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- From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
- Subject: Re: GH/PC: Huh? Michael
- Date: 01 Feb 1998 20:31:44 -0800
-
- At 08:29 AM 1/31/98 -0800, Cagey wrote:
- >
- >Jill's been converted! Jill's been converted! Woo hoo! ;)
-
- Finally! It took long enoguh. ;-)
-
- >Steve's been doing a wonderful job with this. And, as much
- >as I generally like Robin as a character, the interaction
- >between Jason and the baby is the reason I've just wanted
- >to smack her of late.
-
- Damn, you aren't kidding. As soon as she dragged Jason out in the hall
- yesterday I started throwing things at my TV again until my sister bellowed
- at me to cut it out. ;-)
-
- I was so ticked, though. I can't believe she did that. She didn't see the
- fiasco at the Qs. She missed all of that. And because of that she has no
- right to subsitute her judgement for Jason's on that. They all, INCLUDING
- AJ, proved that they are one of the most immediate sources of emotional
- danger to that child. If Robin doesn't want to see that, fine, but she has
- no right to moraliz to Jason about that.
-
- I don't care WHO is the kid's biological father.
-
- >I don't think she's even considered that it's
- >become more than simply doing a favor for Carly to Jason.
-
- Neither do I. And I think her "where the hell is Carly?" comment to Bobbie
- spoke volumes on that score.
-
- >Marino was interesting; have we seen him before?
-
- Nope. Powerful presence, that one.
-
- >And I loved the look on Mike's face when Jason announced
- >the name <g>.
-
- How did I know you'd say that? <g>
-
- >My week would be complete if Carly stood up there and
- >announced that the baby's middle name would be Spencer,
- >after her maternal family <veg>. But the chances of that
- >happening are slim....
-
- Woo hoo! Imagine all that coming down in a church? <snicker>
-
- Taiyin
- "We swept the Nave; we know the priest; and
- we'll take our chances with the altar boys."
- -- "You gotta have some faith."
- -- Jason's Bodygaurds, GH
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- From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
- Subject: Re: GH/PC: Spoilers GH
- Date: 01 Feb 1998 20:35:36 -0800
-
- At 08:38 AM 1/31/98 -0800, Cagey wrote:
- >
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- >Hmmmmm. Where was it that we saw something about Nancy
- >filming a love scene 8 months pregnant? Somebody's set
- >visit? At any rate, I've been wondering whether Guza
- >intended to explore this relationship more or not.
-
- That was me from the GH event at the Museum last week. And they sounded
- like they were going that direction -- even aside from the one love scene.
-
- >>Tony's dark side emerges.
- >
- >He takes to wearing a cape and frequenting the roof tops of
- >Port Charles by night. His plan...well, he doesn't have
- >one. But he's pissed, dammit.
-
- And making damn sure that EVERYONE knows it, too.
-
- >And I may I say that Sarah's showing up at Q mansion with
- >"I was wondering if Emily was back yet" when she *knew* it
- >was supposed to be a secret, has only confirmed my
- >perception of her as a world class moron. One hopes that
- >she will be so jealous of Em and Nik, that she will leave
- >town. Please.
-
- <snort> I said that same thing. And it's not even just a matter of the
- character being stupid, but the actress has three facial expressions. And
- she only seems to remember to change the look on her face AFTER she's said
- her lines. It always looks like an after thought.
-
- >If I were Marino, I don't think I'd have a great deal of
- >respect for Jason after the christening. All I'd have to
- >do is threaten to kidnap the Q's and deposit them on
- >Jason's doorstep whenever I felt like it. ;)
-
- You'd have that boy in a witness protection program in less than a week
- with a threat like that.
-
- Taiyin
- "What did I do before I had you?"
- --"You were lost and confused."
- -- Lucy and Kevin
-
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- From: "Donald K Gooden" <dkgooden@email.msn.com>
- Subject: GH/PC: GH Spoilers part 2
- Date: 02 Feb 1998 11:02:41 -0500
-
- Spoilers for The week of Feb 2
- Jamila
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- For The Week Of January 26 - 30
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- Brenda's plan to win back Jax runs into trouble, when Ashley comes to
- town.
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- "Dad" and "grandma" urge Carly to bond with her son.
-
- Will the deal Moreno offers Jason be one he can't refuse?
-
- Will Tony refuse Lorraine's advances when she puts the moves on him?
-
- Ned and Alexis make a clandestine agreement
-
- Sarah is upset when Liz informs her about the status of Emily's
- friendship with Nikolas.
-
- Elizabeth upsets Sarah with news of Nikolas' recent companion.
-
- Felicia figures the best way to cover her sleuthing is to accept James's
- proposal, even though she knows the prints aren't Mac's. Soon after Mac
- escapes in the storm, he and James have the big face-off.
-
- Two enemies form an unlikely alliance.
-
- Helena hopes that her gift to Katherine, through Alexis, will rattle
- Stefan's cage.
-
- Alan hits the panic button when he finds himself stranded and out of his
- pills, but comfort comes from an unlikely source.
-
- Don't laugh or cry Carly, but your past is coming to town.
-
- "Mac" proposes to Felicia once again.
-
- The condition of Nikolas continues to improve.
-
- It's truth & consequences, as Monica sounds off to both Bobbie and
- Carly.
-
- Carly tells the truth, the whole truth ... and heaven help Luke!!!
-
- As Lucky helps Elizabeth through a personal crisis, Luke must face the
- darkest truth about his past.''
-
- It's medicine won't be so sweet, when James gets a taste of his own.
-
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- ----
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-
- You're Going to These Days
-
- Monday
- Carly's arrival stuns guests at the baptism.
- Brenda finds that wanting and getting Jax back are two separate things,
- especially when
- another woman is involved.
- Edward believes that using Carly is key to getting his grandson.
-
- Tuesday
- Felicia continues to buy clues into "Mac's" strange behavior.
-
- Wednesday
- Alan is caught catching twenty winks behind the wheel of his car.
-
- Thursday
- Bobbie and Carly don't see eye to eye on the subject of rejected/abandoned
- childen.
- Stefan & Katherine's relationship is disruptued by Helena's injections about
- Laura.
-
- Friday
- You'll feel the earth move when Carly tells Bobbie the truth about her own
- paternity.
- It's "twin city" once again, as Mac and Jimmy get up close and personal with
- each other.
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-
- Coming soon
- The turns are turned on Jimmy.
- It's dealer's choice, between Ned and Alexis.
- It's two steps forward and one step back for Nikolas.
- Dr. Jones is slowly turning into Mr. Hyde.
- Liz is caught in a dangerous situation, but is it of her own doing?
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- From: "Donald K Gooden" <dkgooden@email.msn.com>
- Subject: GH/PC: GH spoilers part 3
- Date: 02 Feb 1998 11:03:29 -0500
-
- Feb Sweeps
- Jamila
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- February Spoilers
-
- When Elizabeth is faced with a personal crisis, Lucky offers his
- assistance. This will force Luke to face the a truth that he would prefer to
- avoid.
-
- Nikolas' recovery is aided by a surprising ally.
-
- They say that one good turn deserves another, and you would think that is
- the case when Carly decides to tell Bobbie the truth about her paternity,
- after Bobbie helps Carly through the difficult process of bonding with her
- son. But the consequences of Carly's honesty will rock the house of Spencer
- and Jones in the form of Bobbie, Carly, Luke and Tony.
-
- It may be too little too late, as Brenda realizes that Jax can make her
- happy ... but this is one choice that may no longer be hers.
-
- Alan is getting closer to hitting rock bottom, as his addiction pushes
- him into taking drastic measures.
-
- Mac and Felicia take immediate action to discover Tess' motives, and the
- "paper trail" leads back to well-known Port Charles resident.
-
- Phase #1 of Helena Regains Control goes into action, as she uses
- Katherine against Stefan.
-
- Jason's discovers that his ability to run his "business" effectively will
- be greatly affected by the involvement of Carly, the baby and Robin in his
- life.
-
-
- ----
-
- The Apocalypse,
- Port Charles Style
-
- When Carly appears at the church during her son's christening, she is still
- in the throes of her postpartum depression. Despite Jason's urging, Carly
- refuses to participate in the ceremony or even touch her won. However, she
- does intercede for the Quartermaines, despite Jason insistence that they not
- be included.
-
- Despite Carly's inability to bond with her son, Bobbie's own bonding spurs
- her own to help Carly deal with the new role of motherhood ... an effort
- that does not sit well with Carly. Once again, Carly's own bitterness comes
- to the surface as she chastises Bobbie for giving her own child up at birth.
- This attack urges Bobbie to finally "set the record straight," and what she
- says is the key to opening up Carly's heart to accept her son in her life.
- Both women go to Jason's apartment to see the baby, and as Carly cradles her
- son in her arms she finally confesses the truth to Bobbie, and tells her
- that she is her biological daughter.
-
- * * * *
-
- Mother and Child Reunions
-
- Carly's back and Bobbie's got her ... little knowing she's trying to help
- her daughter bond to her grandson. Two years ago Guza started laying the
- groundwork in the Carly as Bobbie's daughter storyline. While fans have
- been frustrated that this secret has taken so long to come to light, Guza is
- thrilled it waited until his return so he could bring this story to
- fruition.
-
- Determined not to be like Bobbie, and abandon her child, Carly returns to
- Port Charles. However, postpartum depression still has a firm grip on
- Carly who finds herself afraid to hold her son. One the one hand, Carly
- doesn't want to abandon her son like she felt she was abandoned, o the other
- hand, she feels she hurts everyone who gets near her and fears she'll screw
- up her child. Bobbie tries to help, unaware that Carly is still struggling
- with depression. Between Bobbie's encouragement and Monica's disdain,
- Carly's insecurity gets the best of her. When Carly lashes out at Bobbie,
- she again brings up the fact that Bobbie gave her baby away, Bobbie tells
- Carly exactly how she felt about loving a child enough to do what is in
- their best interest. Bobbie and Carly bond, and Bobbie is able to convey
- the magic of holding your child for the first time. Since Michael is at
- the Port Charles Hotel with Jason, Bobbie agrees to take Carly to her her
- son unaware that Virginia Benson has come to town to meet her "phone friend"
- Bobbie.
-
- <Source: SOD ... rewrite by KarenL>
-
-
- ----
-
- We're Pregnant!!!
-
- Sarah Brown and real-life fiancĪe, film executive Shuki Levy, will become
- first-time parents this summer. Their engagement became official on July 14
- (Bastille Day) in Paris, when Levy gave Sarah a beautiful diamond ring ...
- amidst words of "Amore," standing on a hotel balcony, overlooking the Eiffel
- Tower to the sound of fireworks in the distance.
-
- When Sarah returned to the GH set the second week of January, following a
- four-week absence to film a movie with Levy, she announced to everyone that
- she was indeed "with child." However, due to the fact that she recently
- delivered a baby on the show, it will not be possible to work her real-life
- pregnancy into the storyline.
-
- Sarah herself will require months of "strategic camera angles, properly
- draped clothing and carefully crafted stage blocking will help to conceal
- her condition." Fans can probably except that as Carly bonds with her baby,
- the glow they see will actually be from the actress herself, as she
- anticipates the arrival of her own child.
-
- <Editor's Note: However, in the 1/27/98 chat transcript, Michael Kape said
- Sarah Brown is not pregnant:
- http://www.tvguide.com/chat/transcripts/ts012798b.htm>
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- From: "Donald K Gooden" <dkgooden@email.msn.com>
- Subject: GH/PC: Luke and his past
- Date: 02 Feb 1998 11:07:30 -0500
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- When Elizabeth is faced with a personal crisis, Lucky offers his
- assistance. This will force Luke to face the a truth that he would prefer to
- avoid.
-
-
- As Lucky helps Elizabeth through a personal crisis, Luke must face the
- darkest truth about his past.''
-
- Could this have anything to do with Luke's rape of Laura? Hmmmm. I wonder.
- If it does, I would say it is about time. I am way to young to have been
- watching when the rape actually happened, but I heard about it. I heard that
- Laura actually went to counseling, but then they brushed it under the rug
- when they decided to put Luke and Laura together. Correct me if I'm wrong
- but Rapists don't often marry their victims.
- Jamila
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- From: "Julie Saker" <jesaker@hotmail.com>
- Subject: Re: Re: GH/PC: Huh? Michael/Robin
- Date: 02 Feb 1998 08:14:45 PST
-
- traci wrote:
-
- >Am I the only one who thought that when she took Jason out in the
- >hall and said "This will take ONE moment." that she would turn
- >around, rip off her mask and start shooting flames at Jason???
-
- i am SO with you on that one! i usually like robin, but she is SOOOO
- far out of line on this one it isn't even funny. first of all, for all
- her talk that she doesn't see jason as brain-damaged, she's sure doing a
- real good impression of his mother these days. (and i don't mean
- monica--just that she's treating jason like a child who needs to be told
- what to do.) and secondly, i agree with taiyin--she has NO clue what
- she's talking about on this one. she wasn't at the q's the night of
- em's birthday--in fact, does she even KNOW about that incident, as far
- as we know? (did mike tell her that day at brenda's? i don't
- remember...) she has such narrowly prescribed notions of "right" and
- "wrong" that she can't even consider the possibility that aj's actions
- and motivations put him in the wrong in this instance. and third, IT'S
- NONE OF HER BUSINESS in the first place!!! she wasn't invited to that
- christening either...so where does she get off popping up like little
- miss fix-it, pulling jason aside, and telling him how to run his own
- ceremony?!? i was just DISGUSTED with her...
-
- >I keep expecting her head to start rotating and geen pea soup to
- >start spewing from her mouth. And I'm almost certain her hair is
- >covering the horns she's sprouting. I keep watching for an evil red
- >glint in her eyes. Every time she opens her mouth I expect that
- >gutteral "exorcist" voice to come out. Beware...if you see little
- >baby Michael floating around the house or Carly's bed starts
- >vibrating RUN FOR YOU LIFE IT'S SATANROBIN!.
-
- LOL! have you been hanging around pc online? there's a poster there
- named matt m who ALWAYS refers to her as "satanrobin"! (he's got some
- very funny gh top ten lists, by the way, at his web site:
- www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/4443/MMsGHTop10.html)
-
- >As for AJ, he is her cohort in evil.
-
- yeah, i'm having a very hard time mustering up any sort of sympathy for
- aj on this one. you are so right that he just WANTS the child-- and
- even though legally he's in the right, morally he is SO far in the wrong
- that i don't want him to EVER get his hands on this baby. (i know, this
- is exactly why we HAVE a legal system, so one person doesn't get to
- impose their own notion of right and wrong on the rest of the
- world...but i'm RIGHT dammit! <g> )
-
- >If going to church makes you a Christian, does going to the garage
- >make you a car?
-
- LOL! :)
-
- julie
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- From: "Julie Saker" <jesaker@hotmail.com>
- Subject: Re: Re: GH/PC: Huh? Michael
- Date: 02 Feb 1998 08:23:48 PST
-
- cynthia wrote:
-
- >I heard he's naming the baby Michael Robert Morgan. So he will get
- >both names and they'll call him Robert, or some version of that.
- >Jason's not going to call him Michael, I don't think. Someone
- >suggested that he chose Michael but is going to call him Bobby
- >because it would be awkward and confusing to call him Michael.
-
- i thought it was odd the spoilers would be wrong on that too...although
- they very clearly led up to jason's decision for AGES ahead of time, so
- i definitely saw it coming by friday. but i think you're probably
- right, that it will end up being something like michael robert and
- they'll call him robert or some verson thereof. maybe mama carly will
- even have an opinion on the subject! :) it's possible that between her
- supposed last name of roberts, and grandma bobbie, she'll come up with
- the robert part. who knows.
-
- >Anyway, I'm glad they named him after Sonny, I really miss him.
-
- yeah, i thought it was sweet. and it makes a lot of sense, if jason was
- the one naming him, that that's the name he'd pick.
-
- julie
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- From: "Julie Saker" <jesaker@hotmail.com>
- Subject: Re: GH/PC: Luke and his past
- Date: 02 Feb 1998 09:49:27 PST
-
- jamila wrote:
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- > When Elizabeth is faced with a personal crisis, Lucky offers his
- >assistance. This will force Luke to face the a truth that he would
- >prefer to avoid.
- >
- > As Lucky helps Elizabeth through a personal crisis, Luke must
- >face the darkest truth about his past.''
- >
- >Could this have anything to do with Luke's rape of Laura? Hmmmm. I
- >wonder. If it does, I would say it is about time. I am way to young
- >to have been watching when the rape actually happened, but I heard
- >about it. I heard that Laura actually went to counseling, but then
- >they brushed it under the rug when they decided to put Luke and Laura
- >together. Correct me if I'm wrong but Rapists don't often marry their
- >victims.
-
- sorry to disappoint you, but based on what i've read, that's not it.
- there was a question about that in last week's tvguide chat, which i
- posted here last week sometime, and the guy who does the chats said it's
- not the rape, it's not one of luke's memories that's involved, and in
- fact the questioner had the wrong gender entirely. (not a direct quote,
- but something like that) so the implication i got was that this would
- be something to do with a female's past, that has something to do with
- luke, which in my guess would be laura and nik's true paternity.
- (assuming genie comes back, of course...they can't really bring that to
- light without her...can they?)
-
- i wasn't watching back during the rape thing either, and think it would
- be kind of interesting if they WERE to tackle it now (if only so i could
- see the clip--i'm very interested, after all i've heard about it. if
- you're interested, i think taiyin has a transcript of the scene
- somewhere on her ultimate gh link page)...but in another way i kind of
- agree with something i read (that i can't remember if it was from guza
- or logan) that it would seem kind of irrelevant to deal with that NOW,
- after all these years of marriage. despite the fact that rapists and
- their victims don't tend to marry, these two obviously did, and have
- been married for many years and countless children, so why rehash it
- now? (beyond that, what would it do to lucky and lulu if they DID?
- does lucky know? (anybody know?) lulu's too young, but i would think
- that knowledge would SERIOUSLY affect lucky if he didn't alreay know...)
-
- julie
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- From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
- Subject: GH/PC: main floor
- Date: 02 Feb 1998 10:52:59 -0800
-
- I got this from a friend. -- Taiyin
-
- >Do you have a Port Charles list as well as a kevin and Lucy list...you may
- >want to pass on this info...the fashion show, "Main Floor" this week
- >feature 3 women from PC...not the woman who plays Lucy, but the one you
- >played craps with. [Julie Pinson, Eve]
- >
- >It's syndicated...I think the website is WWW.main.com
- >
- >
- >Suze
- >Suzecamp@Mindspring.com
- >"My dream is only a pathetic dream, but it's mine." Eric Sean Murphy
- >
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- From: "Traci DyAnn Haley" <remy@empnet.com>
- Subject: Re: Re: GH/PC: Huh? Michael/Robin
- Date: 02 Feb 1998 12:52:12 -0800
-
- <<LOL! have you been hanging around pc online?>>
-
- LOL! Yep, in fact I was wondering if anyone would be from PCO because I posted
- my little commentary on Robin in the Daily TAN post...my nick there is
- Wisteria.
-
- Beam me up, Scotty,
- Traci
- ~*~
- remy@empnet.com
- http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Bistro/3266 -- NEW HOME!
-
- God is coming and is she pissed!
-
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- From: Cagey <cagey@geocities.com>
- Subject: GH/PC: GH Monday
- Date: 02 Feb 1998 17:38:10 -0800 (PST)
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- Give me a gun. I'll shoot AJ myself. To give Billy
- Warlock credit, he succeeds very well at making AJ seem
- like a complete...er, let's tone that down to simply
- "jerk." Jerk jerk jerk jerk. Jerk.
-
- Q's were hilarious. "Michael!" Monica was waaaay catty.
- We're beyond meow, here.
-
- And the ghost of Duke. My, my, my, I love a writer who
- knows the history.
-
-
- I won't even bother to comment on PC. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
-
- --kg
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- From: AnneBPT@aol.com
- Subject: Re: GH/PC: Spoilers GH Part one
- Date: 02 Feb 1998 22:31:55 EST
-
- In a message dated 98-01-28 10:19:23 EST, jesaker@hotmail.com writes:
-
- << >>At V's urging, Felicia decides to spin the bottle ... will Jimmy pass
- the
- >>kiss test?>
-
- ooh...i forgot about that! wasn't it felicia, back when tess first came
- to town, who explained that women could always tell men apart by the way
- they kiss, and that mac in particular was a winner in that regard?
- now...they've kissed (she and jimmy)...more than once. shouldn't she
- have NOTICED? >>
-
- What ever happened to Felicia "being able to sense her lover," (even in drag).
- She claimed a sixth sense about Mac, and being able to sense it was him even
- dressed as Eve.
-
- Though I think she knew it was Mac only because she listened in on them
- practicing. Felicia really didn't have much of a clue this time about Jimmy.
- V was the one who was observant enough to notice all the changes.
-
- I wish they'd give V more to do. How nice it was to was to see her again!
-
- Anne
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- From: AnneBPT@aol.com
- Subject: Re: GH/PC: Spoilers GH Part one
- Date: 02 Feb 1998 22:31:55 EST
-
- In a message dated 98-01-28 10:19:23 EST, jesaker@hotmail.com writes:
-
- << >>At V's urging, Felicia decides to spin the bottle ... will Jimmy pass
- the
- >>kiss test?>
-
- ooh...i forgot about that! wasn't it felicia, back when tess first came
- to town, who explained that women could always tell men apart by the way
- they kiss, and that mac in particular was a winner in that regard?
- now...they've kissed (she and jimmy)...more than once. shouldn't she
- have NOTICED? >>
-
- What ever happened to Felicia "being able to sense her lover," (even in drag).
- She claimed a sixth sense about Mac, and being able to sense it was him even
- dressed as Eve.
-
- Though I think she knew it was Mac only because she listened in on them
- practicing. Felicia really didn't have much of a clue this time about Jimmy.
- V was the one who was observant enough to notice all the changes.
-
- I wish they'd give V more to do. How nice it was to was to see her again!
-
- Anne
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- From: "Gina Clayton" <GCLAYTON@LES.LES.SC.EDU>
- Subject: GH/PC: SPOILERS!!
- Date: 04 Feb 1998 15:29:22 EST5EDT
-
- Hey everyone!! Is it just me or is the list SLOW today??
- Here are some spoilers form SOD for the rest of the week:
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- Brenda tries her best out outshine Ashley at a party thrown by Jax.
- Amy finds Alan asleep in his car, he covers.
- Justus learns Taggert may have a crush on Dara.
- Helena forces Alexis to offer Kat a gift: a beautiful white dress.
- Of course, the pig that Kat is, she accepts it. Later, Stefan
- receives a wrapped package: a painting of Laura wearing almost hte
- exact white gown.
- Feleicia and V. snag "mac's" fingerprints and prove he's fake.
- The snowstorm starts and everyone gathers at the PC Hotel: Jason and
- Micheal go to have dinner with Mike and Em. Virginia Benson checks
- into the hotel.
- Carly and Bobbie argue over Michael. Bobbie convinces Carly to touch
- the baby so they go to the grille. Because of the snow, they must
- walk the last mile/ Once there, Jason hands Michael to Carly.
- Overwhelmed, a tearful Carly looks up at Bobbie and reveals she's her
- daughter.
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- Nik makes strides toward recovery.
- Tony undertakes a drastic change.
- Liz finds herself in a dangerous situation after she is rejected by
- Lucky. She asks him to go to the V-day dance, and sgrees but wants
- to take Sarah. She makes up a story about going out with a
- basketball player, then goes to the movies alone and then to the park
- to pass time. It is there she is grabbed form behind and dragged
- into the bushes.
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- Ned and Alexis have a very special night Feb 16th.
- Keesha makes an appeal on Justus' behalf on the 17th.
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- In SOW Jackie Zeman says that Bobbie will not believe Carly and calls
- her a bi**h and storms out of the room. She will confront Luke, who
- she never will be able to trust again. She tells Tony who lays into
- Carly. She goes to Stefan to see if he knew the truth since almost
- everyone else but Bobbie did. (she learns Jason and Luke made a
- pact about telling her th truth)
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- that's all guys!!
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- From: "Gina Clayton" <GCLAYTON@LES.LES.SC.EDU>
- Subject: GH/PC: GH: SPOILERS!!
- Date: 04 Feb 1998 16:08:29 EST5EDT
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- Hey everyone!! My name is Gina and I am new to the list.
- Here are some spoilers form SOD for the rest of the week:
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- Brenda tries her best out outshine Ashley at a party thrown by Jax.
- Amy finds Alan asleep in his car, he covers.
- Justus learns Taggert may have a crush on Dara.
- Helena forces Alexis to offer Kat a gift: a beautiful white dress.
- Of course, the pig that Kat is, she accepts it. Later, Stefan
- receives a wrapped package: a painting of Laura wearing almost the
- exact white gown.
- Feleicia and V. snag "mac's" fingerprints and prove he's fake.
- The snowstorm starts and everyone gathers at the PC Hotel: Jason and
- Micheal go to have dinner with Mike and Em. Virginia Benson checks
- into the hotel.
- Carly and Bobbie argue over Michael. Bobbie convinces Carly to touch
- the baby so they go to the Grille. Because of the snow, they must
- walk the last mile. Once there, Jason hands Michael to Carly.
- Overwhelmed, a tearful Carly looks up at Bobbie and reveals she's her
- daughter.
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- Nik makes strides toward recovery.
- Tony undertakes a drastic change.
- Liz finds herself in a dangerous situation after she is rejected by
- Lucky. She asks him to go to the V-day dance, and agrees but wants
- to take Sarah. She makes up a story about going out with a
- basketball player, then goes to the movies alone and then to the park
- to pass time. It is there she is grabbed form behind and dragged
- into the bushes.
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- Ned and Alexis have a very special night Feb 16th.
- Keesha makes an appeal on Justus' behalf on the 17th.
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- In SOW Jackie Zeman says that Bobbie will not believe Carly and calls
- her a bi**h and storms out of the room. She will confront Luke, who
- she never will be able to trust again. She tells Tony who lays into
- Carly. She goes to Stefan to see if he knew the truth since almost
- everyone else but Bobbie did. (she learns Jason and Luke made a
- pact about telling her th truth)
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- hope you enjoy!!
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- From: "Gina Clayton" <GCLAYTON@LES.LES.SC.EDU>
- Subject: GH/PC: sorry guys!
- Date: 04 Feb 1998 16:39:49 EST5EDT
-
- sorry for the double post earlier!! I am an idiot!! We are having
- x-tremely nasty weather in SC and I am very stressed at work/school.
- My apologies to everyone!
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- PS...just to keep it on the GH topics....V and Kevin were on today!!
- Yipeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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- From: Maia <maia@ap.net>
- Subject: GH/PC: GH: pre-emptions
- Date: 05 Feb 1998 14:40:04 -0800
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- OK, if you don't want to be spoiled, don't look down... mild spoilers for
- today's GH.
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- partial scene cut, and I was hoping somebody would be able to type up the
- first part of the conversation that occured between Carly and Bobbie... the
- one right after the commercial break, when Bobbie is talking about the day
- her daughter was born. We lost about a minute of that, and I'm dying of
- curiousity to know what she said.
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- From: "Donald K Gooden" <dkgooden@email.msn.com>
- Subject: GH/PC: GH spoilers part one
- Date: 07 Feb 1998 22:01:35 -0500
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- Spoilers for general Hospital
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- Week of February 9-13, 1998
- courtesy of Soap Opera Weekly, Soap Opera Update, Soap Opera News,
- Soap Opera Magazine and other sources!
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- Plus Articles:
- "Bobbie Lashes Out When She Learns Carly is Her Daughter"
- AND "Elizabeth is Attacked"
- Important Stuff:
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- MONDAY: Bobbie can't believe she's Carly's mother. Mac turns the tables on
- James.
- TUESDAY: Tony confronts Carly. Alexis and Ned make a pact.
- WEDNESDAY: Bobbie confronts Luke. Nikolas takes great strides toward
- recovery.
- THURSDAY: Tony makes a drastic change.
- FRIDAY: Liz finds herself in a dangerous situation.
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- More Stuff:
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- Alexis pumps Ned for information on Katherine.
- Sarah avoids Nikolas.
- Stefan learns of Laura's whereabouts.
- Sarah unwittingly ruins Liz's plans; later, Liz is attacked.
- Jax declines Brenda's invitation.
- Bobbie refuses to believe Carly's claim, and is furious that Carly and Luke
- knew the truth and didn't tell her.
- Robin suggests that Jason come clean with A.J.; she and Jason kiss.
- Tony confronts Carly, and he decides it's time for a change.
- Alan steals more pills
- Edward takes action when the other Quartermaines won't.
- Felicia must decide between two men; she and Mac continue the charade to
- gather information.
- Tess' plan affects other people in Port Charles besides Mac and Felicia.
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- The FOLLOWING week:
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- Ned and Alexis share a special night.
- Sarah shows some spunk.
- Liz confesses everything to Lucky.
- Bobbie gives Luke a warning.
- Keesha makes an appeal on Justus's behalf.
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- Bobbie lashes out when she learns Carly is her daughter
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- Bobbie's already imperfect world is turned even more upside down this
- week when she finds out that Luke knows Carly is her daughter and
- deliberately didn't tell her the truth.
- Initially, Bobbie doesn't believe Carly when she tells her that she is
- the daughter she gave up at birth, "because Luke said my daughter is dead,"
- Jacklyn Zeman (Bobbie) says, in character. "There I am saying, "My version
- is that you came to Port Charles and looked at my life and decided you
- wanted it, and finding out about the daughter I had was a jackpot for you,
- and all you had to do was slip right into those shoes.' There's not even a
- question in my mind that she could be my daughter."
