fact that AJ and Ned have ALWAYS competed to be the
> apple of Edward's eye. No matter how much lip service either of them
might
> give to not caring what the old man thinks, BOTH of them have been known
to
> turn themselves into human pretzles to keep him happy.
>
> Jason was the neutral one, who didn't care about ELQ and was too much of
a
> saint to get involved in the unethical stuff the family was doing, which
is
> the ONLY reason (IMO) that Ned never competed with him. Jason was going
> into medicine, and so he never got involved with ELQ (except to oppose
the
> incinderator project), and he was never a threat to Ned's position as the
> Heir Apparent.
>
> That is another bone of contention between them: Ned actively blames AJ
> for Jason's accident. AJ does, too, but to a lesser degree (and not as
> much these days as he used to). The rest of the family has, in many
ways,
> forgiven AJ (as much as any of the Qs are capable of actual forgiveness)
> for injuring Jason, but Ned hasn't.
>
> Then there is always Julia Barrett. After Julia left Ned, she got
involved
> with AJ. That ticked Ned off BIG TIME.
>
> It's just a combination of factors, really. Ned and AJ are in direct
> competition with each other on a daily basis, because they choose to work
> and function in the same circles. If one of them would remove himself
from
> ELQ and Edward's domain, they'd probably co-exist a little more easily.
>
> Back in the old days, before Ned married Jennie, Ned's primary competitor
> for ELQ and Edward's praise was Alan. Ned and Alan made a vie for
control
> of ELQ and Ned ended up winning, and that was when Alan returned to
> medicine for good. He hasn't looked back since. But shortly after that
AJ
> became old enough to throw him into that arena to take his father's
place.
> And since then it's been Alan Junior, instead of Alan Senior, who goes
> toe-to-toe with Ned on a regular basis.
>
> Taiyin
> "By all means, please, sacrifice me on the
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From: Cagey <cagey@geocities.com>
Subject: GH/PC: ADMIN: List Rules
Date: 16 Mar 1998 13:55:57 -0800 (PST)
Just a reminder of the list rules for all. In addition to
keeping quotations from other posts to a minimum, and
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From: "Fred & Rickie Yopp" <yopp@rightathome.com>
Subject: GH/PC: todays show 3/16
Date: 16 Mar 1998 15:13:03 -0800
What great acting Johnathon Jackson (Lucky) did today. He makes every
everything so real. The whole GH cast is having great roles. Anxious to
see more about Alan and his addiction.
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From: Danielle Graham <DGraham@bn.com>
Subject: GH/PC: todays show 3/16
Date: 17 Mar 1998 08:49:29 -0500
What great acting Jonathan Jackson (Lucky) did today. He makes every
everything so real.
I couldn't have said that one better! You can't not throw Tony Geary
kudos for his believable portrayal! I was glued to the tube! The
flashbacks were fab, especially w/the song "Rise" playing in the
background! All that's needed now is Laura back. Doesn't it feel odd
that this storyline is being played w/out one of the central characters?
Tony & Jonathan are doing a fab job regardless!
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From: "Julie Saker" <jesaker@hotmail.com>
Subject: GH/PC: plea from nyc area--AGAIN!
Date: 17 Mar 1998 06:24:27 PST
good morning, all--happy st. patrick's day!
however, as a result of this festive occasion, i am quite worried that
we time-zone-challenged folks may (once AGAIN) get the short end of the
stick. the newscasters this morning announced a MILLION times that the
nyc st. patrick's day parade will be held today from 11 am to 2:30 pm.
(i mean come ON...how many hours of bagpipe music do we NEED???)
i don't know if abc is planning on covering it--i know nbc is.
so...JUST IN CASE...since that falls smack dab in the middle of port
charles (it will hopefully miss gh, unless we get COMMENTARY or
something afterwards--which i wouldn't put past them!), and since
yesterday's revelation was quite stunning (i'm with you, taiyin...that
came out of NOWHERE as far as i was concerned. what do you know? tptb
kept a secret! :), i'm making yet another plea to the non-ny'ers among
us. could somebody watch pc VERY closely, in hopes of filling us in
just in case abc decides nbc's coverage isn't enough?
thanks a million! or...if someone out there knows for a fact that abc
WON'T be airing the parade...let me know! it'll make my day MUCH
easier! :)
on a side note, gh yesterday blew me away. ALL of it. luke and lucky,
obviously. and stefan and nik. robin and helena. robin and jason.
jason and carly. there just wasn't a dull moment ANYWHERE. (until the
previews, when we saw kat and bat in bed <shudder> )
julie
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From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: todays show 3/16
Date: 17 Mar 1998 08:20:02 -0800
At 08:49 AM 3/17/98 -0500, Danielle Graham wrote:
>What great acting Jonathan Jackson (Lucky) did today. He makes every
>everything so real.
No kidding. That was incredible.
>I couldn't have said that one better! You can't not throw Tony Geary
>kudos for his believable portrayal!
Can we say "Emmy Reel"? I think I stopped breathing once or twice during
those scenes.
>Doesn't it feel odd
>that this storyline is being played w/out one of the central characters?
Well, I think Guza was hoping that this storyline would be enough to lure
Genie back. Unfortunately it hasn't worked so far.
>Tony & Jonathan are doing a fab job regardless!
Amen to that.
Taiyin
"How about a little evening's entertainment of X-rated
'Tag, You're It' and we can play all the games I never
had the chance to play when I was a kid?" -- Kevin to Lucy
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From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: plea from nyc area--AGAIN!
Date: 17 Mar 1998 08:23:08 -0800
At 06:24 AM 3/17/98 PST, Julie Saker wrote:
>thanks a million! or...if someone out there knows for a fact that abc
>WON'T be airing the parade...let me know! it'll make my day MUCH
>easier! :)
Can you check TV Guide Online? They should be able to tell you (I'd check,
but I have three weeks worth of homework to make up in the next nine hours).
>on a side note, gh yesterday blew me away. ALL of it. luke and lucky,
>obviously. and stefan and nik. robin and helena. robin and jason.
>jason and carly. there just wasn't a dull moment ANYWHERE.
True, true. Luke and Lucky were, though, by far the most breath-taking.
Why is it they only have truly fabulous episodes on the days where I have
SO much homework that I shouldn't be watching TV at all? ;-)
>(until the previews, when we saw kat and bat in bed <shudder> )
LOL! Yeah, that was pretty much my reaction, too. Frightening.
Taiyin
"How about a little evening's entertainment of X-rated
'Tag, You're It' and we can play all the games I never
had the chance to play when I was a kid?" -- Kevin to Lucy
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From: "Julie Saker" <jesaker@hotmail.com>
Subject: GH/PC: sigh of relief re:parade, AND a controversial suggestion...
Date: 17 Mar 1998 08:47:34 PST
taiyin wrote:
>Can you check TV Guide Online? They should be able to tell you (I'd
>check, but I have three weeks worth of homework to make up in the
>next nine hours).
great idea, taiyin! thanks for the suggestion (i COMPLETELY didn't
think of that!) i just checked, and it looks like it's only nbc that's
going to air the parade. (it's about time they picked on another group
of soap fans! :)
>True, true. Luke and Lucky were, though, by far the most
>breath-taking.
tony geary...my GOD what a talent. y'know, i'm probably going to get
tarred and feathered for this, but if genie francis was sitting home
yesterday watching that, and STILL chooses not to return, i say it's HER
loss at this point, and time to seriously consider a re-cast. (i know,
i can hear it now...<gasp!> <choke!> <sputter!> "you sacreligious
HEATHEN! how DARE you even SUGGEST such a thing!!!") i'm sorry though,
but enough is enough. how long has she been gone now--a year? if *i*
took a year off from my job, you can be damn sure I'D have been replaced
LONG before now...and, if THIS story hasn't been enough to lure her
back, i don't think ANYTHING will do the trick. (although i surely
don't envy the actress who would try to fill that void! that would take
guts... of course, so does re-visiting the rape, so maybe there's
hope?)
thoughts? opinions? lynch mobs?
julie
>Why is it they only have truly fabulous episodes on the days where I
>have SO much homework that I shouldn't be watching TV at all? ;-)
whoops--except for you, taiyin. no responses--go get your homework
done! good luck! :)
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From: Danielle Graham <DGraham@bn.com>
Subject: GH/PC:controversial suggestion
Date: 17 Mar 1998 12:01:00 -0500
if genie francis was sitting home
yesterday watching that, and STILL chooses not to return, i say it's HER
loss at this point, and time to seriously consider a re-cast.
Hate to say it, but I was actually just saying that to somebody else
that at least they should "temporarily" recast. Although, I think it's
way past getting used to someone 1st! Wouldn't it have been great to
have Laura been Lizzie's shoulder to lean on. Although don't get me
wrong, Jackie Zeman was phenom!
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From: Cagey <cagey@geocities.com>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: a controversial suggestion...
Date: 17 Mar 1998 12:41:17 -0500
Julie wrote:
>but if genie francis was sitting home
>yesterday watching that, and STILL chooses not to return, i say it's HER
>loss at this point, and time to seriously consider a re-cast.
Actually, I don't think it would bother me, as long as it was an unknown.
Does that make sense? I wouldn't want to see an actress I'd seen in
another role...it would be too distracting. But soaps are such an
incestuous little group that to cast an unknown as Laura would be unthinkable.
At any rate, I believe I've read that Tony Geary has said Genie or no one.
So recasting is probably out of the question for that reason, as well.
--kg
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From: Danielle Graham <DGraham@bn.com>
Subject: GH/PC: a controversial suggestion
Date: 17 Mar 1998 14:05:01 -0500
Actually, I don't think it would bother me, as long as it was an
unknown.
Does that make sense? I wouldn't want to see an actress I'd seen in
another role...it would be too distracting.
as strange as that sounded, I think I agree with that. I think that the
fact that everyone knows Genie is staying @home for the kids, it makes
it easier to deal with? Now does THAT make any sense?
At any rate, I believe I've read that Tony Geary has said Genie or no
one.
...I've heard that before, but in regards to Jonathan when he was
re-negotiating. And honestly I don't think I would've liked to have seen
him replaced. But isn't that just a little too much "power" that Tony
has? God knows I just love Tony to death, but really?