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- The irrefutable proof is the unexpected arrival of Carly's adoptive
- mother, Virginia Benson, who confirms that Carly is, indeed, Bobbie's
- daughter, Caroline. "I look at Virginia and ask, "This is my daughter?' and
- she says yes, and I say [to Carly], "You little bitch,' and I walk out of
- the room," Zeman says.
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- Bobbie can hardly comprehend what is happening. Did Luke know he was
- lying (when he told her her daughter was dead?) Did Stefan know? Did Carly
- know she was Bobbie's daughter when she stole her husband? Did she do it on
- purpose? "There's also that mother thing," Zeman adds. "If Carly did all
- this, what was my part in it? At one point I say to Virginia, "You and I
- aren't responsible' - because Virginia tells Bobbie she thought she raised
- Carly better than this, and she apologizes. I tell her Carly has always done
- whatever she has wanted to do, but I don't know how much I really believe
- that at this moment, because obviously there is something very wrong with
- Carly."
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- Zeman says Bobbie is having a major identity crisis, not only because of
- Carly but also because of Luke. "He has been the one constant in her life,"
- she explains. "She has learned over the years that your husband can leave
- you, your children can die, you can lose your job or your friends, but the
- one thing that would always be there was Luke." In harsh confrontation,
- Bobbie questions if Luke is really the big brother/protector he has always
- claimed to be, and tells him that this deceit has changed things between
- them forever." 'You're going to look at me one day and think Bobbie's OK and
- we are over it, but we will never be OK and I will never be over it,' she
- tells him. I don't say you are out of my life, but I do say that everything
- you always claimed you were, you're not."
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- Adding insult to injury, Bobbie also learns that Luke made a deal with
- Jason not to blow Carly's secret if she returned to town within a month.
- "The whole world knew? That makes Bobbie even madder," Zeman says. "I was
- the only patsy who didn't know! Did it ever occur to anyone to tell me that
- Michael is my grandchild? It's total anger and betrayal for Bobbie."
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- Bobbie isn't the only one who lays into Carly. Tony, who learns that he
- was sleeping with his wife's daughter, confronts her.
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- Lizzie is the victim of a terrible attack
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- Nikolas and Sarah's relationship has veered off course since his injury,
- despite her numerous attempts to spend time with him. So this week when she
- learns that Emily has been helping him with his recovery, Sarah is hurt, and
- she decides to avoid contact with him. She does want to go to the
- Valentine's Day Dance, however; she asks Lucky, and he agrees to be her
- date.
- Sarah doesn't realize that Lizzie really wants to spend time with Lucky,
- too. Audrey encourages Lizzie to arrange to meet him at the dance. When she
- finds out that her sister beat her to the punch, Lizzie decides to skip the
- dance altogether and seeks refuge at the movies. Her evening goes from bad
- to worse, however, because on the way home, Lizzie is attacked.
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- FEBRUARY SWEEPS!!
- The dynamic between Lucky and Elizabeth is altered dramatically when he
- helps her through a personal crisis. Lizzie's situation forces Luke to face
- the darkest truth about his past.
- A surprising ally helps Nikolas with his recovery.
- When Carly has trouble bonding with her son, Bobbie intercedes. This spurs
- Carly finally to reveal that Bobbie is her mother. The revelation causes a
- major fallout for Bobbie, Carly, Luke and Tony.
- Brenda realizes that being with Jax will make her happy, but the choice may
- no longer be hers.
- Alan's addiction forces him to take desperate measures that may be his
- undoing.
- Mac and Felicia turn the tables on Tess to discover her motives. The trail
- leads them to a well-known Port Charles resident.
- Helena begins using Katherine against Stefan in order to gain control of the
- Cassadine empire.
- Jason is forced to confront his life choices when his involvement with Carly
- and the baby and Robin impact his effectiveness in the underworld.
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- Subject: GH/PC: Gh Spoilers part two
- Date: 08 Feb 1998 14:26:23 -0500
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- Spoiler sfor the week of Feb 9
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- For The Week Of February 9 - 13
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- Will Tony refuse Lorraine's advances when she puts the moves on him?
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- News travels to Stefan that Laura has traveled from the mighty Swiss
- Alps to south of the Mason-Dixon line, and is hiding in North Carolina.
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- Ned and Alexis make a clandestine agreement
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- Two enemies form an unlikely alliance.
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- As Lucky helps Elizabeth through a personal crisis, Luke must face the
- darkest truth about his past.''
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- It's medicine won't be so sweet, when James gets a taste of his own.
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- It's two steps forward and one step back for Nikolas.
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- Dr. Jones is slowly turning into Mr. Hyde.
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- Inquiring minds want to know all about Katherine, and Alexis prompts Ned
- to share what he knows.
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- Sarah has a chance of heart and keeps her distance from Nikolas.
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- After Sarah accepts Lucky's invitation to the Valentine's Day dance, a
- heartbroken Liz chooses a late movie ... which ultimately results in an
- attack on her as she heads home.
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- The shoe is on the other foot, when Brenda extends an invitation to Jax
- but he declines.
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- Bobbie blasts her brother and daughter, when she realizes that they both
- withheld the truth about Carly's real identity. Tony also follows suit when
- he tells Carly what he *really* thinks of her, after he learns just who is
- lover was for so long.
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- It's sealed with a kiss, after Robin asks Jason to tell AJ the truth.
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- In order to cope with his increasing addiction, Alan "permanently
- borrows" more pills.
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- It's double-take for Robin and Brenda, after Robin discovers Brenda
- modeling at an auto show, and Brenda finds Ashley at Jax's penthouse.
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- Edward must be a Taurus, because he takes things into his own hands when
- other family members refuse to assist.
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- For the third (or is it fourth) time in 10 years, Felicia must choose
- between two men.
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- Mac and Felicia are not the only Port Charles residents who are affected
- by Tess' plans.
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- You're Going to These Days
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- Mac turns the tables on James.
- Bobbie can't believe she's Carly's mother. Mac turns the tables on James.
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- Alexis and Ned make a secret pact, and seal it with a kiss.
- Tony confronts Carly.
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- Bobbie confronts Luke.
- Nikolas takes great strides toward recovery and rejoins society.
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- Tony comes to blows with Carly and then makes a drastic change.
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- Liz is hurt when she can't find a date for the dance, but later finds
- herself in a dangerous situation.
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- Coming Soon
- Romance is in the air for Ned and Alexis.
- Sarah finally gets gutsy.
- Liz confides in Lucky, and tells him everything.
- Luke is issued a warning by Bobbie.
- An appeal is made on Justus' behalf, by Keesha.
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- From: "Donald K Gooden" <dkgooden@email.msn.com>
- Subject: GH/PC: GH Spoilres part Four
- Date: 08 Feb 1998 14:30:01 -0500
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- Liar Liar pants on Fire
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- In light of the fact that Carly stole Bobbie's husband Tony, and then
- lied to Tony in an effort to keep him, telling him he fathered Michael,
- Bobbie's reaction is about what you'd expect.
- "I get really mad at her," previews Zeman. "I think she's lying. I say,
- 'What is it with you? At the first lovely moment of your life when you are
- holding your baby, all you can think of is hurting me by coming up with the
- fakakta story? You walked into Port Charles, took a look at my life, decided
- you wanted it and stole my husband. And then, finding out about {the
- daughter I gave up} was just another little jackpot for you. Now you're
- going to pretend to be my daughter? What do you want from me?' "
- In the middle of all this, Carly's adoptive mother, Virginia, walks in
- and actually introduces Carly - real name Caroline - to Bobbie. "She says,
- 'Caroline, this is your real mother, Bobbie! ' That's when I know it's
- true.
- "And in all the drama of the moment, Carly is ripping Tony to shreds.
- 'You were such an old fool. It was interesting to be with you for about 5
- minutes. I got over that real fast and then it just became about hurting my
- mother. ' She totally degrades him with all the Quartermaines standing
- around listening. And then to top it all off, Virginia Benson has a stroke
- and dies right there!"
- Yikes.
- Next week, Bobbie will put the pieces together and realize that her
- beloved brother Luke has known all about Carly. "I head off to Wyndemere to
- talk to Stefan," reveals Zeman. "When your brother lies to you and your
- daughter lies to you, who else are you going to turn to for the truth but
- your mortal enemy?"
- Stefan confirms everything, adding that Luke has known all along. "It's
- the ultimate betrayal," shudders Zeman. "How could Luke lie? Put me through
- this pain? We have a wonderful scene where I say, ' you've always said you
- are my protector. What have you been protecting me from? The worst things
- life has to dish out have come from you. You have hurt me more than anyone
- else in my l life.' "
- And after that, nothing will ever be the same for "GH" heroine Bobbie
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- Subject: GH/PC: PC Spoilers part One
- Date: 08 Feb 1998 14:38:10 -0500
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- There are only two parts to these.
- For the week of Feb 9
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- Kevin will not get to the church on time, to stop the marriage of Lucy &
- Rex. Later on, Lucy sabotages her wedding night "frivolities" by consuming a
- liquor she knows she's allergic to.
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- Rex should start singing "Head Games," as Kevin and Jake's convince him
- that Danielle is still alive, and hiding in the catacombs. Rex decides to
- introduce "Danielle" to the concept of lethal injection, totally unaware of
- the fact that "Danielle" is actually Eve in disguise.
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- It's Superman to the rescue, as Frank aides Gail and Serena in the
- aftermath of the accident. Another lucky soul is Karen, who came through the
- car crash with only minor injuries.
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- You're Going to Love These Days
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- Monday
- Lucy schemes to get out of sleeping with Rex.
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- Eve and Kevin work together to help Scott.
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- Joe asks Conklin for a favor.
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- Subject: GH/PC: GH Spoilers part three
- Date: 08 Feb 1998 14:28:23 -0500
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- In -depth look at General Hospital
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- Bobbie Explodes When She Learns The Truth
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- Bobbie will feel a host of emotions including betrayal when it finally sinks
- that Carly is the child she gave up for adoption, and Luke knew about it but
- didn't tell her.
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- After Carly finally admits her real paternity, Bobbie believes that Carly
- has stooped lower than ever to tear at her heart like this. She also
- believes what Luke said: her daughter is dead. Bobbie does not waiver from
- her long-held belief: Carly came to PC and made moves on everything that
- Bobbie had and she herself wanted. In addition, she believes the Carly used
- the knowledge of the child that "died" has a means to an end.
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- However, Bobbie has a complete turnaround after she meets Virginia Benson,
- who came to town to pay Bobbie a visit. When Virginia confirms that the girl
- who calls herself "Carly Roberts" is, in fact, Caroline Benson, she says
- "You little bitch" to Carly and storms out of the room.
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- After this happens, Bobbie's begins to wonder who, besides Carly, knew the
- truth. Did Luke? Did Stefan? Did Carly herself know, when she arrived in
- Port Charles and set her sights on Tony (who was married to Bobbie at the
- time), and were her actions willful? On the flip side, Bobbie begins to
- wonder how of of Carly's actions she herself contributed to. Virginia
- reassures Bobbie that neither is responsible. She tells Bobbie that Carly
- always had a mind of her own and acted on it. While Bobbie tries to sort
- through all the information, she comes to grips with the fact that Carly is
- not "all there."
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- And then there's the issue of Luke, who until now has always been the one
- constant in her life. Whereas a person can lose the spouse, children, job or
- friends ... Luke transcended all of that. But the realization of this
- betrayal will change the fibers of their relationship and Bobbie will see
- look in a completely different light. Zeman best explained it when she
- [Bobbie] said, 'You're going to look at me one day and think Bobbie's OK and
- we are over it, but we will never be OK and I will never be over it,' she
- tells him. I don't say you are out of my life, but I do say that everything
- you always claimed you were, you're not."
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- And if that wasn't enough, Bobbie further learns that Jason also was privy
- to this information, but he also agreed to remain mum about it, provided
- Carly returned within a month. Luke knew? Carly knew? Stefan knew? Jason
- knew? Did Amy also know? And to top things off, she realizes that these
- people never bothered to inform her that Michael was her grandson? Bobbie's
- emotions will give new definition to the terms anger and betrayal.
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- And as Carly will find out soon enough, silence is sometimes golden ...
- after Tony also learns that his lover is the biological daughter of his
- [now] ex-wife.
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- It Goes From Bad To Worse For Lizzie
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- When Sarah comes to the realization that Emily has been helping Nikolas with
- his recovery, she feels it would be best if she keeps her distance. Trying
- to mend her broken heart, she invites Lucky to be her date at the
- Valentine's Day Dance, which he accepts.
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- Despite Audrey's encouragement that Liz hook up with Lucky at the dance,
- after she arrives she sees that Sarah and Lucky are already together. Rather
- than deal with his heartache she decides to leave the dance to go to a
- movie. But what started out as a bad situation deteriorates into some far
- worse, when Liz is attacked on the way home.
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- Hell Hath No Fury
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- Persistence pays off, and when Lorraine makes another attempt at seducing
- Tony is is all to happy to comply. The two embark on a steamy sexual
- relationship, but eventually he dumps her. Lorraine's "take" on the
- situation is zilch. She loses out on everything including a chance to work
- at GH.
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- What Tony will soon discover the Lorraine will remind him a *lot* of the
- Glenn Close character from the movie Fatal Attraction. Any problems he had
- from Carly will pale by comparison to what happens when Lorraine takes the
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- Subject: GH/PC: GH Spoilers part Five
- Date: 08 Feb 1998 14:33:18 -0500
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- Are you all getting tired of these Spoilers?
- well there are a few more
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- I just got the newest Soap Opera Magazine and it talks about the upcoming
- story with Stefan, Kat and his feeling for Laura:
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- Guza explains that Stefan is very much in love with Katherine but haunted by
- Laura. Stefan doesn't even realize the depth of his feelings for Laura. Guza
- says that Stefan is the kind of man who will never be completely satisfied.
- There's a place in him that can't be filled...in 10 years he will maybe
- finds the person that fills it - that person could be Katherine or Laura.
- MBE says that Katherine is under the impression that Stefan is over Laura.
- She says that Katherine will be terribly hurt when she does find out. It
- will color everything they've done together. Guza says that they're almost
- playing a Rebecca kind of story which will build to a May sweeps climax
- that's going to be huge - HUGE!
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- The article also gives quick summaries of these other plots:
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- ''Spencer Secrets Revealed'' -- Bobbie and Luke will be on the outs over the
- Carly secret. And right on the heels of this lie, comes another lie of
- omission. Guza says ''We're gonna take an event from the past and blow it up
- in the present.''
-
- ''Liz Not So Lucky'' -- Liz gets attacked at the park and Lucky is crossing
- the park at the same time. Will he get there in time to save her?
-
- ''Jax Revealed As Murder Target'' -- Mac and Felicia capture James but
- realize that Mac must impersonate Jimmy to find out Tess' plan. At the end
- of the week, Tess has a phone call where it's revealed that Jax is the
- intended murder target. Guza says ''We're going to build to a Hitchcockian
- Wrong Man climax scene, where there's a major event that spirals off into a
- different place.''
-
- Looks like GH is going to be HOT!!!
-
- I only summarized so PLEASE pick up this SOAP OPERA MAGAZINE...
-
- In Guza I Trust
-
- Vernon
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- From: "Donald K Gooden" <dkgooden@email.msn.com>
- Subject: GH/PC: PC Spoilers part Two
- Date: 08 Feb 1998 14:39:26 -0500
-
- This is the last of it.
- Jamila
- S
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- Posted on: Port Charles Board (pc/main/308568-21750)
-
-
-
- Taken from various soap magazines.*Remember no scoop, especially a PC scoop,
- is written in stone! LOL..But you might want to tune to watch....
-
- Kevin arrives to late and is unable to change Lucy's mind. Lucy puts herself
- in a uncomfortable position too avoid consummating her marriage. Kevin
- devises an ''oldie'' but a goodie of plan to beat the Reptile at his own
- game. Frank comes to the rescue while Karen feels badly about ruining Gail
- and Serena's escape. Serena gets a new home, a new attitude and Lucy makes
- her a promise. Matt returns but wont go to the hospital. Joe buys Scott
- sometime. Ellen is bothered by Matt's reaction to a visitor. Lucy and Kevin
- get Scott on their side while Eve and Scott get closer. Operation get Rexy
- is a GO! Rex is disturbed by someone from his past and follows Lucy and
- Kevin to the truth--with a little a ''gift'' in hand. The plan puts Lucy's
- life in danger. Matt swears Ellen to a promise.
-
- Coming the Week of February 16:
-
- Lucy learns how deep her new husband's treachery runs.Katherine gives Kevin
- some useful information. Chris hits a startling-but major dirt on Matt.
- Karen learns about Eve and Scott's ''friendship''
-
- And later this month ...Guess Who's Coming to Dinner er PC? Tony Geary (Luke
- Spencer) stops into PC later on in the month. Luke will be having scenes
- with Lucy.
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- From: "Donald K Gooden" <dkgooden@email.msn.com>
- Subject: GH/PC: Rumors
- Date: 08 Feb 1998 14:42:47 -0500
-
- These are rumors. Some are too unlikely to be true.
- And the others well.... I will let you see for yourselves
- Jamila
-
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-
- ----
-
- Ye Gads ... Are You Kidding Me?
-
- Carly and Jason will get married to keep the baby.
-
- AJ discovers Alan's pill addiction, and urges him to go to rehab.
-
- Tony ends up with a huge phone bill from calling 1-900-sex-numbers.
-
- Genie Francis will surprise all of us and return sometime in March.
-
- V becomes Police Commissioner and puts Taggert and Garcia in their place.
-
- Tony turns out to be the real "daddy," but has gone so insane he'll never
- get custody.
-
- Robin meets Nik, and sparks fly.
-
- Felicia fell for Jimmy, and marries him!
-
- V and Mac fall madly in love.
-
- Tess was hired by the Cassadines.
-
- Bobbie helps Carly fight for custody of Michael.
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- From: Cagey <cagey@geocities.com>
- Subject: Re: GH/PC: Gh Spoilers part two
- Date: 08 Feb 1998 17:05:46 -0800 (PST)
-
- At 02:26 PM 2/8/98 -0500, you wrote:
- >Spoiler sfor the week of Feb 9
- > Jamila
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- >after Robin discovers Brenda modeling at an auto show
-
- Bwahahaha!
-
- <snicker>
-
- I admit I don't pay attention to the Brenda storyline, but
- have they resolved the "was she fired from Jax Cosmetics"
- question? I don't think it was Lucy's intention to replace
- Brenda with Eve, though I suppose it would have had to have
- been done eventually, given the GH/PC situation. Just
- wondering if Brenda ever found out that she wasn't actually
- dumped by Lucy...
-
- --kg
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- From: Cagey <cagey@geocities.com>
- Subject: Re: GH/PC: Rumors
- Date: 08 Feb 1998 17:05:52 -0800 (PST)
-
-
-
- >These are rumors. Some are too unlikely to be true.
- >And the others well.... I will let you see for yourselves
- > Jamila
-
- You know, these are my favorite "spoilers" <g>.
-
- S
- P
- O
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- S
- ?
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- >Genie Francis will surprise all of us and return sometime
- in March.
-
- If only.
-
- >
- >V becomes Police Commissioner and puts Taggert and Garcia
- in their place.
-
- If only!!
-
- >
- >Tony turns out to be the real "daddy," but has gone so
- insane he'll never
- >get custody.
-
- If only!!!!
-
- >
- >Robin meets Nik, and sparks fly.
-
- Gag.
-
- >V and Mac fall madly in love.
-
- If only! Please! Two characters in desperate need of
- storylines...
-
- Speculation is so much more fun than Rex and Lucy, or
- Cassadines bent on taking over the world.
-
- --kg
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- From: "Julie Saker" <jesaker@hotmail.com>
- Subject: GH/PC: Jackie Zeman Chat Transcript (SPOILER included)
- Date: 10 Feb 1998 08:28:47 PST
-
- came across this on pc online and thought i'd share.
- slight, fairly well-circulated spoiler included...
-
- julie
-
- I just chatted with Jackie Zeman (Bobbie) at SoapCity and this is what
- she had to say.
-
- Jackie Zeman Chat Excerpts:
-
- -Of all the leading men, who was your favorite and which one do you miss
- now? Who would you like to see come back of them
-
- JZ: Laughs.... Normally my favorite leading man is the one I'm working
- with currently.... Of course, I don't have one right now!
-
- I've been fortunate to have the best.... both on personal and
- professional levels, and I would be delighted to have any one of them
- come back!
-
- I keep in touch with Rick Springfield, who livees in Malibu... we
- cohosted an event for Cystic Fibrosis. We had a 20th Anniversary party,
- and David Groh and Rick both came! Kin Shriner also came..... we go
- back 20 years as buds on the show! Sam Behrens (who's married to
- Shari Belafonte) is also a good friend.... they live close to us here in
- Malibu!
-
- -What do you consider your finest work on GH?
-
- JZ: Tough question.... Some of the most challenging materials I've ever
- been given was the BJ storyline (the emotional committment takes you
- into terrifying territory).....
-
- .... the Carly/Bobbie storyline is interesting, because of my
- relationship with my real daughters (pre-teens both!) Not to say my life
- mirrors the one on GH, but there are similarities to my real life.
-
- -Jackie, I wanted to ask you, Will Bobbie ever forgive Carly for her
- deception?
-
- JZ: If you had asked me that question before I became a real mom, I
- would have said no, but now that I'm a real-life mom, I look at the
- situation, and I say, of course there's a future, because that's life!
-
- The interesting thing for the audience will be how we get to that
- point....
-
- -What kind of relationship do you and Sarah Brown have off camera?
-
- JZ: I'm so pleased to work with her, that it's spilled over into an
- admiration from me for her. She's honost, straight forward, she always
- knows the scenes, and gives the best performance.... that's the best
- compliment you can give an actress, because she doesn't come off as a
- young woman, she is a mature adult. She is really fabulous in this part.
-
- -When Bob Guza first created the Bobbie/Carly storyline, did you ever
- think it would be the enormous story it turned out to be, and that it
- would touch so many characters?
-
- JZ: I had no idea... I'm a huge Bob Guza fan, and he's so good at taking
- a reality-based storyline and making it very real on a soap opera.... He
- makes me feel that it all meshes together, and balances the reality with
- the craziness that is so much a part of GH.
-
- -What do you think of baby Michael?
-
- JZ: They are twins, you know! They are beautiful. We started with these
- two, who were premies, a few days before the holidays. I feel like I've
- bonded with them. I shouldn't speak for Steve Burton, but I think he
- feels the same way; I love playing a grandmother, even though I didn't
- think it would be happening so soon!
-
- This has been a few years in the making, an I'm gratefull that the
- writers did this in a way that Carly has a whole life of her own, and
- her own history. It has a lot more meaning this way! I can't go anywhere
- in public without someone asking me ''when is Carly going to tell
- you?!'' We're in the midst of ratings sweeps right now, so the timing on
- this revelation is great!
-
- -We all know that the one constant in Bobbie's life was the trust she
- and Luke had. Now that Luke has broken the trust, what are the chances
- of them mending fences in the near future?
-
- JZ: I believe that those fences will get mended, but the breakdown and
- betrayal that Bobbie is feeling right now has put her in a crossroads,
- an identity crisis, where she's realizing that you can only depend on
- yourself, and you have to take responsibility for all the good and bad
- in your life and that pointing a finger is not the way to go. There's an
- upcoming confrontation between Bobbie and Luke that's such an identity
- crisis for her to realize.
-
- The audience will like this, and it was so well written. In my
- relationship with Luke, he's always been the ''big brother'', and now
- there's a role reversal with the Carly/Bobbie thing where Bobbie is now
- the older personality!
-
- -Jackie, I was at Super Soap Weekend '97, and I loved seeing you there!
- Did you have as much fun as I did?
-
- JZ: That was a fun weekend, wasn't it?! What a great opportunity - I
- hope I'm invited back again next year!
-
- -When you're on the set are there any times when you can't stop
- laughing?
-
- JZ: Occassionally, but not often, because we 80-90 pages of dialogue a
- day, which is a lot of ground to cover; no time to fool around!
-
- Brad Maule is so humorless, serious on the show, but he's the most
- underrated actor - in real life, he's a funny guy! They should see in
- between takes....
-
- -What's your favorite thing you've done for a Nurse's Ball?
-
- JZ: The dance that Luke and Bobbie did - last year, the disco dance to
- Donna Summer's ''Last Dance''! We had so much fun! The flashbacks, the
- rehersals; we were a couple of kids thrown back into our youth! Maybe
- we'll get to do a 30's or 50's thing next time....Tony has a dance
- background, and he's such a good dancer!
-
- -Do you see a big rivalry in store, between Monica and Bobbie?
-
- JZ: Possibly, because where that grandchild is concerned, everyone'll
- want that piece! It'll be interesting to see who gets his allegiance
- once he grows up. I don't think the Quartermaines are good at sharing,
- so there will be a bit of push-pull there.... I'm sure Bob Guza
- (headwriter) has some things up his sleeve..... I asked him how far
- ahead he was writing, but he's not telling!
-
- -Jackie, What is your favorite memory working on General Hospital?
-
- JZ: One: Emotionally memorable scenes have been with my family on the
- show, because they're the ones I'm most bonded to in real life - Lucas,
- BJ (Brighton Hereford).... Brighton was BJ from 6 months old, she was
- the first child with pictures on my refrigerator.... I still
- have it!
-
- -Jackie, the clothes on GH are fabulous. Who are the designers and do
- you have a hand in choosing the wardrobe for Bobbie?
-
- JZ: Well, Bob Miller and Steve Howard are the designers team. Most of
- the things you see (esp. coutiuer) are designed by them. They have
- Emmies for their design.
-
- I do have a little say in the look, more than the actual clothes... I
- pick things from magazines, and they'll buy things from magazines, and
- they'll buy things from design warehouses (esp. from NY).
-
- I hope they found me a gown for the Soap Opera Digest Awards... :)
- He has such great taste.
-
- - Do you have a dance background too?
-
- JZ: Yes, I was a professional dancer, and started when I was 5 in New
- Jersey. I took Ballet, Tap, Jazz, etc. and now my own daughters are
- doing dance - I'm so proud of them!
-
- Dance background teaches you discipline, focus, and that if you pay your
- dues, and get good , it'll pay off. You become a much more hard-working
- person.... that's what it gave me.
-
- -Will Tony and Bobbie ever get back together? I know I am not in the
- majority, but I liked them together, and would like to see them back
- together.
-
- JZ: Perhaps.... I think there's so much water under the bridge that to
- do that now would be untrue to life. She's really over Tony right now,
- she needs to heal from Luke's betrayal, the disfunctional relationship
- with Cassadine. She needs to find herself, heal herself, and the next
- relationship should be a healthy one with a terrific
- guy... don't know who that'll be.....
-
- Spiritually women want to see Bobbie finally get with the right guy....
-
- -Who would you like to see Bobbie paired with romantically?
-
- JZ: It may be someone on the show, but no one yet that I've got my
- sights on... It's always best if you develop from the stories/characters
- already there, but the Bobbie/Tony thing won't happen. I hope it'll be
- someone new....Wendy Riche will find someone fabulous!
-
- -Was General Hospital your first television roll?
-
- JZ: No.... my longest though, 21 years! My first job on tv was a
- commercial for Jergen's soap - selling soap in a bathtub in a bank vault
- for 30 sec.! My next was on ''Edge of Night'' with Dixie Carter and
- Tony Craig.... My first contract role was on ''One Life to Live'', with
- Jameson Parker - 22 or 23 years ago, for 2 years.
-
- Then GH came along, and that was great, because I didn't audition or
- screentest, and they offered the Bobbie role to me. It was such a boost
- to my confidence and self-esteem that I JUMPED at it! and 21 years
- later....
-
- -Jackie, Happy 20th Anniversary, how much longer do you plan to stick
- around GH? I hope a long tiome! :)
-
- JZ: Thank you very much! I do plan to stick around at least for the next
- few years, and I love my work, my job and my tv extended family.... this
- was my dream to do work like this. The audience is so
- supportive, and the writers have come up with great material for me to
- do (esp. when I've been there so long).
-
- -Do you or your family watch GH when it is on tv?
-
- JZ: Not everyday, but occassionally. Lacey was 3 when we were in the
- bathroom one day, and she looked at me and said ''You're Bobbie! You
- were crying, and Grammie said you were pretending.''
-
- Both the girls are familiar with the set, and when they're out of
- school, they're there. They know everyone by the children of the other
- actors! My kids are on the Christmas episodes every year....
-
- -What's the most tear-jearking scene you've ever done?
-
- JZ: Probably when BJ died... people tell me about their reactions from
- people who experienced it in real life.
-
- -What is your relationship with Tony Geary like off camera? Do you get
- along well?
-
- JZ: Always! And he's so cool, and he's great with kids (esp. for a
- single guy). He loves musicals, and my girls like to see videos with
- him. He's so generous and thoughtful, and I've transferred his being my
- tv big brother to being a part of my real family.
-
- -Have you or would you ever want to direct an episode?
-
- JZ: Well, I don't think so... never had the desire to direct, but
- producing is interesting to me... The acting is easy for me, so I enjoy
- it because it doesn't feel like work anymore. Producing would bring
- along new territory, and that would be interesting to try in the future,
- but not right now... I'm comfortable right now.
-
- -Will Bobbie help Carly through the death of her mother Virginia?
-
- JZ: I don't think so... Carly lied about the situation with her,
- pretending that Virginia was dead, even her own name (Caroline)....
- Bobbie is so angry and turned off to her that she can't get passed that
- right now, and it'll take time to lose the resentment towards her.
- That's sad, but the reality of the moment....
-
- -Are you glad the secret is finally out?
-
- JZ: Yes! I've been wanting these scenes for so long, and I was curious
- as to how they were going to structure this, and when I got the script,
- I was in heaven!
-
- -Hi... Do you know anything about the GH primetime special?
-
- JZ: Yes! Mostly because we're shooting a hunk of it tomorrow.... It's a
- history of GH from the WHOLE 35 years it's been on, all the characters,
- all the hairstyles :), and Kin Shriner and I are doing the 70's - 80's
- section of the program.
-
- I think it's on April 2nd (?) at 10 pm on ABC - It'll be a very good
- show.... especially for anyone who has a history with the show!
-
- -What is Stephen Nichols like to work with? Will Stefan and Bobbie ever
- get back together?
-
- JZ: Well Stephen is very professional, prepared actor. I didn't watch
- him when he was Patch on ''Days,'' and I'm told they're very different,
- but he is absolutely wonderful here.
-
- I feel the relationship between Bobbie and him had potential for a real
- spark, but the overzealousness to get the Stefan-Catherine thing left
- the Bobbie-Stefan thing kinda hanging.... part of that was just bad
- timing: Bob Guza had left, and we had different writers, and now Bob's
- back, but in the meantime, the storylines were written.
-
- Personnally I'm a little sad, and would've loved to see it bloom.
-
- -Ms. Zeman, I apologize for joining the chat late. I just wanted to let
- you know how much I have enjoyed your portrayal of Bobbie.... from the
- time you first joined the show. Do you find it difficult to balance your
- work and your family life? You seem to manage it all so well!
-
- JZ: What a lovely thing to say! Thanks for the compliment! Some days I
- do it well, and other days it's not so easy.... My kids are already
- thinking about what they want to do with their lives and how to go about
- getting there. There are days when, like all working mothers, I get
- pangs of guilt, but I think our family has found a happy medium.
- My daughter Cassidy (in 2nd grade) gets paid $2 a script to read lines
- with me at night!!!
-
- -If you could make up your storyline for the next 6 months, what would
- it be?
-
- JZ: OOOOHhhh.... Probably pretty close to where it is right now... I'd
- like to see her meet somebody, and someone get interested on her, and
- she not be anxious to jump right in. I want the audience to see that
- just because you're over 40 doesn't mean you have to be single.
-
- I want to see what happens with Carly, and how we get through that...
- and what goes on with Lucas, because he's not in the storyline enough.
-
- Soaps do have a tendancy (and GH like all others) to gove the romance
- over to the younger characters, and I believe that when you hit 40, you
- get married, you wear neglige's and get sexy in bed, and we should be
- able to see that!
-
- -Do you ever visit General Hospital Web sites?
-
- JZ: I don't have a computer at GH, and at home, my husband and kids are
- always on it.... I have to get on it more!
-
- -Ms Zeman, you are obviously aware of the legions of fans you have on
- the internet. Do you ever read any of the newsgroups to see what we are
- saying about GH?
-
- JZ: Once, someone sent me a transcript, but I can only see them now if
- someone prints them for me! I find it fascinating because this is all so
- new, but now I'm beginning to realize that you have to be hip to this!
-
- -Were you happy with the show today?
-
- JZ: I haven't seen that show, but earlier I was at Planet Hollywood with
- Sarah Brown (Carly), and saw a little clip on this HUGE screen! We did
- tape it though, so I'll see it tonite. I don't usually watch, though,
- because the last thing I wanna do after a long day of shooting it's the
- last thing I want to see.
-
- JZ: Well, I'd like to thank everyone for showing up to this, this has
- been so fun... to talk about the present, and relive the past. As far as
- the future, the next few weeks are going to be SPECTACULAR, you won't
- want to miss it.... For me, thank you personally for all your support,
- and I'm aware that all this wouldn't be happening for
- me without the audience, so thank you so much! Goodbye!
-
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-
- From: "Gina Clayton" <GCLAYTON@LES.LES.SC.EDU>
- Subject: GH/PC: Bobbie/Stefan
- Date: 11 Feb 1998 13:41:48 EST5EDT
-
- OK...what did everyone think about the confrontation between Bobbie
- and Stefan? I thought it was great to see Stefan oozing malice. He
- plays a great complex villian. I liked it when he admitted he
- didn't tell her when they were married because it would have hurt her
- and then after the divorce it was a weapon he didn't need. That
- seemed so true of character...it is over no second chance.(aka...Alexis?)
- I thought Carly/Caroline would be the one to spill the beans about
- Luke, but to have STEFAN do it is even worse. Of course, he has no
- reason to lie to Bobbie. One thing that bothered me was that he said
- the only reason he was graciously granting Bobbie the info. that her
- brother was lying to her was because she was nice to Nik. I think it
- was more than a "duty" or "repayment". Any thoughts on this??
- JZ Rocks...she has been great lately.
- On another note...I usually love Robin, but she is starting to bother
- me with her pleas for Jason to do the "right" thing. I know it is
- wrong to keep Michael from AJ and all, but that is ALL she talks
- about. I would like for her to get a real storyline....after all she
- could have been a bigger part in this Mac/Jimmy thing. JMHO..she is
- a much better actress than the material she has been given lately. I
- hope Guza livens things up soon...I have faith he will.
-
- have a great day everyone!!
- gina
-
- -
-
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-
- From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
- Subject: Re: GH/PC: Bobbie/Stefan
- Date: 12 Feb 1998 09:11:57 -0800
-
- At 01:41 PM 2/11/98 EST5EDT, Gina Clayton wrote:
- >OK...what did everyone think about the confrontation between Bobbie
- >and Stefan? I thought it was great to see Stefan oozing malice. He
- >plays a great complex villian.
-
- Well, now that I am FINALLY caught up and not swamped with either work or
- homework, I can comment.
-
- I LOVED this scene. It was incredibley well done. It was also inevitable.
- Guza has said from the beginning that he thought the Bobbie/Stefan dynamic
- was fabulous and that he could easily see it playing out for YEARS (and
- that's part of why he doesn't like the Kat/Bat thing), and so it was just a
- matter of time before he did SOMETHING to give them a scene together --
- even if it is as enemies again.
-
- >I thought Carly/Caroline would be the one to spill the beans about
- >Luke, but to have STEFAN do it is even worse.
-
- But it made for fabulous drama. :-)
-
- >Of course, he has no
- >reason to lie to Bobbie. One thing that bothered me was that he said
- >the only reason he was graciously granting Bobbie the info. that her
- >brother was lying to her was because she was nice to Nik. I think it
- >was more than a "duty" or "repayment". Any thoughts on this??
-
- I thought that was kind of a stupid thing to say. I mean, it was a very
- tactical move for him to have witheld that info before, and now that she
- knows it, there is no point in his trying to deny that he knew it. And the
- entire notion that he doesn't care if Bobbie and Luke are at each other's
- throats is ABSURD. That kind of thing is a huge emotional drain -- not to
- mention distraction. Of course Stefan would relish Luke being preoccupied
- with his sister (again), and not paying as close attention to other matters
- as he should.
-
- >JZ Rocks...she has been great lately.
-
- I *totally* agree. She goes through waves of really irritating me, but
- lately she's been fabulous.
-
- And Brad Maule is doing a fabulous job of making Tony pathetic and
- contemptable.
-
- >On another note...I usually love Robin, but she is starting to bother
- >me with her pleas for Jason to do the "right" thing. I know it is
- >wrong to keep Michael from AJ and all, but that is ALL she talks
- >about.
-
- I agree. Kimberly is too good to do that one note bit; and Robin has too
- much history to squander her that way, too.
-
- I was amused at that little "test" yesterday, though. Why don't TPTB just
- put a sign up over Kimberly and Christopher Tyler: "Potential Love Interest
- Test Screening." <snort>
-
- >I would like for her to get a real storyline....after all she
- >could have been a bigger part in this Mac/Jimmy thing.
-
- Speaking of which -- did anyone else notice that Mac didn't even bat an eye
- at Robin being back in town (thoguh at least he had a semi-genuine reaction
- to Robin and Jason possibly getting back together)? Mac was already locked
- away in the cabin when Robin showed up. The last he heard she was in Paris
- and now, not only is she back, but she's back to stay and he says NOTHING?
-
- I did enjoy Felicia decking him, though. :-)
-
- More than anything else, though, I must say that last year, when Sarah
- Brown won her Emmy I couldn't understand why. Over the past few days, the
- only thing I can think about is that I can't imagine her *not* winning
- again. She has been so incredible -- especially yesterday when Virginia
- died. The way she was lashing out at everyone was fabulous.
-
- Of course, not QUITE as fabulous as THE confrontation that we've been
- waiting for for over a year: Luke and Bobbie.
-
- Oh boy, they were incredible. Totally awesome. The bit about Luke playing
- cards with the johns while Bobbie was hooking was great. TG and JZ were
- both awesome.
-
- And then later when Luke was with Carly -- they were both great again. I
- *love* them together (and the bit about her being a self-professed Spencer
- meaning that she'd never get him off her back was rather classic, too). I
- am really glad, though, that Luke didn't cut her too much slack, though.
- She may be sympathetic at the moment, but Virginia was right: just because
- she tells the truth one night doesn't undo all the damage she's done.
-
- But I did almost applaud Virginia's comment in the Grille about, based on
- what everyone else has said about Tony, she doesn't like him, either. <g>
-
- And HE was asking to be smacked -- how in the hell does that deluded jerk
- think that it was *Carly's* fault that he left his wife and son? I don't
- THINK so. He is a big boy and if he can't control himself then that is not
- HER fault.
-
- I am really sorry they killed off Virginia, though. I don't think that,
- tactically speaking, it was really the best time to do that. But now that
- it's done, I hope Guza makes the most of it.
-
- Taiyin
- "Well, don't tell me that you're trying to perhaps let
- me know that you, what -- find me attractive?"
- --"Magnetic. Like those bug zappers. You know
- it's certain death, but you dive in anyway."
- -- Lucy and Kevin
-
-
-
- -
-
-
-
- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- From: Cagey <cagey@geocities.com>
- Subject: Re: GH/PC: Bobbie/Stefan
- Date: 12 Feb 1998 14:40:13 -0500
-
- At 09:11 AM 2/12/98 -0800, Taiyin wrote:
-
- >I *totally* agree. She goes through waves of really irritating me, but
- >lately she's been fabulous.
- >And Brad Maule is doing a fabulous job of making Tony pathetic and
- >contemptable.
-
- and
-
- >Over the past few days, the only thing I can think about is that I can't
- >imagine her *not* winning again. She has been so incredible --
-
- I admit, my expectations for Monday were too high. I was disappointed by
- JZ; I wanted far more fireworks than I got, though Tony's almost instant
- understanding that *this* was the truth was great. And, of course, I
- *love* the fact that in order to keep her "I never cared for Tony" charade
- going, Carly can't even defend herself against the charge that she was
- deliberately trying to hurt Bobbie. A wonderful piece of irony, that.
-
- But still, I was disappointed. Until Tuesday and Wednesday. Sarah Brown
- and Brad just kicked...er, butt in the last scenes on Tuesday. The
- absolute scathing bitterness that they felt for one another was phenomenal.
- And then...
-
- >Of course, not QUITE as fabulous as THE confrontation that we've been
- >waiting for for over a year: Luke and Bobbie.
-
- Oh yes. I was in heaven. And Luke and Carly at the hospital too--very
- well done. Even given all of Luke's nasty comments about Caroline to
- Bobbie in the earlier scene, he all but admits everytime he talks to her
- that she's Spencer, and that counts for something with him. I love these
- three. I can't wait until Luke finds out Jason isn't Michael's father....
-
- Woo hoo!
-
- --kg
-
-
- -
-
-
-
- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
- Subject: Re: GH/PC: Bobbie/Stefan
- Date: 12 Feb 1998 11:46:29 -0800
-
- At 02:40 PM 2/12/98 -0500, Cagey wrote:
- >But still, I was disappointed. Until Tuesday and Wednesday. Sarah Brown
- >and Brad just kicked...er, butt in the last scenes on Tuesday. The
- >absolute scathing bitterness that they felt for one another was phenomenal.
-
- It was almost frightening, actually. And the way they ripped into each
- other after Virginia died at the hospital yesterday. <shudder>
-
- I do like them together a hundred times more now than I did when they were
- all sappy sweet, though. By boy, they sure don't pull any punches, do
- they? Wow.
-
- >Oh yes. I was in heaven. And Luke and Carly at the hospital too--very
- >well done. Even given all of Luke's nasty comments about Caroline to
- >Bobbie in the earlier scene, he all but admits everytime he talks to her
- >that she's Spencer, and that counts for something with him. I love these
- >three.
-
- So do I. And I love that it *does* matter to Luke. He could have very
- easily just walked away from her, once and for all, and let her go do her
- own thing now that the truth is out and he doesn't have the threat of
- hurting Bobbie hanging over him anymore. The fact that he points out to
- her AGAIN that she is a Spencer, period, is really cool.
-
- I can't wait to see today when he tells Lucky.
-
- >I can't wait until Luke finds out Jason isn't Michael's father....
-
- That one will prove fun, too. Let's just hope they don't leave us hanging
- for quite as long as they did with Carly's last big revelation. Sheesh. I
- don't think my heart can take another two years of torture when it comes to
- this girl.
-
- And if ANYONE can appreciate defending that kid from life as a
- Quartermaine, Luke can. ;-)
-
- Taiyin
- "For the best motion and comotion with the motion in the room ,
- naturally the best prize here is some of Mexico's finest mescal. I would
- give myself the prize, of course, but that wouldn't be fair. I would give
- it to my son -- he was making some pretty cool moves over there, but my
- wife would kill him if he ate the worm." -- Luke
-
- -
-
-
-
- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- From: Jill Kirby <sigmund@xmission.com>
- Subject: Re: GH/PC: Bobbie/Stefan
- Date: 12 Feb 1998 11:54:31 -0800
-
- >Oh yes. I was in heaven. And Luke and Carly at the hospital too--very
- > >well done. Even given all of Luke's nasty comments about Caroline to
- > >Bobbie in the earlier scene, he all but admits everytime he talks to her
- > >that she's Spencer, and that counts for something with him. I love these
- > >three.
-
- I do, too, and I still can't stand Carly-- but when she's with Luke, I
- watch. When he asked her yesterday if she needed any help with the
- arrangements-- my heart just skipped a beat. I was disappointed that
- Carly responded with her patented "I can take care of it," without
- realizing what Luke was offering, in his own way. HE was offering the
- support you give a member of your family. :)
-
- Jill
-
-
-
-
-
- -
-
-
-
- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- From: Cagey <cagey@geocities.com>
- Subject: Re: GH/PC: Bobbie/Stefan
- Date: 12 Feb 1998 15:06:45 -0500
-
- At 11:54 AM 2/12/98 -0800, Jill Kirby wrote:
-
- >HE was offering the support you give a member of your family.
-
- True, but you can't really blame her for shrugging it off. She just
- doesn't "get" family in that way, and she certainly has little cause to
- expect anything from Luke except death threats <g>.
-
- --kg
-
- -
-
-
-
- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
- Subject: Re: GH/PC: Bobbie/Stefan
- Date: 12 Feb 1998 12:01:01 -0800
-
- At 11:54 AM 2/12/98 -0800, Jill Kirby wrote:
- >arrangements-- my heart just skipped a beat. I was disappointed that
- >Carly responded with her patented "I can take care of it," without
- >realizing what Luke was offering, in his own way. HE was offering the
- >support you give a member of your family. :)
-
- True. But if she had accepted his h*lp at this point, it would have been a
- little suspicious.
-
- After all, Luke hasn't exactly given her many reasons to trust him. She
- was seriously surprised when he said that she had done the right thing. I
- think part of her was still honestly afraid that he would carry out his
- original threat to kill her.
-
- Eventually they'll work it out, and then it'll be cool. But for now, I
- actually really like their mututal distrust and loathing -- especially when
- tempered with a bit of reluctant sentimentality.
-
- Taiyin
- "Hey, Mr. Spencer, this is a great party."
- -- "Emily, until the day I wander around town with
- my underwear on the outside of my clothes, dribble
- running down my chin, please don't call me Mr. Spencer."
-
-
- -
-
-
-
- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- From: Jill Kirby <sigmund@xmission.com>
- Subject: Re: GH/PC: Bobbie/Stefan
- Date: 12 Feb 1998 12:56:00 -0800
-
- Re: Taiyin's comment that if Carly had accepted Luke's help, that would
- have been weird/suspicious:
-
- Agreed. I guess what I was looking for was more of an acknowledgement,
- than anything, from Carly regarding what Luke was saying. More
- realization that he was offering to help, as a member of her family. I
- certainly wouldn't expect her to <take> the help. :) She's too
- stubborn-- certainly a Spencer trait...
-
- Jill
-
-
-
-
-
- -
-
-
-
- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
- Subject: GH/PC: Spencers
- Date: 12 Feb 1998 13:04:23 -0800
-
- At 12:56 PM 2/12/98 -0800, Jill Kirby wrote:
- >Agreed. I guess what I was looking for was more of an acknowledgement,
- >than anything, from Carly regarding what Luke was saying. More
- >realization that he was offering to help, as a member of her family. I
- >certainly wouldn't expect her to <take> the help. :) She's too
- >stubborn-- certainly a Spencer trait...
-
- And hardly her only one, either.
-
- That's part of what I keep waiting for, here: no one has pointed out that,
- frankly, Carly's behavior has had a very definite "Spencer" quality to it.
-
- I think they are conveniently forgetting that Bobbie was not always a
- paragon of virtue. Her schemeing manipulations may not have been as
- dramatic as Carly's, but her means weren't much different. And her motives
- were rarely as understandable.
-
- And we don't even need to START in on Luke.
-
- But I guess that doesn't really fit in with the current image of Bobbie.
-
- Too bad. It would certainly make things interesting.
-
- Taiyin
- DARA: "Luke thinks I like him." JUSTUS: "He assumes
- all the women do." DARA: "If he weren't already taken, I
- think I might think about it." JUSTUS: "I think someone
- put something in your drink. Bartender!" -- General Hospital
-
-
- -
-
-
-
- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
- Subject: GH/PC: Tony and Luke
- Date: 13 Feb 1998 09:31:06 -0800
-
- Whoa. Tony just keeps slipping farther and farther into the abyss, doesn't
- he?
-
- I certainly hope that Brad Maule was in the mood for a haircut. ;-)
-
- I also really enjoyed the conversation between Luke and Lucky. I'm glad
- that Lucky was *not* ok with Luke keeping that secret.
-
- Lucky and Sarah, though, were beyond icky. Yucky, even. Seriously icky
- and majorly yucky. Lucky and Yucky. Yuck.
-
- But, the best part of all of that was Tony and Luke. And their matching
- haircuts. ;-)
-
- And Tony is totally cracked -- he honestly thinks that he would have done
- something different if he had known? Please, get real. And, why should it
- matter? He was screwing around on his wife and yet if he knew his mistress
- was his step-daughter he would have miraculously grown a conscience and put
- a stop to the whole thing? Gimme a break.
-
- I am kind of enjoying the deconstruction of Tony, though. He's more
- interesting this way than he has been since he was listening to Maxie's
- heart pound in BJ's chest.
-
- He was certainly asking to get klobbered yesterday, though.
-
- And he's doubly cracked if he thinks he can take Luke.
-
- Taiyin
- "Been held-up at gun point by your mother lately?" -- AJ to Ned
-
- -
-
-
-
- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- From: "Donald K Gooden" <dkgooden@email.msn.com>
- Subject: GH/PC: GH: spoilers part one
- Date: 14 Feb 1998 12:48:50 -0500
-
- Spoilers for the week of Feb 16
- Jamila
- S
- P
- O
- I
- L
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- R
-
- S
- P
- A
- C
- E
- >
-
- >
- >
- >
- >
-
-
-
- For The Week Of February 16 - 20
-
- Despite Lucky's best efforts, Liz is afraid to tell him all the details
- about the attack.
- Helena advises Nikolas not to trust either Luke or Stefan where Laura
- is concerned. And despite Stefan's warnings that Helena should not be taken
- seriously, it is Stefan's own actions that convince Nikolas that it is
- Helena who is telling the truth.
- Carly is warned to be careful of Edward ... by Jason.
- Amy discovers something which could foil Alan's chance to stay out of
- trouble.
- With some encouragement from Helena, Alexis maneuvers Katherine into
- making a purchase.
- Ned and Alexis heightened their relationship.
- Robin is getting very uncomfortable with the closeness developing
- between Jason, baby Michael and Carly.
- Mac almost loses his cool with Robin.
- The Quartermaines forbid Emily to see Nikolas, after Sarah convinces
- them that she is "worried" about her best friend spending so much time on
- the island.
- As a reward for doing something nice, Keesha rewards AJ.
- Carly and her son help Jason out of a difficult situation, while Robin
- frets over Jason's growing attachment to Michael and Carly.
- Two men vie for the attention of Dara, in the elevator.
- Felicia teaches Mac how to kiss like James.
-
-
-
-
- ----
-
- You're Going to Love These Days
-
- Monday
- After sharing a very special night, Ned & Alexis consummate their
- relationship.
- Helena warns Nikolas about Stefan.
- The aftermath of Liz's attack will affect several people.
-
- Tuesday
- An appeal is made on Justus' behalf, by Keesha.
-
- Wednesday
- Sarah finally gets gutsy.
- Alan is caught popping pills, by Amy.
- Mac gets a lesson in kissing from Felicia.
-
- Thursday
- Liz confides in Lucky, and tells him everything.
-
- Friday
- Luke is issued a warning by Bobbie.
-
-
- Coming Soon
- Carly learns that Robin knows the truth about her son.
- Tess' plan is uncovered by Mac.
- A major change occurs with Jason.
-
-
-
-
-
-
- -
-
-
-
- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- From: "Donald K Gooden" <dkgooden@email.msn.com>
- Subject: GH/PC: GH: Spoilers Part two
- Date: 14 Feb 1998 12:50:38 -0500
-
- More spoilers
- Jamila
- S
- P
- O
- I
- L
- E
- R
-
- S
- P
- A
- C
- E
- >
- >
- >
- >
-
-
-
- ----
-
- Love Is In The Air
-
- Helena continues to use Alexis to try to bring down Stefan and regain
- control of the Cassadine dynasty. After planting seeds in Stefan's mind so
- he will think about Laura, Helena demands that Alexis get Katherine to buy a
- stone bench for Wyndemere. Helena is pleased with Alexis' work, and says
- that more assignments await her.
-
- Fortunately for Alexis, Ned manages to get her mind off Helena when he comes
- to her hotel room to celebrate Valentine's Day. Ned's gift is a sound
- machine that he says will "take" her anywhere she wants to go. Alexis
- chooses wherever there is no telephone, fax or family. After sampling the
- machine's offerings, Alexis tells Ned that they are in a tropical rain
- forest. They kiss passionately, and make love for the first time.
-
-
- ----
-
- Could There Be Someone New For Robin
-
- When a jealous Sarah snidely tells the Quartermaines how much time Emily is
- spending with Nikolas, helping him learn to talk again, the Q's put their
- foot down. All seems to be going Sarah's way - until Emily seeks advice from
- Robin.
-
- "The Quartermaines tell Emily she can't go to see Nikolas anymore, and Emily
- is very upset," explains Kimberly McCullough (Robin). "While trying to
- comfort her, Robin says, "Do you think Nikolas will work with me?" Emily
- says she doesn't know, but she can try."
-
- Although Robin has only met Nikolas once, she goes to Wyndemere to ask him
- if he'll work with her instead of with Emily. While Robin is explaining to
- Katherine why she's come, Stefan overhears and tells Robin that Nikolas is
- not in need of any outside assistance. Never one to be intimated, Robin
- tells Stefan that she'll wait for Nikolas to return from his horseback
- riding to ask him herself. Upon Nikolas' return, Stefan is surprised to see
- the young man's response to Robin. And while Nikolas is reluctant at first,
- he agrees to give it a shot.
-
- Meanwhile, Robin is dealing with her unresolved feelings for Jason.
- Witnessing Jason's growing attachment to Michael, she worries how he will
- feel ultimately if he must give up the baby. Robin is also uncomfortable
- with Carly and Jason's growing intimacy as they share the responsibility of
- a child.
-
- "It concerns Robin that Jason is living with a woman who is basically a
- liar," McCullough adds. "It's a very strange situation when your
- ex-boyfriend is living with someone everyone thinks he cheated on you for."
-
-
-
-
-
-
- -
-
-
-
- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- From: Cagey <cagey@geocities.com>
- Subject: Re: GH/PC: GH: spoilers part one
- Date: 14 Feb 1998 20:52:43 -0800 (PST)
-
- At 12:48 PM 2/14/98 -0500, you wrote:
- >Spoilers for the week of Feb 16
- > Jamila
- >S
- >P
- >O
- >I
- >L
- >E
- >R
- >
- >S
- >P
- >A
- >C
- >E
- >>
- >
- >>
-
- > The Quartermaines forbid Emily to see Nikolas, after
- Sarah convinces
- >them that she is "worried" about her best friend spending
- so much time on
- >the island.
-
- Wow, Sarah has a sneaky backbone after all. I was
- beginning to think she wasn't a real Webber.
-
- >Carly learns that Robin knows the truth about her son.
-
- Hmmmm. I thought they'd pretty much resolved that at the
- christening party. Guess not.
-
- Thanks, Jamila!
-
- --kg
-
- -
-
-
-
- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- From: "Donald K Gooden" <dkgooden@email.msn.com>
- Subject: GH/PC: PC: spoilers
- Date: 14 Feb 1998 12:59:16 -0500
-
- Spoilers for the week of Feb 16
- Jamila
- S
- P
- O
- I
- L
- E
- R
-
- S
- P
- A
- C
- E
- >
- >
- >
- >
- >
-
-
-
-
- ----
-
- For The Week Of February 16 - 20
-
- Rex confronts Eve, disguised as Danielle, but Scott comes to her rescue
- just in time.
- After Rex is arrested, Lucy finds out that he gave her a dose of a
- slow-acting deadly poison just in case married life didn't work out. Lucy
- makes a big decision and then takes a turn for the worse, while the interns
- race to come up with the antidote.
- An old friend comes to see Lucy.
- Grace comes to a realization.
- Matt tells Ellen he isn't who he seems to be. Hoping to get more dirt on
- Matt, Chris "borrows" Matt's apartment keys and gets more than he expected.
- In a last-ditch attempt to get Rex to cough up a cure for Lucy, Kevin
- enlists the aid of some creepy crawlers.
- Kevin devises a plan to beat Rex at his own game.
- Scott makes his escape and shares a close moment with Serena.
- Ellen is shocked by Matt's reaction to an unexpected visitor.
- Chris continues to invade Matt's privacy and does something that disturbs
- Matt greatly.
- Grace is suspicious but Ellen covers for Matt.
- Katherine provides some use information to Kevin who taps into his
- ''ryan-esque side'' to square off with Rex and may actually give Rex a run
- for his money and and the scare of his life.
-
-
- ----
-
- You're Going to Love These Days
-
- Monday
- Lucy learns that Rex's treachery has only just begun.
- Chris convinces Ellen to take Matt to the hospital.
-
- Tuesday
- Karen finds out about Eve and Scott's budding romance.
- Ellen presses Matt for the truth.
-
- Wednesday
- No info yet.
-
- Thursaday
- No info yet.
-
- Friday
- No info yet.
-
-
-
-
-
-
- -
-
-
-
- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- From: "Donald K Gooden" <dkgooden@email.msn.com>
- Subject: GH/PC: Lizzie
- Date: 15 Feb 1998 01:58:59 -0500
-
- S
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- C
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- >
- >
- >
- Despite Lucky's best efforts, Liz is afraid to tell him all the details
- about the attack.
-
- I heard some speculation in one of that Chatrooms that Tony is accused then
- acquitted of this crime. Would anyone like to place bets? Do you think it
- will turn out to be someone with character connections or will it be a
- virtual nobody? I guess the crucial question is do we think that Lizzie was
- raped? Personally I do. I guess we will find out this week.
-
- Jamila
-
-
-
-
-
- -
-
-
-
- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- From: "Donald K Gooden" <dkgooden@email.msn.com>
- Subject: Re: GH/PC: GH: spoilers part one
- Date: 15 Feb 1998 02:09:06 -0500
-
-
- -Cagey wrote
-
- >At 12:48 PM 2/14/98 -0500, you wrote:
- >>Spoilers for the week of Feb 16
- >> Jamila
- >>S
- >>P
- >>O
- >>I
- >>L
- >>E
- >>R
- >>
- >>S
- >>P
- >>A
- >>C
- >>E
- >>>
- >>
- >>>
- >
- >> The Quartermaines forbid Emily to see Nikolas, after
- >Sarah convinces
- >>them that she is "worried" about her best friend spending
- >so much time on
- >>the island.
- >
- >Wow, Sarah has a sneaky backbone after all. I was
- >beginning to think she wasn't a real Webber.
- >
- > Cagey
-
- I am beginning to really dislike Sarah. At the start I thought that she was
- OK. Now I think that she is turning into a bitch. I mean look at the way she
- used Lucky. She invited him to the dance, then she talked about Nikolas the
- entire time. Now, this stunt with Emily is really mean. I don't now if Sarah
- realizes this, but Nik doesn't really have any friends. Is she willing to
- make him lose Emily just because she is jealous? If she really cared about
- him she would be supportive. Also, Em and Nik have been friends for much
- longer than Sarah and Nik. I wonder if Em and Nik will find out what Sarah's
- real motives are.
- Oh yeah. I have a question. the spoilers say that Sarah does this Emily
- thing on Wednesday. If Liz has been attacked in the park, shouldn't Sarah be
- concerned enough for her sister to forget about Nik for at least 24 hours.