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Subject: GH/PC: Contraversial Suggestion
Date: 17 Mar 1998 22:18:12 -0600
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From: Danielle Graham <DGraham@bn.com>
Subject: GH/PC: 3/17
Date: 18 Mar 1998 08:46:57 -0500
1st I have a question? Was that flashback w/Stefan & Laura ever shown
before? I can't remember that it was, which was leading up to maybe
Genie had filmed some scenes. I'm a dreamer. Anyway! I must say, I just
LOVE Jonathan! That boy is doing some fabulous stuff! And he just makes
Becky look great too!
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From: "Fred & Rickie Yopp" <yopp@rightathome.com>
Subject: GH/PC: pc/gh
Date: 18 Mar 1998 06:28:43 -0800
I too was wondering about the flashback? HMMMMM!!!! L&L's acting have
been super. Hope Jonathon keeps a straight head that boy is going places.
I thought for sure he would have called Laura and questioned her about the
rape. Is Brad Maule leaving GH? Hope not. What is with all his weight
gainand haircut? What is done for the show or does he have other irons in
the fire that he had to have a different look? I like the old Tony, but he
sure is convincing now.
On PC did I hear right that Bobby M. is Matt's brother? Interesting.
Rickie
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From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: pc/gh
Date: 18 Mar 1998 09:05:57 -0800
At 06:28 AM 3/18/98 -0800, Fred & Rickie Yopp wrote:
>
>I thought for sure he would have called Laura and questioned her about the
>rape.
Nah, this isn't even about Laura at this point for Lucky. He's feeling so
disillusioned right now, I doubt he'd believe a word she said -- even if he
cared to hear it at all.
>Is Brad Maule leaving GH?
Nope. According to (I think) this week's TV Guide interview with Logan,
Brad says the producers keep swearing to him that he's not being fired.
But, supposedly, the "old Tony" is long gone and not coming back. Very
cool, IMO. Tony was a sweetie, but he was dull as dry toast.
>On PC did I hear right that Bobby M. is Matt's brother? Interesting.
Yup.
Taiyin
"How about a little evening's entertainment of X-rated
'Tag, You're It' and we can play all the games I never
had the chance to play when I was a kid?" -- Kevin to Lucy
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From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: 3/17
Date: 18 Mar 1998 09:10:17 -0800
At 08:46 AM 3/18/98 -0500, Danielle Graham wrote:
>1st I have a question? Was that flashback w/Stefan & Laura ever shown
>before? I can't remember that it was, which was leading up to maybe
>Genie had filmed some scenes. I'm a dreamer. Anyway!
I don't know if they aired it before, but it was definitely shot during the
same time as the other flashbakcs they've done of those two. Both of their
hair was identical to the other ones, and different than now (for Stefan,
anyway; I don't know what Genie's hair looks like right now).
>I must say, I just
>LOVE Jonathan! That boy is doing some fabulous stuff! And he just makes
>Becky look great too!
Becky rocks. That was the annoying thing about her from the beginning:
Rebecca could act, they just gave her a stupid, annoying and disgusting
storyline (unlike her "sister" -- who has exactly the opposite problem).
Since a couple of days before Lizzie was attacked, though, she's been
fabulous. About the only thing I like better than Lizzie these days, is
Lizzie and Lucky.
And I NEVER thought I would say that.
I still love Lucky and Emily, though. <sigh>
Taiyin
"How about a little evening's entertainment of X-rated
'Tag, You're It' and we can play all the games I never
had the chance to play when I was a kid?" -- Kevin to Lucy
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From: Danielle Graham <DGraham@bn.com>
Subject: GH/PC:
Date: 18 Mar 1998 12:10:35 -0500
thought for sure he would have called Laura and questioned her about
the
>rape.
Nah, this isn't even about Laura at this point for Lucky. He's feeling
so
disillusioned right now, I doubt he'd believe a word she said -- even if
he
cared to hear it at all.
I'd agree whole heartedly with the fact Lucky is quite disillusioned!
Down right shocked I think, to even imagine such a horrible thing, (he's
just witnessed what happened to Lizzie) happened & his mother married
him still. He's not even interested in the love that they share. But I
really believe the direction would have gone a completely different way
if Genie was in the picture.
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From: Danielle Graham <DGraham@bn.com>
Subject: GH/PC: GH/PC
Date: 18 Mar 1998 12:27:08 -0500
Rebecca could act, they just gave her a stupid, annoying and disgusting
storyline (unlike her "sister" -- who has exactly the opposite problem).
I can't believe I'll actually admit this one, but at first, I did like
the Sarah/Nikolas story, but you could see that was going no where fast.
Especially since the day at the Cassadine "summer" house when N/S were
making out! That was one of the biggest let downs. I'm glad that Bob
Guza seems to be moving away from that story, but I don't know about the
pairing of Robin/Nikolas. There's plenty of history there to ignite
plenty o'sparks!
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From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: Genie
Date: 18 Mar 1998 09:33:47 -0800
At 12:10 PM 3/18/98 -0500, Danielle Graham wrote:
>
>I'd agree whole heartedly with the fact Lucky is quite disillusioned!
That's the truth! Poor Lucky. He had his dad on SUCH high pedistal.
That's a LONG way to see your idol fall.
>But I
>really believe the direction would have gone a completely different way
>if Genie was in the picture.
You're probably right about that, too.
I guess I'm just in the extreme minority because, to date, I don't think
Genie's absence is that much of a problem yet. I think eventually it will
be -- Luke and Laura *need* to discuss this and Lucky and his mother *need*
to have it out. But for now I think that, the way it's being played out
(BECAUSE Genie isn't around to be involved) allows for a logical absence
from Laura (as much as any storyline ever does, anyway).
Plus, Bobbie hit the nail on the head Monday: Luke goes to extreme
measures to protect Laura -- and I honestly can't see him telling her that
Lucky knows until he can no longer avoid it -- I think it fits in very well
with the Cassadine and Spencer men ALL deciding that Laura did not need to
know that Nikolas was shot back in December (a stupid plot device that
makes them all look like arrogant jerks, but that's necessary because Genie
is nowhere to be found). I think Luke is probably hoping that Lucky will
cool off before he worries about including Laura in on this current Spencer
nightmare.
Especially now that he knows Nikolas is the one who told -- I can't imagine
Luke would want to do anything short of stringing his wife's son up by his
thumbnails before skinning him alive for this. I don't think that's
something he'd want Laura to see, either.
Taiyin
"How about a little evening's entertainment of X-rated
'Tag, You're It' and we can play all the games I never
had the chance to play when I was a kid?" -- Kevin to Lucy
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From: Danielle Graham <DGraham@bn.com>
Subject: GH/PC:
Date: 18 Mar 1998 12:44:38 -0500
I guess I'm just in the extreme minority because, to date, I don't think
Genie's absence is that much of a problem yet,
Well, I agree w/you on this. The story seems to be doing great in her
absence though!
Plus, Bobbie hit the nail on the head Monday: Luke goes to extreme
measures to protect Laura.
Lord does he ever! But I think later on, when & if, Laura returns, all
the lies & Luke's protecting her will result in the same thing when
Bobbie found out that he was lying "to protect his babysister".
Fireworks. And rightfully so! What mother wouldn't want to know that her
son was shot! But then again, what mother would stay away from 2
children anyway!
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From: "Julie Saker" <jesaker@hotmail.com>
Subject: GH/PC: PC
Date: 18 Mar 1998 09:58:52 PST
is it just me, or is port charles getting really boring?
maybe i was just in a strange mood yesterday, but as i was watching my
tape, i found myself realizing i didn't CARE about the vast majority of
the characters, storylines, etc. (of course, i didn't stop WATCHING.
ah, habit...)
the whole matt being mancusi's brother was a nice nanosecond of drama,
but beyond that, this whole story bores me to tears, i've decided.
bobby mancusi is yet another of the one-note villains pc has come to
love (he reminds me of greg cooper, in fact), and i'm just not really
that interested in watching yet ANOTHER protracted struggle of good
against evil. it's getting tired, and they don't seem to be covering
any new ground with each subsequent incarnation of the same basic story.
and while i like matt as a character, and ellen as a character, i'm
finding that's not enough to get me invested in this story. although i
AM liking mike finally having something to do...
the whole karen/joe/jake/ferret thing, and the whole frank/julie/lark
thing, are both playing out like bad sitcom episodes, which is NOT what
i look for in a soap.
chris ramsey is another of the notorious pc villains where his actions
are so despicable that i just don't CARE why he's doing what he does. i
just want it to end, and for him to go far, far away.
eve i like--particularly with scotty--but they haven't seemed to have
much to do since the whole danielle impersonation thing.
and kevin and lucy, who i am of COURSE more invested in than the
others...even THEY'RE not doing it for me right now. after the whole
mess they just went through, i'm finding it VERY hard to muster any
enthusiasm for lucy's fight to get her company's money back.
maybe it's just the let-down of coming off that incredible week when
lucy was dying...or maybe it's that gh is FINALLY looking good by
comparison...but pc is really not managing to keep my interest lately.
anybody else starting to feel like the show could use some help? or
maybe it's just me! :)
julie
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From: Danielle Graham <DGraham@bn.com>
Subject: GH/PC: PC
Date: 18 Mar 1998 13:07:31 -0500
is it just me, or is port charles getting really boring?
I'm sure I'm going to be slammed for this one, but I can't even force
myself to set the VCR for this show. I watched it in the beginning,
mostly cuz I've watched GH for so many years, that with Lucy, Kevin &
Scotty over there, I thought it had to have hope! I had to go back to
another Soap to fill that time slot. I don't know what needs to be done
to put something into it, but for all of us who just love GH, it's FAB
these days, I must admit this one I can't wait for. Sorry, will have to
scroll down, cuz I don't wanna spoil it.
.
.
.
.
.
.
Did every one here that Lynn Herring will be coming back to GH for over
a month to "work" on a storyline there? Ya think it will have anything
to do w/the Jax/Tess mess that's going on? Now if we could just keep her
there, GH couldn't lose!
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From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: PC
Date: 18 Mar 1998 10:27:18 -0800
At 01:07 PM 3/18/98 -0500, Danielle Graham wrote:
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>Did every one here that Lynn Herring will be coming back to GH for over
>a month to "work" on a storyline there? Ya think it will have anything
>to do w/the Jax/Tess mess that's going on? Now if we could just keep her
>there, GH couldn't lose!