- Jamila
-
-
-
-
-
- -
-
-
-
- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- From: "Donald K Gooden" <dkgooden@email.msn.com>
- Subject: GH/PC: Robin and Nik
- Date: 15 Feb 1998 02:20:14 -0500
-
- I wrote
-
-
- >More spoilers
- > Jamila
- >S
- >P
- >O
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- >L
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- >>
- >
- >
- >
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- >
- >
- >Although Robin has only met Nikolas once, she goes to Wyndemere to ask him
- >if he'll work with her instead of with Emily. Stefan overhears and tells
- Robin that Nikolas is not in need of any outside assistance. Robin tells
- Stefan that she'll wait for Nikolas to return from his horseback riding to
- ask him herself. Stefan is surprised to see the young man's response to
- Robin. And while Nikolas is reluctant at first,
- >he agrees to give it a shot.
-
- God I hate the idea of Robin and Nik. I hate the idea of Robin period. The
- way she has been acting with Jason lately just drives me crazy. Where does
- she get off telling him what to do. I personally wouldn't mind if TPTB wrote
- Robin off the show. I gag every time I think of a relationship between Robin
- and Nik. Their characters seem so uncompatible. God, I think I am going to
- throw up. Anyway, Why would Mac think that The Cassadines would be an
- improvement over Stone and Jason. Will we have to go through that entire Mac
- not improving scenario all over again. That would be so lame. My sister just
- pointed out that Nikolas is a few years younger than Robin. She is what 19
- now, and he is 16. If they had sex Robin could go to jail.
-
-
- Jamila
- >
-
-
-
-
-
- -
-
-
-
- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- From: "Donald K Gooden" <dkgooden@email.msn.com>
- Subject: GH/PC: Jerry
- Date: 15 Feb 1998 02:28:09 -0500
-
- This is just rumor
- R
- U
- M
- O
- R
-
- S
- P
- A
- C
- E
- >
- >
- >>
- I heard that Jerry Jacks has something to do with this Tess and James thing.
- Maybe that is why Ashley is suddenly in the picture. Could she have
- something to do with it also. Hhmmmm I wonder........Besides, Jax needs a
- story line other than hovering around Brenda 24-7.
- Jamila
-
-
-
-
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- From: "Donald K Gooden" <dkgooden@email.msn.com>
- Subject: GH/PC: Sonny
- Date: 15 Feb 1998 02:34:16 -0500
-
- What is the word on Maurice? I heard he was coming back to do a few
- episodes. How will they work that out. I thought that he was on the run. If
- he does come back I will not want to see the show down between him and
- Brenda. I am sorry if this message required spoiler space.
-
- Jamila
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- From: Mike Boychuk <dboychuk@Direct.ca>
- Subject: Re: GH/PC: Sonny
- Date: 15 Feb 1998 10:39:54 -0800
-
-
-
-
- Finaly something that I can respond to because I've been following this one
- religiously. Cindi Rineheart(Northwest Afternoon, anyone else even in the
- area to get it?) She said he was in discussion with the producer for coming
- for a few weeks. But she had Steve Burton on last Wednesday who said he
- came back to do the prime time episode with him but as far as he knows
- "Maurice is happy being fat and hairy at home." Direct quote. Shame isnt it?
-
-
-
- Mike
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- From: "Donald K Gooden" <dkgooden@email.msn.com>
- Subject: GH/PC: Lucky and Lizzie
- Date: 16 Feb 1998 16:30:23 -0500
-
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- >
- >
- Today's episode was powerful. It was just wow. I can't remember the name
- of the actress that plays Lizzie, but she did a really good job. I must also
- commend Jonathan on his job today. I am glad that Lucky is going to be
- supporting Liz in this story line. I mean today is the first time that I
- have actually liked Lucky. In all that Cassadine vs. Spencer Nik vs. Lucky
- stuff, Nik IMHO was always in the right. Lucky used to always act like an
- ass. Now that they have him working on a non-Cassadine story he is actually
- a decent guy. I couldn't believe it when Lucky started to cry today. I have
- never seen that side of him. He was acting so supportive and protective. I
- will agree with Luke that Luke is maturing very nicely. All I have to say is
- Lucky is the man.
- I can't wait till this whole story comes to light. I know that it is to
- soon being as it just happened. Still, it will be one of the better stories
- that has happened in the recent past. I am going to go and re-watch the
- episode. I will have more to say later.
-
- Jamila
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- From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
- Subject: GH/PC: ADMIN: Rules Amendment
- Date: 16 Feb 1998 16:06:14 -0800
-
- Because of an unfortunate incident there has been a need to make a minor
- amendment the list rules: From now on anything posted to the list is not
- to be shared/sent/forwarded elsewhere without the author's express written
- consent.
-
- Apologies to everyone for not having this in the rules to being with.
-
- It has been added to the list rules on the web page
- (http://www.taiyin.net/lists/), as well as in the greeting message.
-
- Taiyin, Co-Listmom <taiyin@taiyin.net>
- Ultimate GH/PC Links: http://www.taiyin.net/links/
- K&L's Lighthouse: http://www.taiyin.net/lighthouse/
- Kevin's Couch: http://www.taiyin.net/couch/
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- From: Cagey <cagey@geocities.com>
- Subject: GH/PC: ADMIN stuff
- Date: 16 Feb 1998 16:59:40 -0800 (PST)
-
-
- Technically, I suppose that info about actors who are
- returning for particular days or episodes is a spoiler, and
- should be marked as such. Please remember to include
- spoiler space.
-
- Also, I'd like to remind everybody on the GH/PC list who is
- not on the K&L list (as so hasn't already heard this) that
- you shouldn't forward other people's posts without the
- express consent of the original author--that includes
- spoiler info that they might provide. It's common
- netiquette, and we have since incorporated it into the list
- rules, which means violations will bring consequences.
-
- Many thanks,
-
- --Cagey, Nasty Evil List Step Mom (who has a very nice
- stepmom, thank you very much <g>)
-
- -
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- From: Cagey <cagey@geocities.com>
- Subject: Re: GH/PC: ADMIN: Rules Amendment
- Date: 16 Feb 1998 17:46:34 -0800 (PST)
-
-
- ListMoms who, though practically on different sides of the
- country, think and post the same thing at the same time,
- are scary, don't you think? ;)
-
- --kg
-
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- From: "Julie Saker" <jesaker@hotmail.com>
- Subject: Re: GH/PC: Lizzie
- Date: 17 Feb 1998 08:38:57 PST
-
- jamila wrote:
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-
- >I heard some speculation in one of that Chatrooms that Tony is accused
- then
- >acquitted of this crime.
-
- oh, YUCK. we all know tony's a bit over the edge these
- days, but to think that he would be capable of RAPING a
- fifteen-year-old? i don't THINK so. and we'll probably
- get another damn trial out of it. <sigh>
-
- >Would anyone like to place bets? Do you think it
- >will turn out to be someone with character connections or will it be a
- >virtual nobody?
-
- i'm going with the virtual nobody. it was portrayed
- so viciously, i can't think of any existing character
- they would want to make capable of doing something
- that horrible, and that irredeemable. (i know, can we
- say "luke"? more on that in my next post...)
-
- >I guess the crucial question is do we think that Lizzie was
- >raped? Personally I do. I guess we will find out this week.
-
- oh absolutely. no doubt about that one. in MY opinion
- anyway! :)
-
- julie
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- From: "Julie Saker" <jesaker@hotmail.com>
- Subject: Re: GH/PC: Lucky and Lizzie (SPEC included, way down)
- Date: 17 Feb 1998 08:51:54 PST
-
- jamila wrote:
-
- > Today's episode was powerful. It was just wow. I can't remember the
- name
- >of the actress that plays Lizzie, but she did a really good job.
-
- i totally agree. i've always liked lizzie as an actress (at least in
- comparison to sarah--YUCK!), but her character has been more than a tad
- grating. a bit too one-dimensional (like lark on pc, for that matter.)
- but since the day she and audrey had their heart-to-heart at the
- hospital, and she came back positively RADIANT after successfully asking
- lucky to the dance, i've REALLY begun to like her. and this whole attack
- thing--she was just great, in my opinion.
-
- >I must also commend Jonathan on his job today.
-
- this is the part that really surprised me. i've NEVER liked lucky.
- he's always been WAY too much of a brat for my taste. but i was
- practically cheering him on in friday and monday's eps. i loved when he
- told off sarah and went looking for lizzie, and he was just WONDERFUL
- with her after he found her. (i was a little annoyed at him leaving her
- alone--after all, he could have left a message for bobbie to call him
- the SECOND she got out of surgery--but that's just quibbling. i was
- mostly pissed because that gave her the opportunity to take a shower,
- which i was hoping she'd be smarter than to do. but oh well...) all in
- all, lucky was great, and i was pleased to see a bit of a character
- turnaround on his part. i think this is going to rock his world in a
- BIG way...particularly if it goes where i suspect it's going.
-
-
- > I can't wait till this whole story comes to light. I know that it
- is to
- >soon being as it just happened. Still, it will be one of the better
- stories
- >that has happened in the recent past.
-
- not really a spoiler, more speculation, but still...
-
- s
- p
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- l
- o
- w
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- j
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- s
- t
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- e
-
- good enough. ok, so i'm QUITE convinced by now, based on the previews
- they've shown, that the new tv guide chat guy was WAY wrong (he needs
- some new sources, NOW. he is no logan, that's for sure...), and that
- they are INDEED going to tackle the luke/laura rape thing. (i think
- THAT would be enough to lure genie back, don't you? :) and i for one
- can hardly wait. i know i said before that i think it's kind of
- irrelevant at this point, after they've been married for so long--and i
- do still believe that--but i didn't really realize that lucky didn't
- know. WOW is that going to KILL him. i'm not sure the relationship
- between luke and lucky will ever recover from that shock, unless luke
- finally does some serious soul-searching...which should be AWESOME to
- watch. i can't wait!
-
- yeah for gh! at last...something non-brenda-related to watch!
-
- julie
-
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- From: "Julie Saker" <jesaker@hotmail.com>
- Subject: Re: GH/PC: GH: Spoilers Part two
- Date: 17 Feb 1998 08:56:51 PST
-
- jamila wrote:
-
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- >
- >
-
- >When a jealous Sarah snidely tells the Quartermaines how much time
- Emily is
- >spending with Nikolas, helping him learn to talk again, the Q's put
- their
- >foot down.
-
- <sigh> they couldn't come up with anything better than THIS?
- puh-LEEZE. haven't we seen, in the past few weeks, how much effect the
- q's "putting their foot down" has on emily? i don't believe for a
- second that she would let that stop her from helping nik.
-
- >All seems to be going Sarah's way - until Emily seeks advice from
- >Robin.
-
- haven't they only had one or two scenes together, EVER? i think tptb
- are forcing this nik/robin thing WAY too hard...
-
- >Although Robin has only met Nikolas once, she goes to Wyndemere to ask
- him
- >if he'll work with her instead of with Emily.
-
- i'm sorry, but this is NOT helping robin's little-miss-fix-it image.
-
- julie
-
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- From: "Julie Saker" <jesaker@hotmail.com>
- Subject: Re: GH/PC: Robin and Nik
- Date: 17 Feb 1998 09:01:35 PST
-
- jamila wrote:
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- >God I hate the idea of Robin and Nik. <snip> My sister just
- >pointed out that Nikolas is a few years younger than Robin. She is what
- 19
- >now, and he is 16. If they had sex Robin could go to jail.
-
- good point, but...unless nik suddenly turns out to be hiv+, i don't see
- any circumstance, EVER, under which robin would have sex with him
- anyway. not technically anyway, which is all that matters for statutory
- rape.
-
- but i'm with you on hating the whole idea of the two of them anyway.
- this whole set-up is ridiculous. why on earth would she have introduced
- herself to him in the hospital, and WHY would she go see him now??? it
- makes no sense...
-
- julie
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- From: "Julie Saker" <jesaker@hotmail.com>
- Subject: GH/PC: PC--the END
- Date: 17 Feb 1998 09:04:41 PST
-
- all i can say is HALLELUJAH that the rex thing is OVER! well, except
- for lucy and the poison. but at least the ridiculous charade nonsense
- is over and done with. i was a little annoyed at the sudden way they
- all seemed to finally buy a clue--lucy realizing all of a sudden that
- her purse was bugged, and scotty finally growing a brain and brinking
- conklin in on it...but you know what? i'm SO GLAD IT'S OVER that i
- don't even care!
-
- on to bigger and better things...i hope!
-
- julie
-
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- From: "Gina Clayton" <GCLAYTON@LES.LES.SC.EDU>
- Subject: GH/PC: Lizzie
- Date: 17 Feb 1998 12:47:38 EST5EDT
-
- I read this in Soaps in Depth. they have all the ABC soaps featured.
- It's pretty good.
- s
- p
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- s
- p
- a
- c
- e
-
- Guza said that "Lizzie's rape will start small and build into
- something big." He also said that "it will involve at least 10
- characters (including Nik and Emily) and will fundamentally change
- their whole perspective about relationships, being a teenager, and
- life itself." Guza hints that Audrey will eventually find out, but
- her response will not be what we'd predict. "we're going to reach
- back into Audrey's past, there are a couple of aspects of her life
- that are going to directly influence her granddaughter"
-
- I read that when Lucky tried to contact Lizzie the next day, she is
- in bed with flu symptoms. Audrey thanks him for showin Lizzie such a
- good time. Lizzie refuses to discuss what happened and pleads that
- her not tell Audrey aobut it. Mustering up courage, Lucky asks
- Lizzie straight up if she was raped. Liz nods then collapses in his
- arms. she begs him to forget she ever told him, but he doesn't think
- he should. the two share an intense heart-to-heart about the
- possibility of HIV and pregnancy. Later, Liz returns to work at
- Kelly's but becomes inexplicably frightened when Mr. Murty approaches
- her. Luke and Bobbie do their best to comfort her, but she breaks
- down and bolts. Determined to get to the bottom of the bruises she
- noticed on her sister, Sarah follows Lizzie outside where Lizzie
- confides she was raped. Taking Liz in her arms, Sarah asks who did
- it. Through tears, Liz admits she doesn't know.
-
- this is going to be a great story!!
- gina
-
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-
- From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
- Subject: Re: GH/PC: ADMIN: Rules Amendment
- Date: 17 Feb 1998 09:38:11 -0800
-
- At 05:46 PM 2/16/98 -0800, Cagey wrote:
- >
- >ListMoms who, though practically on different sides of the
- >country, think and post the same thing at the same time,
- >are scary, don't you think? ;)
-
- <snort> And they haven't even seen us together in RL(tm). ;-)
-
- Now, as for yesterday's GH... wow. Double wow.
-
- Aside from the fact that, on principle, I have a problem with rape as a
- storyline, I must say that if they handle it as well as they did yesterday,
- I will be able to forgive it.
-
- Jamila wrote:
-
- > Today's episode was powerful. It was just wow. I can't remember the name
- >of the actress that plays Lizzie, but she did a really good job.
-
- Becky Herbst. And I totally agree. I'm really glad they are giving her a
- storyline. I think most people wrote her off so early on that, because of
- the pitiful story she had, it wasn't necessarily obvious that she can act.
- Yesterday she showed she can.
-
- >I must also
- >commend Jonathan on his job today. I am glad that Lucky is going to be
- >supporting Liz in this story line. I mean today is the first time that I
- >have actually liked Lucky.
-
- I love Lucky. I always have. But yesterday he was incredible. Absolutely
- amazing. Lucky crying in the scenes where he was telling Luke and then at
- the end after he took Lizzie home -- fabulous. And absolutely
- heart-wrenching. I had to watch those several times before I could absorb
- the entire scene.
-
- >I couldn't believe it when Lucky started to cry today. I have
- >never seen that side of him. He was acting so supportive and protective. I
- >will agree with Luke that Luke is maturing very nicely. All I have to say is
- >Lucky is the man.
-
- No kidding. That's the side of Lucky that I love. That's the way he's
- always been with Emily, too. Gods help me or I'm going to start liking
- Lucky and Lizzie.
-
- > I can't wait till this whole story comes to light. I know that it is to
- >soon being as it just happened. Still, it will be one of the better stories
- >that has happened in the recent past. I am going to go and re-watch the
- >episode. I will have more to say later.
-
- Hopefully it will be. I think soaps have a very bad habit of doing a
- disservice to rape storylines. If they follow through with how they
- handled eysterday, though, it should be pretty good.
-
- The performances all the way around were so right on. The whole scene with
- Luke and Lucky was amazing. I'll probably have to watch that one a few
- more times still.
-
- Taiyin
- "By all means, please, sacrifice me on the altar of your amusement.
- It's the least I can contribute to your evening." -- Kevin Collins, GH
-
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- From: "Gina Clayton" <GCLAYTON@LES.LES.SC.EDU>
- Subject: Re: GH/PC: PC--the END
- Date: 17 Feb 1998 12:49:40 EST5EDT
-
- > all i can say is HALLELUJAH that the rex thing is OVER! well, except
- > for lucy and the poison. but at least the ridiculous charade nonsense
- > is over and done with. i was a little annoyed at the sudden way they
- > all seemed to finally buy a clue--lucy realizing all of a sudden that
- > her purse was bugged, and scotty finally growing a brain and brinking
- > conklin in on it...but you know what? i'm SO GLAD IT'S OVER that i
- > don't even care!
- >
- > on to bigger and better things...i hope!
- ITA!!!! Now all they need to do is do something with this Lark
- storyline!!1
-
- -
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- From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
- Subject: Re: GH/PC: PC--the END
- Date: 17 Feb 1998 09:54:51 -0800
-
- At 09:04 AM 2/17/98 PST, Julie Saker wrote:
- >i was a little annoyed at the sudden way they
- >all seemed to finally buy a clue--lucy realizing all of a sudden that
- >her purse was bugged, and scotty finally growing a brain and brinking
- >conklin in on it...but you know what? i'm SO GLAD IT'S OVER that i
- >don't even care!
-
- Can't argue that! <g>
-
- Hopefully now they'll get onto something else. They have all kinds of
- subplots that have been simmering in the background during this thing. Now
- that they can cut this albatross loose, maybe we can move onto some of the
- more interesting things waiting in the wings.
-
- Like Kevin & Lucy GETTING MARRIED. <ahem>
-
- And Matt and Ellen.
-
- And this Chris/Eve/Scott thing. I do wish they'd go back to plying up the
- Chris/Eve bit, though. I like Scott and Eve, but they've been together so
- much lately that they've effectively removed Chris from the equation and I
- miss him being there.
-
- Taiyin
- "By all means, please, sacrifice me on the altar of your amusement.
- It's the least I can contribute to your evening." -- Kevin Collins, GH
-
- -
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- From: Mike Boychuk <dboychuk@Direct.ca>
- Subject: Re: GH/PC: Lizzie
- Date: 17 Feb 1998 10:31:41 -0800
-
- At 08:38 AM 17/02/98 PST, you wrote:
- >jamila wrote:
- >
- >
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- >>I heard some speculation in one of that Chatrooms that Tony is accused
- >then
- >>acquitted of this crime.
- >
- >oh, YUCK. we all know tony's a bit over the edge these
- >days, but to think that he would be capable of RAPING a
- >fifteen-year-old? i don't THINK so. and we'll probably
- >get another damn trial out of it. <sigh>
-
- I'm going to have to put my money against the virtual nobody and say Tony
- did it. I mean the guy has flipped pretty bad, and a virtual nobody would
- be really boring wouldnt it?
-
- -
-
-
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-
- From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
- Subject: Re: GH/PC: Lizzie
- Date: 17 Feb 1998 10:38:28 -0800
-
- At 10:31 AM 2/17/98 -0800, Mike Boychuk wrote:
-
- >>>S
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- >>>>
- >
- >I'm going to have to put my money against the virtual nobody and say Tony
- >did it. I mean the guy has flipped pretty bad, and a virtual nobody would
- >be really boring wouldnt it?
-
- I don't think Lizzie'd agree. Lucky, either. I think this story is being
- taken from more of a reactionary stand point than anything else. I mean,
- while this certainly DID happen to Lizzie, the Spencers are being played
- into this VERY heavily, and I don't see that changing anytime soon. And
- frankly, if it weren't for the Spencer angle, I don't think they would have
- done this story at all (and that, ovjectively speaking, is probably one of
- the worst reasons for them to do it; too bad it makes such compelling
- story). Eventually I think they'll really HAVE to focus much more on
- Lizzie, but for now, as we saw yesterday we are getting a very, very heavy
- dose of Lucky's reaction to this.
-
- As for whether or not Tony was involved... aside from the fact that I don't
- think they've bottomed Tony out to the point of doing that, I don't
- honestly think the show would be willing to risk Brad Maule that way.
-
- And I think there is a trend to consider, too: historically on soaps, when
- one main character rapes another main character it's a matter of date rape,
- or at the very least aquaintance rape. It almost ALWAYS boils down to a
- matter of he said/she said (Marty's rape on OLtL is about the only
- exception to that I can think of; but Todd did not become a main character
- until after that). Certainly not "better" in any way, but most DEFINITELY
- not the same thing as grabbing a teenager off a park bench, dragging her
- into the bushes, beating the crap out of her, raping her and then leaving
- her there to fend for herself, half dressed, in the freezing snow.
-
- Taiyin
- "By all means, please, sacrifice me on the altar of your amusement.
- It's the least I can contribute to your evening." -- Kevin Collins, GH
-
- -
-
-
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-
- From: Jill Kirby <sigmund@xmission.com>
- Subject: GH/PC: GH spoilage
- Date: 17 Feb 1998 10:48:24 -0800
-
- S
- P
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-
- Just caught part of a GH promo-- there's a scene with Luke saying to Bobby
- something like "If you want me to explain to Lucky what happened between
- me and his mother a million years ago, you're insane!" Geary looks
- reeeeeally scary when he says this.
-
- They're definitely doing this to lure back Genie. Not a doubt in my mind.
- There were a dozen other storylines they could have done very easily to
- involve Lucky with Lizzie-- this one was SPECIFICALLY chosen.
-
- Jill
-
- jtkirby@mcs.com
-
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-
- From: "Julie Saker" <jesaker@hotmail.com>
- Subject: Re: Re: GH/PC: Lizzie
- Date: 17 Feb 1998 10:58:36 PST
-
- mike wrote:
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-
- >>
- >>
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- >>>>
- >>>>
- >>
- >
- >I'm going to have to put my money against the virtual nobody and say
- Tony
- >did it. I mean the guy has flipped pretty bad, and a virtual nobody
- would
- >be really boring wouldnt it?
-
- well, yeah, it's boring...but they do it all the time. for example: who
- killed dorman? monica? emily? ned? jason? uh-uh. tin man. WHO?
-
- or, did you watch 90210 back in the early days? all the commercials for
- the "very special episode" where "one of the gang is going to die"? who
- was it? random guy--david's little friend.
-
- all these shows do that, because they don't want to either kill off a
- very popular character (unless contract negotiations force them to), or
- make a popular character do something so heinous that the audience would
- never forgive it. yes, tony's gone off the deep end. but considering
- the large percentage of the audience (i'm guessing here) who still can't
- get the image of a bereft tony bending down over maxie to listen to bj's
- heart inside her cousin's chest...i REALLY don't believe they'd have him
- rape a teenager. lorraine, maybe--she's older, and she's kind of
- unsympathetic, so it wouldn't be SO horrible (yes, a rape is still
- horrible regardless...but you know what i mean, right?). or do
- something evil to carly--who could blame him? but no amount of dementia
- could explain away doing what that attacker did to lizzie, who's only
- slightly older than bj would have been had she lived. i don't buy it.
- i can see them accusing him, because he HAS gone off the deep end--and
- the new look will probably figure into it once lizzie describes her
- attacker. but i REALLY don't think it will end up being him--even if it
- WOULD be more interesting that way.
-
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- From: "Julie Saker" <jesaker@hotmail.com>
- Subject: GH/PC: PC yesterday--HELP!!!
- Date: 18 Feb 1998 06:17:15 PST
-
- HELP!
-
- i got home last night, rewound my tape, pressed play, and here's what i
- got: the opening scene of pc, the credits, then lucy and kevin go to
- the hospital and run into joe. joe asks what the problem is, lucy says
- "rex claimed he's poisoned me" THEN...literally, RIGHT then...bum, bum,
- bummmm....abc news special bulletin logo appears across the screen,
- followed by "crisis in iraq" (must have been easier to just subsitute
- "iraq" from the past few weeks' graphic of "crisis in the white house"
- than to come up with a whole new phrase...) then clinton appears, and
- continues to speak for the next half hour, so that's ALL i saw of port
- charles yesterday.
-
- so...anybody out there who's NOT in the nyc area get the whole show and
- care to enlighten us east-coast folks as to what we missed? (thankfully
- he didn't talk long enough to pre-empt gh too!) any info would be MUCH
- appreciated!
-
- thanks! :)
-
- julie
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- From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
- Subject: Re: GH/PC: PC yesterday--H*LP!!!
- Date: 18 Feb 1998 08:43:45 -0800
-
- Julie pleaded:
-
- >so...anybody out there who's NOT in the nyc area get the whole show and
- >care to enlighten us east-coast folks as to what we missed? (thankfully
- >he didn't talk long enough to pre-empt gh too!) any info would be MUCH
- >appreciated!
-
- Several good things, though my biases undoubtedly show. <g>
-
- First of all is, the wrap-up of the Rex nightmare: K&L are at the hospital
- so Lucy can get tests. She decided not to tell Scott anything, because she
- didn't want to ruin his reunion with Serena. The judge overturned Scott's
- conviction based on Conklin's testimony and Rex's videotaped confession.
- He also arranged for custody of Serena to be returned to Scott. And
- Conkilin kept quiet about Scott's escape. (And, like Julie said yesterday,
- despite the fact that this whole thing wrapped up unrealistically fast, I
- am so grateful that I won't gripe about it.)
-
- Scott and Serena went home to the firehouse to find Karen and Eve there
- with a celebration. Karen later spotted Eve and Scott kissing. She and
- Eve had a talk about Eve's relationship with Scott. Eve told Karen that if
- she had a problem with it to please tell her. Karen swore she was cool and
- she was happy for both of them.
-
- Audrey commented to K&L that she was happy that they nabbed Rex and she was
- especially delighted that they hadn't really broken up after all. She did
- ask, however, why they were there and Lucy felt guilty for CONTINUING to
- lie to people. Kevin assured her that they were entitled to their privacy
- -- adn that she had EARNED the right not to discuss Rex. Besides, they
- didn't know if it was even true yet or not, so there was no point in
- worrying people unnecessarily.
-
- Joe ran blood tests for Lucy, while Julie and Chris gossiped about
- them/her. Joe overheard and went ballistic about how Lucy was a hero for
- saving Serena. Chris commented on her recent "behavior" and Joe pounded
- him, saying that it was an act for Rex's benefit. Chris counter with "how
- was I supposed to know that"? ("What the hell business is it of yours to
- pass judgement in the first place" is my question...) Julie and Chris both
- questioned Joe about his mood.
-
- He was upset because he had to give Lucy the bad news: there is something
- in her system, though he can't yet isolate what it is. Her white blood
- cell count it up and she's got a stomach ache, but so far that's about it.
-
- Garcia called Scott at the firehouse and told him about Lucy. He barreled
- over there, just before Joe gave them the news. Scott told Joe that he
- didn't care what it cost, but he wanted everyone in the hospital working on
- Lucy's case if that's what it took. The ep ended with Kevin leaving and
- Lucy asking him where he was going. He answered: "I'm going to find out
- what Rex did to you if I have to beat it out of him."
-
- And he was so calm Rex would worry about his own safety if he wasn't such
- an egomaniac.
-
- The other part of the ep was Ellen and Matt. Some of the interns chriped
- around Matt about how he landed in the hospital, yadda, yadda, yadda. And
- they all bought his sotry about the exploding can of terpentine. Ellen,
- however, got ahold of his x-ray and discovered that there are bullet
- fragments still lodged in his spine. She confronted him and he admitted,
- reluctantly, that he didn't injure his back in a skiing accident, after all.
-
- She continued to pres shim about why he refused to go to the hospital. He
- said because he didn't want anyone tracing him back to GH. She said that
- didn't make any sense, because if someone was looking fo rhim they wouldn't
- have a hard time finding him, because the name "Matt Harmon" had been in
- the computers for months.
-
- He said he was glad to hear that because "Matt Harmon" was not his real name.
-
- I think that was about it...
-
- Taiyin, crossing my fingers every day that Kevin doesn't shave anytime
- soon...
- "By all means, please, sacrifice me on the altar of your amusement.
- It's the least I can contribute to your evening." -- Kevin Collins, GH
-
- -
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- From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
- Subject: GH/PC: More Lucky and Lizzie
- Date: 18 Feb 1998 08:55:33 -0800
-
- Well, though it could not possibly compare to Monday, watching Lucky
- struggle with Lizzie's decision was very good. I especially loved that
- Bobbie pointed out that Lizzie's decision wasn't "wrong" and that it was
- her's to make.
-
- And watching Lucky's face while Audrey was going on about how happy Lizzie
- was about the dance etc. was painful. And though I certainly don't think
- Lucky should be blamed for what happened to Lizzie, I do want him to feel
- guilty for dumping her in favor of Sarah like a big jerk.
-
- I especially loved, though, that he is determined to live up to what Lizzie
- and Audrey both think of him.
-
- And poor Lizzie, lying in bed and listening to Lucky pound on the door...
-
- Taiyin
- "You're the shrink. What do you
- need me to tell you that for?"
- --"Maybe I'm having a Stupid Day."
- -- Mac and Kevin, GH
-
- -
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- From: Cagey <cagey@geocities.com>
- Subject: Re: GH/PC: PC yesterday--H*LP!!!
- Date: 18 Feb 1998 13:51:08 -0500
-
-
- Thank you Taiyin! I was irked, to say the least. And, of course, the
- offices of our affiliate close at 5, so I couldn't even find out if they
- planned on rebroadcasting PC <grr>.
-
- >why they were there and Lucy felt guilty for CONTINUING to
- >lie to people.
-
- I'm confused. Why is it a secret that Lucy has been poisoned (I assume
- that's what the "lie" is?)? I realize there's "no point in worrying people
- unnecessarily," but the reaction you described for Lucy to Audrey's
- question is kind of odd.
-
- >Garcia called Scott at the firehouse and told him about Lucy.
-
- Huh? I love the way Garcia just shows up randomly... Presumably they've
- paid off the actor who played Conklin, so they had to have Garcia break the
- news.
-
- >He said he was glad to hear that because "Matt Harmon" was not his real name.
-
- I am continually amazed at how easy it is for people to fabricate whole
- histories, with appropriate documentation, that scam entire communities
- into thinking they are someone else...
-
- >Taiyin, crossing my fingers every day that Kevin doesn't shave anytime
- >soon...
-
- A razor! Get the man a razor! ;)
-
- --kg
-
- -
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- From: "Julie Saker" <jesaker@hotmail.com>
- Subject: GH/PC: PC yesterday
- Date: 18 Feb 1998 12:20:02 PST
-
- thanks a million for the recap, taiyin! i was SO annoyed last
- night...which i guess is a sure sign that, despite my best efforts, i am
- now officially hooked on TWO soaps. damn. :)
-
- i certainly hope scott was appropriately concerned (and GUILTY!) about
- lucy's predicament when he learned the truth!!!
-
- and kevin going after rex...god i hope clinton doesn't get it into his
- head to talk again today! i can't really imagine anyone being able to
- get rex to spill his little secret on this one, but i'd SO like rex to
- come out on the bottom for once, y'know?
-
- so no REAL news yet on the matt front, huh? i must admit, i'm getting
- curious. think they'd bring back the wsb? THINK THEY'D BRING BACK
- ROBERT AND ANNA???? sorry, got a little overexcited there just thinking
- about it...
-
- oh well, back to work. <sigh> but thanks again! you made my day! :)
-
- julie
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- From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
- Subject: Re: GH/PC: PC yesterday--H*LP!!!
- Date: 18 Feb 1998 12:20:51 -0800
-
- At 01:51 PM 2/18/98 -0500, Cagey wrote:
- >
- >I'm confused. Why is it a secret that Lucy has been poisoned (I assume
- >that's what the "lie" is?)? I realize there's "no point in worrying people
- >unnecessarily," but the reaction you described for Lucy to Audrey's
- >question is kind of odd.
-
- Actually, what happen was, Audrey asked K&L why they were at GH instead of
- off celebrating. And Lucy said that she was just having some routine tests
- run. After Audrey walked away she made a sort of off-handed comment along
- the lines of, "Will I EVER be able to stop lying to everyone?" I think it
- was mostly design to show how sick and tired of this whole thing she is.
-
- It's not that the poinsoning is a secret, but they didn't want it getting
- out until they knew for sure.
-
- >>Garcia called Scott at the firehouse and told him about Lucy.
- >
- >Huh? I love the way Garcia just shows up randomly... Presumably they've
- >paid off the actor who played Conklin, so they had to have Garcia break the
- >news.
-
- Actually, Garcia was off-camera. If I didn't have the closed captioning
- on, I probably would have missed that Garcia was the one who called.
-
- >>Taiyin, crossing my fingers every day that Kevin doesn't shave anytime
- >>soon...
- >
- >A razor! Get the man a razor! ;)
-
- Over my dead body! Pfft.
-
- Taiyin
- "By all means, please, sacrifice me on the altar of your amusement.
- It's the least I can contribute to your evening." -- Kevin Collins, GH
-
- -
-
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- From: "Gina Clayton" <GCLAYTON@LES.LES.SC.EDU>
- Subject: Re: GH/PC: More Lucky and Lizzie
- Date: 18 Feb 1998 14:21:15 EST5EDT
-
- there is a spoiler I heard a long time ago about Liz's rapist at the
- bottom!! I'm not sure if it was a rumor or a spoiler.
-
- > Well, though it could not possibly compare to Monday, watching Lucky
- > struggle with Lizzie's decision was very good. I especially loved that
- > Bobbie pointed out that Lizzie's decision wasn't "wrong" and that it was
- > her's to make.
- I love Bobbie and am very glad that she is there for Lucky. Now I
- wish Laura would come back, not because of the L&L rape debate, but
- because BOTH of her sons need her. She still doesn't know about Nik
- does she??(ugh!!!! As much as I like Luke, I really dislike the way
- he omits certains truths from people who have a right to know about
- them.)
-
- > And watching Lucky's face while Audrey was going on about how happy Lizzie
- > was about the dance etc. was painful. And though I certainly don't think
- > Lucky should be blamed for what happened to Lizzie, I do want him to feel
- > guilty for dumping her in favor of Sarah like a big jerk.
- ITA!! As many have said recently...JJ is doing a wonderful job with
- this storyline!!
-
- > I especially loved, though, that he is determined to live up to what Lizzie
- > and Audrey both think of him.
- >
- > And poor Lizzie, lying in bed and listening to Lucky pound on the door...
- RH is also doing great!! I TPTB play this out right....so far the
- story AND the characters have alot of potential. Sounds like a
- recipe for success for me!!:):):)
-
-
- OK-I heard a while back that one of Helena's henchmen rapes Lizzie.
- I'm not sure about that, but it would involve the Cassadines into this,
- which is Guza's favorite pasttime:) The more I think about it the
- more interesting it could be. The rapist himself is not a major
- player, but he has connections to some very major players. What do
- ya'll think??
-
- gina, (who is trying to figure out what is going on with Robin
- lately)
- > Taiyin
- > "You're the shrink. What do you
- > need me to tell you that for?"
- > --"Maybe I'm having a Stupid Day."
- > -- Mac and Kevin, GH
- >
- > -
- >
- >
-
- -
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- From: "Julie Saker" <jesaker@hotmail.com>
- Subject: GH/PC: Robin
- Date: 18 Feb 1998 13:38:18 PST
-
- gina wrote:
-
- >(who is trying to figure out what is going on with Robin lately)
-
- i am SO with you on that one!!!
-
- now let me preface this by saying that i LOVE robin--or at least i used
- to. have for YEARS. think that quite possibly the best, and most
- overdue line, i've EVER heard on gh was her "i'm too damn little to be
- anybody's patron saint" line to jason before she left. BUT...
-
- what on EARTH is guza DOING to that girl?!? she's traipsing around town
- butting her nose into EVERYBODY'S business in the world--jason, carly,
- NIKOLAS for god's sake?!? any day i expect her to tell rinaldo that
- he's going to give himself bunions from spending all day on his feet and
- he should really take better care of himself. meanwhile, while she's
- sharing her vast expertise with strangers and enemies and exes, the
- three people who REALLY need her help--brenda, mac, and felicia, get
- NOTHING. ok...so we occasionally get a brenda/robin scene, but RARELY
- anything substantial. and here we have mac and felicia involved in a
- HUGE story (for them, anyway)...and we get NOTHING from robin. i don't
- get it--i really don't. for THIS kimberly left school?
-
- i haven't seen today's ep yet, so maybe you had something more specific
- in mind, but robin's really been infuriating me lately. kimberly is too
- good of an actress, and robin has the potential (and HISTORY) to be too
- fascinating a character, for both of them to be wasted on the drivel
- we've been seeing lately. the only high point was her kiss with jason,
- if only because it was a break from what she's spent every day doing
- since she got back from paris--preaching to people who don't care about
- subjects which are none of her business, while ignoring the people who
- DO care and the subjects which ARE.
-
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- From: "Gina Clayton" <GCLAYTON@LES.LES.SC.EDU>
- Subject: Re: GH/PC: Robin
- Date: 18 Feb 1998 16:48:50 EST5EDT
-
- > now let me preface this by saying that i LOVE robin--or at least i used
- > to. have for YEARS. think that quite possibly the best, and most
- > overdue line, i've EVER heard on gh was her "i'm too damn little to be
- > anybody's patron saint" line to jason before she left. BUT...
- That was a GREAT line....I wish she would show some of that spunk
- now!
-
- > what on EARTH is guza DOING to that girl?!? she's traipsing around town
- > butting her nose into EVERYBODY'S business in the world--jason, carly,
- > NIKOLAS for god's sake? any day i expect her to tell rinaldo that
- > he's going to give himself bunions from spending all day on his feet and
- > he should really take better care of himself
- LOL!
- > meanwhile, while she's
- > sharing her vast expertise with strangers and enemies and exes, the
- > three people who REALLY need her help--brenda, mac, and felicia, get
- > NOTHING. ok...so we occasionally get a brenda/robin scene, but RARELY
- > anything substantial. and here we have mac and felicia involved in a
- > HUGE story (for them, anyway)...and we get NOTHING from robin.
- That is ALL guza's fault becasue Filly and Mac won't let her in on
- it. SHE IS MAC'S NIECE...she NEEDS to know what is going on!!
-
- > i haven't seen today's ep yet, so maybe you had something more specific
- > in mind,
- wait 'til you see it....I won't ruin it for you but to say it is
- Robin and Jason
-
- > but robin's really been infuriating me lately. kimberly is too
- > good of an actress, and robin has the potential (and HISTORY) to be too
- > fascinating a character, for both of them to be wasted on the drivel
- > we've been seeing lately. the only high point was her kiss with jason,
- > if only because it was a break from what she's spent every day doing
- > since she got back from paris--preaching to people who don't care about
- > subjects which are none of her business, while ignoring the people who
- > DO care and the subjects which ARE.
- and looking miserable whenever she sees Jason. I hope that things
- look up for her soon...ITA that Kimberly and Robin are being wasted.
- (with this baby storyline, you would think it would be interesting)
-
- gina
-
- -
-
-
-
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-
- From: Mike Boychuk <dboychuk@direct.ca>
- Subject: GH/PC: GH/PC- Bob Guza on NWA (spoiler)
- Date: 18 Feb 1998 15:32:35 -0800
-
- S
- P
- O
- I
- L
- E
- R
-
-
- S
- P
- A
- C
- E
-
-
- He got maybe a 5 minute phone call in today and aside from going on a bit
- about Genie and Maurice he gives away this one thing about Lizzie's
- rape...He said "a family will implode,a new romance will blossom and a
- previous rivalry will turn into a war.
-
- So I guess what I thought first off were, in order. Spencers, Robin and Nik
- and the Spencer vs. Cassadine war. But I dont know, seems a bit
- obvious...or this could just be my disdain for the thought of Robin and Nik
- together...Any other thoughts?
-
-
-
-
-
- -
-
-
-
- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- From: eblood@xmission.com (Anne B)
- Subject: Re: GH/PC: PC yesterday--H*LP!!!
- Date: 18 Feb 1998 16:48:51 MST
-
- On Wed, 18 Feb 1998 12:20:51 -0800, Taiyin wrote:
- >At 01:51 PM 2/18/98 -0500, Cagey wrote:
- >>
- >>I'm confused. Why is it a secret that Lucy has been poisoned (I assume
- >>that's what the "lie" is?)? I realize there's "no point in worrying people
- >>unnecessarily," but the reaction you described for Lucy to Audrey's
- >>question is kind of odd.
- >
- > ***Stuff deleted***... I think it
- >was mostly design to show how sick and tired of this whole thing she is.
- >
- >It's not that the poinsoning is a secret, but they didn't want it getting
- >out until they knew for sure.
- >
-
- She also said something about not letting Rex have anymore power over
- her which I took to be a little denial on Lucy's part (the more people
- she had to tell the truer it became). But I also like Taiyin's theory
- that this is how the writers show us that Lucy is tired of the lies.
-
- I thought Kevin's remark that it wasn't anybody's business and Lucy had
- every right to lie was an interesting character defining moment. This
- is the usually truthful Kevin's philosophy--that if it is your personal
- pain you don't have any obligation to confide in people who care about
- you. This is were he is always dishonest and the writers have been
- consistent. Reading Rika's transcripts makes me wonder how much
- progress Kevin has really made. Oh, sure, he has opened up and
- shared things with Lucy and Mac but Tuesday's line makes me wonder
- how much he really understands why this is necessary.
-
- --
- Anne B
- eblood@xmission.com
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- From: "Gina Clayton" <GCLAYTON@LES.LES.SC.EDU>
- Subject: Re: GH/PC: GH/PC- Bob Guza on NWA (spoiler)
- Date: 19 Feb 1998 11:02:17 EST5EDT
-
- I will borrow the space:) here is some speculation on a spoiler I
- heard a while back!
-
- > S
- > P
- > O
- > I
- > L
- > E
- > R
- >
- >
- > S
- > P
- > A
- > C
- > E
-
- I have mentioned earlier that I had heard that one of Helena's
- henchmen rapes Lizzie. this would make sense.....
-
- > gives away this one thing about Lizzie's
- > rape...He said "a family will implode,
- This could be the Cassadines or the Spencers. Nik would not take it
- well if his family is responsible for Liz's rape. He could certainly
- blame his grandmother, but also Stefan because he is supposed to keep
- an eye on Helena and try to control her. After all, he is supposed
- to be more powerful. BUT if Lucky were to find out about the L&L
- rape debate, then the family will certainly implode.
-
- >a new romance will blossom and a
- this will probally be Nik and Robin. I doubt they would do that to
- Liz and Lucky yet. But didn't Guza say when he first came on that
- he was going to concentrate on the Jason/Robin relationship because
- he likes them together?? Could this mean someone else?? who??
-
- > previous rivalry will turn into a war.
- Cassadine vs. Spencer....duh! (everything in PC revolves around it)
-
- > So I guess what I thought first off were, in order. Spencers, Robin and Nik
- > and the Spencer vs. Cassadine war. But I dont know, seems a bit
- > obvious...or this could just be my disdain for the thought of Robin and Nik
- > together...Any other thoughts?>
- so far i agree with you excpet the imploding family could go either
- way, but from the looks of it, the Spencers will implode!!
-
- gina
- >
- >
- >
- > -
- >
- >
-
- -
-
-
-
- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- From: Cagey <cagey@geocities.com>
- Subject: Re: GH/PC: GH/PC- Bob Guza on NWA (spoiler)
- Date: 19 Feb 1998 14:18:27 -0500
-
- At 03:32 PM 2/18/98 -0800, Mike Boychuk wrote:
- >S
- >P
- >O
- >I
- >L
- >E
- >R
- >
- >
- >S
- >P
- >A
- >C
- >E
- >
- >
- >He got maybe a 5 minute phone call in today and aside from going on a bit
- >about Genie and Maurice
-
- Any concrete news about a return for either of them?
-
- >But I dont know, seems a bit obvious...or this could
- >just be my disdain for the thought of Robin and Nik together
-
- It *does* seem obvious, doesn't it?
-
- I'm not sure I have an opinion on Robin and Nik, though. I can't stand
- Sarah, and it's obvious that Nik is going to be in town for quite a while,
- so I suppose the Robin/Nik angle had to be tried. I wonder how Jason would
- react...
-
- I'm constantly bewildered by ages, btw. Just how old are these characters
- supposed to be? It doesn't really matter, but I'm just curious.
-
- --kg
-
-
- -
-
-
-
- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- From: "Julie Saker" <jesaker@hotmail.com>
- Subject: GH/PC: Re: GH/PC- Bob Guza on NWA (spoiler)
- Date: 19 Feb 1998 11:23:25 PST
-
- mike wrote: (i'm borrowing his spoiler space, becuase there's a full
- transcript of guza's remarks below...)
-
-
- >S
- >P
- >O
- >I
- >L
- >E
- >R
- >
- >
- >S
- >P
- >A
- >C
- >E
- >
- >Any other thoughts?
-
- well, my first thought is thanks for posting this, because it inspired
- me to go check pc online, SURE that someone would have posted a
- transcript. and, sure enough...here it is, in its entirety, along with
- my own thoughts on the subject...
-
- *************************************
-
- Cindi Rhinehart: Bob, How are you?
-
- Bob Guza: I'm doin' great down here, how are you?
-
- CR: I'm so glad you did this with us. We've only got a few minutes, so I
- want to push right thru if I may....Tony Geary said it himself, you
- heard him (referring to a clip), he said you're the man to make it
- happen. What were your goals when you came back to GH?
-
- BG: Well Cindi, the first thing I wanted to do was to sort of play the
- money. You know, I thought we should pit the titans against one another;
-
- [i'm sorry, but we HAVE to send this man a thesaurus...]
-
- you know, that would be the Spencers and the Cassidines, first and
- foremost;
-
- [REALLY? you're kidding? he likes them? 'cause i wasn't really
- sure... :)]
-
- Jax and Jason,
-
- [now see...THAT, to me, would make for a MUCH more interesting couple
- than j&b part 2! :)]
-
- Bobbi and Carly....I also wanted to re-set the romances, and kind of up
- the stakes a little.
-
- CR: Boy, you sure have!
-
- BG: (not hearing) Excuse me?
-
- CR: You sure have!
-
- BG: The main thing we wanted to do was we wanted to kind of return some
- of the core characters to the foreground, and in particular that meant
- the Quartermaines, for me.
-
- [YEAH!!!!!!!!]
-
- CR: Well -
-
- BG: And the last thing we wanted to do was to make some things happen,
- you know, and drive some story, and make alotta incidents and make it so
- you couldn't like not watch the show.
-
- CR: ...I'm so hot on GH right now! Here's one of the things I want to
- talk about: Sonny's gone.
-
- BG: (laughing) But not forgotten!
-
- CR: Oh, my lord, you should see my e-mail! WHAT does that mean for Jax
- and Brenda?
-
- BG: The big obstacle for Jax and Brenda right now is, Is Brenda Over
- Sonny?
-
- [you mean it's not ASHLEY?!? you're KIDDING... just out of curiosity,
- WHY is that woman here??? she is ENTIRELY unnecessary, if you ask
- me...]
-
- And Jax and Brenda both know until she is there is no future for them,
- and Jax is NOT going to lose out again to Sonny Corinthos!
-
- CR: Now let's talk about comebacks. Is there any official word on
- Laura's return?
-
- BG: I've talked to Genie on several occassions, and she's very happy
- with the family and being with the kids. I think she's very anxious to
- get back, the question is when. And I said to Genie - and you know if
- she's got you guys tuned in up there - Anytime, Anywhere, Anyhow!!
-
- CR: Allright. What about rumours that Maurice Bernard may come back for
- a Brief Stint?
-
- BG: Boy, I tell you what, Cindi, if he doesn't, they're gonna have to
- check ME in to the Brenda Barrett psych ward at GH!
-
- CR: (laughing) I absolutely agree! you know what I say, tho, Bob, as
- much as I love Maurice Bernard, I think the role of Sonny is so pivotal
- that I would like to see you recast it if he won't come back.
-
- [<gasp> <choke> <sputter> i'm sorry...WHAT?!? this woman is on crack.]
-
- BG: Aw, Cindi, perish the thought! NEVER! I couldn't do it! Maurice
- Bernard? Some other Sonny Corinthos? Not happenin'!
-
- [<sigh> THANK you, bob. best news i've heard in ages...]
-
- CR: Okay! Now....the Liz rape storyline is very dramatic. I've gotten a
- huge response from my viewers. Any clues on where it's headed? Now, let
- me tell you what I've gotten in my e-mail: First of all, BTW Bob,
- when I said you were gonna be on, I got more e-mails about you, being on
- the show, and questions they wanted to ask you, than I've ever gotten on
- any star.
-
- BG: Oh-h-h, god, tell 'em I love 'em and thank them from the bottom of
- my heart.
-
- CR: Well, they love your writing too! Now, what about Tony? A lot of
- folks are e-mailing me saying ''Cindi, it's gotta be Tony''.
-
- BG: (slight, slight pause) Yeah?
-
- [oh please...let's not give the man any ideas here.]
-
- CR: Seriously.
-
- BG: Well you know what, Cindi? I'll tell you this much: The 'whodunnit'
- part of this story is probably the least important part.
-
- [translation: the rapist is the tin man's evil twin brother.]
-
- Liz's rape is gonna have incredible implications for a whole bunch of
- our characters that you don't even realize right now. For instance, out
- of this one story, a family is going to implode,
-
- [HAS to be the spencers, especially if they really ARE going to bring up
- the luke/laura rape thing. lucky's gonna FLIP.]
-
- a romance is gonna blossom,
-
- [oh PLEASE don't let this be robin/nik. and y'know, i don't think it
- will be. i think guza is pretty committed to the whole robin/jason
- story still. MY hope would be lucky/lizzie--even though for years i
- wanted lucky/emily. my ideal situation here? lucky realizes he's been
- drooling after the wrong webber...as does nikolas...lucky pairs up with
- lizzie, nik with emily, and sarah gets shipped to bosnia. hey...a girl
- can dream, can't she? :)]
-
- and what is already an on-going battle is gonna escalate into a
- full-blown warfare.
-
- [spencer-cassadine. we all know guza has a soft spot for that one.]
-
- It's a much bigger story than just two or three characters!
-
- CR: Oh, Bob, you know I love scoop like that! I just love it! Ooh, then
- I won't go there! Let's just move on because that's some good stuff
- right there and I was going in the wrong direction. Oh, I'm so glad you
- told me. Now, we all know that AJ is the father of Carly's baby.
- How...Do we have any idea how that's going to play out, at all?
-
- BG: Yeah....the first interesting thing, there's some big stuff coming
- up, in fact in about 2 weeks. But Jason, as you can see, is getting
- very, VERY involved with this baby, and you're gonna see the lenghts to
- which he will go to protect Michael, you'll see exactly what he will do
- and exactly what it's gonna mean for the Robin/Carly/Jason triangle.
-
- [ummm, excuse me....the robin/carly/jason triangle? WHAT triangle???
- jason doesn't love carly--carly doesn't love jason--by definition,
- THERE'S NO TRIANGLE HERE. if anything, it's a robin/jason/MICHAEL
- triangle. puh-LEEZE tell me that's not where we're headed with this?]
-
- CR: Oh, interesting. Oh, and one last quick thing: Carly and Bobbi...I
- understand they are eventually going to get together.
-
- BG: Yeah! in the year 2012 we're projecting right now!
-
- [based on the rate that this story has progressed...that's just about
- right.]
-
- CR: (laughs) I'm lovin' it! Bob, we're out of time and I know how busy
- you are right now, and I really appreciate you taking a couple of
- minutes with us. I'm gonna come down in March, and stop by and say
- 'hi'.
-
- BG: Do it, Cindi, I look forward to it.
-
- ****************************************
-
- that's it for me for now!
-
- julie
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- From: Mike Boychuk <dboychuk@direct.ca>
- Subject: Re: GH/PC: GH/PC- Bob Guza on NWA (spoiler)
- Date: 19 Feb 1998 11:28:57 -0800
-
- At 02:18 PM 19/02/98 -0500, you wrote:
- >At 03:32 PM 2/18/98 -0800, Mike Boychuk wrote:
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- >Any concrete news about a return for either of them?
-
- None, but he did say they were pretty much begging Genie and they'll never
- recast Sonny, even if Maurice doesnt want to come back.
-
- >
- >It *does* seem obvious, doesn't it?
- >
- >I'm not sure I have an opinion on Robin and Nik, though. I can't stand
- >Sarah, and it's obvious that Nik is going to be in town for quite a while,
- >so I suppose the Robin/Nik angle had to be tried. I wonder how Jason would
- >react...
- >
- >I'm constantly bewildered by ages, btw. Just how old are these characters
- >supposed to be? It doesn't really matter, but I'm just curious.
-
- I think Nik is about 16 or 17 and Robin would be 20...But thats just a
- guess, what really threw me was Mr. Murty's class...Nik is older than Lucky
- who is older than Sarah, who is Lizzie's older sister. And putting them in
- the same class, would mean they're in the same grade? Well the teen
- storyline wasnt very good then.
- >
- >
- Mike
- >
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- From: "Julie Saker" <jesaker@hotmail.com>
- Subject: GH/PC: GH scoops and SPOILERS
- Date: 19 Feb 1998 11:43:40 PST
-
- i shamelessly cut and paste these from someone else's web page...
-
- enjoy!
-
- julie
-
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-
- WEEK OF FEBRUARY 23-27, 1998
-
- courtesy of Soap Opera Weekly, Soap Opera Update, Soap Opera News,
- Soap Opera Magazine and other sources!
-
- Plus Articles:
- "Liz's rape ordeal continues"
- and
- "Stefan will not answer Nikolas' questions about Laura"
- and
- "Jax meets with one of Jason's "boys," while Brenda throws Jax
- with a very important question"
-
- Important Stuff:
-
- MONDAY: Carly learns that Robin knows the truth and may not keep her
- secret.
-
- TUESDAY: Mac learns why Tess has been holding him hostage - she plans to
- frame him for the murder.
-
- WEDNESDAY: Alan may not be able to hide his pill addiction, as two more
- people find out.
-
- THURSDAY: Jason undergoes a transformation.
-
- FRIDAY: Brenda asks Jax a very important question. But her forwardness
- may just backfire ... and then where will she be?
-
-
-
- More Stuff:
-
- Katherine's gift to Stefan and his refusal to answer Nikolas' questions
- have Nikolas worried about Stefan's feelings for Laura.
-
- Liz tells Audrey the truth about her attack; Bobbie steps in when Audrey
- isn't there for Liz.
-
- Jax rushes to Brenda's side when he hears that she's gotten a new
- modeling job.
-
- Robin and Carly discuss Michael's paternity.
-
- Tess pays Mac and Felicia a surprise visit, giving Mac a clue about her
- plan.
-
- Stefan warns Nikolas to be wary of Robin.
-
- Jax continues his vendetta against Jason; Ned and Justus offer Jax a few
- helful hints.
-
- A confident A.J. stands up to Emily and Ned on his first day back on the
- job at ELQ.
-
- Carly takes Jason shopping.
-
- Brenda makes a request of Jax.
-
- Tess' cronies have their eyes on Jax.
-
-
- The FOLLOWING week:
-
- Tony cooks up a new plan
- Mac and Felicia's "relationship" takes a new turn.
- Nikolas has a breakthrough.
- Startling revelations rock two families.
-
-
- Liz's rape ordeal continues
-
- Liz isn't the only one who has to face the consequences of her rape.
- This week on GH she tells her sister and her grandmother, both of whom
- have strong reactions to the news.
-
- Sarah feels guilty because the original plan had been for Liz to be
- at the Valentine's Dance. "Sarah and Lucky discuss it," Rebecca Herbst
- (Liz) says, "and he tells her, "I was supposed to go to the dance with
- Liz, but I went with you instead.' So now Sarah feels responsible as
- well, because if it hadn't been for the two of them, Liz would have been
- at the dance, safe and sound."
-
- Later, Liz is forced to tell Audrey what happened. Initially, Liz
- only tells her she lost her bracelet, but when Lucky finds it and brings
- it to her, she admits the truth. Audrey has an odd reaction: When Bobbie
- finally convinces Liz to have an HIV test, Audrey refuses to accompany
- her to the hospital.
-
- "I'm excited that this has happened to Liz,' Herbst says. "As a
- character, she didn't have the much background. Her parents are in
- Bosnia, they're doctors, they left her at 14. That's all we knew. And
- now, even the littlest scenes I do, there is this huge dimension to Liz
- that I can pull from. We are all being let in on this personal crisis,
- and now, from here on out, everybody's going to always think back to
- that."
-
-
- Stefan will not answer Nikolas' questions about Laura
-
- Katherine's gift of a stone bench brings Stefan's fond memories of
- Laura to the surfae once again. Nikolas tries to get the truth about
- Laura out of his uncle, but Stefan firmly refuses to answer the young
- man's prying questions.
-
- When Nikolas finds the portrait of Laura hidden in the attic, he
- begins to believe that what Helena is saying about Stefan's obsession
- with Laura may be true. But when challenged, Stefan defends his
- actions and declares that Helena's claim is ludicrous.
-
-
-
- Jax meets with one of Jason's "boys," while Brenda throws Jax with a
- very important question
-
- Fed up with the dock-project delays and the loss of hundreds of
- millions of dollars the delays could cause, Jax takes action this week.
- "He is beginning to show the Jacks family colors," explains Ingo
- Rademacher (Jax).
-
- The fly in the ointment is Jason, who runs the docks. Jax confronts
- Ned as to why he has not met with Jason about this project. He accuses
- Ned of breaking the cardinal rule in business - allowing personal
- feelings to interfere with an objective. Ned turns it around on Jax and
- suggests that Jax has confused the issue by projecting his hatred for
- Sonny onto Jason.
-
- The bottom line for Jax is that he wants the situation rectified, and
- he tells Ned he will do whatever it takes to resolve it. Interpreting
- Jax's statement as a threat on Jason's life, Ned goes to Jason to warn
- him. But Jax has his own plan, and meets with Sam, one of Jason's
- "boys."
-
- "He does this really tricky thing," Rademacher says. "What it amounts
- to is a situation where Jax goes to one person and says, 'He said this
- about you,' then goes to that person and says, 'he said that about you.'
- "
-
- Sam confides to Jax that Jason will soon be out of the way, at which
- point Jax tells Jason there is a traitor in his midst. It's a win-win
- situation for Jax. "If Sam kills Jason, great. If Jason kills the other
- guy, then Jason thinks he owes one to Jax for warning him," Rademacher
- explains. "Either way, there will hopefully be movement on the project."
-
- Look for Sam to confront Jason by week's end. Meanwhile, Brenda tells
- Robin she has a new job and a surprise for Jax. Learning of Brenda's
- photo shoot, a fearful Jax races to her side. When he reaches
- Brenda, she is surprisingly calm but throws Jax by what she asks him.
-
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- From: Maia <maia@ap.net>
- Subject: Re: GH/PC: Robin and Nik
- Date: 19 Feb 1998 16:25:28 -0800
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- >good point, but...unless nik suddenly turns out to be hiv+, i don't see
- >any circumstance, EVER, under which robin would have sex with him
- >anyway.