Well, there are conflicting reports. Over on K&L it was posted that SOD
and SOW are reporting that Lynn is just moving BACK to GH because she
doesn't want as much frontburner time as she's been getting on PC.
Frankly, the thought of that gives me the shivering fits. As much as I am
LOVING the Lizzie/Lucky/Luke stuff right now, my primary interest is K&L --
I don't care WHICH show they are on (though, I prefer them on PC just
because they actually get some screentime that way). I just DON'T want
Lynn to be on one show and Jon to be on the other. Bad, bad, bad, bad, bad.
Taiyin
"How about a little evening's entertainment of X-rated
'Tag, You're It' and we can play all the games I never
had the chance to play when I was a kid?" -- Kevin to Lucy
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From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: PC
Date: 18 Mar 1998 10:43:24 -0800
At 09:58 AM 3/18/98 PST, Julie Saker wrote:
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>the whole karen/joe/jake/ferret thing, and the whole frank/julie/lark
>thing, are both playing out like bad sitcom episodes, which is NOT what
>i look for in a soap.
I do agree with this one. Although, I must say, I am finally happy that
Julie is no longer being a spineless toady. Of course, "bitchy harpy" is
not the direction I would have liked to see her go in, but at this point
anything is an improvement.
>and kevin and lucy, who i am of COURSE more invested in than the
>others...even THEY'RE not doing it for me right now. after the whole
>mess they just went through, i'm finding it VERY hard to muster any
>enthusiasm for lucy's fight to get her company's money back.
I do think anything they do now is pretty anti-climactic after Lucy's
near-death. It was kind of like watching the aftermath of Lucy's
miscarriage after seeing the miscarriage ep itself. The performances were
so incredible that no follow-up could possibly compare.
>maybe it's just the let-down of coming off that incredible week when
>lucy was dying...or maybe it's that gh is FINALLY looking good by
>comparison...but pc is really not managing to keep my interest lately.
I think the improvement of GH is probably part of it, too. I mean, the
last couple of days alone, there has been absolutely NO comparison. GH has
been INCREDIBLE. Well, at least PARTS of GH have been incredible.
I do think, though, that the head writer of each show has very, very
different strengths and I think those are becoming more and more obvious.
I think Guza knows zilch about romance. I think he proved it last time he
was there (Tom and Felicia <shudder>) and he's doing it again (a TOTAL lack
of romantic ANYTHING on the show -- Jax and Brenda and Kat and Bat being
the only painful exceptions).
I think Lynn Latham likes the relationship stuff much more than the plot
stuff, which is probably why she seems to be having trouble creating
complex villians -- they are no more than a means to an end for her. I
*love* the way she writes the character interaction -- K&L (though she has
Scott in the middle of that FAR too much for my liking), Kevin and Scott,
Scott and Eve, Frank and Joe, Chris and Eve (thoguh not in too long for my
taste), Kevin and Eve, Lucy and Scott (well, them less than the others),
and I think she did a GREAT job with Luke's crossover, etc.
I also think she is doing the one thing that PC's headwriter SHOULD have
been doing from day one: mixing up the characters so they actually
interact. Yesterday they brought Scott into the mix with Matt, Grace,
Ellen and Mike. THANK YOU! They've had all these characters off doing
their own thing (a Culliton trademark) and not interacting at ALL.
>anybody else starting to feel like the show could use some help? or
>maybe it's just me! :)
I think both of them could, actually. In very diffeerent ways, though.
And I think the sheer impact of the past few days with the Spencer
storyline has not only over-shadowed PC (which is in a down phase in many
ways at the moment), but it's also masked the weak parts of GH itself
(Tess/Mac/Felicia, Brenda/Jax, lack of V, Robin's sanctimoniousness, etc.).
I think after a few days of REALLY annoying people, PC might start looking
better. ;-)
Just MHO, of course.
Taiyin
"How about a little evening's entertainment of X-rated
'Tag, You're It' and we can play all the games I never
had the chance to play when I was a kid?" -- Kevin to Lucy
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From: Danielle Graham <DGraham@bn.com>
Subject: GH/PC: PC
Date: 18 Mar 1998 14:12:09 -0500
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Did every one here that Lynn Herring will be coming back to GH for over
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Well, there are conflicting reports. Over on K&L it was posted that SOD
and SOW are reporting that Lynn is just moving BACK to GH because she
doesn't want as much frontburner time as she's been getting on PC.
I must've missed that part about Lynn moving permanently back to GH. But
if that's the case, I really, really think that they would also bring
Kevin back along w/her. This would be the dream answer to the horrible
story that's been going on w/Jax/Mac/Tess/Felicia. At this point, I
could really care less who's behind all of this! Can you
say....fast-forward! Also, as frontburner as Lynn's story is, PC is a
1/2 hour show. Like I said, I don't watch PC any longer, so is Lynn on
practically everyday. And by chance does anyone know which show Lynn is
primarily contracted to? That could be the big difference!
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From: "Gina Clayton" <GCLAYTON@LES.LES.SC.EDU>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: 3/17
Date: 18 Mar 1998 14:27:14 EST5EDT
Danielle Graham wrote:
> >1st I have a question? Was that flashback w/Stefan & Laura ever shown
> >before? I can't remember that it was, which was leading up to maybe
> >Genie had filmed some scenes. I'm a dreamer. Anyway!
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> I don't know if they aired it before, but it was definitely shot during the
> same time as the other flashbakcs they've done of those two. Both of their
> hair was identical to the other ones, and different than now (for Stefan,
> anyway; I don't know what Genie's hair looks like right now).
I remember seeing the flashback before, but I don't remember exactly
when. I think it might have been the question of Nikolas' paternity
first came up before Genie left the show!??
> Becky rocks. That was the annoying thing about her from the beginning:
> Rebecca could act, they just gave her a stupid, annoying and disgusting
> storyline (unlike her "sister" -- who has exactly the opposite problem).
> Since a couple of days before Lizzie was attacked, though, she's been
> fabulous. About the only thing I like better than Lizzie these days, is
> Lizzie and Lucky.
ITA!! Lizzie did a great job yesterday asking Lucky not to leave,
but what really caught my attention was how uncomfortable Lizzie was
with Luke, now knowing that he is a rapist. Lucky was great coming
out from behind Lizzie to confront his father. I also loved the
comment about "who else knows about my life before I do?"(something
like that) I myself have always wondered that!!:)
can't wait today for the confrontation between Nik and Luke!!
smiles:):):)
gina
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From: Cagey <cagey@geocities.com>
Subject: GH/PC: ADMIN spoilers
Date: 18 Mar 1998 14:35:45 -0500
Just a reminder, spoiler space must be made up of characters, not periods.
For some mailers, a single period or full stop on a line indicates that a
message is over, and so the mailer dumps it. That means your spoiler space
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From: Cagey <cagey@geocities.com>
Subject: GH/PC: Admin spoilers again
Date: 18 Mar 1998 14:37:38 -0500
Regarding my earlier note, you also can't leave just blanks for spoiler
space, for the same reason. Thanks.
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From: "Julie Saker" <jesaker@hotmail.com>
Subject: GH/PC: Re: PC
Date: 18 Mar 1998 11:58:40 PST
On 03/18/98 10:43:24 taiyin wrote:
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>I do agree with this one. Although, I must say, I am finally happy
>that Julie is no longer being a spineless toady. Of course, "bitchy
>harpy" is not the direction I would have liked to see her go in, but
>at this point anything is an improvement.
well, i guess. but i think what i hate so much
about this--as well as several other stories right
now--is that there is NO gray. no middle ground.
all we get are extremes. julie is a bitchy harpy,
frank is a self-righteous do-gooder, blah blah blah.
it's like they're almost all caricatures rather than
characters these days. not ONE of them (with the
exception of lucy and kevin--NOT EVEN SCOTTY, much
to my dismay) has ANYTHING like the complexity of
a luke, or a carly, or an alexis, or even a jason.
it's like an entire show full of sarahs and new-robins.
blech.
>I do think anything they do now is pretty anti-climactic after Lucy's
>near-death.
true. but in an hour-long show, there can be some
down-time, and some filler-type stuff. in a half-
hour show...there's just no room, really, for that
kind of stuff.
>I do think, though, that the head writer of each show has very, very
>different strengths and I think those are becoming more and more
>obvious. I think Guza knows zilch about romance.
you'll get no argument from me there! that scene
yesterday wtih kat and bat?!? not the one in bed,
because i found that one kind of amusing (of course,
that's only because i was DESPERATELY hoping stefan
would half-emerge from his dream, when kat touched
him, and lovingly murmur, "lasha..."!), but the one
at the end, against the wall? talk about NO chemistry.
i think even nik and sarah did better than that...
(does anyone know--did then have chemistry as patch
and kayla on dool? 'cause i just can't see it! :)
and don't even get me started on brenda. delusional
is the only word that even comes CLOSE. y'know how i
firmly believe sonny's character was irreparably damaged
by the way he was written out? well i think this latest
win-jax-over plot is doing the same thing to brenda. ugh.
so no...gh is hardly PERFECT these days! but like i said,
with an hour show, i think they have a little more leeway.
>I think Lynn Latham likes the relationship stuff much more than the
>plot stuff, which is probably why she seems to be having trouble
>creating complex villians -- they are no more than a means to an end
>for her. I *love* the way she writes the character interaction
i'm with you there. but gh somehow (under MOST writers--
obviously not culliton!) seems to manage to strike a better
balance than pc is currently doing, i think. gh, in its
historically good periods, has done an AMAZING job of
creating these fantastic, complex, multi-dimensional
characters, and then getting them involved in exciting,
edge-of-your-seat, what's-going-to-happen-next plots.
with pc...<yawn>. i mean, the character interaction is
great, like you said. but the plots are laughable. did
anyone think for a second that lucy would die? or that
rex would get to raise serena? or does anyone think there's
a chance in hell that bobby will end up killing matt?
there's no room for surprise when the plots are so
simplistic (with the exception of matt's announcement,
as noted earlier). and without surprise, without any
i-wonder-what's-going-to-happen, without any sense
that the unexpected COULD ever happen...it's just not
as interesting to me.
on the other hand, there's gh. if it weren't for the
rampant spoilers...i would have NEVER been able to
predict tony going off the deep end and kidnapping
michael (and the upcoming one which i'm sure we've
all heard about--that's even MORE of a shock!), or
that they would actually do this luke/lucky/rape thing,
or, going back a way, that they would make much-beloved
robin hiv+, or kill off little b.j. i'm beginning to
understand what guza meant when he said gh had to
be "larger than life", except the word i would use
instead would be "wildly unpredictable." and yet
they (USUALLY) manage to do it WITHOUT sacrificing
the character development and interaction which is
so crucial to the soap opera genre.
>I also think she is doing the one thing that PC's headwriter SHOULD
>have been doing from day one: mixing up the characters so they
>actually interact.
i agree that that's been going MUCH better lately.
i mean, my god...we finally got to SEE ellen's
apartment, and matt's! there was a time where we
never saw these people interacting ANYWHERE other
than the hospital. and it's great to get the non-
hospital crowd (mike/scotty/kevin/lucy) involved
with the intern crowd as well.
>I think both of them could, actually. In very diffeerent ways,
>though. And I think the sheer impact of the past few days with the
>Spencer storyline has not only over-shadowed PC (which is in a down
>phase in many ways at the moment), but it's also masked the weak
>parts of GH itself (Tess/Mac/Felicia, Brenda/Jax, lack of V, Robin's
>sanctimoniousness, etc.). I think after a few days of REALLY
>annoying people, PC might start looking better. ;-)
true. if i get more of ANYTHING you mentioned,
and less of the spencer meltdown or carly (who
i'm REALLY beginning to feel sorry for--can you
BELIEVE it?!? guza's a god...), i'll be bitching
about gh soon enough too! and i do think pc has
managed to do some amazing stuff for a show that's
still less than a year old (the miscarraige and
lucy's near-death, primarily. but the early
karen/joe stuff, and the matt/ellen (before this
latest go-round) both had promise too) i guess
now that a very few plots on gh are reminding me
of what soaps are SUPPOSED to be (speaking of which,
did anyone see the latest gh promo? it had a brief
flash of bj's death. TALK ABOUT DRAMA!!!), i'm
just getting antsy and losing patience with
anything less than that. ah, the horror of creating
high expectations...you have to keep living up to them!
:)
julie
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From: "Julie Saker" <jesaker@hotmail.com>
Subject: GH/PC: Luke and Lucky
Date: 18 Mar 1998 12:08:27 PST
On 03/18/98 14:27:14 gina wrote:
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>Lucky was great coming
>out from behind Lizzie to confront his father. I also loved the
>comment about "who else knows about my life before I do?"(something
>like that) I myself have always wondered that!!:)
i almost forgot that i wanted to mention my
FAVORITE line from yesterday. to loosely (possibly)
paraphrase lucky: "it kind of makes you wonder...was
mom kidnapped by the cassadines...or rescued?"
GO LUCKY!!! now THAT'S a statement to turn luke's
whole world upside down, if he ever stops to actually
THINK about it (which, i admit, he isn't terribly likely
to do, where the cassadines are concerned. he's too
convinced he is The One Great Truth where they--and
most things, for that matter--are concerned.) but what
a great line! j.j. is just doing an AWESOME job.
although, on a shallow note, i wish they'd do something
about that lipstick he wears. it's terribly distracting
sometimes. (or if that's natural--maybe he SHOULD wear
lipstick, in a less garish shade! :)
>can't wait today for the confrontation between Nik and Luke!!
me neither. and i REALLY hope luke doesn't come
out on top for once. it's about time someone puts
him in his place. bobbie tried--but she forgave him
FAR too quickly. i love the character dearly, but
he needs to be brought down a peg.
julie
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From: Danielle Graham <DGraham@bn.com>
Subject: GH/PC: GH/PC
Date: 18 Mar 1998 15:11:48 -0500
I think Guza knows zilch about romance.
you'll get no argument from me there! that scene
yesterday wtih kat and bat?!?
that's hysterical, as I was thinking that they always say those scenes
are choreographed down to every head turn! That was the WORST scene I've
ever done. You could tell they were trying to remember where they were
s'posed to hit the mark.
does anyone know--did then have chemistry as patch
and kayla on dool? 'cause i just can't see it! :)
believe me, I've watched DOOL for years, and Patch & Kayla were a great
couple. I never thought that they were as "super" a couple as they are
written to be, but there was SO much chemistry there. I can't believe
that is completely gone w/Kat & Bat. I just love Stephen to death. He's
doing a great job, but I think their "romance" was way to rushed.
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From: Danielle Graham <DGraham@bn.com>
Subject: GH/PC: Lucky/Luke/Bobbie
Date: 18 Mar 1998 15:17:59 -0500
almost forgot that I wanted to mention my
FAVORITE line from yesterday. to loosely (possibly)
paraphrase lucky: "it kind of makes you wonder...was
mom kidnapped by the cassadines...or rescued
I agree that was the best line....this week! I'm sure more's to come
since every day since last week is having a classic line delivered by
Jonathan. He carries it off so well, you just have to believe he means
every word!
can't wait today for the confrontation between Nik and Luke!!it's about
time someone puts
him in his place. bobbie tried--but she forgave him
FAR too quickly.
yeah, how could Bobbie just forgive him so easily! It took 2 years for
Bobbie to learn the truth and basically forget how incredible it was
that her daughter is Carly, that she forgot the players involved WAY too
quickly. I don't think I've forgiven my sister for something she did 10
years ago & I'm sure that was something assinine. If she ever hid the
fact that my kid (I'm paraphrasing here!) was dead...forget it!
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From: tvplist@ix.netcom.com
Subject: GH/PC: Testosterone, thy name is Luke
Date: 18 Mar 1998 16:40:41 -0800
Really can anything else be said? Geary is just SUPERLATIVE!!!!! He is
playing this so "male". He knows he's wrong, he knows he disappointed
Lucky, he worries about what he did, but he still has his own perception
of reality and what's his first reaction....why the typically male one
of course, attack the Cassidines. The guy just oozes testosterone,
n'est ce pas? I love it!!!
karen
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From: "Donald K Gooden" <dkgooden@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: 3/17
Date: 18 Mar 1998 15:12:03 -0500
Danielle wrote
1st I have a question? Was that flashback w/Stefan & Laura ever shown
>>before? I can't remember that it was, which was leading up to maybe
>>Genie had filmed some scenes. I'm a dreamer. Anyway!
That scene was aired before. My sister mentioned it to me, and when I looked
I realized that I had already seen it.
Jamila
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From: Danielle Graham <DGraham@bn.com>
Subject: GH/PC: GH 3/18
Date: 19 Mar 1998 10:20:42 -0500
Ok, I think we're getting spoiled! The writing has been so fab between
Lucky & Luke & the performances...phew! That scene on the dock w/Stefan
& Luke fighting was great. Especially when Stefan threw the fact that
Luke only deals in violence even when he raped a young teenage girl! I
thought Luke was gonna kill him! Bravo!....Also, what's A.J. got going
up his sleeve w/the comment, Ned only thinks he's in control? Doesn't
Billy Warlock bring so much back bone to A.J.?
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From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
Subject: GH/PC: Lucky
Date: 19 Mar 1998 12:52:02 -0800
Well, not much comentary on yesterday's GH.
Seeing Lucky actually ASK Stefan if he was alright was downright chilling.
And Luke's scene with Nikolas was incredible, too.
<sigh>
I just wish Guza did as spectacular a job with everyone else as he does
with them.
Taiyin
"How about a little evening's entertainment of X-rated
'Tag, You're It' and we can play all the games I never
had the chance to play when I was a kid?" -- Kevin to Lucy
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From: Danielle Graham <DGraham@bn.com>
Subject: GH/PC: Lucky
Date: 19 Mar 1998 15:55:19 -0500
just wish Guza did as spectacular a job with everyone else as he does
with them.
I think the ground work is being laid for other storylines to be good.
Granted, I don't think anything could top this story w/Luke/Lucky & the
Cassidines. This story was almost 20 years in the making! I'm just
shocked that everyday so far has had some downright classic lines. The
complete turn around of character for Lucky, pertaining to Luke has been
so unbelievable & so real! You go Jonathan!
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From: Christine & Jeff Sagadin <cmjmpa@execpc.com>
Subject: GH/PC: Taggart
Date: 19 Mar 1998 15:10:19 -0600
Whoa! Did Taggart take a "nice" pill today?? Or did Tess find that
look-a-like after all & tie up the real Taggart?!??
Christine in Milwaukee
PS: I'm with Jax - who would want to go the police with anything when
you know that Detective Taggart will be assigned to your case!
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From: "Donald K Gooden" <dkgooden@email.msn.com>
Subject: GH/PC: GH: Spoilers
Date: 22 Mar 1998 20:52:04 -0500
Spoilers for the week of March 23
Jamila
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Audrey lets the cat out of the bag
Liz listens to what Luke has to say
Bobbie informs Luke on Lucky's where abouts
Lucky and Nikolas come to an agreement
Robin grows weaker by the minute
Lucas and Bobbie celebrate Tony's birthday who later tries to bring Robin
her medicine
Brenda blames Jason for Robin's disappearance
Tony's actions put Robin's life at risk
All roads lead to the Quartermaines as being behind the plot to take down
Jax
Katherine makes a discovery
Stefan lets Katherine in on his feelings for Laura
Lucky makes a deal with the enemy
Jason confronts Moreno
Thanks to Jason's discovery, Carly and Bobbie share an emotional moment
Monday - 3/23
Brenda blames Jason for Robin's disappearance
Liz tries to fix things between Luke and Lucky
Tuesday - 3/24
Have Mac and Felicia found who is behind Tess' plot?
Brenda gives Jason a piece of her mind
Wednesday - 3/25
Audrey makes a confession to Sarah
Thursday - 3/26
Robin collapses
Jason gets a clue, which may help to lead him right to his son.
Friday - 3/27
Lucky and Helena strike a deal
Robin and Michael are found
Helena gets an unexpected visitor... Bobbie comes to a decision regarding
Lucas' future with Tony... Tess' plan is put into motion...
Coming Soon
One of the Conspirators for Jax's Murder Plot is revealed.
The Assassin makes his move at the Docks Renovation Party - and someone is
shot!
Mac, Tess & Felicia wrongly believe that they have time before the assassins
make their move.
Nikolas is more concerned with Robin than Sarah..
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From: "Donald K Gooden" <dkgooden@email.msn.com>
Subject: GH/PC: Spoilers: PC
Date: 22 Mar 1998 20:56:47 -0500
Spoilers for the week of March 23
Jamila
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Lucy goes to plan B
The Interns fudge
Bobby gets Ellen
Jake, who's Chole?!?!