-
- Being HIV+ didn't stop Robin from sleeping with Jason. Repeatedly, in fact.
-
- And even if he were HIV+, too, it wouldn't actually change anything. Two
- people who are both HIV+ can reinfect each other, making themselves worse,
- and speeding the progression of the disease.
-
-
- Maia Shea <maia@mbay.net>
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- From: "Julie Saker" <jesaker@hotmail.com>
- Subject: Re:Re: GH/PC: Robin and Nik
- Date: 20 Feb 1998 06:26:13 PST
-
- maia wrote:
-
- >Being HIV+ didn't stop Robin from sleeping with Jason. Repeatedly, in
- fact.
-
- really? i don't think so...unless we're using different definitions of
- "sleeping with." i agree they had some sort of sexual relationship, but
- i'm almost POSITIVE they never "slept together" in terms of having
- actual sex (which is what i was talking about, in terms of the statutory
- rape discussion). i know jason wanted to, desperately, but robin
- wouldn't take the risk. i seem to remember jason even talked to alan,
- and read all sorts of medical journals, to try and convince robin it
- would be safe, but she wouldn't think of it. am i wrong about that?
-
- >And even if he were HIV+, too, it wouldn't actually change anything.
- Two
- >people who are both HIV+ can reinfect each other, making themselves
- worse,
- >and speeding the progression of the disease.
-
- well, that's true i guess. all i really meant was that i don't see
- robin having sex with anyone, ever again, unless that person is also hiv
- positive. otherwise i don't think she'd even CONSIDER it. unless alan
- cures her one of these days, of course! :)
-
- julie
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- From: "Julie Saker" <jesaker@hotmail.com>
- Subject: GH/PC: Re: GH teen ages
- Date: 20 Feb 1998 06:49:04 PST
-
- cagey wrote:
-
- >I'm constantly bewildered by ages, btw. Just how old are these
- characters
- >supposed to be? It doesn't really matter, but I'm just curious.
-
- i think we've had this conversation before, and never really came to a
- satisfactory answer, because tptb have screwed up their timeline so
- much. all i can say for sure is...taking lucky, nik, em, sarah, lizzie,
- and robin...is that robin is the oldest, and is in her (i think?)
- sophomore year of college, which i'd say makes her around 19-ish. nik i
- believe is second-oldest, since he HAS to be older than lucky, since
- laura didn't have lucky before the cassadines kidnapped her and took her
- to the island. i don't know what year that was, though, and i don't
- suppose it matters because i don't think it's accurate. he drives, and
- has been doing college-level work with his tutors even though he's still
- technically high school age, so i'd guess him to be 17. lucky HAS to be
- at least a year younger--making him either 15 or 16. i think em is
- around his age, whatever that is (they never DID specify which birthday
- she just celebrated). and i think, back at the beginning, that they
- said lizzie is 15 and sarah is 16. and yes, having all these siblings
- in the same english class was more than a tad ridiculous!
-
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- From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
- Subject: Re:Re: GH/PC: Robin and Nik
- Date: 20 Feb 1998 08:28:49 -0800
-
- At 06:26 AM 2/20/98 PST, Julie Saker wrote:
- >
- >really? i don't think so...unless we're using different definitions of
- >"sleeping with." i agree they had some sort of sexual relationship, but
- >i'm almost POSITIVE they never "slept together" in terms of having
- >actual sex
-
- I could have sworn they did. Hmm... that's a good question, then. I was
- absolutely positive they had.
-
- Taiyin
- "By all means, please, sacrifice me on the altar of your amusement.
- It's the least I can contribute to your evening." -- Kevin Collins, GH
-
- -
-
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- From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
- Subject: Re: GH/PC: Re: GH teen ages
- Date: 20 Feb 1998 08:44:01 -0800
-
- At 06:49 AM 2/20/98 PST, Julie Saker wrote:
- >and robin...is that robin is the oldest, and is in her (i think?)
- >sophomore year of college, which i'd say makes her around 19-ish.
-
- Except that she actually took a year off school to stay home when Stone was
- dying. So she should ACTUALLY be 20/21-ish. Though, they had Sonny say
- she was 19 last summer (which I only remember because it irritated me at
- the time).
-
- >nik i
- >believe is second-oldest, since he HAS to be older than lucky, since
- >laura didn't have lucky before the cassadines kidnapped her and took her
- >to the island.
-
- Right. My problem with all of that is that there is NO WAY IN THE WORLD I
- buy that Tyler Christopher is playing a 17 year old. And honestly, I think
- that's why I wouldn't mind a Nik/Robin pairing (obviously it has to be
- handled well), because it is distracting, annoying and totally impossible
- to me to try and swallow Nik as only being 17.
-
- >lucky HAS to be
- >at least a year younger--making him either 15 or 16. i think em is
- >around his age, whatever that is (they never DID specify which birthday
- >she just celebrated).
-
- Not on her birthday, they didn't (they were too busy focusing on abduction
- and other sundry felonies). But last fall Em had a line about it only
- being "a few months" before she could drive, so I think it's a pretty safe
- bet that she's probably 16.
-
- >and i think, back at the beginning, that they
- >said lizzie is 15 and sarah is 16. and yes, having all these siblings
- >in the same english class was more than a tad ridiculous!
-
- One of those interviews (I think) had Becky Herbst refering to Lizzie as
- 14. Even if that WAS the original plan, I think they probably refigured
- her age -- even before this storyline. Aside from the fact that I don't
- buy Becky playing a 14 year old anymore than I buy Tyler playing a 17 year
- old, I think between this storyline and the fact that they seem to be
- trying to progress these kids into "bigger" circumstances (in general), I
- doubt they'd leave her so young. I don't think a lot of people could
- stomach all that teen angst for that long.
-
- So I'd probably say that Lizzie is probably 15 or 16 and Sarah would be
- about a year older. I think Em, Lucky and Lizzie are probably all about
- the same age; Nik and Sarah are probably the same age; and Robin isn't even
- really close.
-
- Taiyin
- "By all means, please, sacrifice me on the altar of your amusement.
- It's the least I can contribute to your evening." -- Kevin Collins, GH
-
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- From: "Julie Saker" <jesaker@hotmail.com>
- Subject: Re: GH/PC: Robin and Jason
- Date: 20 Feb 1998 11:39:21 PST
-
- i wrote (regarding robin and jason):
-
- >>i agree they had some sort of sexual relationship, but
- >>i'm almost POSITIVE they never "slept together" in terms of having
- >>actual sex
-
- and taiyin replied:
-
- >I could have sworn they did. Hmm... that's a good question, then. I
- >was absolutely positive they had.
-
- well ok, now i'm curious. anybody else out there have a thought on this
- one? i distinctly remember, at first, at least, robin being STRONGLY
- against the two of them having sex. too dangerous, she didn't want to
- be responsible for getting him infected, etc. jason, who didn't care if
- he lived or died really, didn't see any such problem, and went to great
- lengths (even going as far as to confer with alan, who he REALLY
- despised) about whether it would be safe. i especially remember this
- being an issue around the time robin went on the protocol, because jason
- figured if it would lower the virus to undetectable levels, then it must
- be safe for the two of them to sleep together. unfortunately, the
- medical journals he consulted, and alan, and robin, all told him no.
-
- before that point, they DEFINITELY hadn't--because i remember when carly
- realized that jason and robin were an item, at the nurses ball where she
- collapsed during her speech and jason carried her off-stage, carly had a
- FIT, because she and jason had been sleeping together, and he had never
- told her he was involved with someone who was hiv positive. so carly
- yelled at him, and he replied that it wasn't an issue because he and
- robin weren't having sex.
-
- then, after jason had really been on a crusade for a while, i seem to
- remember robin breaking down and pointing out that this wasn't any
- easier for her than it was for him, but that she had buried all the
- people she intended to bury in her life, and she absolutely wouldn't be
- responsible for infecting jason, no matter how much she wanted to be
- physical with him too. and i THINK, at that point, they agreed that
- they could be physical without being reckless, which is when they
- started having a sexual relationship of SOME type--but, i'm almost
- positive i remember reading (at that time) an interview with somebody
- connected with the show who said this storyline was really going to
- explore ways of being in a meaningful relationship without having sexual
- intercourse. of course, they never got specific about that on-screen, i
- don't think, so...i guess i don't really know. but i REALLY thought
- they hadn't. am i crazy?
-
- julie
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- From: "Julie Saker" <jesaker@hotmail.com>
- Subject: GH/PC: more PC stuff from yesterday...
- Date: 20 Feb 1998 11:56:18 PST
-
- two more things i forgot to comment about earlier...
-
- after some definite progress in this regard (largely due to eve), i'm
- REALLY beginning to HATE HATE HATE chris again!!!!! how DARE he get
- such glee out of interfering in what is CLEARLY a life-or-death
- situation??? that preview, of him putting together that note? what an
- evil, EVIL thing to do! and for what POSSIBLE reason??? y'know, i
- think this is very similar to what taiyin said earlier about rex--and i
- think this is a big problem with the villains on pc in general, vs. the
- historically better villains on gh. the motivations for the pc villains
- are SO weak as to be laughable, except that the things they're doing
- because of these motivations are so heinous, that you just CAN'T laugh.
- instead, you wind up just really HATING them, whereas on gh i think the
- villains tended to be more of the "love to hate them" type. ok, so
- chris is going to poke his nose into a situation that could easily get
- matt killed, TO WIN THE QUARTERMAINE RESIDENCY??? huh? that's even
- WORSE than "doing all this for some dead woman's money."
- GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.
-
- and on another note entirely...way to butcher one of my favorite short
- stories, scotty! i know, i know, it's only a half hour show, and the
- whole plot to "the lady or the tiger" would have taken QUITE a while to
- explain...but scott's description was almost a sacrilege! i know, i'm
- so picky...but what can i say, i was an english major! :)
-
- julie
-
- p.s. ANOTHER thing that pissed me off, even though it's COMPLETELY
- unrelated to gh/pc...when i logged on to hotmail to write this message,
- they had a BIG banner across the top telling me who wins tonight's
- figure skating...news that i had successfully managed to avoid all day,
- because i REALLY didn't want to know ahead of time (this being the one
- and only winter olympics event i have ANY interest in seeing). don't
- worry, i won't ruin it for all of you...BUT I'M REALLY PISSED ABOUT THIS
- NOW!!!!!
-
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-
- From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
- Subject: Re: GH/PC: Robin and Jason
- Date: 20 Feb 1998 11:49:28 -0800
-
- At 11:39 AM 2/20/98 PST, Julie Saker wrote:
- >before that point, they DEFINITELY hadn't--because i remember when carly
- >realized that jason and robin were an item, at the nurses ball where she
- >collapsed during her speech and jason carried her off-stage, carly had a
- >FIT, because she and jason had been sleeping together, and he had never
- >told her he was involved with someone who was hiv positive.
-
- This part I remember.
-
- >physical with him too. and i THINK, at that point, they agreed that
- >they could be physical without being reckless,
-
- And that's what I remember, too.
-
- >explore ways of being in a meaningful relationship without having sexual
- >intercourse. of course, they never got specific about that on-screen, i
- >don't think, so...i guess i don't really know. but i REALLY thought
- >they hadn't. am i crazy?
-
- Hhmmm... strange. Usually soaps don't do vague. It could be that I just
- read more into it than was there at the time.
-
- Now I am really curious, though.
-
- Taiyin
- "By all means, please, sacrifice me on the
- altar of your amusement. It's the least I
- can contribute to your evening." -- Kevin
- <taiyin@taiyin.net> http://www.taiyin.net/
-
- -
-
-
-
- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- From: "Donald K Gooden" <dkgooden@email.msn.com>
- Subject: GH/PC: GH: spoilers part one
- Date: 20 Feb 1998 21:42:02 -0500
-
- Spoilers for the week of Feb 23
- Jamila
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- WEEK OF FEBRUARY 23-27, 1998
- courtesy of Soap Opera Weekly, Soap Opera Update, Soap Opera News,
- Soap Opera Magazine and other sources!
-
-
-
-
- Plus Articles:
- "Liz's rape ordeal continues"
- and
- "Stefan will not answer Nikolas' questions about Laura"
- and
- "Jax meets with one of Jason's "boys," while Brenda throws Jax with a very
- important question"
- Important Stuff:
-
- MONDAY: Carly learns that Robin knows the truth and may not keep her secret.
- TUESDAY: Mac learns why Tess has been holding him hostage - she plans to
- frame him for the murder.
- WEDNESDAY: Alan may not be able to hide his pill addiction, as two more
- people find out.
- THURSDAY: Jason undergoes a transformation.
- FRIDAY: Brenda asks Jax a very important question. But her forwardness may
- just backfire ... and then where will she be?
-
- More Stuff:
-
- Katherine's gift to Stefan and his refusal to answer Nikolas' questions have
- Nikolas worried about Stefan's feelings for Laura.
- Liz tells Audrey the truth about her attack; Bobbie steps in when Audrey
- isn't there for Liz.
- Jax rushes to Brenda's side when he hears that she's gotten a new modeling
- job.
- Robin and Carly discuss Michael's paternity.
- Tess pays Mac and Felicia a surprise visit, giving Mac a clue about her
- plan.
- Stefan warns Nikolas to be wary of Robin.
- Jax continues his vendetta against Jason; Ned and Justus offer Jax a few
- helful hints.
- A confident A.J. stands up to Emily and Ned on his first day back on the job
- at ELQ.
- Carly takes Jason shopping.
- Brenda makes a request of Jax.
- Tess' cronies have their eyes on Jax.
-
-
- The FOLLOWING week:
-
- Tony cooks up a new plan
- Mac and Felicia's "relationship" takes a new turn.
- Nikolas has a breakthrough.
- Startling revelations rock two families.
-
-
- Liz's rape ordeal continues
-
- Liz isn't the only one who has to face the consequences of her rape. This
- week on GH she tells her sister and her grandmother, both of whom have
- strong reactions to the news.
-
- Sarah feels guilty because the original plan had been for Liz to be at
- the Valentine's Dance. "Sarah and Lucky discuss it," Rebecca Herbst (Liz)
- says, "and he tells her, "I was supposed to go to the dance with Liz, but I
- went with you instead.' So now Sarah feels responsible as well, because if
- it hadn't been for the two of them, Liz would have been at the dance, safe
- and sound."
-
- Later, Liz is forced to tell Audrey what happened. Initially, Liz only
- tells her she lost her bracelet, but when Lucky finds it and brings it to
- her, she admits the truth. Audrey has an odd reaction: When Bobbie finally
- convinces Liz to have an HIV test, Audrey refuses to accompany her to the
- hospital.
-
- "I'm excited that this has happened to Liz,' Herbst says. "As a
- character, she didn't have the much background. Her parents are in Bosnia,
- they're doctors, they left her at 14. That's all we knew. And now, even the
- littlest scenes I do, there is this huge dimension to Liz that I can pull
- from. We are all being let in on this personal crisis, and now, from here on
- out, everybody's going to always think back to that."
-
-
-
- Stefan will not answer Nikolas' questions about Laura
-
- Katherine's gift of a stone bench brings Stefan's fond memories of Laura
- to the surfae once again. Nikolas tries to get the truth about Laura out of
- his uncle, but Stefan firmly refuses to answer the young man's prying
- questions.
-
- When Nikolas finds the portrait of Laura hidden in the attic, he begins
- to believe that what Helena is saying about Stefan's obsession with Laura
- may be true. But when challenged, Stefan defends his actions and declares
- that Helena's claim is ludicrous.
-
-
-
- Jax meets with one of Jason's "boys," while Brenda throws Jax with a very
- important question
-
- Fed up with the dock-project delays and the loss of hundreds of millions
- of dollars the delays could cause, Jax takes action this week. "He is
- beginning to show the Jacks family colors," explains Ingo Rademacher (Jax).
-
- The fly in the ointment is Jason, who runs the docks. Jax confronts Ned
- as to why he has not met with Jason about this project. He accuses Ned of
- breaking the cardinal rule in business - allowing personal feelings to
- interfere with an objective. Ned turns it around on Jax and suggests that
- Jax has confused the issue by projecting his hatred for Sonny onto Jason.
-
- The bottom line for Jax is that he wants the situation rectified, and he
- tells Ned he will do whatever it takes to resolve it. Interpreting Jax's
- statement as a threat on Jason's life, Ned goes to Jason to warn him. But
- Jax has his own plan, and meets with Sam, one of Jason's "boys."
-
- "He does this really tricky thing," Rademacher says. "What it amounts to
- is a situation where Jax goes to one person and says, 'He said this about
- you,' then goes to that person and says, 'he said that about you.' "
-
- Sam confides to Jax that Jason will soon be out of the way, at which
- point Jax tells Jason there is a traitor in his midst. It's a win-win
- situation for Jax. "If Sam kills Jason, great. If Jason kills the other guy,
- then Jason thinks he owes one to Jax for warning him," Rademacher explains.
- "Either way, there will hopefully be movement on the project."
-
- Look for Sam to confront Jason by week's end. Meanwhile, Brenda tells
- Robin she has a new job and a surprise for Jax. Learning of Brenda's photo
- shoot, a fearful Jax races to her side. When he reaches Brenda, she is
- surprisingly calm but throws Jax by what she asks him.
-
-
-
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- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- From: "Donald K Gooden" <dkgooden@email.msn.com>
- Subject: GH/PC: What torture!!!!
- Date: 21 Feb 1998 14:57:05 -0500
-
- Oh God. You are all killing me. The last time I saw Port Charles was three
- weeks ago. My VCR is broken. If I am at home and I press record then it will
- sometimes work. However, it won't work at all if I set the timer. I am not
- home during the days, so I can only see the show when I have a day off of
- school. This has been my predicament for several months now. It is quite
- funny actually, because I have a Lucy and Kevin website, but I can't even
- watch the show. I have been reading all your posts about Kevin and Lucy, and
- I have seen the promos for this upcoming week. I tell you I am dying...Is it
- better for me to read all of your posts and go on-line and find out about
- the shows I've missed, torturing myself,or is it better to not think about
- K and L, believing in the idea that ignorance is bliss.
-
- http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/Set/1625/JandJ.html
- Kevin and Lucy: The Wonder Year
- (oh the torture of it all)
- Jamila
-
-
-
-
- -
-
-
-
- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- From: AnneBPT@aol.com
- Subject: Re: GH/PC: Robin and Nik
- Date: 22 Feb 1998 21:13:09 EST
-
- In a message dated 98-02-20 11:40:55 EST, you write:
-
- <<
- >
- >really? i don't think so...unless we're using different definitions of
- >"sleeping with." i agree they had some sort of sexual relationship, but
- >i'm almost POSITIVE they never "slept together" in terms of having
- >actual sex
-
- I could have sworn they did. Hmm... that's a good question, then. I was
- absolutely positive they had.
- >>
-
- I'm totally sure they did not actually sleep together. They did things an
- alternate way. I remember a lot of talk online about how mesy it must have
- been.
-
- Robin refused insisting on not putting Jason at risk. I think that is the
- stand they will make with her from now on. They have written themselves into
- a corner with this, they don't want to let her sleep with anyone, no matter
- what precautions are taken. They don't want any young viewer to put
- themselves at risk because "Robin and Jason did and he's fine." It's the same
- reason they had her become HIV positive in the first place.
-
- So like someone said, unless she meets else who is HIV positive that is how it
- will be. Even then, I think they worry about different strains of HIV, so it
- still might be a problem.
-
- An interesting situationhas arisen though, since Robin is on the latest drug
- cocktail and the virus is undetectable in her blood right now. I wonder how
- risky safe sex would be for her partner at this point? I doubt we will ever
- find out.....
-
-
- Anne
-
- -
-
-
-
- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
- Subject: Re: GH/PC: Robin and Nik
- Date: 23 Feb 1998 09:50:51 -0800
-
- At 09:13 PM 2/22/98 EST, AnneBPT@aol.com wrote:
- >Robin refused insisting on not putting Jason at risk. I think that is the
- >stand they will make with her from now on. They have written themselves into
- >a corner with this, they don't want to let her sleep with anyone, no matter
- >what precautions are taken.
-
- <sigh> Frankly, I think that's more irresponsible than them having her and
- Jason sleep together and *not* have him end up HIV+.
-
- >They don't want any young viewer to put
- >themselves at risk because "Robin and Jason did and he's fine."
-
- Well, I can understand that. But the fact remains that there ARE
- reasonable precautions to take. No, nothing is 100%. But condoms,
- combined with the fact that it is actually more difficult for a woman to
- infect a man, make it highly unrealistic that they just won't ever sleep
- together.
-
- They really are trying to turn her into a saint, I guess. A sexless,
- saintly, unich. So much for showing that she can lead a "healthy, normal
- life."
-
- >It's the same
- >reason they had her become HIV positive in the first place.
-
- Yeah, but she and Stone didn't use protection at least once (though, after
- the fact, it was implied that they didn't use protection repeatedly).
-
- Taiyin
- "By all means, please, sacrifice me on the
- altar of your amusement. It's the least I
- can contribute to your evening." -- Kevin
- <taiyin@taiyin.net> http://www.taiyin.net/
-
- -
-
-
-
- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- From: "Julie Saker" <jesaker@hotmail.com>
- Subject: Re: Re: GH/PC: Robin and Nik
- Date: 23 Feb 1998 11:40:34 PST
-
- anne wrote:
-
- >>They don't want any young viewer to put
- >>themselves at risk because "Robin and Jason did and he's fine."
-
- thanks, anne--that, in a nutshell, is EXACTLY why i thought they HADN'T
- slept together, but apparently my brain wasn't working well enough for
- me to be able to articulate that at the time! :)
-
- and taiyin wrote:
-
- >Well, I can understand that. But the fact remains that there ARE
- >reasonable precautions to take. No, nothing is 100%. But condoms,
- >combined with the fact that it is actually more difficult for a
- >woman to infect a man, make it highly unrealistic that they just
- >won't ever sleep together.
- >
- >They really are trying to turn her into a saint, I guess. A sexless,
- >saintly, unich. So much for showing that she can lead a "healthy,
- >normal life."
-
- well...i see your point. but at the same time, i think if they WERE to
- allow robin to have a sex life it would have to be handled very, VERY
- carefully. because, especially due to the age of the characters
- involved, there would really be a huge risk of a large segment of the
- viewing population being too young to necessarily listen to and
- understand the reasoning behind why and HOW it's okay to have sex with
- someone who's hiv positive. i think tptb are afraid, and rightfully so,
- i think, that they "why" and "how" would get lost, and all that people
- would walk away with is "it's okay," and i'm sure they don't want that
- on their conscience.
-
- not that i don't think they could do it, and do a responsible job with
- it--because i thought the way they handled the robin/stone story was
- just wonderful. but in a lot of ways that one was much easier to
- handle. that was a cautionary tale--do this and something bad could
- happen to you--and this would be almost the reverse.
-
- >Yeah, but she and Stone didn't use protection at least once (though,
- >after the fact, it was implied that they didn't use protection
- >repeatedly).
-
- i thought they portrayed it this way: stone got tested and was negative,
- robin went on the pill, and they used condoms until the pill made it
- "safe" for them not to anymore. then, it turned out that negative test,
- like robin's first tests, wasn't right because the virus hadn't shown up
- in stone's blood stream yet. the message being, what they THOUGHT was
- responsible behavior (getting tested and waiting to have unprotected sex
- until the test came back negative and they had pregnancy prevention
- taken care of) was the right thought but not enough. which, i think, is
- related to what i said above--they're trying SO hard to not take any
- chances about the wrong message getting out to young viewers, that
- they're willing to err on the side of being over-cautious rather than
- take a chance that their message would be misinterpreted.
-
- on an unrelated note, sort of...i WISH you could come sit in my
- apartment and watch "er" with my roommate and myself one thursday night,
- taiyin! i have SUCH fights with him over jeannie boulet (who, if you
- don't watch, is a physician's asst. who is hiv positive, and didn't tell
- anyone at work--initially, at least--because she didn't want to lose her
- job). rob (my roommate) TEARS this woman apart, calling her all sorts
- of names that i can't print here, and saying she's a horrible person,
- basically, for wanting to continue to live her life. we had a
- particularly heated discussion after the episode where she stuck her
- hand (gloved, of course) into a patient's very large open wound to save
- his life, when no one else was around and if she hadn't done it the
- patient would have died. (she had made a deal with her supervisor that
- she wouldn't do anything that risky) rob said she shouldn't have done
- it--i said "would it be better to KNOW the patient would die, rather
- than take the slim chance that you MIGHT make him hiv positive by saving
- his life?" he said, "well, if she had QUIT like she SHOULD have, she
- wouldn't have been IN that situation!" infuriating, let me tell you!
- this is the same boy who, as a golfer, was vehemently opposed to that
- disabled golfer being allowed to use a cart, because it would give him
- an "unfair advantage," but who also wouldn't accept my argument of,
- "well then, let EVERYONE use a cart if they want to" because that would
- "change the game. what if a batter in baseball couldn't run and wanted
- to use a cart to get around the bases?" i told him, "you know, rob,
- it's a good thing you were born healthy, now isn't it..."
- GRRRRRRRRRRRRR! i'd like to see YOU take a crack at him! (i'm getting
- sick of being the "designated liberal"!) :)
-
- julie
-
-
-
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- From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
- Subject: Re: Re: GH/PC: Robin and Nik
- Date: 23 Feb 1998 12:09:22 -0800
-
- At 11:40 AM 2/23/98 PST, Julie Saker wrote:
- >
- >well...i see your point. but at the same time, i think if they WERE to
- >allow robin to have a sex life it would have to be handled very, VERY
- >carefully.
-
- Of course. But I think it would be much more of a service (not to mention
- more realistic) to explore the ways they can still have sex, but make it as
- safe as possible. I think that, while abstainance is the safest, it is
- really pretty unrealistic to expect that every person who is HIV+, and in a
- serious relationship, is going to abstain from sex for the rest of their
- lives... or until there is a cure.
-
- >not that i don't think they could do it, and do a responsible job with
- >it--because i thought the way they handled the robin/stone story was
- >just wonderful.
-
- And that is the other half of why I think they should do it. They did a
- VERY responsible job of the entire situation from the very beginning. And
- I think to let it go now *is* irresponsible.
-
- >i thought they portrayed it this way: stone got tested and was negative,
- >robin went on the pill, and they used condoms until the pill made it
- >"safe" for them not to anymore.
-
- Right.
-
- >the message being, what they THOUGHT was
- >responsible behavior (getting tested and waiting to have unprotected sex
- >until the test came back negative and they had pregnancy prevention
- >taken care of) was the right thought but not enough.
-
- Yes, but it's not an accurate comparison, really. They were living in
- total ignorance last time. That isn't the case anymore at all.
-
- >related to what i said above--they're trying SO hard to not take any
- >chances about the wrong message getting out to young viewers, that
- >they're willing to err on the side of being over-cautious rather than
- >take a chance that their message would be misinterpreted.
-
- I guess. I think my point is that doing it this way is like saying, "If we
- don't allow teenagers access to condoms, then they just won't have sex." I
- think it's a very naive approach that does more harm than good, IMO.
-
- >on an unrelated note, sort of...i WISH you could come sit in my
- >apartment and watch "er" with my roommate and myself one thursday night,
- >taiyin!
-
- Argh! Well, as we've noticed before, your roommate and I are probably much
- better off on opposite coasts. ;-)
-
- Taiyin
- "By all means, please, sacrifice me on the
- altar of your amusement. It's the least I
- can contribute to your evening." -- Kevin
- <taiyin@taiyin.net> http://www.taiyin.net/
-
- -
-
-
-
- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
- Subject: Re: Re: GH/PC: Robin and Nik
- Date: 23 Feb 1998 12:00:34 -0800
-
- At 11:40 AM 2/23/98 PST, Julie Saker wrote:
- >
- >well...i see your point. but at the same time, i think if they WERE to
- >allow robin to have a sex life it would have to be handled very, VERY
- >carefully.
-
- Of course. But I think it would be much more of a service (not to mention
- more realistic) to explore the ways they can still have sex, but make it as
- safe as possible. I think that, while abstainance is the safest, it is
- really pretty unrealistic to expect that every person who is HIV+, and in a
- serious relationship, is going to abstain from sex for the rest of their
- lives... or until there is a cure.
-
- >not that i don't think they could do it, and do a responsible job with
- >it--because i thought the way they handled the robin/stone story was
- >just wonderful.
-
- And that is the other half of why I think they should do it. They did a
- VERY responsible job of the entire situation from the very beginning. And
- I think to let it go now *is* irresponsible.
-
- >i thought they portrayed it this way: stone got tested and was negative,
- >robin went on the pill, and they used condoms until the pill made it
- >"safe" for them not to anymore.
-
- Right.
-
- >the message being, what they THOUGHT was
- >responsible behavior (getting tested and waiting to have unprotected sex
- >until the test came back negative and they had pregnancy prevention
- >taken care of) was the right thought but not enough.
-
- Yes, but it's not an accurate comparison, really. They were living in
- total ignorance last time. That isn't the case anymore at all.
-
- >related to what i said above--they're trying SO hard to not take any
- >chances about the wrong message getting out to young viewers, that
- >they're willing to err on the side of being over-cautious rather than
- >take a chance that their message would be misinterpreted.
-
- I guess. I think my point is that doing it this way is like saying, "If we
- don't allow teenagers access to condoms, then they just won't have sex." I
- think it's a very ignorant approach that does more harm than good.
-
- >on an unrelated note, sort of...i WISH you could come sit in my
- >apartment and watch "er" with my roommate and myself one thursday night,
- >taiyin!