Rex Ain't got a dime
The news comes down: the antiques Lucy "procured" from Rex are worthless
fakes. Continuing to dig- she and Scott find Rex was penniless (well, before
he wiped her out, anyway). Lucy decides to accept Scott's help (and cash
flow), and to go ahead and divorce Rex- which clears the way for Lucy and
Kevin to finally get hitched. Well, maybe notàààà
Victor is further out
Kevin gets a strange phone call about his father. When he arrives at the
hospital, he discovers that Victor more despondent than ever. Faced with the
frightening realization that his father is slipping further away by the
minute, Kevin takes matters into his own hands, making Victor's recovery top
priority, putting any kind of wedding plans on indefinite hold.
Ellen becomes the target
Matt and Grace escape the warehouse. Bobby, posing as the Fed he wacked,
goes to Ellen's apartment. Once she lets him in, he decides to leave Matt a
"warning". Mike later goes to the apartment, finds Ellen near death- he
rushes her to GH. Grace and Matt share their first kiss. Matt reveals to
Chris and Grace that Bobby Mancusi is his brother. Matt arranges to meet
Bobby at an undisclosed location. Knowing Matt's in over his head, Grace
goes to Scott for help. Just before Scott and Grace can get to the location,
shots are fired.
The Grand Experiment
Joe, Karen, and Jake tell Bennett that their test subject has died, but the
interns are still treating the ferret with the new drug they've developed.
Bennett learns the truth, however, and is not a happy camper about it.
Lark picks up a new identity
Lark, calling herself "Chloe", puts the moves on a stunned Jake. And he
respondsààààWhen she gets home, she finds an angry Frank- who grounds her.
Monday - 3/9
Matt and Grace Flee the warehouse
Lucy gets more bad news
Tuesday - 3/10
Bobby pays Ellen an Unhealthy visit
Bennett questions the interns on the experiment
A new candy striper make life hell for Julie
Wednesday - 3/11
Kevin gets bad news about Victor
Thursday - 3/12
Lark comes on to Jake
Grace lets Scott in on what's going on with Matt
Friday - 3/13
Matt and Bobby meet
Are Grace and Scott too late?
Next Week on Port Charles
Who's left standing after the gun fight? What is Lark up to?
Coming Soon
Lucy and Katherine vie for Robin's attention- and she's stuck in a hospital
bed!!! (the poor dear)
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From: tvplist@ix.netcom.com
Subject: Re: GH/PC: GH: Spoilers
Date: 22 Mar 1998 22:48:42 -0800
Great spoilers! keep them coming...it gives me a good reason to set the
vcr!
thx!
karen
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From: "Fred & Rickie Yopp" <yopp@rightathome.com>
Subject: GH/PC: PC
Date: 22 Mar 1998 23:13:36 -0800
Is anyone getting tired of the story line on PC? I find myself ff though
some of it. Hope they start having some good story lines soon. Getting
tired of Joe and Karen with only one thing on their mind???
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From: "Julie Saker" <jesaker@hotmail.com>
Subject: GH/PC: GH casting spoiler/rumor from SOD
Date: 25 Mar 1998 08:52:22 PST
oh my oh my oh my...if this is true....i don't even want to get my hopes
up on this one...but anyway, i read it so i figured i'd pass it along.
scroll down to hear the glad tidings...
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julie
SONNY COMES HOME
Major cast returns to General Hospital are in the works:
MAURICE BENARD will reprise his role as Sonny in what is described as a
"limited run." He'll return in May. Soap Opera Digest (3-31-98) warns
the S&Believers not to get their hopes up that Sonny and Brenda will
reunite.
Also expected, but not set in ink, is the reappearance of GENIE
FRANCIS (Laura) in the near future. Francis is still under contract to
the soap, but has been on a leave of absence since the birth of her
second child last year. Laura's return would add major dimensions to the
current storyline regarding her 1979 rape by Luke. GH fans impatiently
await her arrival.
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From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: GH casting spoiler/rumor from SOD
Date: 25 Mar 1998 09:09:23 -0800
At 08:52 AM 3/25/98 PST, Julie Saker wrote:
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>read this!!!! don't have ANY idea how accurate it is...but if it
>is...oh happy day!!! :)
Oh my, oh my, oh my... Where on *earth* did you find these, Julie?
>SONNY COMES HOME
You know, (and don't hurt yourself when you faint dead away, Julie) I'm not
sure I want Sonny to come back at this point. NOT that I am enjoying Jax
and Brenda, but at least with them I can fast-forward without worrying
about missing anything that I'd like. If they bring Maurice back then I'd
HAVE to watch them because I can't not watch Maurice.
OTOH, it would be nice if they did a little damage control to Sonny's
rep... which I'm not sure I believe is possible. (Though, I guess he could
come back to save Brenda's life. ie. The bad guys decide that they need
to kill Brenda to send Sonny a message and he shows up in time to stop
them, yadda, yadda, yadda.)
>MAURICE BENARD will reprise his role as Sonny in what is described as a
>"limited run." He'll return in May. Soap Opera Digest (3-31-98) warns
>the S&Believers not to get their hopes up that Sonny and Brenda will
>reunite.
And this "limited run" stuff isn't much better -- though at least maybe
they can put an end to the Sonny-bashing.
>Also expected, but not set in ink, is the reappearance of GENIE
>FRANCIS (Laura) in the near future.
Woo hoo!
<happy dance>
Yay!!!
Taiyin
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'Tag, You're It' and we can play all the games I never
had the chance to play when I was a kid?" -- Kevin to Lucy
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From: "Julie Saker" <jesaker@hotmail.com>
Subject: GH/PC: playing catch-up...
Date: 25 Mar 1998 09:43:38 PST
ok, it's been RIDICULOUSLY quiet around here, but i too have an
excuse...i just last night caught up on thursday, friday, monday, and
tuesday's episodes of pc and gh. (and all i can say is, i'm glad i
watched them all at once, because there were too many annoying
cliffhangers that i didn't have to suffer through! :)
so, some thoughts/comments/impressions:
first of all...was there a major backtracking between the end of
friday's ep of p.c. and the beginning of monday's? friday we had that
great ambiguous gunshot (which we all knew wouldn't hit matt)--mon. we
started with some scenes from BEFORE that which we had never seen
before? or am i losing my mind. all i could think of was kathy bates
in "misery," when she's describing the cliffhangers she hated as a kid,
where they would go back and have the hero jump out of the falling car
at the last second, when the previous episode had very clearly shown him
in free-fall. she said it was cheating, and i'd tend to agree.
second, and i can't believe this one...but i THINK i'm kind of LIKING
lark and jake?!? i know, i know...she's a kid...it's sick...but i'm
just so GRATEFUL that we have her doing something other than her pouting
put-upon child routine, that i just don't even CARE! sad, huh? i do
feel bad for jake though, because when he finds out the truth...well,
let's just say he's having a very bad year.
bobby's dead. thank god. 'nuff said. can we move on now?
and speaking of death--i feel horrible about this, but i really found
myself hoping they'd kill off grace. i'm sorry, but she's too good for
words. she's a martyr if i ever met one. a lot like beth in "little
women." besides, she's in the way of matt and ellen! :)
and chris...he deserves some SERIOUS payback over this one. i'm glad
he's finally feeling a tad guilty--but that's not good enough for me!
as for gh...
wow. i read the spoilers, but i didn't really believe it. tony kidnaps
ROBIN?!? are we SURE they're not writing tony's character off the show?
i know he said in his tv guide interview that he's been assured he's not
being fired--but i'm not sure they can EVER redeem all of this. besides
that though, i'm finding the whole story kind of unrealistic. first of
all, robin put up NO fight whatsoever. i realize she's a bit of a
midget, but she could have at LEAST tried to kick him or hit him or knee
him or SOMETHING. *i* would've... but beyond that--are we to believe
that every citizen of port charles carries a cell phone (so much so that
someone--i forget who--actually used it IN HIS/HER OWN HOUSE during one
of the past 4 eps), but robin doesn't have one when she needs it? i'm
disappointed all around--i really thought the daughter of robert and
anna would've been a little more resourceful. she hasn't even TRIED to
find a way out.
the lucky/helena and luke/lizzie scenes...LOVED them! this story just
gets better and better.
bobbie/carly scenes...loving that too! oh my...when bobbie realizes
that carly was right all along, and it WAS tony who took michael...
jax and brenda...sigh. at least this robin kidnapping is shaking up
their story a tad (and bringing v back, too!) that's about the best i
can say for those two. this wooing business is really making me ill.
question--when aj was tearing into ned for going away on business while
michael's still missing, WHY didn't monica or edward speak up and
mention that they practically had to FORCE him to go? or did i IMAGINE
that scene... (not that i'm usually on ned's side, but aj's been as
nasty to him lately as ned always was to aj, and i don't like it any
better when aj's doing it than i did when ned was.)
and i LOVED jason's bodyguards! considering what his men USUALLY look
like, i find it kind of funny that he would choose the most disreputable
looking men he could find to guard emily and lila. and i loved em's
reaction to them!
hmmm...anything else? can't think of more right now, but i'm sure i
will as soon as i hit "send." but that's probably MORE than enough for
now. come on guys...SOMEBODY must have SOMETHING to say! :)
julie
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From: "Julie Saker" <jesaker@hotmail.com>
Subject: GH/PC: Re: GH casting spoiler/rumor from SOD
Date: 25 Mar 1998 09:58:14 PST
taiyin wrote:
>At 08:52 AM 3/25/98 PST, Julie Saker wrote:
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>Oh my, oh my, oh my... Where on *earth* did you find these, Julie?
soap opera digest web page (www.soapdigest.com), in their "comings and
goings" section. is sod one of the ones that's wrong more than right,
or right more than wrong?
>You know, (and don't hurt yourself when you faint dead away, Julie)
>I'm not sure I want Sonny to come back at this point. NOT that I am
>enjoying Jax and Brenda, but at least with them I can fast-forward
>without worrying about missing anything that I'd like. If they bring
>Maurice back then I'd HAVE to watch them because I can't not watch
>Maurice.
LOL! i see your point...but i'll take him any way i can get him at this
point. j&b are just SOOOOOO painful these days, that i'd GLADLY return
to the most dreadful triangle days rather than suffer through this. at
least his return would shake things up a little. after all, this robin
thing is doing that now, but it can't last forever!
>OTOH, it would be nice if they did a little damage control to Sonny's
>rep... which I'm not sure I believe is possible.
that's all i want. i'm not sure it's possible either, but i'd at least
like to see them try. you can't tell me that, for example, robin would
be missing, presumably (for all jason knows) at the hands of one of
these mob guys, and sonny WOULDN'T come back. or at least talk to
jason, if he couldn't come back publicly. not that i think this is why
he would come back in may (PLEASE tell me this kidnapping won't last
until MAY?!?), but i'd really, more than anything else, like him to
clear the air with brenda, because i don't think she can move on at ALL
until he does. and because i'm STILL pissed at the damage done to his
character with that departure.
>And this "limited run" stuff isn't much better -- though at least
>maybe they can put an end to the Sonny-bashing.
well yeah, that doesn't thrill me either. HOWEVER (and let me put on my
pollyanna face here), he was originally HIRED (way back when) for a
limited run, but got so popular that he stuck around. so.....well, who
knows. all i can say is that first, i havent' seen him doing much else
since he left, and second, i don't really care HOW limited it is, i just
want him BACK!!! :) besides, in addition to the whole brenda thing,
LUKE could really use him about now. as could jason. and robin. and
mike. and me!
>>Also expected, but not set in ink, is the reappearance of GENIE
>>FRANCIS (Laura) in the near future.
>
>Woo hoo!
>
><happy dance>
well...if either of the above is true, gh will go from great to
unbelievably stupendous, very VERY soon.
julie
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From: "Gina Clayton" <GCLAYTON@LES.LES.SC.EDU>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: playing catch-up...
Date: 25 Mar 1998 13:11:26 EST5EDT
> as for gh...
>
> i'm finding the whole story kind of unrealistic. first of
> all, robin put up NO fight whatsoever. i realize she's a bit of a
> midget, but she could have at LEAST tried to kick him or hit him or knee
> him or SOMETHING. *i* would've... but beyond that--are we to believe
> that every citizen of port charles carries a cell phone (so much so that
> someone--i forget who--actually used it IN HIS/HER OWN HOUSE during one
> of the past 4 eps), but robin doesn't have one when she needs it? i'm
> disappointed all around--i really thought the daughter of robert and
> anna would've been a little more resourceful. she hasn't even TRIED to
> find a way out.
I was wondering about the cell phone myself...I could have sworn that
she carries one. The only reason I can think of for her not fighting
is to stay for Micheal's sake. Maybe she was afraid that Tony would
disappear with the baby if she got away and Jason would never find
them. BTW....I think it is really creepy the way Tony keeps asking
about Micheal to Alan and Carly, not to mention the fact that he was
there when Jax and Brenda came to tell Mac that robin is missing.
His facial expressions are priceless....as much as I hate what Tony
is doing, BM is doing a wonderful job
> the lucky/helena and luke/lizzie scenes...LOVED them! this story just
> gets better and better.
ITA...especially the Lizzie/Luke scenes. I loved it when Liz
thought she should look like Laura because they had both been raped.
Now I just wish that Laura would come back!!:):)
> jax and brenda...sigh. at least this robin kidnapping is shaking up
> their story a tad (and bringing v back, too!) that's about the best i
> can say for those two. this wooing business is really making me ill.
ITA....there is so much other useful things that they could do than
bat their eyelashes at each other.
> and i LOVED jason's bodyguards! considering what his men USUALLY look
> like, i find it kind of funny that he would choose the most disreputable
> looking men he could find to guard emily and lila. and i loved em's
> reaction to them!
Edward's reaction was priceless too!! I wish they would give Emily a
love interest now. hmmm....maybe she can meet a bad boy and fall for
him much to Jason and the Q's distress , or is that too much like Stone/Robin????
> come on guys...SOMEBODY must have SOMETHING to say! :)
>
> julie
That is all I can think of right now!!
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From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: Re: GH casting spoiler/rumor from SOD
Date: 25 Mar 1998 10:20:38 -0800
At 09:58 AM 3/25/98 PST, Julie Saker wrote:
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>soap opera digest web page (www.soapdigest.com), in their "comings and
>goings" section. is sod one of the ones that's wrong more than right,
>or right more than wrong?
In general SOD is the best of all of them. They have flubbed a few in the
past couple of months, though. But I suspect that had more to do with
ABC/Wendy Riche changing their minds after they sent the mags the spoiler
info than the mags themselves actually screwing up.
>LOL! i see your point...but i'll take him any way i can get him at this
>point. j&b are just SOOOOOO painful these days, that i'd GLADLY return
>to the most dreadful triangle days rather than suffer through this.
Ye giads! Not me! I'd rather be abel to indiscriminantly use my
fast-forward button! Ugh.
>he would come back in may (PLEASE tell me this kidnapping won't last
>until MAY?!?),
It can't because Robin gets sick. Non-HIV related pneumonia and she goes
into the hospital (IMO they are taking the chicken way out by having it be
totally non-HIV related, but I digress...). She and Kat cross over to PC
and they have an ep with Lucy.
>but i'd really, more than anything else, like him to
>clear the air with brenda, because i don't think she can move on at ALL
>until he does.
Not unless eh physically moves on... all the way out of town.
>and because i'm STILL pissed at the damage done to his
>character with that departure.
I'm not even going to GO there.
>well yeah, that doesn't thrill me either. HOWEVER (and let me put on my
>pollyanna face here), he was originally HIRED (way back when) for a
>limited run, but got so popular that he stuck around. so.....well, who
>knows.
LOL!! Keep tryin, babe! He was originally hired as a limited run because
of the storyline, and it was only because of Maurice's willingness to stay
AND the show's willingness to keep him that he stuck around for four years.
Situation's a bit different this time. Unfortunatley.
>all i can say is that first, i havent' seen him doing much else
>since he left, and second, i don't really care HOW limited it is, i just
>want him BACK!!! :) besides, in addition to the whole brenda thing,
>LUKE could really use him about now. as could jason. and robin. and
>mike. and me!
Well, I can't argue THAT! <g>
>well...if either of the above is true, gh will go from great to
>unbelievably stupendous, very VERY soon.
It could!
Just gotta keep our fingers crossed.
Taiyin
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'Tag, You're It' and we can play all the games I never
had the chance to play when I was a kid?" -- Kevin to Lucy
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From: "Julie Saker" <jesaker@hotmail.com>
Subject: GH/PC: web page for gh spoilers
Date: 26 Mar 1998 10:02:53 PST
hi all! i found a whole bunch of gh spoilers, but since the person
whose web page it is had a WHOLE bunch of requests interspersed for
people NOT to copy the information and distribute it elsewhere, i
figured i'd just give you all the address so you can check them out
yourself if you want. it's:
www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/Set/3371/ghspoilers.html
however, there WAS one thing in there that i can't resist repeating,
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he'll ask brenda to leave with him...which i REALLY don't think i want
to watch. but the three weeks part wasn't so bad! (after the
RIDICULOUSLY short lois and julia returns we got when he left the first
time...)
so check it out if you want...
julie
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Subject: GH/PC: Today's GH
Date: 26 Mar 1998 22:01:05 -0600
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From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
Subject: GH/PC: Robin
Date: 29 Mar 1998 22:15:14 -0800
Like Julie said: The child of Robert and Anna isn't any more competant
than THAT? They're spinning in their graves. And Frisco and Sean seem to
have failed miserably as godfathers. And even Duke managed to botch this.
As though it weren't bad enough when they made Robin want to do something
with her life as "normal" as be a doctor, but now for her to be SO naive
and SO... WHAT?
It's as bad as her being a sanctimoious harpy.
Sheesh.
Guza rocks with Spencers and Cassadines, but he needs a crash course in
writing for everyone else.
Taiyin
Cranky and annoyed, and catching up on a week's worth of soaps...
"What did I do before I had you?"
--"You were lost and confused."
-- Lucy and Kevin
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From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: Today's GH
Date: 30 Mar 1998 00:32:09 -0800
<excerpt>At 10:01 PM 3/26/98 -0600, lela wrote:
>It's about time somebody lets Lucky have it. Granted he found out
something terrible about his dad, but he needs to get off his pity pot.
I loved it when Bobbie let him have it, that's the Bobbie i remembered.
</excerpt>
Actually, I thought Bobbie sounded like a HUGE hypocrite. I this she is
imposing a monumental double standard. It's perfectly ok for her to be
pissed at Luke for with-holding info about her daughter, but then she
actually has the nerve to take Luke's side when he does the same thing
she was ticked about to someone else. No way, Jose.
Luke and Stefan both need to be THRASHED, up one side and down the other
for summarily deciding what Laura should and should not be told. And I
wish (pipe dream, I know) that she would come back and tear them both to
SHREDS for dolling out info that she has ever right to have. It's a
dispicable habit and both of them have it. And it's, IMO, the same thing
that Luke did to Lucky.
No, I wouldn't have expected him to tell Lucky when he was a kid, but
when something is public record like that, and you are living in the same
town where it happened, Luke had no right to let someone else tell Lucky
that first. He had an obligation to be the one to tell him.
Yeah, Lucky would have been hurt and angry and disillusioned, but he's
right, the way this played out makes Luke look like an amazing hypocrite.
He basically breeds Lucky from birth to hate the Cassadines. And then
he either specifically or implicitly says that Nikolas was a child of
rape, and folds that into the deck of hatred he and Lucky have stored up
for the Cassadine men.
So far the only thing I can blame Lucky for is the fact that he went to
Bobbie's at all in the first place. That was just dumb.
<excerpt>>I loved the scene with Jason and Stephan. Stephan is going to
find out who Jason really is.
</excerpt>I agree with that one. Stefan needs to be knocked on his butt
every once in a while. And I'd rather see someone other than Luke get a
crack at it now and then.
Taiyin
"What did I do before I had you?"
--"You were lost and confused."
-- Lucy and Kevin
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From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
Subject: GH/PC: Friday
Date: 30 Mar 1998 01:01:32 -0800
That hooker looks REALLY familiar and I have no idea why.
But the scenes with her and Luke were great.
The entire time Jason was at the cabin I kept yelling, "Cell phone!" and
"9-1-1!" at the TV.
And where on EARTH was Rinaldo?
Taiyin
"What did I do before I had you?"