-
- Argh! Well, as we've noticed before, your roommate and I are probably much
- better off on opposite coasts. ;-)
-
- Taiyin
- "By all means, please, sacrifice me on the
- altar of your amusement. It's the least I
- can contribute to your evening." -- Kevin
- <taiyin@taiyin.net> http://www.taiyin.net/
-
- -
-
-
-
- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
- Subject: Re: Re: GH/PC: Robin and Nik
- Date: 23 Feb 1998 12:00:34 -0800
-
- At 11:40 AM 2/23/98 PST, Julie Saker wrote:
- >
- >well...i see your point. but at the same time, i think if they WERE to
- >allow robin to have a sex life it would have to be handled very, VERY
- >carefully.
-
- Of course. But I think it would be much more of a service (not to mention
- more realistic) to explore the ways they can still have sex, but make it as
- safe as possible. I think that, while abstainance is the safest, it is
- really pretty unrealistic to expect that every person who is HIV+, and in a
- serious relationship, is going to abstain from sex for the rest of their
- lives... or until there is a cure.
-
- >not that i don't think they could do it, and do a responsible job with
- >it--because i thought the way they handled the robin/stone story was
- >just wonderful.
-
- And that is the other half of why I think they should do it. They did a
- VERY responsible job of the entire situation from the very beginning. And
- I think to let it go now *is* irresponsible.
-
- >i thought they portrayed it this way: stone got tested and was negative,
- >robin went on the pill, and they used condoms until the pill made it
- >"safe" for them not to anymore.
-
- Right.
-
- >the message being, what they THOUGHT was
- >responsible behavior (getting tested and waiting to have unprotected sex
- >until the test came back negative and they had pregnancy prevention
- >taken care of) was the right thought but not enough.
-
- Yes, but it's not an accurate comparison, really. They were living in
- total ignorance last time. That isn't the case anymore at all.
-
- >related to what i said above--they're trying SO hard to not take any
- >chances about the wrong message getting out to young viewers, that
- >they're willing to err on the side of being over-cautious rather than
- >take a chance that their message would be misinterpreted.
-
- I guess. I think my point is that doing it this way is like saying, "If we
- don't allow teenagers access to condoms, then they just won't have sex." I
- think it's a very ignorant approach that does more harm than good.
-
- >on an unrelated note, sort of...i WISH you could come sit in my
- >apartment and watch "er" with my roommate and myself one thursday night,
- >taiyin!
-
- Argh! Well, as we've noticed before, your roommate and I are probably much
- better off on opposite coasts. ;-)
-
- Taiyin
- "By all means, please, sacrifice me on the
- altar of your amusement. It's the least I
- can contribute to your evening." -- Kevin
- <taiyin@taiyin.net> http://www.taiyin.net/
-
- -
-
-
-
- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- From: Taiyin <taiyin@ap.net>
- Subject: GH/PC: Apologies
- Date: 23 Feb 1998 13:54:36 -0800
-
- Xmission spazed out while I was trying to send that message, and it appears
- that it grabbed it more than once.
-
- Sorry.
-
- Taiyin, who seems to be setting some sort of listmom record for messed up
- posts lately...
-
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- From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
- Subject: Re: Re: GH/PC: Robin and Nik
- Date: 23 Feb 1998 12:00:34 -0800
-
- At 11:40 AM 2/23/98 PST, Julie Saker wrote:
- >
- >well...i see your point. but at the same time, i think if they WERE to
- >allow robin to have a sex life it would have to be handled very, VERY
- >carefully.
-
- Of course. But I think it would be much more of a service (not to mention
- more realistic) to explore the ways they can still have sex, but make it as
- safe as possible. I think that, while abstainance is the safest, it is
- really pretty unrealistic to expect that every person who is HIV+, and in a
- serious relationship, is going to abstain from sex for the rest of their
- lives... or until there is a cure.
-
- >not that i don't think they could do it, and do a responsible job with
- >it--because i thought the way they handled the robin/stone story was
- >just wonderful.
-
- And that is the other half of why I think they should do it. They did a
- VERY responsible job of the entire situation from the very beginning. And
- I think to let it go now *is* irresponsible.
-
- >i thought they portrayed it this way: stone got tested and was negative,
- >robin went on the pill, and they used condoms until the pill made it
- >"safe" for them not to anymore.
-
- Right.
-
- >the message being, what they THOUGHT was
- >responsible behavior (getting tested and waiting to have unprotected sex
- >until the test came back negative and they had pregnancy prevention
- >taken care of) was the right thought but not enough.
-
- Yes, but it's not an accurate comparison, really. They were living in
- total ignorance last time. That isn't the case anymore at all.
-
- >related to what i said above--they're trying SO hard to not take any
- >chances about the wrong message getting out to young viewers, that
- >they're willing to err on the side of being over-cautious rather than
- >take a chance that their message would be misinterpreted.
-
- I guess. I think my point is that doing it this way is like saying, "If we
- don't allow teenagers access to condoms, then they just won't have sex." I
- think it's a very ignorant approach that does more harm than good.
-
- >on an unrelated note, sort of...i WISH you could come sit in my
- >apartment and watch "er" with my roommate and myself one thursday night,
- >taiyin!
-
- Argh! Well, as we've noticed before, your roommate and I are probably much
- better off on opposite coasts. ;-)
-
- Taiyin
- "By all means, please, sacrifice me on the
- altar of your amusement. It's the least I
- can contribute to your evening." -- Kevin
- <taiyin@taiyin.net> http://www.taiyin.net/
-
- -
-
-
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-
- From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
- Subject: Re: Re: GH/PC: Robin and Nik
- Date: 23 Feb 1998 12:00:34 -0800
-
- At 11:40 AM 2/23/98 PST, Julie Saker wrote:
- >
- >well...i see your point. but at the same time, i think if they WERE to
- >allow robin to have a sex life it would have to be handled very, VERY
- >carefully.
-
- Of course. But I think it would be much more of a service (not to mention
- more realistic) to explore the ways they can still have sex, but make it as
- safe as possible. I think that, while abstainance is the safest, it is
- really pretty unrealistic to expect that every person who is HIV+, and in a
- serious relationship, is going to abstain from sex for the rest of their
- lives... or until there is a cure.
-
- >not that i don't think they could do it, and do a responsible job with
- >it--because i thought the way they handled the robin/stone story was
- >just wonderful.
-
- And that is the other half of why I think they should do it. They did a
- VERY responsible job of the entire situation from the very beginning. And
- I think to let it go now *is* irresponsible.
-
- >i thought they portrayed it this way: stone got tested and was negative,
- >robin went on the pill, and they used condoms until the pill made it
- >"safe" for them not to anymore.
-
- Right.
-
- >the message being, what they THOUGHT was
- >responsible behavior (getting tested and waiting to have unprotected sex
- >until the test came back negative and they had pregnancy prevention
- >taken care of) was the right thought but not enough.
-
- Yes, but it's not an accurate comparison, really. They were living in
- total ignorance last time. That isn't the case anymore at all.
-
- >related to what i said above--they're trying SO hard to not take any
- >chances about the wrong message getting out to young viewers, that
- >they're willing to err on the side of being over-cautious rather than
- >take a chance that their message would be misinterpreted.
-
- I guess. I think my point is that doing it this way is like saying, "If we
- don't allow teenagers access to condoms, then they just won't have sex." I
- think it's a very ignorant approach that does more harm than good.
-
- >on an unrelated note, sort of...i WISH you could come sit in my
- >apartment and watch "er" with my roommate and myself one thursday night,
- >taiyin!
-
- Argh! Well, as we've noticed before, your roommate and I are probably much
- better off on opposite coasts. ;-)
-
- Taiyin
- "By all means, please, sacrifice me on the
- altar of your amusement. It's the least I
- can contribute to your evening." -- Kevin
- <taiyin@taiyin.net> http://www.taiyin.net/
-
- -
-
-
-
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-
- From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
- Subject: Re: Re: GH/PC: Robin and Nik
- Date: 23 Feb 1998 12:00:34 -0800
-
- At 11:40 AM 2/23/98 PST, Julie Saker wrote:
- >
- >well...i see your point. but at the same time, i think if they WERE to
- >allow robin to have a sex life it would have to be handled very, VERY
- >carefully.
-
- Of course. But I think it would be much more of a service (not to mention
- more realistic) to explore the ways they can still have sex, but make it as
- safe as possible. I think that, while abstainance is the safest, it is
- really pretty unrealistic to expect that every person who is HIV+, and in a
- serious relationship, is going to abstain from sex for the rest of their
- lives... or until there is a cure.
-
- >not that i don't think they could do it, and do a responsible job with
- >it--because i thought the way they handled the robin/stone story was
- >just wonderful.
-
- And that is the other half of why I think they should do it. They did a
- VERY responsible job of the entire situation from the very beginning. And
- I think to let it go now *is* irresponsible.
-
- >i thought they portrayed it this way: stone got tested and was negative,
- >robin went on the pill, and they used condoms until the pill made it
- >"safe" for them not to anymore.
-
- Right.
-
- >the message being, what they THOUGHT was
- >responsible behavior (getting tested and waiting to have unprotected sex
- >until the test came back negative and they had pregnancy prevention
- >taken care of) was the right thought but not enough.
-
- Yes, but it's not an accurate comparison, really. They were living in
- total ignorance last time. That isn't the case anymore at all.
-
- >related to what i said above--they're trying SO hard to not take any
- >chances about the wrong message getting out to young viewers, that
- >they're willing to err on the side of being over-cautious rather than
- >take a chance that their message would be misinterpreted.
-
- I guess. I think my point is that doing it this way is like saying, "If we
- don't allow teenagers access to condoms, then they just won't have sex." I
- think it's a very ignorant approach that does more harm than good.
-
- >on an unrelated note, sort of...i WISH you could come sit in my
- >apartment and watch "er" with my roommate and myself one thursday night,
- >taiyin!
-
- Argh! Well, as we've noticed before, your roommate and I are probably much
- better off on opposite coasts. ;-)
-
- Taiyin
- "By all means, please, sacrifice me on the
- altar of your amusement. It's the least I
- can contribute to your evening." -- Kevin
- <taiyin@taiyin.net> http://www.taiyin.net/
-
- -
-
-
-
- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
- Subject: Re: Re: GH/PC: Robin and Nik
- Date: 23 Feb 1998 12:00:34 -0800
-
- At 11:40 AM 2/23/98 PST, Julie Saker wrote:
- >
- >well...i see your point. but at the same time, i think if they WERE to
- >allow robin to have a sex life it would have to be handled very, VERY
- >carefully.
-
- Of course. But I think it would be much more of a service (not to mention
- more realistic) to explore the ways they can still have sex, but make it as
- safe as possible. I think that, while abstainance is the safest, it is
- really pretty unrealistic to expect that every person who is HIV+, and in a
- serious relationship, is going to abstain from sex for the rest of their
- lives... or until there is a cure.
-
- >not that i don't think they could do it, and do a responsible job with
- >it--because i thought the way they handled the robin/stone story was
- >just wonderful.
-
- And that is the other half of why I think they should do it. They did a
- VERY responsible job of the entire situation from the very beginning. And
- I think to let it go now *is* irresponsible.
-
- >i thought they portrayed it this way: stone got tested and was negative,
- >robin went on the pill, and they used condoms until the pill made it
- >"safe" for them not to anymore.
-
- Right.
-
- >the message being, what they THOUGHT was
- >responsible behavior (getting tested and waiting to have unprotected sex
- >until the test came back negative and they had pregnancy prevention
- >taken care of) was the right thought but not enough.
-
- Yes, but it's not an accurate comparison, really. They were living in
- total ignorance last time. That isn't the case anymore at all.
-
- >related to what i said above--they're trying SO hard to not take any
- >chances about the wrong message getting out to young viewers, that
- >they're willing to err on the side of being over-cautious rather than
- >take a chance that their message would be misinterpreted.
-
- I guess. I think my point is that doing it this way is like saying, "If we
- don't allow teenagers access to condoms, then they just won't have sex." I
- think it's a very ignorant approach that does more harm than good.
-
- >on an unrelated note, sort of...i WISH you could come sit in my
- >apartment and watch "er" with my roommate and myself one thursday night,
- >taiyin!
-
- Argh! Well, as we've noticed before, your roommate and I are probably much
- better off on opposite coasts. ;-)
-
- Taiyin
- "By all means, please, sacrifice me on the
- altar of your amusement. It's the least I
- can contribute to your evening." -- Kevin
- <taiyin@taiyin.net> http://www.taiyin.net/
-
- -
-
-
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- From: "Julie Saker" <jesaker@hotmail.com>
- Subject: GH/PC: GH/War and Peace
- Date: 24 Feb 1998 06:35:35 PST
-
- AAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
-
- that's it--i have just GOT to move to a different time zone. this is
- getting UTTERLY ridiculous. yes, i know, war and peace are very
- important things--but why is it ALWAYS between 3 and 4:00??? and i
- swear, the timing of these interruptions lately...i'm CONVINCED they're
- planning this. here was yesterday's set-up...
-
- we had luke and lucky in the park, lucky finds the bracelet, luke has
- laura flashbacks, and begins to feel terribly guilty over his son's
- blind adoration. we had robin and nik, with robin telling nik he had a
- bad attitude, and asking what was stopping him from recovering. we had
- kat and bat and the ludicrous baptismal gift thing (do people really DO
- this?), and the most brilliant half-truth i've ever seen-- "in my life
- i've only loved one woman...", fade to kiss. we had jason's little
- pro-union speech (incidentally--HUH? did that come out of left field,
- or am i just nuts?). and, the crowning moment, we had the scheming
- grannies, bobbie and monica, with bobbie ultimately going up to carly,
- making idle chit-chat, and then asking, "so, what are your
- plans?"....immediately followed by the abc theme music, fade to peter
- jennings. now, i ask you, did they PLAN it that way or WHAT???
-
- and to make it even WORSE, after bill spoke, we cut back to peter
- jennings who said the following (and i quote): "we're just about at the
- end of the hour here, so we're going to fill up to the end of the hour."
- EXCUSE me? did this man just ADMIT that they're just going to use idle
- filler rather than go back to the conclusion of the show they had
- already interrupted??? EVIL EVIL MAN!!!
-
- so, once again, i am throwing myself on the mercy of the
- west-of-the-mississippi contingent. did anybody get the second half of
- gh yesterday and care to fill the east-coast-types in on what we missed?
- thanks in advance!
-
- julie
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- From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
- Subject: Re: GH/PC: GH/War and Peace
- Date: 24 Feb 1998 08:11:51 -0800
-
- Wonder if I can send this message without it dropping a dozen times. ;-)
-
- At 06:35 AM 2/24/98 PST, Julie Saker wrote:
- >kat and bat and the ludicrous baptismal gift thing (do people really DO
- >this?)
-
- Russian Orthodox do. Though, it's not called "Baptismal Day." It's called
- "Name's Day" and it's second only to your own birthday.
-
- >pro-union speech (incidentally--HUH? did that come out of left field,
- >or am i just nuts?).
-
- Sort of, but not really. Jason is just strategizing to prevent the ELQ
- plans on the docks. So far we haven't seen much of Jason's side of this,
- only Jax's. Basically the only times it's come up with Jason are the time
- when he was looking at the specs and blueplans and he said the idea stinks.
-
- I still think the little bit at the boardmeeting when it first came up,
- between Jason and Ned, was the best we've seen about this entire plot.
-
- >so, once again, i am throwing myself on the mercy of the
- >west-of-the-mississippi contingent. did anybody get the second half of
- >gh yesterday and care to fill the east-coast-types in on what we missed?
-
- Nothing too terribly fascinating. I think the only three interesting
- things are:
-
- 1.) More Luke angst. He looks like he's about to crack.
-
- 2.) Audrey overheard Lucky and Lizzie discuss that Lucky found the
- bracelet in the park and she then confronted Lizzie, and she broke down and
- told her grandmother the truth. Audrey was supportive, but very "sweep it
- under the carpet" about the whole thing -- including suggesting that they
- don't tell Lizzie's parents.
-
- 3.) Lucky and Sarah talking. Sarah tells Lucky that she knows what
- happened and Lucky blaming himself. When Sarah asks why, he tells her that
- if he hadn't gone to the dance with Sarah, Lizzie would have been there
- safe and sound. So they both felt guilty for a while before Lucky pointed
- out that they weren't getting anywhere with this. And then Lucky commented
- that he hopes the guy who did it is being eaten up from the inside out.
-
- I liked 3 the best, because, even though it included Sarah, it was more of
- Lucky's reaction to this, and he was crying again by the end of the scene.
-
- Audrey's reaction was almost creepy, and Lizzie felt something not quite
- right about the way her grandmother was responding, and it made me want to
- give her a hug, because she looked really lost, like she had thought that
- telling her grandmother would h*lp her, and then she did it and it didn't
- work and she didn't have anywhere left to go.
-
- Not all that great and the preview for today didn't look all that hot, either.
-
- But that's probably because (I think) today is supposed to be Luke's first
- day on PC. <happy dance>
-
- Taiyin
- "By all means, please, sacrifice me on the
- altar of your amusement. It's the least I
- can contribute to your evening." -- Kevin
- <taiyin@taiyin.net> http://www.taiyin.net/
-
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- From: "Julie Saker" <jesaker@hotmail.com>
- Subject: GH/PC: Re: GH/War and Peace
- Date: 24 Feb 1998 09:25:40 PST
-
- taiyin wrote:
-
- >Russian Orthodox do. Though, it's not called "Baptismal Day." It's
- >called "Name's Day" and it's second only to your own birthday.
-
- wow--so everybody gets TWO birthdays a year? pretty cool...learn
- something new every day! (of course, how KATHERINE would have known
- that is beyond me...)
-
- >1.) More Luke angst. He looks like he's about to crack.
-
- can't wait. and if THIS doesn't tempt genie out of maternity leave, i
- don't know WHAT will! seems to me a lot of people have been waiting
- AGES for this particular story to play out--and i THINK i even read
- something by her, once upon a time, that said she really wished this had
- been addressed more instead of revised and swept under the carpet.
-
- >2.) Audrey overheard Lucky and Lizzie discuss that Lucky found the
- >bracelet in the park and she then confronted Lizzie, and she broke
- >down and told her grandmother the truth. Audrey was supportive, but
- >very "sweep it under the carpet" about the whole thing -- including
- >suggesting that they don't tell Lizzie's parents.
-
- hmmmm. i read somewhere that audrey's reaction to this was supposed to
- be very strange, and related to some past trauma of her own. does
- anybody know if SHE has a rape in her past too? (god, there's an awful
- lot of this going around lately, isn't there?)
-
- >I liked 3 the best, because, even though it included Sarah, it was
- >more of Lucky's reaction to this, and he was crying again by the end
- >of the scene.
-
- i'm feeling SO bad for lucky in all of this--but sarah...even when she's
- trying to be SUPPORTIVE she annoys me! i did, however, like the scene
- at the beginning of yesterday between sarah and lizzie. when sarah said
- she'd do anything lizzie needed her to do, and lizzie asked her if she
- could turn back time...ouch. that was just PAINFUL, but beautifully
- done.
-
- >Not all that great and the preview for today didn't look all that
- >hot, either.
-
- well good...at least i know not to get stressed if the president
- interrupts yet AGAIN today! :)
-
- thanks for the update, taiyin!
-
- did anything further happen with bobbie and carly? the little bit of
- that conversation i saw was really interesting--sb and jz are doing an
- INCREDIBLE job with this. the way carly started out in full defensive
- mode, but then when bobbie made some comment about how happy and healthy
- michael looked, you could just SEE carly softening as she said, "yeah,
- he is, isn't he..." or something like that. the range of emotions, and
- watching carly go back and forth between them all, is just amazing to
- watch--monica's definitely right--she SO wants to have a relationship
- with her mother, and yet she's still so angry about the past, and so
- scared of being rejected again, and so disappointed in her own behavior
- and subsequently sure that she DESERVES the rejection she fears...it's
- enough to make your head spin. i really didn't think much of sb last
- year, and kind of wondered why she got that emmy...but i've COMPLETELY
- changed my mind on that score!
-
- >But that's probably because (I think) today is supposed to be Luke's
- >first day on PC. <happy dance>
-
- i think you're right--i can't wait! wow--poor lucy yesterday, huh? at
- the end, when she was talking to the "higher powers"? talk about
- somebody you want to give a hug... i just can't BELIEVE rex, even as
- freaked out as he was by the spiders, was STILL trying to play games
- with them. GRRRRRRRRRRR.
-
- and matt and ellen...<sigh> clearly they're not going to proceed too
- far with this plot line (unless someone else has heard something i
- haven't, about matt leaving the show), but i REALLY hope somebody reams
- chris HARD over this one, once the truth comes out.
-
- anyway...thanks again for the info!
-
- julie
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- From: "Gina Clayton" <GCLAYTON@LES.LES.SC.EDU>
- Subject: Re: GH/PC: Re: GH/War and Peace
- Date: 24 Feb 1998 12:44:57 EST5EDT
-
- >> Audrey was supportive, but
- > >very "sweep it under the carpet" about the whole thing -- including
- > >suggesting that they don't tell Lizzie's parents.
- >
- > hmmmm. i read somewhere that audrey's reaction to this was supposed to
- > be very strange, and related to some past trauma of her own. does
- > anybody know if SHE has a rape in her past too? (god, there's an awful
- > lot of this going around lately, isn't there?)
- yes-she was raped by her husband andI think tom was conceived that night.
- I might be wrong on the conception thing-let me know if I am. At that time it wasn't considered rape, but it was clearly
- unconsentual sex. this was in the 60's so it was swept under the
- carpet like she is telling Liz to do.
- > >I liked 3 the best, because, even though it included Sarah, it was
- > >more of Lucky's reaction to this, and he was crying again by the end
- > >of the scene.
- I really HATE that I missed that scene. I love watching JJ's
- reactions-he is doing a great job. I even enjoyed Sarah yesterday
- when she was helping Liz.
-
- -
-
-
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- From: Amy Schatz <starbuck@csrlink.net>
- Subject: Re: GH/PC: Re: GH/War and Peace
- Date: 24 Feb 1998 12:43:40 -0500
-
- >At 09:25 AM 2/24/98 PST, you wrote:
-
- Hi all,
-
- I'm new to this list, and looking forward to participating. I've been
- watching GH since I was 7 years old...and I'm now almost 22. <g>
-
- >>2.) Audrey overheard Lucky and Lizzie discuss that Lucky found the
- >>bracelet in the park and she then confronted Lizzie, and she broke
- >>down and told her grandmother the truth. Audrey was supportive, but
- >>very "sweep it under the carpet" about the whole thing -- including
- >>suggesting that they don't tell Lizzie's parents.
-
- Okay, did they show this yesterday? Because I'm on the East coast and the
- President interrupted just when everything was getting really good. I was
- so mad! So, did I miss a moment between Lucky and Liz - ie. did he give
- her bracelet back yesterday, or will that happen today?
-
- >hmmmm. i read somewhere that audrey's reaction to this was supposed to
- >be very strange, and related to some past trauma of her own. does
- >anybody know if SHE has a rape in her past too? (god, there's an awful
- >lot of this going around lately, isn't there?)
-
- I think I heard something about some trauma like that in her past...
-
- >>I liked 3 the best, because, even though it included Sarah, it was
- >>more of Lucky's reaction to this, and he was crying again by the end
- >>of the scene.
-
- I love Lucky now! Which is odd, since he used to really annoy me. And I
- still can't make myself like Sarah...even though she was nice to Liz
- yesterday. :D
-
- >i'm feeling SO bad for lucky in all of this--but sarah...even when she's
- >trying to be SUPPORTIVE she annoys me!
-
- Same here! She's too perfect and wonderful...no one can be that angelic. <g>
-
- > i did, however, like the scene
- >at the beginning of yesterday between sarah and lizzie. when sarah said
- >she'd do anything lizzie needed her to do, and lizzie asked her if she
- >could turn back time...ouch. that was just PAINFUL, but beautifully
- >done.
-
- That was a wonderfully done scene...
-
- >>Not all that great and the preview for today didn't look all that
- >>hot, either.
- >
- >well good...at least i know not to get stressed if the president
- >interrupts yet AGAIN today! :)
-
- Amen!!
-
-
- Amy
-
-
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-
- "Maybe he needs you to call him all the time."
- "Not when he's having breakfast with someone else."
- "Echhh...that model?"
- "Yes. That model. That *other* model."
- --Robin and Brenda, talking about Jax on GH
-
- "You know, Kristen, you may be beautiful. But you're just rotten as a
- snake underneath."
- --Susan, talking to Kristen on DAYS
-
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- From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
- Subject: Re: GH/PC: Re: GH/War and Peace
- Date: 24 Feb 1998 10:09:58 -0800
-
- At 12:43 PM 2/24/98 -0500, Amy Schatz wrote:
- > I'm new to this list, and looking forward to participating. I've been
- >watching GH since I was 7 years old...and I'm now almost 22. <g>
-
- Welcome Amy!
-
- >>>2.) Audrey overheard Lucky and Lizzie discuss that Lucky found the
- >>>bracelet in the park and she then confronted Lizzie, and she broke
- >>>down and told her grandmother the truth. Audrey was supportive, but
- >>>very "sweep it under the carpet" about the whole thing -- including
- >>>suggesting that they don't tell Lizzie's parents.
- >
- >Okay, did they show this yesterday?
-
- Yup. It was the second half of the ep.
-
- >So, did I miss a moment between Lucky and Liz - ie. did he give
- >her bracelet back yesterday, or will that happen today?
-
- Yeah, that's what prompted Lizzie to tell Audrey -- her grandmother
- overheard Lucky and LIzzie discussing the fact that Lucky had found the
- bracelet, AFTER Lizzie had lied to her grandmother about it having a broken
- clasp and being taken to the jewelry store to be fixed.
-
- >>i'm feeling SO bad for lucky in all of this--but sarah...even when she's
- >>trying to be SUPPORTIVE she annoys me!
- >
- >Same here! She's too perfect and wonderful...no one can be that angelic. <g>
-
- She annoys me because she needs acting lessons. ;-)
-
- Taiyin
- "By all means, please, sacrifice me on the
- altar of your amusement. It's the least I
- can contribute to your evening." -- Kevin
- <taiyin@taiyin.net> http://www.taiyin.net/
-
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- From: Amy Schatz <starbuck@csrlink.net>
- Subject: Re: GH/PC: Re: GH/War and Peace
- Date: 24 Feb 1998 13:24:08 -0500
-
- >>At 10:09 AM 2/24/98 -0800, you wrote:
- >At 12:43 PM 2/24/98 -0500, Amy Schatz wrote:
- >> I'm new to this list, and looking forward to participating. I've been
- >>watching GH since I was 7 years old...and I'm now almost 22. <g>
- >
- >Welcome Amy!
-
- Thanks! :D
-
- >>>>2.) Audrey overheard Lucky and Lizzie discuss that Lucky found the
- >>>>bracelet in the park and she then confronted Lizzie, and she broke
- >>>>down and told her grandmother the truth. Audrey was supportive, but
- >>>>very "sweep it under the carpet" about the whole thing -- including
- >>>>suggesting that they don't tell Lizzie's parents.
- >>
- >>Okay, did they show this yesterday?
- >
- >Yup. It was the second half of the ep.
-
- Oh great. Why does this always happen?? Peter Jennings *never* breaks in
- on AMC or OLTL. It's always GH. It seems like all world events happen
- between 3 - 4 pm EST.
-
- I was looking forward to seeing Lucky give Liz the bracelet back...this
- stinks...
-
- And I almost screamed when Peter Jennings said, "Well, folks, it's
- 3:50...so we're just going to fill out till the end of the hour..."
-
- I said, "NO!!! I want to see the very end, at least!! Or even the
- previews! Throw me a bone, here, people!" ;-)
-
- >>So, did I miss a moment between Lucky and Liz - ie. did he give
- >>her bracelet back yesterday, or will that happen today?
- >
- >Yeah, that's what prompted Lizzie to tell Audrey -- her grandmother
- >overheard Lucky and LIzzie discussing the fact that Lucky had found the
- >bracelet, AFTER Lizzie had lied to her grandmother about it having a broken
- >clasp and being taken to the jewelry store to be fixed.
-
- So, did Audrey confront Liz, or will that happen today? (maybe I didn't
- miss all the good stuff - cause we all know that if Audrey isn't
- supportive, Liz will get upset and maybe go tell Lucky about it:)
-
- >>>i'm feeling SO bad for lucky in all of this--but sarah...even when she's
- >>>trying to be SUPPORTIVE she annoys me!
- >>
- >>Same here! She's too perfect and wonderful...no one can be that angelic.
- <g>
- >
- >She annoys me because she needs acting lessons. ;-)
-
- While she does need some work, she's not as bad as Miranda was...or that
- stupid Ashley...<shudder> But she does do that thing with her eyes...she
- always look surprised... <g>
-
- BTW, anything interesting happen between Robin and Nikolas in the 2nd half
- of the episode?
-
-
- Amy
-
-
-
-
- "Thou knowest tonight, and wilt know tomorrow
- This mark of my shame, this seal of my sorrow."
- "Samuel Taylor Coleridge, "Christabel"
-
- "Maybe he needs you to call him all the time."
- "Not when he's having breakfast with someone else."
- "Echhh...that model?"
- "Yes. That model. That *other* model."
- --Robin and Brenda, talking about Jax on GH
-
- "You know, Kristen, you may be beautiful. But you're just rotten as a
- snake underneath."
- --Susan, talking to Kristen on DAYS
-
- Visit my homepage: http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/asimov/114/index.html
- There's links to X-Files stuff, my XF Fanfiction, my fav music, Prey, and
- more!!