--"You were lost and confused."
-- Lucy and Kevin
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From: "Fred & Rickie Yopp" <yopp@rightathome.com>
Subject: GH/PC: GH
Date: 30 Mar 1998 07:34:30 -0800
Did I miss something on Fridays show? How did Jason end up at Tony's
cabin? I wonder what will happen now??
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From: "Julie Saker" <jesaker@hotmail.com>
Subject: GH/PC: Re: Robin
Date: 30 Mar 1998 07:44:03 PST
taiyin wrote:
>Like Julie said: The child of Robert and Anna isn't any more
>competant than THAT? They're spinning in their graves.
absolutely. i'm sorry--i used to really like robin--but her efforts to
do ANYTHING other than whine and look pathetic were COMPLETELY
ridiculous. i understand she's sick, and weak, and tiny, and all
that...but she was just so ineffectual! this is supposed to be robin,
expert sharpshooter? this person who can't even break out of an
ordinary room that was never intended or designed to be used as a
prison? puh-LEEZE. that's okay, robin...just sit there and wait for
jason to show up on his white horse. gag.
>As though it weren't bad enough when they made Robin want to do
>something with her life as "normal" as be a doctor, but now for her
>to be SO naive and SO... WHAT?
pitiful? weak? helpless? passive? incapable? i could go on and
on...
>It's as bad as her being a sanctimoious harpy.
oh and THAT too...the second jason DOES show up on his white horse, she
IMMEDIATELY reverts back to "robin knows best" mode?!? come on robin,
the guy just saved your life, and now you're going to go right back to
treating him like a CHILD??? don't get me wrong, i don't think killing
tony would have been the smartest move for jason to make either...but
her tone just really gets to me these days. it's like "the great oz has
spoken," or something.
>Guza rocks with Spencers and Cassadines, but he needs a crash course
>in writing for everyone else.
true. i DID love it when carly was so overcome with relief that she
called bobbie "mama," but i guess she technically counts as a spencer...
:)
(combining posts, since the topic was similar...)
>The entire time Jason was at the cabin I kept yelling, "Cell phone!"
>and "9-1-1!" at the TV.
and "why on earth are you just SITTING there?!? LEAVE!!!"
>And where on EARTH was Rinaldo?
that's the one that REALLY irked me. we all KNOW jason never goes
anywhere without guards--and they all of a sudden showed up in that
scene where they were tying tony up--so explain to me how tony would
have ever even gotten into the cabin, let alone have a chance to pull a
GUN on jason. pathetic. at least it's over...and i LOVED in the
preview that it's the interns who are there when robin gets rushed into
the hospital. it's about TIME we acknowledge that this is all in ONE
hospital! YEAH CROSSOVERS!!! :)
julie
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From: Cagey <cagey@geocities.com>
Subject: Re: GH/PC: Fridays show (was "GH")
Date: 30 Mar 1998 10:55:24 -0500
Fred and/or Rickie wrote:
>Did I miss something on Fridays show? How did Jason end up at Tony's
>cabin?
Jason discovered that Robin and Nik were together the afternoon that Robin
disappeared. He went to Spook Central to question Nik (leading to another
nice confrontation between Jason--I love those suits!--and Stefan), found
out that Tony had dropped a receipt and Robin picked it up, and that Robin
then told Nik she had to go, and there was something she might be able to
do for Michael. I don't actually remember that last comment happening, so
maybe I misheard Nik's retelling of events. At any rate, Jason, proving
that he can think, took no time at all to put two and two together, and
went to the cabin.
--kg
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From: "Julie Saker" <jesaker@hotmail.com>
Subject: GH/PC: Re: bobbie/lucky/luke
Date: 30 Mar 1998 07:58:00 PST
taiyin wrote:
>Actually, I thought Bobbie sounded like a HUGE hypocrite. I this she
>is imposing a monumental double standard.
ditto. was i the only one SCREAMING at the tv as they came in all
buddy-buddy carrying groceries? what happened to her justifiable rage?
what happened to never forgetting? never getting over it? pretty weak,
if you ask me...
>And I
>wish (pipe dream, I know) that she would come back and tear them both
>to SHREDS for dolling out info that she has ever right to have.
pipe dream indeed...but it WOULD be nice!
>So far the only thing I can blame Lucky for is the fact that he went
>to Bobbie's at all in the first place. That was just dumb.
well, i kind of agree with lizzie and bobbie and luke and whoever else
has pointed out that this crime didn't happen to HIM, it happened to
laura, and if she's made peace with it who is HE to throw himself in the
middle of something that fundamentally had nothing to do with him.
however, being as he DID idolize his father, and this DID all come right
on the heels of lizzie's rape, i can understand his reaction. but i DO
think he's being a little bit of a brat. childish tricks like the
silent treatment, and running away, and that thing with the song aren't
exactly the best way to go, imho.
but that could possibly be because i've NEVER really liked lucky all
that much, until the current story with lizzie! :)
julie
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From: "Julie Saker" <jesaker@hotmail.com>
Subject: GH/PC: Re: GH
Date: 30 Mar 1998 08:07:16 PST
"Fred & Rickie Yopp" wrote:
>Did I miss something on Fridays show? How did Jason end up at Tony's
>cabin? I wonder what will happen now??
i'm not exactly sure what question you're asking--how he ended up at the
cabin, how he knew to go there, or what happened on friday--so here's
what i know...
on thurs. he finally talked to brenda, who remembered robin saying
something that led jason to conclude that robin might have seen nik the
day she disappeared. he went to spoon island and, despite stefan's best
attempts, spoke to nik, and learned that they had seen tony that day,
and that robin had subsequently realized she knew something she could do
to help jason find michael. jason concluded from this that robin knew
tony had michael, and went to the cabin to find them. (he knew about
that because they had been there before with the police). he got there,
found robin and michael, and before they could leave was confronted by
tony who pulled a rifle on him. jason managed to distract him long
enough to get the gun away, and was about to pulverize him when st.
robin interceded on tony's behalf. he then had his guys tie tony up and
stay with him until the cops came, while he rushed robin to the
hospital, after making clear to tony that if she died, he wouldn't live
much longer.
hope that helps!
julie
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From: "Julie Saker" <jesaker@hotmail.com>
Subject: GH/PC: SID article...VM interview, sonny...spoilers i guess
Date: 30 Mar 1998 11:11:29 PST
some kind soul typed this onto pc online, so i figured i'd cut and paste
it here. it's articles from soaps in depth's march 31 issue, with info.
about sonny and an interview with vanessa marcil. i guess technically
it might contain spoilers--or anti-spoilers, if there is such a
thing--so i'll leave space just in case.
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ok, here goes. i REALLY can't take much more of this:
The following is from Soaps In Depth's March 31, 1998 issue, an article
on Sonny's possible return and Vanessa's interview in which she
discusses whether she will stay or leave the show.
Is Sonny Returning??
Soaps In Depth has learned that, at press time, contrary to the
popular rumor making the rounds, no deal has been struck for Maurice
Benard to return to the show for a short time. Despite the fact that an
ABC spokesperson had no comment, viewers shouldnÆt be surprised if
Benard does wind up reprising his role as the brooding crime boss
sometime during May sweeps. ôI would come back in a second.ö ôEven if I
was doing other stuff, I would still want to do GH.ö The actorÆs GH
co-stars are game, ôNothing is finer than working with Maurice Benard,ö
says leading lady Vanessa Marcil. ôI definitely would go upstairs and
talk to the producers and make sure that we would be working together in
some way if he came back.ö Even BenardÆs on screen rival Ingo Rademacher
hopes that Sonny returns. ôThat would be good
for the storyline.ö the actor notes.
VanessaÆs Interview: At A Crossroads, movie offers are pouring in but
that doesnÆt mean that Vanessa Marcil soon will be walking out.
Vanessa Marcil didnÆt always live like a superstar. In fact, it
wasnÆt too long ago that the actress was a free-wheeling bachelorette,
sleeping on a matters in a room with three other girls, all of them just
trying to get by. It wasnÆt a pretty existence, but, she recalls, it
certainly was simple. ôMy friends and I would go buy a bag of potatoes
and just figure out ways to make them.ö she says. We were just kids,
hanging out, living dirty and cheap. I used to laugh,ö she continues,
ôbecause yeah, I was on TV, and the girl at the grocery store wanted my
autograph, but I couldnÆt pay my phone bill. Bet she didnÆt know that!
Cut to 1998: Six years after joining GH and striking gold as Port
Charles ingenue Brenda Barrett, Marcil finally has a bed with a frame,
and she can hire someone to mash her potatoes, never mind keep Ma Bell
off her back. But the actressÆ awesome popularity hasnÆt swelled her
head to the point where she has lost sight of her meager beginnings.
ôWhat people donÆt know is that for the first few years on a show like
this, you donÆt make that much money,ö she says. People think that
youÆre rich but youÆre not.
ôBut, ô she adds quickly, ôIÆm glad that I started like that
because it kept me really humble and grateful for everything. ôI got a
new car for the first time last year. ItÆs a BMW convertible, and itÆs a
dream come true. I walk backwards and look at it because I canÆt believe
that itÆs really my car, and I bought it and itÆs new.ö
A Legend In Her Own Time
ItÆs not like Marcil hasnÆt earned the trappings of fame. In her GH
tenure she has worked hard to make a name for herself as one of
soapdomÆs most gifted actresses, and to transform Brenda from a spoiled
little rich brat into one of the genreÆs most multidimensional young
heroines. And in the on-screen romance department her success is
unparalleled. She clicked - and clicked big - with three leading men:
Antonio Sabato Jr., Maurice Benard and Ingo Rademacher. Head writer Bob
Guza explains her appeal as a leading lady thusly: ôShe has an extremely
unique capacity to project simultaneously strength and
vulnerability,ö he says. ôSo even when you see her collapsing, you see a
strong woman collapsing. When sheÆs giving herself, you see a strong
independent woman giving herself. ThatÆs very hard to find, and she does
it. I think thatÆs the key to making those romances work. ItÆs Marcils
winning combination of spirit and fragility that led Guza to hand her
the most demanding storyline to date: BrendaÆs recent mental
breakdown following her wedding-day abandonment by Sonny. Prior to
filming the first scene Marcil told SID in November she was concerned
she wouldnÆt be able to accomplish the daunting task at hand. ôIÆm
always afraid I canÆt do stuff before I do it.ö Now in her first
full-length interview since Brenda took hold of a tripod and threw Port
Charles into a tailspin the actress, who recently won her second Daytime
Emmy Award nomination admits that her insecurity has given way to
newfound confidence in her abilities. ôIt was definitely the most
challenging storyline that I have ever done.ö ôAnd it was the most
satisfying, too. I really got to every place that I wanted to
(emotionally) - places that I was afraid that I might not be able to get
to. ôIÆm glad it didnÆt go on too long though, because it kind of took
itÆs toll on me, ô she continues. ôPeople might have a good cry one day
out of every six months and you feel so exhausted afterwards. ItÆs like
somebody has beaten you up. So doing that every day is really draining.
ôIt was a very irritable time for me,ö she admits. ôI havenÆt quite
mastered how to give 100 percent one second and then five minutes later
go back to normal life mode.ö
ThereÆs nothing to fear....
Although MarcilÆs GH work sometimes puts her through the wringer,
she wouldnÆt have it any other way. In fact sheÆs so devoted to the soap
that when she is called upon to turn on the water works, the worst case
scenario she conjures up invariably involves the show. ôIf I have an
emotional scene, IÆll sit there and imagine that itÆs my last day on GH,
and IÆll be a wreck,ö she reveals. ôThatÆs how I make myself cry.
ThatÆs how much this show has meant to me. To MarcilÆs horror, such an
exit scenario almost played itself out last August when she nearly
followed Benard and Sonny out of Port Charles for good. But at the last
minute, the actress opted to resign (reportedly for a year) despite the
fact that Hollywood was beckoning. After she played Nicolas CageÆs
girlfriend in 1996Æs box-office smash The Rock her career was like a
train gaining momentum, and her agents were anxious for her to jump
aboard. ôFor the last year and a half, IÆve been sabotaging my career
outside of GH,ö she concedes. ôAfter The Rock, there were a lot of
things I got offered I turned down.ö Even Benard was sure his on-screen
amour was going to shove off. ôIt surprised me that she stay, ô he said
in August. ôWith everything that sheÆs got going for her, she should
go.ö So what convinced HollywoodÆs Next Big Thing to keep her day job?
ôI just wanted to be challenged in my acting, and as long as theyÆre
doing that here, I donÆt really care about becoming a big star. That
might be hard to believe for some people.ö Like for instance her agents.
They nearly dropped her as a client after she re-upped with GH, she
says. ôThey think that I could be this big movie star if I wanted to. I
would literally cancel huge auditions for huge movies because I had 20
important scenes the next day on GH. My agentÆs like, ôThis is a movie!ö
And I would just go, ôYeah but you know what ? IÆm on four scenes in
that movie, and I could do them in my sleep. TheyÆre not even a
challenge. The stuff on GH that IÆm doing tomorrow is so great! And my
agentÆs like, ôYouÆre so weird.ö But I donÆt care if they think IÆm
crazy for loving this show.ö
Love On The Set
MarcilÆs fondness for one particular co-star may be partly to blame
for her anxiety about possibly separating from GH. Her one-year plus
relationship with now fiancΘÆ Tyler Christopher certainly makes
her commute to work more enjoyable and soon, the two will begin spending
more time on screen together as well. ôWe will be working together
more.ö Marcil reveals. To date, Brenda and Nikolas have
only had one scene together - last December, when she visited the
wounded lad in the hospital. They might have more scenes together and
even a storyline, had she not clicked with Rademacher, Marcil
suggests. ôI believe that if Brenda and Jax hadnÆt been such a smash hit
that the writers definitely would have liked to have had Brenda and
Nikolas become romantically involved. As it is, the actors real life
relationship is chronicled much as a soap plot. Each week, a new rumor
is born, and courtesy of the Internet, spreads faster than a California
brush fire. For instance when the couple postponed their winter wedding
until spring, speculation intensified that their romance was on the
rocks. The latest idle chatter had it that Marcil and Christopher were
feuding with Rademacher and one time girlfriend Rebecca Herbst. ôI heard
that I broke up with Tyler, and he and Ingo got into a fist fight in the
parking lot, and Wendy Riche set up BeckyÆs and my schedules so that
weÆre not working at the same time,ö sayÆs Marcil. ôItÆs hysterical. Our
lives are so boring that I guess itÆs disappointing to people.ö ôFor the
record,ö she adds, ôIngo and I have never for one second been
romantically involved with each other. I mean, not for one second, in
real life, outside of GH. WeÆre great friends, but itÆs not like we even
hung out before I got together with Tyler.ö Also for the record, Marcil
and Christopher still are happily
engaged, and recently purchased a house together in Hollywood Hills. As
for their wedding it will happen when it happens. ôThe reality is that
we truly want a great honeymoon, says the bride-to-be. ôItÆs hard
with our acting schedules to both get two weeks off at the same time.ö
None of Your Beeswax
The fact that everything about Marcil is noticed and even debated
in public is not lost on her - although she wishes it was. ôItÆs
actually my biggest problem in acting, ô she sighs. ôItÆs a very odd
thing to have that many people look at you and judge you, and I donÆt
like it. I donÆt know how anyone can handle that. It makes me want to
hide.ö The scrutiny likely will get worse. if Marcil becomes the big
deal everyone predicts she will, she and Tyler could wind up being the
next Demi and Bruce. That reality may prompt Marcil to keep her star
from rising any higher. ôI donÆt know if I want to not be able to take
my kids to Disneyland,ö she offers, ôI donÆt know if I want my kids to
have to see me on the cover of all those trash magazines saying these
horrible things. If I want to gain 20 pounds, I donÆt want to be called
a fat cow in Star magazine. ôMy dreams are that I want to have a family;
I want to have what I never had as a little girl. Being a movie star...I
donÆt know if I want that.
Decision Time
When her GH contract expires this summer Marcil will once again
have to answer that very question : Does she want to make movies, or
does she want to stick with what she considers to be the best job in
the world? ôIÆm kind of in the same position that I was in last year.ö
she says. ôI have a development deal with ABC like I had last year,
which means they pay me a certain amount to go out on their pilots. So
if I do a pilot this year that gets picked up I have to do it. Even if I
wanted to stay here I couldnÆt. ôIf it happens, it will probably be the
most devastating thing IÆve ever gone through. But I also know you canÆt
stagnate yourself.ö If Marcil does indeed depart this summer she will
have a tough time finding a part thatÆs as rewarding as Brenda, and she
is acutely aware of it. ôMy worst fear is that IÆll leave to do a
primetime show because thatÆs the thing to do - thatÆs the so-called
more respectable place to go - and IÆll make more money and all that,ö
she says ôand I wonÆt be as happy as I am here. In that case I would
come back. For me itÆs all about being happy with the work I did that
day when I get into bed that night. ôItÆs really not going to matter
whether or not I get a lot of money,ö she concludes. ôIn the end, all I
really need is a place to live, people I love, and a bag of potatoes.ö
Other Side Articles that accompany the Interview
The Men In BrendaÆs Life
Having had the good fortune to work with two of daytimeÆs hottest
leading men, Vanessa Marcil is the envy of her peers - and donÆt think
she doesnÆt know it. ôItÆs hard not to look at either of them in a scene
and truly feel like youÆre not in love with them, ô she says, ôTheyÆre
both extraordinary.ö But the guys note, it takes two to tango.
Maurice Benard says - ôVanessa has become such a wonderful actress.
SheÆs always been a star in her own right, but sheÆs a wonderful actress
and works hard at it. SheÆs feisty, and weÆre similar in a lot of ways,
especially as far as thatÆs concerned. So there was always tension
between us, and that tension made for good acting.ö
Ingo Rademacher says - ôNo matter what the material is like, no
matter how you look, of your not a good actor, you canÆt pull it off.
People arenÆt going to be interested because your not believable. So you
have to bring that to the plate when your an actor, and Vanessa does
that. She knows her stuff. Whatever they put in front of her, people are
drawn to her. Some actors your drawn to, others youÆre not. YouÆve got
to be able to capture an audience and Vanessa does that.ö
Who Will Brenda Choose?
Rumors persist that if Vanessa Marcil leaves GH this summer,
Maurice Benard will return to give Brenda and Sonny a happy ending.
Headwriter Bob Guza wouldnÆt confirm such a scenario but did reveal that
regardless of MarcilÆs plans, Brenda will have to make a choice soon.
ôHer journey has to be to put Sonny behind her - genuinely,ö Guza says.
ôShe has to get past him to give herself fully to Jax. ThatÆs still to
be dramatized.ö In other words, nothingÆs over till itÆs over, folks.
Other Random Quotes - included with the pictures in the article.
ôItÆd be cool for Brenda to leave as a character who has never been
married.ö Vanessa Marcil
ôBrendaÆs one true love is Sonny.ö Bob Guza
ôDonÆt get any bright ideaÆs Jax, If I leave I donÆt want it to be with
a big wedding.ö Vanessa Marcil
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From: Cagey <cagey@geocities.com>
Subject: GH/PC: Tony, and Brenda and You Know Who
Date: 31 Mar 1998 08:31:48 -0500
So how are they going to write Tony out of this hole? I just can't see
Jason or Carly dropping the charges....
As for Brenda and
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with the "new and improved" Jason (particularly given the injection of
Carly and Michael into the mix) far more interesting than that with Brenda.
I think the writers have really laid the foundation for Brenda to move on
from Sonny, and while I'm not thrilled with Jax and Brenda, I just can't
see a "happy ending" for S&B the way things stand.
Musings on a Tuesday morning...
--kg, who has been dreaming about Ellen and Matt <g>
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From: Danielle Graham <DGraham@bn.com>
Subject: GH/PC: GH/PC - Tony
Date: 31 Mar 1998 15:54:30 -0500
So how are they going to write Tony out of this hole?
Just like Robin said yesterday, he just snapped! Hello, insanity! Was
anyone else overly concerned about the way Carly (Sarah Brown) ran full
steam ahead to Tony? I mean, the girl is pregnant. I was waiting for her
to fall. Anyway, you know that Robin will be the saving grace for Tony.
How 'bout that slap Bobbi handed Tony? You could see that one winding
up! Classic!....And by the way, I can't wait for the 35th anniversary
show! The previews look fab. Especially the one when Luke sees Laura for
the 1st time when she came back from the "dead"! VCR will be set for
that one!
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