-
-
-
-
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- From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
- Subject: Re: GH/PC: Re: GH/War and Peace
- Date: 24 Feb 1998 10:32:38 -0800
-
- At 01:24 PM 2/24/98 -0500, Amy Schatz wrote:
- >
- >So, did Audrey confront Liz, or will that happen today? (maybe I didn't
- >miss all the good stuff - cause we all know that if Audrey isn't
- >supportive, Liz will get upset and maybe go tell Lucky about it:)
-
- No, it already happened. She wanted to know why LIzzie had lied about
- taking the bracelet to the jewelers to be repaired. It was relaly only
- because she got caught in that lie that she told Audrey at all. Under
- normal circumstances she probably would have tap-danced her way out of it,
- but she's just not up for that right now.
-
- And it wasn't that Audrey isn't being supportive, but she's taking a very
- different approach than Bobbie or Lucky, or even Luke, did.
-
- I mean, when Lizzie was raped and she decided not to tell anyone and not to
- press charges, I could understand that. In her shoes I would probably do
- that same thing -- there is really no chance of catching the guy because
- she doesn't know anything about him and that is a REALLY hard thing to
- share with ANYbody. So the fewer people who know, the better. I can
- understand that.
-
- But eventually Lizzie began to realize that whether or not she goes to the
- police, SHE needs h*lp to deal with this. Lucky is doing what he can (and
- frothing at the mouth waiting for the chance to find the guy and rip his
- spleen out with his teeth), so is Bobbie and now so is Sarah.
-
- It's just that Audrey's idea of a solution was not as proactive as everyone
- else's. I think that's why it felt off-kilter. She was very upset by it,
- but her "solutions" to it seemed like she was trying to get lizzie over a
- flu: "Just rest and have some tea, stay warm and no need to make a big
- deal out of it, because you'll just put it behind you and get on with your
- life."
-
- It just wasn't what Lizie was expecting. And it wasn't like, so far,
- Audrey has been ever remotely UNsupportive, so I don't think it's really
- anything that Lizzie can put her finger on, but something DID bother her
- about Audrey's reaction.
-
- >While she does need some work, she's not as bad as Miranda was...or that
- >stupid Ashley...<shudder> But she does do that thing with her eyes...she
- >always look surprised... <g>
-
- That's why I call her "Ms. Deer in the Headlights."
-
- >BTW, anything interesting happen between Robin and Nikolas in the 2nd half
- >of the episode?
-
- No more than what Julie wrote earlier -- Robin just pointing out to Nik
- that his attitude was his biggest obsitcal, and asked him how badly he
- really wanted to get better. She did comment that, essetially, he's
- feeling sorry for himself. There really isn't anything WRONG with him, and
- certainly nothing that can't be fixed. She made a nameless comparison to
- Jason -- about how "some people" loose years of their lives, and memories
- and skills that they can never get back and they go on with their lives.
- It's just a matter of CHOICE.
-
- Basically she told him to make up his mind. She was very nice about it,
- though.
-
- Taiyin
- "By all means, please, sacrifice me on the
- altar of your amusement. It's the least I
- can contribute to your evening." -- Kevin
- <taiyin@taiyin.net> http://www.taiyin.net/
-
- -
-
-
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-
- From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
- Subject: GH/PC: Matt and Ellen
- Date: 25 Feb 1998 09:08:30 -0800
-
- Well, I was waiting for someone to mention it (I've been a little
- preoccupied with K&L), but after TWO excellent Matt and Ellen days, I
- finally had to say something (since Cagey must be REALLY busy, otherwise
- I'm sure we would have heard her melting into a giddy puddle of goo).
-
- Wow. Go Ellen! I am SO glad that she finally took a chance.
-
- They need to give Debi more to do -- damn, that woman can ACT.
-
- And poor Matt. What is with those agents hovering like a couple of
- vultures waiting for dinner? Sheesh. Obviously the concept of "privacy"
- is not a top priority for these guys.
-
- And Matt's observation about trading his life for the things that make his
- life worth while was right on the money. I am glad that Ellen convinced
- him to go, anyway, though.
-
- Combined with K&L it did make for a very, very sad ep, though.
-
- Though when Ramsey gets his butt kicked it'll make up for it.
-
- Taiyin
- "By all means, please, sacrifice me on the
- altar of your amusement. It's the least I
- can contribute to your evening." -- Kevin
- <taiyin@taiyin.net> http://www.taiyin.net/
-
- -
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-
- From: "Julie Saker" <jesaker@hotmail.com>
- Subject: GH/PC: GH SPOILERS
- Date: 25 Feb 1998 09:50:00 PST
-
- got this off of pc online, so i don't know their original source...
- but some of them are pretty gruesome. don't say i didn't warn you!
-
- l
- o
- o
- k
-
- o
- u
- t
-
- b
- e
- l
- o
- w
- .
- .
- .
- .
- .
- Scoops for the week of March 2
-
- Monday: Jax doesn't give Brenda the answer she wants
-
- Tuesday: Alan is on the hotseat when Taggert accuses him of taking pain
- medication
-
- [huh--TAGGERT?]
-
- Thursday: Audrey is falling apart about Liz's rape--
-
- Friday: Lucky learns the truth about his parents past-- from none other
- than Nikolas
-
- [oh my, oh my, oh MY. now THAT should be good!]
-
- Coming soon:
-
- Lucky tries to follow up on the truth about what Nikolas has told him.
-
- After Michael is kidnapped, Edward is the primse suspect-- initally.
-
- [you're kidding me, right? HOW is the most-guarded child on earth going
- to be kidnapped NOW???]
-
- Amy catches Alan with his hand in the cookie jar again.
-
- Brenda works to snag Jax's heart and body again.
-
- [ugh...it gets SO much worse. see below...]
-
- In Depth:
-
- Brenda realizes she wants Jax more than ever after his reaction to her
- marriage purposal.
-
- [EEEEEEEWW! PLEASE SAY IT ISN'T SO!!!!! braindead is NOT going to ask
- doormat to MARRY her?!? what is guza smoking???]
-
- Tess is feeling the heat of Mac and Felicia's investigation but they
- find themselves unprepared for the way she reacts.
-
- Alan is questioned by Taggert about the pain pills.
-
- Alexis and Ned scam AJ on the job.
-
- As Jason struggles to maintain his power base, Robin finds herself
- getting more attached to Nikolas.
-
- [oh geez...i guess we all predicted this...but still...]
-
- Nikolas' speech continues to improve and spills the truth to Lucky about
- Luke and Laura's past.
-
- [woo-hoo! luke is gonna FLIP!!!]
-
- Robin has another meeting with Carly and is hurt by Jason's treatment of
- her afterwards.
-
- Elizabeth is puzzled by Audrey's reaction to her rape.... Audrey is
- beginning to fall apart.
-
- Tony loudly and clearly informs everyone that he is leaving Port Charles
- for good.
-
- [dare we hope? actually, i've heard he's going to be the
- afore-mentioned kidnapper. <sigh> ]
-
- Jason and Justus team up to keep Jax at bay.
-
- Tess makes an important phone call, but V is working behind the scenes
- to have the call traced.
-
- Mac and Felicia make an important decision about their future.
-
- Carly is in a paralyzingly frightening incident about Michael.
-
-
- Scoops for the week of
- February 23-27, 1998
-
- [some of this already happened...but some didn't yet]
-
- Monday 2/23 Robins announcement shocks Carly into action.
- Tuesday 2/24 Tess makes a surprise visit to The Outback, where Mac gets
- more information about her plan.
- Wednesday 2/25 Alan continues to try to hide his addiction.
- Thursday 2/26 Jason changes some of his ways. Justus warns Jason to keep
- his eyes open.
- Friday 2/27 Jax once again tries to protect his Brenda, and she asks him
- a surprising question.
-
- In Depth Scoops:
-
- Katherine's gift of the Stone Bench has a strange effect on Stefan as he
- ruminates more and more about his relationship with Laura Spencer.
- Nikolas will discover the portait of Laura, which Stefan has hidden
- away, and this will serve to cement the idea Helena implanted in his
- brain about Stefan truly loving Laura....or being obsessed by her.
- Stefan will not answer Nikolas' questions in this regard which makes Nik
- even more uneasy about his *Uncle's* feelings for his mother. Stefan is
- not thrilled with Robin's visits to Nikolas and plants the seed of
- warning in Nikolas' mind about trusting a Scorpio.
-
- Robin will finally confront carly about AJ being Michael's real father--
- and she threatens that Carly had better tell AJ the truth before Jason
- becomes even more attached to Michael. Robin will not tolerate Carly
- using and hurting Jason like that. This threat to Carly's newfound way
- of life, and the knowledge that AJ would definitely sue for custody
- causes Carly's Manipulation Machine of a brain to start plotting against
- Robin.
-
- Liz is going to break the news to Audrey that she has lost the bracelet
- she loaned her, but Lucky finds the bracelet in the park and returns it
- and this causes Liz to breakdown and admit what happened.
- Liz will finally tell her grandmother that she was raped in the park.
- Audrey has a strange reaction, and will not go with Liz to GH for an HIV
- test. Bobbie goes with her in Audrey's place, but everyone is puzzled by
- Audrey's uncharacteristic behavior. Sarah and Lucky have a discussion
- about what happened to Liz, and why they both feel guilty.
-
- Tess makes a surprise visit to *James* at The Outback, and Mac finally
- puts some of her hints together as he figures out her dastardly plan.
-
-
- This week, the Spotlight
- is on Jasper Jacks!
-
- Jax is more than a little impatient about the continuing delays with the
- Dock Project-- after all Big Bucks are at stake here!
-
- Jax shows his more ruthless business man side this week, which we
- certainly haven't seen in awhile. Jax begins by having it out with Nedly
- about why Ned isn't leaning on Jason to get the project going....he gets
- Ned's goat by telling him that he isn't behaving professionally. He's
- letting familial feelings prevent him from
- reaching his goal. Ned, however, turns the tables on Jax, by telling Jax
- that he thinks that Jax is the one whose feelings are foremost here--
- Jax is still jealous of Sonny and has carried those feelings of jealousy
- and hatred to Jason!
-
- Jax has had it up to his eyeballs by now, and tells Ned that he isn't
- going to stand around waiting for Ned to light a fire under Jason, and
- that he will do whatever he deems necessary to resolve the delays. Ned
- takes this as a Death Threat for Jason and decides to warn his cousin.
- Jax, however, has something else up his sleeve and pays a visit to one
- of Jason's underlings-- a man named Sam.
-
- Jax talks out of both sides of his face by telling Sam that Jason is out
- to get him...and Sam confides in Jax that it is Jason who will soon be
- out of the picture! Jax, of course, runs to Jason to warn him of a
- Benedict Arnold on his team.
-
- Jax is feeling very smug about this as he realizes he can't lose. If Sam
- has Jason offed and out of the way that's great for the project. If
- Jason, however, disposes of Sam, then Jason will be under the impression
- that he has a debt to Jax for the warning......and will stop stalling on
- the Dock Project.
-
- Sam and Jason will have it out by Friday.
-
- Brenda excitely informs Robin that she has a new job and a big surprise
- for Jax. Brenda is going to work for the local auto dealer, and in fact
- has a photo shoot this very day. While Brenda is at the shoot, Jax
- arrives at her house-- she has set things up for him to be lured there
- and he is both amused and curious. Jax and Robin
- discuss things and while they are chatting, a tabloid reporter calls Jax
- and asks about Brenda's reentry into the modeling world. Jax panics, and
- ever the Knight in Shining Armour, he hurries to be with Brenda in case
- she needs help at the shoot. Brenda, however, is pretty calm, cool and
- collected...inside though, she is worried, remembering her breakdown,
- but she gets through it just fine. Brenda changes after the shoot into a
- beautiful ball gown and Jax's eyeballs just about pop out when he sees
- her. Brenda brings Jax back to her house, which is prepared with soft
- lighting and romantic decorations. Brenda
- opens her heart and soul to Jax, and tells him that he is the Wind
- Beneath her Wings. This is the old Brenda-- the woman who will do
- whatever it takes to get what she wants.....and she hits Jax with a big
- question/demand: "Either marry me today, or our relationship is over!"
- The same wording Jax used when he asked her to marry him. Jax is taken
- aback. How will he react??
-
- Coming Soon:
-
- Jax answers Brenda's proposal
- Tony plans for a different future
- Mac and Felicia's relationship takes a strange twist
- Two of the town's most influential families are victims of shocking
- revelations
-
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- From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
- Subject: GH/PC: Jax and the Q boys
- Date: 25 Feb 1998 09:47:04 -0800
-
- It seems that Tony's case of terminal stupidity is contagious. Jax needs
- to be quarentined before it spreads even further.
-
- So let me get this straight:
-
- He plays "both ends against the middle" and starts creating dissention in
- the ranks throughout Jason's organization, right?
-
- FOR WHAT PURPOSE????
-
- As I see it there are only a few possible outcomes.
-
- 1.) Jason's organization collapses into an internal war, in which case the
- docks turn into a war zone and the renovation plans get haulted for safety
- reasons.
-
- 2.) Jason quashes the situation and then is pissed and even less likely to
- cooperate.
-
- or
-
- 3.) Jason loses, someone ELSE comes into power, and then they have to
- negotiate the dock situation with an entirely unknown element.
-
- I think Mr. Blond baked his brains in the hot Australian Outback a little
- too long.
-
- And you know, this does remind me that I really DON'T like Jax and I never
- have. I have a problem letting my opinion of the actor influence my opnion
- of the character (and I do that with Nolan North/Chris Ramsey, too). And
- at Take a Chance Ingo was such a sweetie, that Jax stopped annoying me
- (except with Brenda), but after yesterday I realized that it wasn't Jax I
- was liking, it was Ingo.
-
- So, that's my declaration of the day: Scott seems to be trying to give up
- his matle of "Bonehead Kingpin" and Jas seems to have taken it over.
-
- HOWEVER, despite Jax annoying me to death, Ned/Jason, Justus/Jason and
- Justus/Jax rocked. And I adored Ned's warnings, especially the bit about
- Jason being a father now and needing to stick around for Michael's sake.
-
- I also thought it was very interesting the way that Jason came right out
- and asked Ned if he thought Jax would put a hit out on him, and even then
- Ned still couldn't use any truly specific terminology (aside from the fact
- that he doesn't REALLY know what Jax is going to do). He stuck with
- euphemisms like "by any means necessary" and "ruthless," etc.
-
- I thought it played very nicely into Justus' conversation with Jason, about
- living in a world where you know your enemies and people not smiling while
- they stick their knife in your back. Someone may be bad, but they aren't a
- hypocrite about it.
-
- Taiyin
- "By all means, please, sacrifice me on the
- altar of your amusement. It's the least I
- can contribute to your evening." -- Kevin
- <taiyin@taiyin.net> http://www.taiyin.net/
-
- -
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-
- From: Cagey <cagey@geocities.com>
- Subject: Re: GH/PC: Matt and Ellen
- Date: 25 Feb 1998 12:57:04 -0500
-
-
- Taiyin wrote:
-
- >(since Cagey must be REALLY busy, otherwise
- >I'm sure we would have heard her melting into a giddy puddle of goo).
-
- Oops. Hang on a sec....
-
- Goooooop. Glippidy glooppidy gooooop.
-
- <happy sigh>
-
- I've been busy. So sue me!
-
- >Though when Ramsey gets his butt kicked it'll make up for it.
-
- He's a dead man. I'm putting a hex on him <g>. Scum.
-
- --kg
-
- -
-
-
-
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-
- From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
- Subject: Re: GH/PC: GH SPOILERS
- Date: 25 Feb 1998 16:49:27 -0800
-
- At 09:50 AM 2/25/98 PST, Julie Saker wrote:
- >
- >l
- >o
- >o
- >k
- >
- >o
- >u
- >t
- >
- >b
- >e
- >l
- >o
- >w
- >.
- >.
- >.
- >.
- >.
- >Scoops for the week of March 2
- >
- >Monday: Jax doesn't give Brenda the answer she wants
-
- Gee. Darn. Yawn.
-
- >Tuesday: Alan is on the hotseat when Taggert accuses him of taking pain
- >medication
-
- Wow! You mean Taggart is actually going to SOLVE a case??? Holy cow.
- Call the PC Herald!
-
- >Friday: Lucky learns the truth about his parents past-- from none other
- >than Nikolas
-
- OUCH!!!
-
- See Nik talk. See Lucky flip. See Spencers implode. See Cassadines smirk.
-
- >Alexis and Ned scam AJ on the job.
-
- Aleixs is joining Nedly in this? <sigh> That's disappointing.
-
- >As Jason struggles to maintain his power base, Robin finds herself
- >getting more attached to Nikolas.
-
- Well, frankly, though I don't object to Nik and Robin, I am objecting SO
- MUCH to Robin these days, I'd actually rather she wasn't too involved with
- Jason.
-
- >Robin has another meeting with Carly and is hurt by Jason's treatment of
- >her afterwards.
-
- I really dislike this. They are making Robin so sanctimoious that she is
- forgetting some very basic truths -- not the least of which is that this is
- not her secret to tell. And if she starts making noise about blowing the
- secret out of the water, then she DESERVES what she gets.
-
- >Jason and Justus team up to keep Jax at bay.
-
- Can they beat him up in a dark alley while they're at it?
-
- >Robin will finally confront carly about AJ being Michael's real father--
- >and she threatens that Carly had better tell AJ the truth before Jason
- >becomes even more attached to Michael. Robin will not tolerate Carly
- >using and hurting Jason like that.
-
- WHAT IS THIS MAN DOING TO ROBIN SCORPIO?????
-
- NOT amusing at ALL.
-
- >Jax is still jealous of Sonny and has carried those feelings of jealousy
- >and hatred to Jason!
-
- Well DUH!
-
- >ever the Knight in Shining Armour,
-
- He's going to fall on his sword one of these days.
-
- >whatever it takes to get what she wants.....and she hits Jax with a big
- >question/demand: "Either marry me today, or our relationship is over!"
- >The same wording Jax used when he asked her to marry him. Jax is taken
- >aback. How will he react??
-
- It was inevitable. I knew eventually I would regret my self-restraint last
- month. Damn. I should have made obnoxious gagging noises or wailed in
- agony when Guza was discussing putting Jax and Brenda back together.
-
- >Jax answers Brenda's proposal
-
- Hasta la bye-bye, baby!
-
- >Two of the town's most influential families are victims of shocking
- >revelations
-
- Spencer and Cassadine or Spencer and Quartermaine? Nevermind, this is Guza
- we're talking about. It's got to be Spencer and Cassadine.
-
- Taiyin
- "By all means, please, sacrifice me on the
- altar of your amusement. It's the least I
- can contribute to your evening." -- Kevin
- <taiyin@taiyin.net> http://www.taiyin.net/
-
- -
-
-
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-
- From: "Julie Saker" <jesaker@hotmail.com>
- Subject: Re: GH/PC: GH SPOILERS
- Date: 26 Feb 1998 08:19:24 PST
-
- taiyin wrote:
-
-
- >>l
- >>o
- >>o
- >>k
- >>
- >>o
- >>u
- >>t
- >>
- >>b
- >>e
- >>l
- >>o
- >>w
- >>.
- >>.
- >>.
- >>.
- >>.
- >It was inevitable. I knew eventually I would regret my
- >self-restraint last month. Damn. I should have made obnoxious
- >gagging noises or wailed in agony when Guza was discussing putting
- >Jax and Brenda back together.
-
- i hate to say i told you so, but... :)
-
- oh well, look on the bright side. at least he supposedly turns DOWN
- this ludicrous proposal. sadly, i have NO faith that that means the end
- of this fiasco--just that it's going to drag things out a
- looooooooooooooong time towards the inevitable conclusion. <sigh>
-
- >Spencer and Cassadine or Spencer and Quartermaine? Nevermind, this
- >is Guza we're talking about. It's got to be Spencer and Cassadine.
-
- too true. but, to give credit where credit is due, i think he's been
- doing an AMAZING job with the q's--ALL the q's--lately. ESPECIALLY
- yesterday! emily is managing to tread the fine line between righteous
- indignation and teenage brat quite nicely ("those of you in the
- kidnappers' wing"? LOL!) aj is finally giving as good as he gets when
- it comes to ned. and lila, oh my god LILA--when she followed edward's
- lead in bribing that waiter, and warned carly about edward, i was just
- LAUGHING so hard! i haven't gotten this many laughs out of the q's in a
- long, LONG time. thank you, guza--i'm LOVING this!!!
-
- julie
-
-
-
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- From: "Fred & Rickie Yopp" <yopp@rightathome.com>
- Subject: GH/PC: general hospital
- Date: 26 Feb 1998 19:28:15 -0800
-
- Anyone have any comments on who they think raped Lizzy? Why is Audrey so
- cool toward her about getting help. Did the samething happen to her?
- Anyone know, if so please update me on this. Thanks Rickie
-
-
- -
-
-
-
- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- From: cburch@emory.edu
- Subject: Re: GH/PC: general hospital
- Date: 26 Feb 1998 22:42:52 -0400
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- Audrey was raped years ago, i can't remember who by, but it was someone she was
- involved with i think. my guess is she suppressed her rape so she thinks that
- is the only way to handle it. also if lizzie discusses her rape Audrey may have
- to relive her own.
-
- about the rapist. i think they're going to name tony, but i don't think he did
- it, so they'll absolve him. only because i don't think tptb want to destroy a
- main character like tony and i don't think they want to rehabilitate another
- rapist, a la luke. it will probably be someone insignificant and disposable.
-
- hope i helped a little
-
- cynthia
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- From: "Fred & Rickie Yopp" <yopp@rightathome.com>
- Subject: GH/PC: lizzy
- Date: 27 Feb 1998 05:51:27 -0800
-
- If they pint the finger to Tony, what will Bobby do? I hope they get back
- together. I like Jason, but I'm getting a tired of him playing the "bad
- guy". I like it when he is with the baby.
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- From: "Julie Saker" <jesaker@hotmail.com>
- Subject: GH/PC: LOGAN chat!
- Date: 27 Feb 1998 08:01:01 PST
-
- found this on pc online. i went to the SOD website in search of a
- transcript, but couldn't find one (GOD i miss logan!)...so i thought i'd
- at least share this.
-
- no REAL spoilers, i don't think, but i'll leave some space just in
- case...
-
- julie
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- I just got off the SOD chat with Michael Logan. For those of you that
- miss him, here's the latest scoops and opinions on GH.
-
- NANCY LEE GRAHN: Loagn confirmed that NLG had a baby girl (I think last
- Tuesday night.) He did tell her name but I don't remember what it was.
-
- [note--someone posted a reply saying she was named Katharine Grace--
- don't know if it's true or not, but it'd kind of an interesting choice,
- considering!]
-
- He mentioned that the baby came two weeks early and Alexis' absence will
- be explained by a trip to Jakarta.
-
- LAURA'S RETURN: He says that Genie is not coming back anytime soon and
- that in his opinion, the SOM article is a PR move on Genie's part. He
- reiterated that she has a contract. He also said she returned to do a
- bit for the show's 35 anniversary special. He said that the show is
- moving on with this story without her.
-
- THE RAPE: He's impressed with this story so far. He didn't want to say
- much more because he's doing a TV Guide article with Tony Geary about
- Lucky finding out about the rape. He says that the scenes between Luke
- and Lucky so far have been great.
-
- TONY JONES: He says that Tony did not commit Lizzie's rape but that he's
- going to be doing some pretty wacko things in the near future. Logan
- said Brad Maule thought his last chance at a great storyline
- was BJ's death and when he didn't win the Emmy he was despondent.
- Logan's thrilled with that Brad's got a great story.
-
- THE BEST SHOW ON RIGHT NOW: In his opinion, GH is the best show on ''at
- least this week.'' He says Guza's done a great job at turning the show
- around. Logan says he thinks Robin and Nikolas are a supercouple in the
- making. He says he even likes the Webber twits (because of their work in
- the rape story.) He said Rebecca Herbst has been astounding. He said he
- doesn't like the Mac/Mac story and he hates what is being done to the
- Quartermaines.
-
- EMMY NEWS: Logan predicted that Steve Burton and Sarah Brown would be
- nominated for Emmys. He also noted that Jackie Zeman put herself up for
- Best Actress this year.
-
- And that's all I can remember.
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- From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
- Subject: Re: GH/PC: general hospital
- Date: 27 Feb 1998 08:58:14 -0800
-
- At 07:28 PM 2/26/98 -0800, Fred & Rickie Yopp wrote:
- >Anyone have any comments on who they think raped Lizzy?
-
- Guza said that the "whodunnit" aspect of this whole storyline is the "least
- important," and given the raw brutality of the attack I can't see them
- sacrificing ANY regular/recurring/known character by having him be
- responsible. It'll be someone anonymous.
-
- >Why is Audrey so
- >cool toward her about getting help. Did the samething happen to her?
-
- That's the rumor.
-
- And welcome to the list!
-
- Taiyin
- "By all means, please, sacrifice me on the
- altar of your amusement. It's the least I
- can contribute to your evening." -- Kevin
- <taiyin@taiyin.net> http://www.taiyin.net/
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- From: tvplist@ix.netcom.com
- Subject: Re: GH/PC: general hospital
- Date: 27 Feb 1998 14:31:15 -0800
-
- From what I recall, Audrey was raped by Tom Baldwin (lee's brother) and
- the result was a son who she named Tom (i have no idea why. Tom was
- raised by Audrey and her husband Steve.
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- karen
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- From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
- Subject: GH/PC: Thursday
- Date: 27 Feb 1998 14:09:19 -0800
-
- Well, between Carly and Brenda nearly scratching each other's eyes out, and
- Luke and Lucky, I don't think I could choose a favorite part.
-
- Luke and Lucky would probably win in the end, though.
-
- I am continually impressed by the way Jonathon Jackson has been handling
- this. And the fabulous part of those scenes was, OMITTING Luke's dirty
- little secret, EVERYTHING he told Lucky was dead-on. Lizzie needs to be
- the one to take control of her life, and Lucky needs to respect her
- choices, even if he disagrees with them.
-
- The shot of Luke at the end, though, nearly in tears and border-line shock
- was incredible...
-
- And somebody smack me, but Sarah is slipping from about a 10 on the
- "Irritate the Daylights Out of Me" scale to about an 8.5. I still thinks
- he needs acting lessons, but the character is getting less annoying.
- Though, Becky Herbst is doing such an incredible job that Jennifer Skye
- couldn't compete -- no matter what they had her doing.
-
- And NEVER in my life did I think that an almost catfight between Carly and
- Brenda would find me rooting for *Carly* of all people. That was cool.
- And the look on Jason's face through most of the little wardrobe excersion
- was hysterical. Several times it looked like Steve was having trouble
- keeping a straight face. <g>
-
- Taiyin
- "By all means, please, sacrifice me on the
- altar of your amusement. It's the least I
- can contribute to your evening." -- Kevin
- <taiyin@taiyin.net> http://www.taiyin.net/
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- From: tvplist@ix.netcom.com
- Subject: Re: GH/PC: general hospital
- Date: 27 Feb 1998 18:35:49 -0800
-
- Does anyone remember the circumstances surrounding how and when Kevin's
- license to practice medicine was re-instated? As I watched him intubate
- lucy it occurred to me that he must've had all his credentials again,
- but i can't remember how/when it all happened!
-
- Thank you so much
- karen
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- From: Taiyin <sigmund@xmission.com>
- Subject: Re: GH/PC: general hospital
- Date: 27 Feb 1998 14:27:47 -0800
-
- At 06:35 PM 2/27/98 -0800, tvplist@ix.netcom.com wrote:
- >Does anyone remember the circumstances surrounding how and when Kevin's
- >license to practice medicine was re-instated? As I watched him intubate
- >lucy it occurred to me that he must've had all his credentials again,
- >but i can't remember how/when it all happened!
-
- It hasn't happened. There was a spoiler that said it was going to, but it
- never did. We've been waiting and waiting, but nothing.
-
- This has been the source of much discussion and speculation over on the
- Kevin & Lucy list.
-
- Taiyin
- "By all means, please, sacrifice me on the
- altar of your amusement. It's the least I
- can contribute to your evening." -- Kevin
- <taiyin@taiyin.net> http://www.taiyin.net/
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- From: Cagey <cagey@geocities.com>
- Subject: Re: GH/PC: Thursday
- Date: 27 Feb 1998 14:41:36 -0800 (PST)
-
- At 02:09 PM 2/27/98 -0800, Taiyin wrote:
-
- >The shot of Luke at the end, though, nearly in tears and
- border-line shock
- >was incredible...
-
- I'm so annoyed that Genie isn't here for this. Geez.
-
- >And NEVER in my life did I think that an almost catfight
- between Carly and
- >Brenda would find me rooting for *Carly* of all people.
-
- Wait until you see Friday's ep.
-
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- I have *never* disliked Robin as much as I did today. Oh
- my. Apparently she's decided that Jason is not only not
- old enough to make decisions about his own life, but if
- he's not going to be with her, he can't have a life period.
- Meow. And I *hated* the confrontation between Robin and
- Carly today, because she's pushed Carly's buttons in such a
- way that Carly will undoubtedly start plotting against her,
- which is only going to cause fireworks if Jason finds out.
- Sigh.
-
- --kg
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- From: tvplist@ix.netcom.com
- Subject: GH/PC: re: Kevin's license
- Date: 27 Feb 1998 19:28:06 -0800
-
- Taiyn wrote about kevin's license<<It hasn't happened. There was a
- spoiler that said it was going to, but it never did.>>
-
- Well in that case he put the hospital at incredible risk of a suit,
- although given the circumstances how else could he have reacted?
-
- karen
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- From: "Fred & Rickie Yopp" <yopp@rightathome.com>
- Subject: GH/PC: General Hospital
- Date: 27 Feb 1998 20:48:28 -0800
-
- What a great actor Mike (Ron Hale) is.. I really like the scene today
- between him and Jason. I would really like to see Brenda and Jaxs get
- together again. How does everyone else feel about them. I hope the
- writers don't make Robin out to be like Carly. What a great actress Lizzy
- is. She sure is making her sitution seem like it really happened.
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